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From: Valent@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday,June 20, 2012 2:58 PM
To: Steve Pougnet; Rick Hutcheson; Paul Lewin
Cc: Chris Mills;Ginny Foat
Subject: Email to city council re:Araby Bridge
This e-mail expresses our disappointment regarding last night's sub- committee meeting. The
first thing we were told was that there was no extension, even though we had been told there
was one, and the next thing was that the city council was going to vote on this issue
at tonight's full meeting, even though we were told that the vote wouldn't be until July 11th.
We have an e-mail dated 6/17/12 from David Ready to confirm that.
At the meeting on 6/12/12, we were told by councilwoman Foat and councilman Mills that
if a majority of the homeowners were still opposed to the bridge at any time, the project would
be abandoned. After polling the neighbors (again), we reached and exceeded the majority,
even though many residents have left town for the summer. We have e-mails, letters and
signatures to confirm the numbers if you wish to see them.
Knowing there was no longer an extension and anticipating a vote on 6/20/12, Gene Williams,
one of our appointed committee chairpersons, read a statement, that after much consideration
we, the majority, are still opposed to this bridge and gave a number of reasons why. It then
went on to say that we, the majority, wish to stop it before it goes anyfurther. We believed,
that based on the promise from the previous week's meeting, they would recommend that the
project be abandoned. Instead, we were told that "We never said that, you must
have misunderstood." We had 15 to 20 people in attendance at the first meeting on 6/12/12,
many who returned to last night's meeting and we all heard the same thing. We obviously felt
as though we had been blind-sided.
Ms. Foat asked if we had sent the statement we read to them to everyone in the neighborhood
because the purpose of the neighborhood organizations was to keep everyone informed. We
told her that we had not, but would, and did so last night after the meeting.
Also present at yesterday's meeting,were several people from Araby Commons neighborhood,
who were there to object to the bridge. They were told that their concerns were not important
because they don't have "safety issues" regarding ingress and egress through
Araby wash. We've heard from over 30 residents of Araby Commons who think that, in
addition to dealing with two plus years of construction traffic and noise, they are concerned
that the bridge will be shelter for vagrants like the nearby bridge at Highway 111. They
consider that to be a MAJOR "safety"-concern.
From that point on there was a lot of discussion about what had been said and what we felt
were promises that were broken. The staff indicated they want to vote to proceed with
acceptance of the grant which would allow them to pursue alternatives to a bridge in the
preliminary process. They said no money would be spent for 2 - 3 months. After hearing this
over and over, we still don't understand how you can use money from a 100 year BRIDGE
application to find ALTERNATIVES to a BRIDGE and still keep a promise, possibly years in
the future?
Respectfully,
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Dave & Sue Valentino
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Ginny Foat
From: Julie Rupp <ruppjulie1@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday,June 20, 2012 1:08 PM
To: Michelle_Profant@dot.ca.gov; Richard Hill;savat_ v khamphou@dot.ca.go ,
Valent@aol.com; kbpollack@aol.com;Joe Seiler, Steve Pougnet; Ginny Foat; Rick
Hutcheson; Paul Lewin; Lee A. Bonno; David Ready, Dave Barakian;John Raymond;
Albert.Vergel.De.Dios@dot.ca.gov; Malcolm.Dougherty@dot.ca.gov,
cLedward_philpot@dot.ca.gov
Subject: Please Deny City Project No. 11-02, Federal Aid Project No. BR-NBIL (521)
Attachments: Casey June Beetle.docx,Araby_BridgeSurvey_Response_by_Owner_06.06.12.pdf; Bridge
letter NC.doc;A Bridge to Nowhere.docx
Hi Michelle,
Richard Hill in Sacramento was kind enough to refer me to you. We were hoping the city council would not
accept the 10 Million Dollar Grant of Federal Aid to build an unnecessary bridge that is not environmentally or
fiscally responsible tonight, June 20th. Our elected officials, city staff and Cal Trans did not investigate the need
or information given on the grant application. To build a 100 year flood bridge is not the correct way to
proceed.
Our Araby Neighborhood Association was told on Tuesday, June 12th in a sub-committee meeting by City
Manager David Ready, and Council members Ginny Foat and Chris Mills that if our neighborhood at a majority
of 51%did not want the Araby Bridge they would not build a bridge, and stated "We have other projects to do
and to not accept the grant was not a problem." We stand strong at 80+% against accepting the grant to build a
100 year flood bridge. The grant is a mismatch to our Araby Cove neighborhood.
In addition Dave Barakian, our City Engineer was asked by David Ready to contact Cal Trans for an extension
of time to accept the Grant and to check into the fact that the information given to Cal Trans in the grant was
false as below in my letter to Richard Hill.
Araby Drive Bridge at Palm Canyon Wash Grant
City Project No. 11-02, Federal Aid Project No. BR-NBIL (521)
Last night we were told the City of Palm Springs has to accept the grant, vs. resubmit with the correct
information as they would possibly be sued by an Araby citizen if the police and fire response time was effected
due to not having an all weather crossing. Our responsible citizens found it was 30 seconds more to go up Rim
Road and there are less than 200 cars a day crossing on Araby Drive.
We are 80% against accepting the grant but were all misinformed on June 12th. We live here for the appealing
environment and a 100 year flood bridge would destroy our peaceful, safe and united neighborhood. There has
never been a safety issue or any incident in Araby Cove in the previous 70 years to date.
In addition in an email to Dave Barakian from Savat Khamphou, District Local Assistance Engineer
stated: "Technically, the corrected ADT does not affect HBP eligibility." Dave Barakian spoke last night at our
meeting and said Cal Trans did not care if 2000 or 200,000 or 2 cars utilize the bridge and copied us on the
email sent Tuesday, June 19th at 10:54 AM from Savat Khamphou.
It is beyond my imagination that the grant was granted on false information, including that the residents did not
have an alternative public road to get out in an emergency when the road might be flooded or closed. We have
a prescriptive easement on Rim Road and if Chris Mills can state last night that the owner can lock the gate,
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maybe the City should be responsible to purchase and maintain the road at a cost of below 10 Thousand Dollars
vs. 12 Million Dollars for a bridge to nowhere.
Our elected officials, city staff and Cal Trans did not investigate the need or information given on the grant
application.
