HomeMy WebLinkAbout5/3/1983 - MINUTES CITY OF PALM SPRINGS
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
MAY 3, 1983
An Adjourned Regular Meeting of the City Council was called to order
by Mayor Bogert, in the Large Conference Room, City Hall , 3200
i Tahquitz-McCallum Way, on Tuesday, May 3, 1983, at 1 :30 p.m.
ROLL CALL: Present: Councilmembers Doyle, Foster, Maryanov, Ortner
& Mayor Bogert
Absent: Councilmember Ortner (Mrs. Ortner entered
during presentation of Dir. of Com. Dev. )
Purpose of the meeting: Joint Hearing with Tribal Council on appeals
to it. Tribal Councilmembers Present: Lucille Toro, Sue Short,
Eugene Segundo, Jr. , Richard Milanovich, and Chairman Barbara Gonzales;
Tribal Council Attorney Buntz, and Tribal Council Planning Consultant
Adams
1 . DRAINAGE FEE APPEALS - TEXAS WESTERN (TTM 14661-62)/WESSMAN PD
131/KNUTSON PD 89 & TTM 15049
Mayor turned the meeting over to Tribal Council Chairman.
City Staff Report: Director of Community Development distrib-
uted report to the City Council , dated May 3, 1983, indicating
` the manner in which the Tribal Council 's concerns, expressed
in its letter of June, 1981 , have been addressed, and read
from his report the final paragraph relative to the City
Engineer' s conclusions. He displayed the base drainage plan,
overlaying markings indicating the vacant fee and Indian-owned
lands; and explained the various exhibits attached to his (116 &
report, including a chronology of events for each case 137)
appealed, the amount of vacant land for each drainage area,
' the fee for same, the percentage of which is Indian land,
and the total dollars that it represents ($11 ,265,722 or
18%) .
HERE COUNCILMEMBER ORTNER JOINED THE MEETING
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He requested that copies of the appeal letters be provided
to the City.
City Manager stated that the community voted to impose on
itself the assessment district drainage fee which will generate
approximately $18 million from developed fee lands over the
next 15 years, and coupled with the anticipated revenue of
the drainage fee on undeveloped Indian and Fee land, will
result in an amount very close to that which is projected
as needed for the total project; that unless mitigation
measures are taken, any new development will cause someone
downstream to have problems; and that the drainage fee is
a proper and fair mitigation measure.
Tribal Council Planning Consultant, John Adams, gave an
historic overview, stating that in April , 1981 , when the
fees for the south, central and eastern areas were being
considered in Tribal Council letter, it was noted that the
Indian-owned land represented $23+ million; and that the
Tribal Council ' s concern was that the benefit relate to the
+ cost and not have an adverse impact on the development of
the community. He highlighted several letters of the Tribal
Council sent to the City Council in 1981 and 1982, relative
• to Res. 9107, the 1967 adoption of the Master Plan for Flood
Control and Drainage, and the conditions included therewith.
He read findings of the Indian Planning Commission, a
• copy of which is on file in the office of the City Clerk,
and its recommendation, in essence, as follows:
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That Resolution 13724 be rescinded in so far as it affects
Indian Trust Lands, until such time as: a) the City Council
complies with conditions set forth in Resolution 9107 ;
and b) the City Council takes appropriate and proper
steps to delete the conditions of Res. 9107 from the
Master Plan of Flood Control and Drainage.
Tribal Council Attorney Buntz stated that the Indian
Planning Commission acted, in part, on comments which
he provided to it, relating to the nature of the fees
and conclusion that imposition of the fee, without •
complying with conditions of Res. 9107, was tantamount
to amending the General Plan, without doing so; that
he thought a challenge in court would succeed, and that
"implementation" is the key word; and that if it is tanta- CONT'D
mount to General Plan amendment, there may be a violation (116 &
of CEQA. 137)
a) Texas Western Appeal :
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Allen Perrier, attorney representing appellant, stated
that there were no concerns about drainage fees or
school fees at the time tentative map was approved
for 60-unit project; that project -includes design
which attempts to address retention of a 10-year
storm; that several days prior to expiration of the
tentative map, the only detail to be completed before
recording the final map was t:he subdivision agreement;
that since the developer had a financial commitment
from a lender and had $75,000 invested in the project,
he opted to seek the extension; that and unsuccessful
effort was made to seek approval of the extension
on the first March, 1981 meeting, and three days
prior to the second meeting, information was received
that drainage fees of $120,000 would be added as
a condition; that his client signed a letter, without
advice from counsel , acknowledging that he would
pay the fees ; that the map extension, the final map,
and application of drainage fees to all projects Y
were all approved on March 18, 1981 ; that prior to
1981 action, minutes of a staff task force referred
to its review of Res. 9107, and he did not believe
the Council was aware of the conditions; that there
were no hearings or notices to property owners or
the Tribal Council , and he thought CEQA had been u
violated; that case law declares that additional
conditions cannot be imposed on map extensions , and
that he did not think there were any grounds to estop
his client. He presented letter relating to his
comments.
