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CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
JULY 10, 1990
An Adjourned Regular Meeting of the City Council was called to order
by Mayor pro tem Broich in the Large Conference Room, City Hall ,
3200 Tahquitz-McCallum Way, on Wednesday, July 10, 1990, at 2 p.m.
ROLL CALL: Present: Councilmembers Broich, Hodges, Muraviski ,
and Neel
Absent: Mayor Bono (Mayor entered at beginning of
comments by John Adams)
REPORT OF POSTING OF AGENDA:
The agenda was posted in accordance with Council procedures
on July 6, 1990.
PUBLIC COMMENTS: None
JOINT PUBLIC HEARING WITH TRIBAL COUNCIL (Members in attendance:
Chairman Richard Milanovich, Lucille Torro, Sue Short, Georgiana
Ward, Ray Patencio; Attorney Art Bunce, and Planning Consultant
John Adams)
1. AA 3.0763 E.L. YEAGER CONSTRUCTION APPEAL
Appeal to the Tribal Council of the City Council ' s decision
to uphold the City Planning Commission decision of Architec-
tural Approval 3.0763, for grading plan for a parcel of
Indian Trust Land on the NW corner of Mesquite Avenue
and the extension of Belardo Road, as submitted by E.L.
Yeager Construction.
Chairman Milanovich stated that the purpose of the appeal
is for the Tribal Council to determine whether to overrule
the City Council , and allow the dirt to be placed on the
property.
Mr. Bunce explained how the Tribal Council/City Council (III-
agreement came about, noting that it designates the City 001)
as its agent to enforce city ordinances on Indian Trust
Land, allowing appeal on any questions to which there
is not a satisfactory conclusion; that the agreement is
effective for thirty years, subject to cancellation by
either party at any time; and that there have only been
seven appeals since the agreement was signed - 5 were
overruling the City Council , 1 upheld the decision, and
I was a modification of the decision.
John Adams, Planning Consultant, reviewed letter to the
City Council , dated May 22, which outlined the procedure
for the appeal , noting that the purpose of the hearing
was to receive any new information, and 'chat the decision
of the Tribal Council would be in writing within thirty
days, and would be final .
City Assistant Planning Director summarized the actions
of the Architectural Advisory Committee, the Planning
Commission and the City Council , noting that the proposal
has gotten somewhat better in terms of appearance - two
step, split slope with some contour; that Belardo Road
is on the General Plan as a scenic corridor, a feasible
entry into Tahquitz, and it should be given careful
consideration; that a small segment of the area is visible
also from South Palm Canyon Drive; that the Commission
felt that for those reasons, in addition to the
long-standing policy of not allowing a grading permit
prior to submittal of development plans, the application
should be denied;
Council Minutes l
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1. AA 3.0763 (Continued)
and as an alternate, the Commission approved the grading
of a small area at the north side of the site, which
although sooner than development plans, will serve as
an entry way to the interpretative center, and is an area
that will not remain pristine during construction of the
flood control project.
Mr. Adams summarized the actions of the Tribal Council
Planning Commission, and previous actions of the Tribal
Council concerning the project, also recognizing the sensi-
tivity of the area; the zoning; the natural slope of the
area; the possibility of considering extending and extra-
ordinary conditions to make the project as a part of phase
2 of the flood control project; the opportunity to provide
a disposal site for extra dirt for the flood project,
and to prevent up to 13,000 one-way truck trips on city
streets; the opportunity to provide a protective covering
for the highest archaeological site, rough grading for
the interpretative center road; and its recommendation
to approve the revised plan, subject to Development
Committee condition, with certain modifications of the
time line on restoration to be the same as for the flood
control project.
Chairman inquired if anyone wished to be heard.
Roger Mayer, Staff Engineer, E.L. Yeager Construction,
stated that he felt the City's actions were in error;
that the matter was not properly reviewed; that it was
inappropriate to conclude that the land could have been
split, and it was not an option that could be placed on
the applicant, and was only considered to stop the project,
and sidestep the issue, in that the visitor center aspect
was immaterial ; that the action was only to uphold a pre-
mature grading policy, and resulted in a denial without
reason; that the project is an economic benefit to the
land, will speed up development of Belardo bridge, if
it proceeds; that it is a well engineered and practical
project, and will not be readily visible to a person driving
a vehicle; that it will prevent heavy truck traffic, and
pollution; that the flood control project has stopped
awaiting this decision, and they are prepared to submit
plans and bonds to proceed.
Chairman inquired if anyone else wished to be heard.
George Marantz, 393 W. Mesquite, stated that the project
is not simply premature grading; that it would be 70,000-
90,000 yards of fill ; that he felt bidder was trying to
cut costs because they under bid the project; that the
surrounding properties will be confronted with sand and
dust; that Belardo Road Bridge will become a reality,
and people will access the interpretative center from
that area; that the area is part of the alleuvial fan,
and once the dirt is put in place, it will remain in place
6 to 20 feet in height.
Ted McKinney, 755 E. Sunny Dunes, stated that many years
have been spent to make sure the debris basin does not
look like the Tachevah Dam; that this project is well
designed, and there will be overseeding of areas disturbed;
and that it will take a lot of fill to speed up the
construction of the Belardo Bridge.