I believe the City of Palm Springs should be worried if accepting the grant they could be sued for giving false
information to Cal Trans, Cal Trans could be sued for not checking the information on the grant application, and
the grant should be denied to avoid any further law suits. Do not fix what is not broken and be irresponsible to
accept the 10 Million Dollar Grant of Federal Aid to build an unnecessary bridge that is not environmentally or
fiscally responsible.
Would you have your Cal Trans attorneys look into this?
As a citizen of the United States if I falsified information I would be libel, but it seems more and more if
government agencies and elected political officials lie it is accepted. It is a very sad environment for us and our
children that there is "no honest politician" a goal my daughter wanted and was told by a political leader that it
would be impossible for her to be an honest politician.
Her opinion of this bridge to nowhere: "The money is needed to fix our educational system here at Palm Spring
Unified School District, so we have informed and educated citizens. 12 million dollars would provide the
needed technology in our classrooms and we would be investing in our future." Alexandra Age 14.
She is very aware of earmarked money -but if we all work together and be honest maybe something good can
happen for the citizens and students of our community .
Julie
Julie K. Rupp
Palm Springs City resident for 37 years
(760) 322-0243
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From: Julie Rupp <rappiulieI ,=,gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: Minimum of traffic to apply for a Grant I believe PSP falsified information Please Help
To: Richard Hill <richard_hilIgdot.ca.gov>
Cc: Valent e aol.com
Hi Richard,
Thank you. I will pass the information to our Committee spokesperson, Sue Valentino for her to follow-up with
Caltrans.
Araby Drive Bridge at Palm Canyon Wash Grant
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City Project No. 11-02, Federal Aid Project No. BR-NBIL (521)
Attached is the information I wanted to share with you regarding the protected Casey June Beetle.
The bridge is in the middle of their critical habitat and 2 years to build a 100 year flood bridge is not
the correct way to proceed.
We are hoping the city council will not accept the Federal Aid to build an unnecessary bridge that is not
environmentally or frcally responsible.
Julie
Palm Springs City resident for 37 years
(760) 322-0243
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Richard Hill <richard hill(a dot.ca.gov> wrote:
Hi Julie, I'm responding to your email per our conversation today. You
wanted to send information on Casey's June Beetle that is an issue at the
Palm Canyon Wash area, the site of a proposed bridge. Palm Springs lies
within Caltrans District 8. A general information number that should be
able to find appropriate information is District 8 Public Affairs at
866.383.4631 or 909.383.4631, available, Monday - Friday, 8:OOam - 5:OOpm.
I can refer you to Michelle Profant in District 8. Her number is 909-383
4416. Michelle is out of the office today, but will likely be available
tomorrow. I understand that she is familiar with the projects in the Palm
Canyon area.
You indicated interest in obtaining a contact with the US Fish and Wildlife
Service who is familiar with this area and issues related to Casey's June
beetle. The contact information available to me is for Ken A. Corey,
Assistant Field Supervisor, Palm Springs Fish and Wildlife Office,
760-322-2070, Email: ken corev(kfws.gov. Ken's office would likely be able
to provide additional contacts for the state Department of Fish and Game
that may also have information on this area.
Thank you for your concern.
Richard Hill, Senior Environmental Planner
Aquatic Ecologist
Office of Biological Studies
Division of Environmental Analysis, Caltrans
916-653-8417
Move over for Highway Workers!
Julie Rupp
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Subject
Minimum of traffic to apply for a
Grant I believe PSP falsified
information Please Help
Hello Richard,
If applying for a CAL Trans grant, is the minimum traffic 2000 cars a day?
The City of Palm Springs applied for a grant on August 2011 claiming 2000
cars pass the Palm Canyon Wash vs. the possible truth of 200—250 cars per
day. In addition the grant application claimed 100 +bikers and hikers per
day vs. 10 bikers and hikers. Wow x 1000X increase in untruths.
Would you please help me understand if the City of Palm Springs falsified a
grant for a bridge over the Palm Canyon Wash at Araby Drive, Palm Springs,
CA 92264. Should the City of PS resubmit with the correct information and
would they be denied?
Our wonderful Mayor and City Council want answers to these questions, but
the engineering department in my opinion is not to be trusted.
Thank you,
Julie Kay Rupp
(760) 322-0243
SUNcerely,
Julie
Julie Kay Rupp
Palm Springs, CA
(760) 322-0243
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Subject: ARABY DRIVE BRIDGE AT PALM CANYON WASH 0V6;66W 1 %,(\o*
From: David H. Ready, City Manager
Initiated by: Public Works and Engineering Department
SUMMARY
The Public Works and Engineering Department ("Department") applied to the California
Department of Transportation ("Caltrans") for federal funding to design and construct a
new bridge on Araby Drive across the Palm Canyon Wash. The proposed bridge would
replace the existing "at grade" or "low water crossing" of Araby Drive through the Palm
Canyon Wash. Caltrans reviewed and approved the Department's application for
funding, which will provide $10.1 Million towards the $11.4 Million project cost.
In order to move forward with the project, the first Council action to,be taken is approval
of a funding agreement with Caltrans for the first phase of the project.
RECOMMENDATION:
1) Direct staff to move forward with the Araby Drive Low Water Crossing Bridge
Replacement at Palm Canyon Wash, City Project No. 11-02, Federal Aid Project
No. BR-NBIL (521); and
2) Adopt Resolution No. "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
CITY OF PALM SPRINGS, CALIFORNIA APPROVING PROGRAM
SUPPLEMENT NO. N037 TO ADMINISTERING AGENCY-STATE
AGREEMENT FOR FEDERAL-AID PROJECTS NO. 08-5282R WITH THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA, IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,352,000, FOR THE ARABY
DRIVE LOW WATER CROSSING BRIDGE REPLACEMENT AT PALM
CANYON WASH, CITY PROJECT NO. 11-02, FEDERAL-AID PROJECT NO.
BR-NBIL (521), AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE
AGREEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF PALM SPRINGS;" and
3) Authorize the City Manager to execute all necessary documents.
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City Council Staff Report
June 6, 2012-Page 2
Araby Drive Bridge at Palm Canyon Wash
STAFF ANALYSIS:
Frequent road closures of Araby Drive at the Palm Canyon Wash have required the
Department to consider replacing the existing Araby Drive low water crossing with a
new bridge. Closure of Araby Drive at the Palm Canyon Wash isolates the Araby Cove
community, restricting access into and out of the residential neighborhood to Rim Road,
most of which is a narrow, substandard, private road.