There were no other comments.
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1 . DRAINAGE FEE APPEALS (Cont'd)
4 b) P.D. 131 (Wessman) :
Mr. Adams stated that Mr. Wessman had advised him
that he was going to be out-of-town; and that he —had installed the improvement according to the Master
Plan, but still wished the appeal heard because he
questioned the validity of the fee.
c) PD 89 (Knutson)
Mr. Knutson stated that he faces $250,000 in fees, CONT'D
which places his project in jeopard,/;that the economy (116 &
has stifled his ability to get the project started; 137)
that he did not object to drainage fees, per se,
but questioned approach of upfront money; that he
cannot make the project pencil out and cannot attract
people to the project because of the high up-front
money needed; that he would like to see the cost
benefit studies to determine the true nature of the
dollars; that he would like to participate, but would
like to spread out the costs in order to permit people
w who come on-board to be able to amortize the cost;
that the plight of the developer should be considered,
and still maintain a drainage system; and that his
property is not in the central portion of the City,
although designated in the central drainage area,
and does not have the same land value as properties
in Section 14.
There were no further comments.
City Manager stated that the City has legal opinion that
appropriate cost benefit studies will be done at the
appropriate time, but such are not necessary in order
to establish the imposition of the fee; that he did not
believe it was the intent to spend the dollars needed
to do the studies, when the projects would not be done
for years; and that the studies will be done when the
time comes and the certainty for the project will be
determined before it is undertaken; that the drainage
fee in-place at the time it was applied as a condition
is that which would apply and it could be decreased but
not increased.
" There were no further appearances; Chairman declared
the hearing closed.
In response to questions by Council , Assistant City
Attorney , stated that the master plan does not become
"implemented" until money is expended, contract let,
and the hardware is in place, despite title of the
resolution; that the agreement with the Tribal Council
provides that an appeal stays all proceedings, however,
in the case of Texas Western, the subdivision agreement
came into effect as part of the time extension and the
Final Map was recorded; that sequence of events is
important, and once the drainage fee condition was in
place, if the developer intended to object to it, then
it was incumbent on him not to proceed any further -
which was not the case; the map was recorded and the
development proceeded, in particular, the developer
accepted the benefit of approval and allowing him to
proceed; and that he believed the developer was estopped
from asserting that the fees should not have been imposed.
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1 . DRAINAGE FEE APPEALS (Continued)
He stated that the resolution establishing the drainage
fee does not amend the General Plan, and CEQA does not
apply to a resolution which imposes fees ; that "project"
under CEQA would take place when implementation starts,
as previously noted by him; that the "171 Patio" case
relates to not imposing conditions on extensions; in
this case, the condition was not on the extension but CONT'D
by agreement of the developer to become subject to the (116 &
fee because the City had discretionary power to extend 137)
the map - there was good reason not to extend the map,
since drainage plan had been adopted, the fee established,
and funds taken from developers to fund it; and to grant
an extension without the collection of the fee, would
result in the project not carrying its fair share.
City Councilmembers questioned if the Tribal Council
would be satisified if the City Council were to remove
the three conditions from the General Plan, to which
there was no direct answer, but an indication that it
would be part of the mix that the Tribal Council would
consider.
Tribal Council Chairman stated that the Council has 30
days in which to makes it decision, and that an informa-
tional study meeting between the two Councils might: be
desirable during that 30-day period. There was some
discussion as to the purpose for such a meeting, and
it was suggested that the Mayor and Tribal Council Chairman
meet prior to arranging a date., in order to determine
the specific agenda to be discussed.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, Mayor declared the meeting +
adjourned.
JUDITH SUMICH
City Clerk