Council Minutes
7-10-90 Page 3
1. AA 3.076 (Continued)
Mr. Mayer stated that the dirt will be spread over ten
acres, ranging from 0 feet to 10 feet, and the residence
located to the west; will be visible; and that it will
be one-half the size of the fill dirt placed at the Cabazon
Discount Center on I-10, which has re-vegetated without
any assisted overseeding.
Assistant City Planning Director stated that a 2: 1 slope
can be engineered to be safe, with minimum water erosion;
that there will be some blowsand immediately after the
work, but it will subside as the earth compacts and new
growth takes, which should not be too long in 'that area.
There were no further appearances, and the Chairman closed
the hearing.
In answer to question by Tribal Council Chairman, Assistant
Planning Director stated that the "no premature grading"
policy has been a matter of practice; that the architectural
approval ordinance requires review of grading plans as
part of the approval process; and that permits are not
issued for grading alone.
In answer to questions by Tribal Council Chairman, Mr.
Mayer stated he talked with the Assistant Planning Director
before they bid the project, and he was aware that the
policy which prevented pregrading the property; that they
knew there was very little chance of having in getting
a site on private property; that Mr. Patrick Patencio
was interested in having the fill placed on his land;
that they knew there would be a problem with the City,
in that it was the City staff' s job to impose the policy;
and that they considered the project a benefit to the
Tribe and to the land owner. He stated that; the Planning
Commission addressed a plan that covers the public areas
of the interpretative center, which was never submitted
by Yeager, and which was not an option, and should not
have been considered by the AAC, the Planning Commission,
or the City Council .
Assistant City Planning Director pointed out the two areas
on the plan which was on display, and what had been before
the Planning Commission, the two areas; one which -is the
project under consideration, and for which there was a
straight forward denial ; and the other which showed the
proposed grading on the north side (access to the interpre-
tative center) of the site, which the Commission indicated
would be approved if it could be worked out between the
parties.
Mr. Mayer stated that the Planning Commission would approve
premature grading in one instance, but not in the other;
that there is a lot of rip rap required for the debris
basin; that the boulders will be removed for that purpose,
along with boulders from Mr. Patencio's property; and
that the finer grain materials would be shared with Mr.
Patencio; that if the appeal is lost, there will be a
charge for rough grading 6elardo Road, estimated between
$20,000 and $30,non.
In answer to question by Council , Mr. Adams stated that
he was not aware of any plans for development of Mr.
Patencio' s property, but it is reasonable with -the
development of the flood project, completion of the bridge,
and lifting of the watercourse zoning prefix, to see
activity in the area. Mr. Mayer stated that the rough
grading if done apart from the project, would be estimated
at $100,000.
Council Minutest
7-10-90 Page 4
1. AA 3.076 (Continued)
In answer to question by Tribal Council , Mr. Mayer stated
that removing the dirt is the responsibility of the
contractor; that usually there is a premium for the dirt;
that they could have picked uo some money if it had been
arranged to dumped on the Hinsvark parcel , however, the
Patencio property was chosen because of the appeal right
to the Tribal Council , and their confidence, in taking
the risk that an appeal would prevail , and if it did not,
they would haul away the dirt.
In answer to question by the Mayor, Mr. Bunce stated that
the Tribal Council 's action has been by its resolution,
within thirty days, which disposes of the appeal and there
is no further discussion.
Mayor stated that he feels both Council 's decisions are
for the overall good of the City and its future, and what
each wants to achieve; that he feels both of those are
coming closer together, and that it is essential that
they become mutual ; that he is confident the Tribal Council
will make a wise decision, and whatever the choices are,
he asked that the Tribal Council look at both entities
goals, and if they fit together, somewhere therein lies
the answer.
Tribal Council Chairman stated that the Tribal Council
members live in the city, and know what it means to be
part of a community; that whatever decision is made, he
feels it will be in the best interest of Lhe citizens
and the community; that Tribal Members and the public
have rights that must be protected, and perhaps if the
City's policy had been in writing, this matter would not
have gone this far, however, Yeager should have known
and planed for it; and that the Tribal Council will take
the best course available, which will be in the best
interest of the citizens of Palm Springs.
2. CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FUNDING
At the Study Session of July 3, 1990, the Council requested
that the Chamber of Commerce be invited to discuss its
recommendation for funding, and that of the Council subcom-
mittee.
Councilmember Broich stated that he and Councilmember
Murawski met with a committee of the Chamber and its
Executive Director, and he felt they had reach an agreement.
Councilmember Murawski read the final draft of the under- (061)
standing which he and Councilmember Broich had agreed
to, a copy of which is on file with the City Clerk, and
which provides that the Chamber will modify its bylaws
and policy statements concerning full membership status,
and implementation of visitors and business referrals
and information, and asked that the Council adopt those
stipulations under which funds would be provided to the
Chamber.