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During severe storms, the Araby Drive low water crossing is inundated and frequently
damaged due to debris flows within the Palm Canyon Wash. i The frequent flood
damage results in repeated significant costs to the City for road' repairs. Closure of
Araby Drive restricts all residential and emergency traffic accessing the Araby Cove
community to a narrow private, poorly maintained road (Rim Road), increasing the
response time of emergency vehicles to the Araby Cove community. This flooding and
the resulting road closures have a direct impact on the public's health and safety.
Repeated flooding of the Palm Canyon Wash in recent years has required the
Department to consider alternatives to maintaining the existing low water crossing.
Considering the public's health and safety, and in response to increasing concerns to
frequent closures of the low water crossing from the community, the Department
determined that replacement of the low water crossing with a new elevated bridge is the
only permanent (and the safest) solution of the repeated problem lof flooding within the
Palm Canyon Wash, as a way to ensure all-weather access is maintained to the Araby 02
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City Council Staff Report
June 6, 2012 - Page 3
Araby Drive Bridge at Palm Canyon Wash
Some photos of recent flooding in the area are shown in the following pages.
Figure 1.0 shows the resulting mud and debris flow deposited over Araby Drive due to
flooding within the Palm Canyon Wash from a moderate storm in 2007.
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City Council Staff Report
June 6, 2012 - Page 4
Araby Drive Bridge at Palm Canyon Wash
Figure 2.0 shows flooding that occurred during a severe summer thunderstorm in 2008.
This storm generated significant storm water runoff within the Palm Canyon Wash,
resulting in closure of Araby Drive. This photo shows flooding of Rim Road near its
connection to East Palm Canyon Drive, demonstrating that in some cases an access to
the Araby Cove neighborhood is cut-off due to flooding.
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During extreme flooding, as shown in Figure 2.0, all access into and out of the Araby
Cove may be restricted when Rim Road is also flooded near E. Palm Canyon Dr. As
indicated later in this report, many residents have submitted comments that Rim Road is
a viable all-weather access for the Araby Cove; however, as this photo shows, Rim
Road itself is susceptible to flooding.
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City Council Staff Report
June 6, 2012 - Page 5
Araby Drive Bridge at Palm Canyon Wash
Figure 3.0 shows flooding that occurred during a severe summer thunderstorm on July
20. 2008. This storm generated significant storm water runoff within the Palm Canyon
Wash, resulting in closure of Araby Drive. This photo shows the actual flooding of Palm
Canyon Wash at Araby Drive, and is looking upstream towards south Palm Springs.
The Araby Cove community is to the upper left of Palm Canyon Wash. During this
storm, Araby Drive was inundated by storm water runoff and debris flows.
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Araby Drive Bridge at Palm Canyon Wash
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Wash, resulting in closure of Araby Drive. This photo shows the actual flooding of Palm
Canyon Wash at Araby Drive, and is looking downstream towards East Palm Canyon
Drive. The narrow private road (Rim Road) that functions as limited access for the
Araby Cove community is to the upper right of Palm Canyon Wash. During this storm,
Araby Drive was inundated by storm water runoff and debris flows, and Rim Road was
flooded (near its connection with East Palm Canyon Drive in the foreground of this
photo, and also as shown in Figure 1.0). This storm resulted in the complete isolation of
the Araby Cove community.
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,From: Dave Barakian
Sent: Thursday,May 24,2012 6:33 PM
To: Felipe Primera
Subject: FW:Araby bridge
David Barakian I
Director of Public Works/City Engineer
City of Palm Springs 3
3200 E.Tahquitz Canyon Way
Palm Springs,CA 92262
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(760)323-8253 x8732 i
—Original Message-- '
From:Deb Hydon[mailto:dentaldebs@gmall.comj
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Sent:Thursday, May 24,2012 3:01 PM
! To: Dave Barakian
Cc: Derek Hydon
Subject:Araby bridge
Hello,
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I'm emailing to inform you that my husband and I are very much in support FOR the bridge construction in Araby cove!
We are grateful that the money would be allotted for this project in our community!
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Deborah&Derek Hydon
2270 East Smokewood ave.
Palm springs,ca 92264
Mailing address:
17751 sabbladoro,way
Pacific palisades,ca 90272
Phone 310-600-0707
Thank you.
Deb
Sent from my!Phone
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Dept.of Public Works and Engineering
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Dear Mr.Barakian,
I have submitted my Bridge Survey Card as requested. However,my wife and II are so vehemently
opposed to this Bridge that we feel we MUST respond via letter also.
It is quite clear that the large majority of Araby Cove residents are opposed to the Araby Drive Bridge
Proposal. PLEASE DO NOT force this bridge upon us residents that do not want it
Our letter does not include the many reason for our objections to the bridge project,because I am
sure other residents will do so in their lengthy letters. Suffice it to say that we purchased our home in
Araby 14 years ago because it was a rural,county setting.
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I can understand the City's position in that here is a nearly"free money program"for upgrading the
city road infra-structure. To we the residents,this bridge reminds us of the Alaska)Bridge to Nowhere.
Please do not force an unwanted bridge upon the residents of Araby Cove.
sincerely j
Raymond and Ardith Luke
2293 Smokewood Avenue
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Palm Springs,CA 92264
Cc.,Chris.Mills
Palm Springs City Councilman
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----Original Message---
From: Holly's Homes<hollyshomes@dc.rr.com>
To:kbpollack<kbpollack@aol.com>
Sent: Mon, May 14, 2012 3:01 pm
Subject: RE: the bridge at Araby
jWilliam Manclarke..and yes he is aware of the situation..and is totally against the bridge -he is taking
action..Hoily
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From: kboollack(o)aol.com fmailto:kboollack(a).aol.coml
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 2:22 PM
4 To: hoNvshomes@dc.rr.com;andvholiinger@mac.com
Subject: Re:the bridge at Araby
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Holly,who owns the property? Have you talked to that person about this? Mailings went out to all proerty owners
more than a week ago. I like what you expressed. Kerstin
—Original Message—
From: Holly's Homes<hollyshomes(ZDdc.m.com>
To:kbpollack<kbpollack@aol.com>
Sent:Mon, May 14,201211:21 am
Subject the bridge at Araby
H!Kirsten,
I was wondering if I have any say on this proposed bridge seeing that I am only a tenant here at 2280 South Araby. If I do,
please send me anything I can sign to vote AGAINST this proposed bridge. I moved to Araby specifically to live in peace
and quiet and have beautiful surroundings. I can't imagine needing a bridge when the amount of rainfall in the desert is so
minimal. I also cannot understand a bridge being built when it is unnecessary and the majority of homeowners in Araby
are opposed to it. It will totally impact the views and the personality of the community in a negative way.There seems to
be so many other areas in Palm Springs where the roads are in dire need of improvement. I would think that with$11
lnillion dollars available it would help so many other people. This just doesn't make any logical sense. I have lived here
nearly three years and during that time frame the wash has closed maybe two or three times. It was not even a problem to
take Rim Road out of the neighborhood to my destination-Please let me know if 1 can helpito do anything to stop this
bridge from being built..
I
1 really appreciate this whole neighborhood and how they are pulling together...and I love living here everyday...
Thanks Kirsten for all you do to help us...Holly
Holly Taft Markas
780-885-2800
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Marcus Fuller
From: Jay Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:58 AM
To: Dave Barakian; Marcus Fuller
Subject: FW:Testimony for Bridge proposal Palm Canyon Wash
Attachments: ArabyDriveBridge.doc
From: Patrick Jordan [mailto:pjordan65@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 9:01 AM
To: Jay Thompson
Cc: Lee A. Bonno; David Ready
Subject: Testimony for Bridge proposal Palm Canyon Wash
Dear Jay,
Attached is my one sheet testimony that I would like included in the packets to the Mayor and City Council for the June
6th, 2012 meeting. I have also copied Lee Bonno and David Ready.
Thank you for your assistance.
All the best,
Patrick V. Jordan
Patrick N Stewart Properties
Dedicated People. Distinctive Spaces.
Broker Associate & Executive Premier Director
Windermere Real Estate SoCal
License# 01726623
760.898.1817 (m)
760.325.9091 (o)
760.406-4093 (f)
Just click - www.patrickstewartproperties.com
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Honorable Mayor Pougnet and Palm Springs City Council Members,
My name is Patrick Jordan and as a resident of Araby Cove at 2222 S Araby Drive,
I wanted to give my thoughts on the Palm Canyon Wash bridge proposal at the
Araby wash.
I am in favor of the bridge for a number of reasons first and foremost which is the
health and safety of the residents not only of Araby Cove but also for the other
residents and visitors of the City of Palm Springs. I believe that a visually
appealing bridge could be built with walking/biking path (this is of paramount
importance) that has minimal impact on the environment and that would also
serve as a gateway to the area for others to use. As the area has,many people that
park their cars (especially during our seasonal months) at the bottom of Araby
Drive I thought that possibly a couple of parking spaces with (paved or compacted
dirt) could also be incorporated.
To the west of the proposed bridge is a hiking trail through the flats of Araby that
leads through roughly 20 acres of land that was donated to the City of Palm
Springs a few years ago. That land and the entire area along with the couple of
parking spots could be called The Preserve at Araby Cove or something along
those lines.
I am quite sensitive to my neighbors "drum beating' and I don't want an ugly
bridge either but I am thinking also of the future. While these folks don't want to
be disturbed or don't want change the fact of the matter is that the City is
changing and growing. As we grow there will be more hikers and walkers and cars
to the area. There will be more rain storms and the road will wash out for sure.
Will it take the loss of life during one of these events to make everyone realize
that we really need a safe place to cross the wash.
To pass on this federal money when we have a chance to build an esthetically
pleasing safe water crossing bridge and possibly incorporate a couple of parking
spots that lead to the "Preserve at Araby Cove" to me is not a very prudent or
forward way to plan. There is a way to do this with the right vision and a concept
that the neighborhood and residents of the entire City could be proud of.
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James Thompson, City Clerk
Palm Springs, Ca.
I regret not being able to attend the city council meeting of June 6t' as I will be out of town
then. But I would very much like to make my comments about the proposed Araby Dr. bridge
Project.
I am a resident of Araby Cove and feel strongly about this project for an assortment of reasons.
1. The City Council never brought this up with the people in Araby Cove previous to
requesting the grant. We feel like the City just "ran over" us.
2. In these economic times spending this much on an unnecessary project sends a message
indicating a lack of financial responsibility much the same as an individual family taking
an expensive vacation when they are having problems paying the rest of their bills.
3. Since we do have a secondary access road into the area which we have been using for
quite some number of years (at least 60) which is fine with almost all of us why fix
something that isn't broken?
4. The people living near the wash would end up having an ugly view of this bridge instead
of what they are used to, which is a serene and natural desert landscape. Also, these same
residents would end up with a big bridge in their front yard, just about. The rest of the
residents up here in the cove may not be as directly affected this way, but since we don't
really need this bridge anyway, why create such a thing for the people living here and are
perfectly happy with the way things are?
5. The area does not seem worthy of such an expensive and seemingly unnecessary project
due to three things: once people go over the bridge, there isn't really anywhere else to go
and the roads are tiny. Since there are only 80 residents here it would equal 137,500 per
residence to do the project. It just does not seem to make financial sense. And item#3.
6. It just seems there would be so many better places to spend this much money. If asked,
we would have given invaluable input to the planners on this issue. Then everybody
could have been happy.
7. The asst of continued regular maintenance after flooding seems minimal in comparison.
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Honorable Mayor Pougnet and Palm Springs City Council Members, P IAI
2012 MAY 29 AM 9: 00
My name is Patrick Jordan and as a resident of Araby Cove at 2222 S Araby Drive,
I wanted to give m thoughts on the Palm Canyon Wash bride ro osaTZ"t 1 H"" "
g� Y g Y g P p dSl�heC��2�'
Araby wash.
I am in favor of the bridge for a number of reasons first and foremost which is the
health and safety of the residents not only of Araby Cove but also for the other
residents and visitors of the City of Palm Springs. I believe that a visually
appealing bridge could be built with walking/biking path (this is of paramount
importance) that has minimal impact on the environment and that would also
serve as a gateway to the area for others to use. As the area has many people that
park their cars (especially during our seasonal months) at the bottom of Araby
Drive I thought that possibly a couple of parking spaces with (paved or compacted
dirt) could also be incorporated.
To the west of the proposed bridge is a hiking trail through the flats of Araby that
leads through roughly 20 acres of land that was donated to the City of Palm
Springs a few years ago. That land and the entire area along with the couple of
parking spots could be called The Preserve at Araby Cove or something along
those lines.