Council Minutes
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2. CHAMBER FUNDING (Continued)
Marshall Stone, President of the Chamber of Commerce,
asked that the Council Fund the request without restric-
tions; that the Chamber provides 89,000 referrals to local
businesses, and only 900 are referred to out--of-town busi-
nesses; that the City does not have anyone performing
this type of service, and he did not believe the City
could do it for $158,000; that the City should fund the
Chamber' s request for another year, during which the City
could set up a replacement process; that the Chamber can
provide monthly reports of its referrals both local .and
out-of-town; and that it was the Chamber who first started
the grand prix, and the film festival .
Rolph Arnhym, Chamber Executive Director, reported that
the Economic Development and [lost programs were approved,
and asked that they be separated from the issue of visitor
information and referral ; that the conditions suggested
by the Council subcommittee requires a change in the
Chamber' s bylaws, limiting membership and dictating policy;
that other entities in the community receive tax dollars,
and are not subject to the same conditions, e.g. , the
Senior Center, the Library, the Boys Club, nor does the
City's purchasing policies limit themselves to local
merchants only; that the Chamber' s goal is to convert
contacts to Palm Springs businesses; that the Chamber
developed the slogan, "Palm Springs First;" that membership
is what drives the organization, and it cannot change
that, nor will it; and that its final offer is to continue
the program for one year, without any changes.
Bill Marzone, Palm Springs Hotel Association , stated that
if visitor services are funded with public funds, that
it should be the main concern of the City's Tourism Division
that information given must refer equally and exclusively
to business in Palm Springs.
Councilmember Murawski stated that if the Chamber can
agree with the conditions, he is willing to approve the
funding, and would encourage the Chamber to do so; .and
if it is not willing to accept those conditions, he is
not willing to approve the funding.
Councilmember Broich agreed, and noted that in terms of
purchasing policies, the City is guided by certain laws,
and it has little control over who bids, and when it may
not award to low bidders.
Councilmember Neel stated that the Chamber represents
over 1,000 businesses , and the funds should be provided,
which is not a significant portion of the Chamber' s budget;
that it is a private entity, and the City should not be
attaching those kind) of strings.
Councilmember Hodges stated that tax dollars going to
the benefit; of a private group, must be in addition to
the benefit of the people in the City; that the Council
is not anti-business, and withholding the funds is not
a statement of that; rather, that the best: interest of
the citizens must be considered.
Mayor stated that the Council has gone to some outside
consulting firms for the purpose of assisting it in helping
to bring new dollars to the community, and the comparison
is not a fair one to make.
Council Minutes
7-10-90 Page 6
2. CHAMBER FUNDING (Continued0
Mr. Stone stated that the Chamber 'is a membership organiza-
tion, and it cannot have a local government tell it how
to have its bylaws; that the Chamber is working hard to
take care of all of Palm Springs; that the Council is
playing with words, and he finds that unfair to 'the public;
and 'that if the Council wants to stop the program, it
should only do so, when it has something to replace it.
It was moved by Murawski , and seconded by Broich, that
the conditions, as read, be adopted, and if followed by
the Chamber, the funds will be provided; and in 'the absence
of doing so, no funds for any purpose shall be provided.
Councilmember Broich stated that his strong belief is
that tax dollars cannot be used to promote anything other
than Palm Springs citizens and merchants; and that the
City should get an information center on-line as quickly
as possible.
Councilmember Murawski asked that steps be taken as quickly
as possible to open the expanded services at 'the Welwood
Murray Library, and to move ahead with any other proposals
in terms of visitor services.
Mayor stated that he was convinced that the goals of both
the Chamber and the Council are the same, i .e. , to promote
and help produce revenue in the comrrunity; that he thought
the meeting of the subcommittees might find a reasonable
solution and that everyone could move forward as a united
force, rather than separately, adding confrontation in
the wheel forward; that he realized the Chamber would
lose $50,000 in out-of-city memberships, however, in the
long run, the amount in the city could be considerably
more; that perhaps the Chamber would consider trying it
for one year, and if it did not work out, 'then end it
- rather than asking the Council to try it for one more
year; and that he wanted to avoid confrontation, but that
the choice is that of the Chamber.
Mr. Arnhym stated that regardless of the decision, the
Chamber will move forward, and live with it; that the
neither the Executive Committee, nor 30% of the membership
feel that such policy and bylaws changes should be made;
and that the Chamber has stretched as far as it an.
Councilmember Neel stated that he felt the action would
be pulling the rug out from under the Chamber, in that
will mean refunds to out-of-town memberships.
Councilmember Murawski stated that the conditions do not
require that, rather that those memberships would be dropped
on renewal dates.
Motion by Murawski , seconded by Broich, to grant funding
if the conditions are met, otherwise to withhold all City
funding of the Chamber, was adopted, by the following
vote:
AYES: Broich, Hodges, Murawski & Bono
NO: Neel
ABSENT: None
Council Minutes
7-1.0-90 Page 7
2. CHAMBER FUNDING (Continued)
Councilmember Hodges stated that she fell: the Mayor's
compromise was worthwhile, and something the Chamber could
have done.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, Mayor declared the meeting
adjourned to Wednesday, July 11, 1990, at 7:30 p.m. ., in
the Council Chamber.
JUDITH SUMICH
City Clerk