I am quite sensitive to my neighbors "drum beating" and I don't want an ugly
bridge either but I am thinking also of the future. While these folks don't want to
be disturbed or don't want change the fact of the matter is that the City is
changing and growing. As we grow there will be more hikers and walkers and cars
to the area. There will be more rain storms and the road will wash out for sure.
Will it take the loss of life during one of these events to make everyone realize
that we really need a safe place to cross the wash.
To pass on this federal money when we have a chance to build an esthetically
pleasing safe water crossing bridge and possibly incorporate a couple of parking
spots that lead to the "Preserve at Araby Cove" to me is not a very prudent or
forward way to plan. There is a way to do this with the right vision and a concept
that the neighborhood and residents of the entire City could be proud of.
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dECE1'VLD MAY 312012
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2012 MAY 31 PM 12: 32 �eenns
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To: The Palms Springs City Councl LE R Y'
Subject: The City's Application for Highway Bridge Program funds to Replace Araby
Drive Low Water Crossing with a New Bridge at Palm Canyon Wash,dated
August 4, 2011
The purpose of this letter is to recommend that the Palm Springs City Council,disapprove the
subject bridge project. We,the Araby Cove Neighborhood Organization,believe that the
proposal contained in the Application does not fit the intent and guidelines of the Federal
Highway Bridge Program. To meet the goal of upgrading our Nation's infrastructure,federal
money is more appropriately spent on highways, highway bridges,and highway intersections.
We believe further that the approval by the City Council and Caltrans was based on the
erroneous statements(see Appendix)that there is heavy traffic on Araby Drive across the wash,
that local traffic circulates through the Araby Cove neighborhood,and that there is no other
access to the Araby Cove neighborhood during flooding in the wash. In truth,the lightly
traveled Araby Drive leads to and dead ends in our small residential community of about 80
houses nestled against the foothills. Rim Road provides a year round alternative access. Since
Caltrans was not requested to conduct a field review,we believe it did not have the full,true
"picture"when it approved the Application.
The estimated cost of the Project was said to be$11,413,000,of which S1,300,000,is to be
borne by the City of Palm Springs. We believe this expenditure to be unnecessary and fiscally
irresponsible,compared with the occasional cost of clearing sand from part of the wash
crossing,and very infrequently,making repairs to the asphalt road. We understand that the
crossing has had only one major repair in the last 5o years.
In addition,there would be non-trivial maintenance costs once the bridge is built. Per The
Desert Sun of 5-20-12,the cost to repair 4 small bridges in Indio,including the one over the
storm channel on Indio Blvd.near Clinton St., is expected to be s8,000,000. A bridge will
attract graffiti and homeless people,which will require additional maintenance and increase
security issues in our neighborhood. Sand will still have to be removed under the bridge by the
City after periods of flooding in the wash to maintain proper flow of water and clearance for
equestrians.
The Araby Cove Neighborhood Organization was not solicited for input until the City's
Application had been submitted to and approved by Caltrans. Ina City Survey circulated just
this month,82%ofthe Araby Cove property owners to date, have voted against the bridge
project. Araby Cove is a peaceful,scenic,rustic and eclectic community;we urgently request
the Palm Springs City Council to reject the Araby Bridge plan.
Kersti�k ✓//%i/L
Araby Cove Neighborhood Organization
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APPENDIX TO ARABY COVE RESIDENTS ORGANIZATION LETTER OF MAY 23.2012
ERRORS&MISREPRESENTATIONS IN THE PALM SPRINGS CITY APPLICATION FOR
HIGHWAY BRIDGE PROGRAM FUNDING OF A NEW BRIDGE AT PALM CANYON WASH
A Letter to Caltrans District o8 from the City of Palm Springs dated August-4 aoia.
i. Page 3., Paragraph z statement: "Closure of the Araby Drive low water crossing due to
flooding essentially isolates the entire Araby Cove community."
Fact: Although a small portion of Rim Road is on private property,there are prescriptive
easements that have been successfully used for many years,not only during the short and
occasional periods of flooding in the wash,but also as an alternate access route on a normal
daily basis.
z. Page i,Paragraph 7 statement ...continued flooding problems within the Palm Canyon
Wash at Araby Drive not only represent a serious safety hazard to the'public, but also
significantly increases response time to the Araby Cove community."
Fact: There have been no known accidents or safety problems during the rare periods of
flooding on Araby Drive or during normal conditions due to the use of Rim Road as an alternate
access. Access has not been a problem these many years. Emergency vehicles(including fire
trucks), utility vehicles,trash pick-up trucks and the USPO currently choose to use Rim Road for
access some of the time,even though Araby Drive is open. Consistently,they have been able
to safely navigate Rim Road.
B. Application Sections Project Background Section i z Project Need&Purpose
s. Page 4, Paragraph 3 Statement:"This flooding (referring to Fig.i.o)repeatedly
damages Araby Drive low water crossing,burying the road with several feet of mud and
debris."
Fact: Flooding generally leaves only several inches of sand on part of the crossing,which the
City cleans within a few days.
a. Page 5, Fig.a.o: Shows auto in deep water on Rim Road nearthe connection to East
Palm Canyon Drive.
Fact: Waterfrom the South Ridge hill drains into the area shown. This water drains through a
culvert into the wash. This area does notflood to preclude access to Rim Road if the culvert is
kept clear and sand is not allowed to pileup on the downside of the culvert. ,Routine City
maintenance would prevent such water buildup.
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APPENDIX TO ARABY COVE RESIDENTS ORGANIZATION LETTER OF MAY 23,20
3. System Planning,page 8,paragraph i statememt:"...The estimated Average Daily
Traffic(ADT)is approximately 2,000."referring to the Palm Canyon Wash crossing.
FACT: Without actually measuring, a better guess would be less than 250. With about 8o
houses,some are week-end only,some are second homes during the Winter,so let's consider
7o as occupied on the average. With,say y daily trips to and from each of the 70 houses,and
15%of them using Rim Road,the Araby Drive crossings would be about 238 per day.
C. APPENDIX A. LAPG EXHIBIT 6-A PAGE 6-47:
i. HBRRP Application/Scope Definition Form,Page 6-7,bottom paragraph statement:
"...the proposed project will enhance the traffic circulation within and around the City of Palm
Springs."
FACT: Araby Cove is not on the way to any other part of Palm Springs,or beyond;the only
traffic is to and from the small community of about 8o houses.
2. Separate Pages for LAPG Exhibit 6-A, item 8,paragraph b,Section 6.5.7,Unusual
Architectural Treatments
(a) Statement: "...Hundreds of cyclists and hikers will use this facility every
day"
FACT: Hikers will not find this bridge useful;they access the trails from either the Araby Trail
Head at South Ridge near Palm Canyon Drive East or from the wash itself,without crossing into
Araby Cove. It is estimated that fewer than io bicycles and less than one-half dozen hikers
cross the wash on Araby Drive per day.
(b) Statement: "...City of Palm Springs desires this bridge to be consistent
with City's general plan and goals of preserving visual and scenic
resources.
QUESTION: How can the City expect to meet this goal by building abridge in a natural wash
with smoke trees,desert willows,and other wild plants that is home to many animals and
birds?
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ARABY COVE NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATION
Kerstin B. Pollack, Chair
Theresa Hoyt, Vice Chair
Bridge Committee:
Andy Hollinger,Leader
Harold Allred
Freda Jorgensen
David Levine
Ray Luke
Heidi McKee
Adele Norton
Linda Ragin
Sue Valentino
Gene Williams
CONTACT INFORMATION:
Kerstin B. Pollack
2283 Smokewood Avenue
Palm Springs, CA 92264
kbpollackka.aol.com
760-320-1324
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ARABY"DRIVE BRIDGE
AT PALM CANYON WASH
I/We SUPPORT the City's proposal of a new bridge on Araby
Drive at the Palm Canyon Wash.
® I/We DO NOT SUPPORT the City's proposal of a new bridge on
Araby Drive at the Palm Canyon Wash.
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A BY COVE
BRIDGE COMMITTEE
EXHIBITS
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DUNE, 6, 2012
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Good evening Mayor and city council members.
My name is Harold Allred. I grew up here in the desert on Clancy Lane in Rancho Mirage from
1959, over 50 years ago. My wife and I have lived in Araby Cove since Jan. 1995 and are
involved with the Araby Cove Neighborhood Organization.
I want to speak against the project.
In regard to the proposed bridge over Araby wash the first thing I want to say is how
disappointed I was to find out the city had started this project without any outreach efforts to the
people that live in this neighborhood that would be affected by it even though the city does
know we have a neighborhood organization. We have a fantastic group of people willing to
have meetings with the city but were never notified or asked for our input.
Next, in regard to the application for $10,000,000 of Federal funds which was granted, there
were a few of what seems to be misrepresentations in the request and our group wants to point
them out. I will start with this one. On page 1, Paragraph 2, there is a statement that says
"Closure of Araby Drive low water crossing due to flooding essentially isolates the entire Araby
Cove Community"
The fact is that for over 60 years the residents here have successfully used Rim Road as a
secondary access to the area and use it both when Araby has been flooded as well as just for
normal daily use. The application to Cal Trans insinuates that the residents are isolated and
stranded when Araby is flooded. The city has a picture of the Rim Rd. entrance being flooded
once, as depicted on page 5 figure 2 of the application for funds but this was the only time this
has ever happened to anybody's recollection and was due to a lack of maintenance to an
inadequate culvert there (see exhibit A) that was designed by the city to direct this water run-off
into the wash. But its only about 20 inches in diameter. (umbrella) Flooding there should never
be an issue if this culvert is adequate for the purpose and properly maintained. We would be
glad to take a city representative there to show you.
Furthermore, in these financially stressed times it seems to be a gross mis-use of this amount of
money, plus another 1,300,000 from other tax-payer sources for a project that is basically
unnecessary. You know, ten million here, ten million there, and pretty soon you're into some
real money. But if it is available and needs to be used for this kind of purpose it seems it would
be so much better spent on Vista Chino, Gene Autry or Indian Ave. wash crossings where
traffic flow in the entire area is completely disrupted during flooding instead of a little road into
a small area with only 80 residents that rest of the people in the city almost never use. I urge the
council to take some time to consider alternatives, THAT DO EXIST, to this unnecessary
bridge project before moving forward. Thank You.
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510242001 2306 E SMOKEWOOD AVE ABRAMS,DALE 2306 E SMOKEWOOD AVE PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
510232001 2223 S ARABY OR ALCHIAN,MARY L TRUST 2223 S ARABY DR PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
510231005 2251 E SMOKEWOOD AVE ALURED,HAROLD EVERETT&CONNIE JEAN TRUST 2251 E SMOKEWOOD AVE PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
5102320212233 S ARABY DR ARIAS,UNDA LOUISE 1775 E PALM CANYON DR 110 PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
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510243017 2491 S ARABY DR ARNOUD,THURMAN W 111 225 S CIVIC DR 13 PALM SPRINGS CA 92262
510223002 BRAND,DEENA E 1111 N FLORES ST3 WEST HOLLYWOOD CA 90048
Y I&ERIN D BIG BEAR LAKE CA 92315
510232018 2255 S ARABY DR BRIGHAM,TIMOTH PO BOX 110410
510210008 BRUNELLE,EVERETT 27493 BELLOGENTE MISSION VIEJO CA 92691
510223018 2217 RIM RD BU RTCHARLES R&CAROL D TRUST 2217 RIM RD PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
510243016 2485 S ARABY DR CALHOUN,RICHARD W 2485 S ARABY DR PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
S10243008 2359 S ARABY DR CANAUES,RONAUD&OFELIA LIVING TRUST 2359 S ARABY DR PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
510232004 2250 E SMOKEWOOD AVE CHANTIUES,DEAN 2250 E SMOKEWOOD AVE PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
510160005 2101 RIM RD CHRISTIAN,ROBERT F&OLIVIA A 2101 RIM RD PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
510223008 2249 RIM RD CLEWELLEUGENE FREDERICKIR 2249 RIM RD PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
510243004 2355 E SMOKEWOOD AVE DRALE,JOAN KAY TRUST 2355 E SMOKEWOOD AVE PALM SPRINGS CA 922641
510223030 2255 RIM RD DUPREE,RJ 2255 RIM RD PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
510243018 2455 S ARABY DR DYKHOUSE,LAWRENCE E&CLARICE E TRUST PO BOX 2947 PALM SPRINGS CA 92263
v 510241022 2390 S ARABY DR FIUPPINI,NATALINO&MARY ELLEN 2390 S ARABY DR PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
510243019 2339 S ARABY DR GARETTKENNETH 225 S CIVIC DR 2 PALM SPRINGS CA 92262
510243010 2387 S ARABY DR GORDON,HOWARD&GERDA 2387 S ARABY DR PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
510243020 2415 S ARABY DR GOUVEIA,LARRY&GRIFFIN,BARBARA 311 2nd Street,#703 OAKLAND CA 94607
510241023 2400 S ARABY DR GRALL)OHN G PO BOX F 1706 PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
510231010 2233 E SMOKEWOOD AVE HENDERSON,MARY C TRUST 2233 E SMOKEWOOD AVE PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
510241028 2800 CHOLLA PL HOLLINGER,ANDY&TAINA 2800 CHOLLA PL PALM SPRINGS CA 1 922641
510241030 2490 S ARABY DR HORWITZ,JAY C 2490 S ARABY DR PALM SPRINGS CA 1 922641
510233017 2285 5 BISNAGA AVE HORWITZ,KAREN 2810 PACIFIC AVE 2 VENICE CA 90291
510232016 2260 E SMOKEWOOD AVE HOUGH,E BRENT&JILL M TRUST 2260 E SMOKEWOOD AVE PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
510232019 2265 S ARABY DR HOUGH,GREGORY A&KATHERINE P 2265 S ARABY DR PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
510243003 2345 E SMOKEWOOD AVE HOYTTH ERESA A 2345 E SMOKEWOOD AVE PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
S10221008 HUMPHREY,DOUGLAS 824 BRONX RIVER RD C BRONXVILLE NY 10708
510232008 2270 E SMOKEWOOD AVE HYDON,DEREK&DEBORAH TRUST 17751 SABBIADORO WAY PACIFIC PALISADES CA 90272
510242004 2380 E SMOKEWOOD AVE JOHNSON,WILLIAM P&BARBARA L 2380 E SMOKEWOOD AVE PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
510232020 2275 S ARABY DR JONES,FRANKLIN W ETAL 2275 S ARABY DR PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
510233004 2222 S ARABY DR JORDAN,PATRICK V TRUST 2222 S ARABY DR PALM SPRINGS CA 922641
510241031 2430 S ARABY DR JORGENSEN,FREDA A TRUST 2430 S ARABY DR PALM SPRINGS CA 922641
223017 2233 RIM RD KAHN,RITA 10678 ESCOBAR DR SAN DIEGO CA 92124
243001 2305 E SMOKEWOOD AVE KEMPWALTER B&RUTH E 2305 E SMOKEWOOD AVE PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
7 510232003 2240 E SMOKEWOOD AVE KILGORE,RONALD N TRUST 211 S ROSE ST KALAMAZOO MI 49007
51016001 LROY MICHAEL i 'PACIFIC AST HWY,STE 2S!REDONDO BEACH CA 50277
51024103712350 S ARABY DR I�Klf�LE 6N,R05ERT&TERRY IM356 ARABY DRPALM SPRINGS CA 92264
51022302812245 RIM RD IKLEIN,PIERRE ALEXANDRE 130 PARC DE GERLACHE L-4574DIFFERDENGE JXEMBORG
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510223027 2235 RIM RD UEVINE,DAVID S PO BOX 5294 PALM SPRINGS CA 92263
510270004 2550 S ARABY DR UEVY,DAVID MERRITT 2584 ANZA TRIL PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
510233003 2216 S ARABY DR UEWIS,BRANDON STUART 1232 18TH ST C SANTA MONICA CA 90404
510270007 LIENAU,HERB PO BOX 5412 PALM SPRINGS CA 92263
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510223026 22205 BISNAGA AVE LINDER,PAUL R TRUST 12244 CIRCULA PANORAMA SANTA ANA CA 92705
510231009 2293 E SMOKEWOOD AVE LUKE,RAYMOND F&ARDITH D TRUST 2293 E SMOKEWOOD AVE PALM SPRINGS CA 922641
dh 7, 510233008 22665 ARABY DR MANCLARK,WILLIAM R&DARLEEN J 313 E BAY FRONT NEWPORT BEACH CA 92662
510270001 2201 E SMOKEWOOD AVE MANGO RANCH 1200 17TH ST 660 DENVER CO 80202
510242006 2301 S ARABY DR MANNOFF,DOUGLAS M&DONNA T 2301 S ARABY DR PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
510241017 2929 CHOLLA Pl. MARTIN,SHELLEY L 2929 CHOLLA Pl. PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
1 510241014 2355 S BISNAGA AVE MCCULLOCH,DARIN 1 2355 S BISNAGA AVE PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
510233016 2200 S ARABY DR MEUENDY,HEIDI MCKEE PO BOX 4832 PALM SPRINGS CA 92263
510231008 2291 E SMOKEWOOD AVE MOODY,GARY E&STEPHANY J TRUST PO BOX 1156 WILSONVILLE OR 97070
510221002 MORGAN,RICHARD B&DONNA J 9609 N CEDAR RD SPOKANE WA 99208
:n 510243002 2325 E SMOKEWOOD AVE NAUERZ,STEFAN JOSEF 39 SAINT RAPHAEL LAGUNA NIGUEL CA 926771
510223005 219S RIM RD NEWMAN,ROBERT L 23852 PACIFIC COAST HWY MALIBU CA 902651
510160008 2051 RIM RD NORTON,ADELE W PO BOX 4837 PALM SPRINGS CA 92263
510232009 2290 E SMOKEWOOD AVE NUDSON,HENRY MARION TRUST 7706 W 79TH ST PLAYA DEL REY CA 90293
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OLSON,DORIS V 5960 ANOTHER LN PARADISE CA 95969
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510160016 2103 RIM RD OWENS,RICHARD A TRUST 2103 RIM RD PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
Mail Ret.-No 2299 RIM RD PAGE,CATHERINE L 2299 RIM RD PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
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510241035 2370 S ARABY DR PARRYJOYCE 2370 S ARABY DR PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
510241036 PAXTON,ANDREW F 3200 6TH AVE 303 SAN DIEGO CA 1 921031
510270011 PETTYE ALAN ETAL 596 S LA MIRADA RD PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
510231007 2283 E SMOKEWOOD AVE POULACK,KERSTIN B 2283 E SMOKEWOOD AVE PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
510210012 22905 BISNAGA AVE PURCELL)ENNIFER M 2290 S BISNAGA AVE PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
510241027 23405 ARABY DR QUEEN,DAVID L&SUSAN A 2340 S ARABY DR PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
510233005 2224 S ARABY DR RANELISA M TRUST 1512 CALLE SACRAMENTO SAN CLEMENTE CA 92672
510242005 2321 S ARABY DR REDDING)AMES L&JEAN G 348 PLANTATION DR KALISPELL MT 59901
510233018 2277 S BISNAGA AVE REED,DOROTHEY D 22775 BISNAGA AVE PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
510242003 2360 E SMOKEWOOD AVE REUSING,LAWRENCE TRUST 609 VISTA BONITA NEWPORT BEACH CA 92660
510232017 22S4 E SMOKEWOOD AVE RUPP,JULIE KAY 2254 E SMOKEWOOD AVE PALM SPRINGS CA 1 922641
510233010 2290 S ARABY DR SCARDENZAINFRANCA A 144 W FAIRVIEW BLVD INGLEWOOD CA 90302
510233011 2295 S BISNAGA AVE SCOTT DONAU)ROY 1100 IN PALM CANYON DR 108 PALM SPRINGS CA 92262
510243015 2475 S ARABY DR SEILERJOSEPH F 225 FOX HILL DR BAITING HOLLOW NY 11933
510243011 2395 S ARABY DR SMITH,GRANT B&ELIZABETH V 950 MAYO ST LOS ANGELES CA 90042
510242002 2330 E SMOKEWOOD AVE CLARK,TROY(SMOKEWOOD PALMS) 1820 38TH AVE E SEATTLE WA 98112
510241001 23005 ARABY OR STROM)AMES&JOGIE 11712 REAGAN ST LOS ALAMITOS CA 90720
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510231006 2265 E SMOKEWOOD AVE VAUENTINO,DAVID I&SUSAN 2265 E SMOKEWOOD AVE PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
510233019 2275 RIM RD VERMEER,MARGARET E TRUST 2275 RIM RD PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
.4;' 510241015 VIRTUE,AUEXANDER&CARYN C 127 WATERVIEW ST PLAYA DEL REY CA 90293
510221004 VRZAK,LORETTA 222 W SUNSET UN SAN JACINTO CA 92583
510270006 2500 S ARABY DR WESSMAN,JOHN 555 S SUNRISE WAY,STE 200 PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
510221003 WESTERN TRUST SERVICES 17025 KRISTIN AVE TORRANCE CA 90504
5102100211 WILLIAMS,GENE&CINDY 2300 BISNAGA AVE PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
.Rll :A 510221001 [LOGAN,SYLVIA 2766 AN7A TRL PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
7 1 510232010 2296 E SMOKEWOOD AVE PA R CK D 28381 CHAT DR LAGUNA NIGUEL CA 92677
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lZMAN. HAREE 1044 CALLE RECOOO A SAN CLEMENTE CA 92673
510231003 2241 E SMOKEWOOD AVE IZILKA,DANIELJ 1035 SW STARK ST PORTLAND OR 97205
510233007 2244 S ARABY DR JZWACH,BEVERLY 2244 S ARABY DR PALM SPRINGS CA 92264
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From: Steve Pougnet
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 12:11 PM 2012 JUN -5 PM 12: 53
To: Donald S. Karvelis f t7Ea f HU'i-;i
Cc: Jay Thompson; David Ready; Jennifer Nelson CITY CLER p.
Subject: Re: Bridge
Don,
Thank you VERY much for your note.
Steve
On Jun 5, 2012, at 11:02 AM, "Donald S. Karvelis" <dkarvelisna verizon.net> wrote:
Hello Steve,
I've just read the reports in The Desert Sun re the reaction of Araby Cove
residents to the bridge. It seems the opponent's arguments are completely
irrational.
My insurance agent tells me that if the insurance industry got word that in a
flood fire trucks could not access those homes, their rates would skyrocket.
Apparently, the industry is unaware of this situation. Perhaps the residents
should be informed of this possibility.
I trust the Council will hang tough on this.
Best wishes,
Don Karvelis
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From: Patrick Jordan [pjordan65@hotmail.com] 2012 JUN —5 AM & 26
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 2:01 PM
To: Steve Pougnet; Ginny Foat; Rick Hutcheson; Paul Lewin; Chris Mills J t,HE3' 7hiUP t
Cc: Jay Thompson; David Ready CITY CLERK,
Subject: Araby Drive Bridge
Dear Mayor Pougnet and Palm Springs City Council,
I sent written testimony to Jay for this weeks upcoming meeting regarding the Araby
Cove Bridge item on the agenda. I will not be able to be at the meeting but wanted to
added a few more comments to my previous testimony. While the NORG has done a
great job in beating the drum to the reasons as to why the bridge should not be built
(newspaper/tv/radio/letters to the editors etc etc) the small percentage of us have been
largely ignored, and there have been a large number of residents who have not even
responded.
I really don't see what the downside to the bridge is. It has been brought up that it will
cause crime to go up, a bridge, really? It has been brought up that the values in
property will decline, really? It has been brought up that many of the native plants will
be destroyed - there are not that many in this Federal waterway to begun with, so that's
not true either.
I really think we have a unique opportunity to create a eco-friendly bridge that serves
the purpose for safe water travel for not only the residents of upper Araby Cove but
also the service people and workers that use the road everyday too. It has also been
stated that there really are not that many hikers, also a falsehood. I see people who
walk up Araby every day and night as well as use the trails that abut the wash headed
to the East. I also jog the wash on a frequent basis so I see this first hand.
I live almost at the bottom of the street (third house up East side) so this really does
effect me more than others - and I think there is way to make this work correctly
before we throw the baby out with the bathwater so to speak. In addition the land that
has been donated to the City of Palm Springs (I think about 20 acres or so) to be
designated as open space I believe - this could be incorporated into a preserve or
something to that nature. I certainly don't want an eyesore either but I do think this is
necessary for us and for FUTURE generations - will you just throw 11mm to the wind?
Finally the reason that the NORG was formed and why we became part,of PSNIC was to
try and preserve the neighborhood and keep development along the wash. If the
bridge is built maybe something more palatable as a trade off would be to finally vacate
the streets that are along the wash (not constructed or built on) and then the drum
beating might subside. A quid pro quo so to speak.
Anyway you have enough to do and I have rattled on long enough.
All the best,
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