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CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
October 27, 2004
An Adjourned Meeting of the City Council of the City of Palm Springs, California, was
called to order by Mayor Pro Tern Mills, at the Convention Center, 277 N. Avenida
Caballeros, on Wednesday, October 27, 2004, at 5:00 p.m., at which time, the City
Attorney announced items to be discussed in Closed Session. There was a public
reception held from 6-7:00 p.m., and open session re -convened 7:00 p.m.
CALL TO ORDER - SPRINGS CONFERENCE ROOM — 5:00 P.M.
a) Roll Call (as all entities)
Present: Councilmembers, Foat, McCulloch, Pougnet, and
Mayor Pro Tern Mills
Absent: Mayor Oden
CLOSED SESSION
a) Announcement of Closed Session Items, and Public Comments thereon
(See Page 3 of agenda)
b) Convene Closed Session (to be held at Convention Center)
RE -CONVENE - CALL TO ORDER - SPRINGS CONFERENCE ROOM — 7:00 P.M.
a) Roll Call (as all entities)
Present:
Absent:
b) Flag Salute
PRESENTATIONS: None
Councilmembers, Foat, McCulloch, Pougnet, and
Mayor Pro Tern Mills
Mayor Oden
REPORT OF POSTING OF AGENDA:
Acting City Clerk reported the agenda was posted on Friday, October 22, 2004,
in accordance with established policies and procedures.
REPORT OF CITY ATTORNEY ON MATTERS DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION (All
Entities) - See items on Page 3 of agenda this date.
City Attorney announced there were no reportable items.
HOUSING AUTHORITY: INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY: FINANCING
AUTHORITY: COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY: No Business
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CITY COUNCIL
MAYOR'S WELCOME
Mayor Pro Tern Mills made welcoming statement.
PUBLIC COMMENTS: None.
COUNCIL WORKSHOP FORMAT
1. COMMUNITY INPUT
CITY STRATEGIC PLANNING AND VISIONING PROCESS
October 27, 2004
Mayor Pro Tem Mills introduced Duane Knapp, the strategic planning and
visioning process facilitator.
Jane Smith, city of residency was not disclosed, read her letter outlining her
many concerns including: (letter submitted and on file)
• Key staff members should reside in Palm Springs;
• PM10 issues, the processes within the Planning Department; and
• Continued development in Palm Springs.
Carol Bertold, Palm Springs, read a letter submitted to senators opposing
amendment 3874 concerning land acquisition for a homeless shelter near the
City's entrance. (letter submitted and on file)
Amanda Speed, representative from The Fair Housing Council of Riverside
County, Inc., spoke of the need for affordable housing.
Peter Fitzgerald, Palm Springs, resides near Ruth Hardy Park, spoke in support
of the comments made by Amanda Speed, suggested post high school education
facilities be located in Palm Springs, and commented he likes the Palm Springs
flavor and supports un-gated and open neighborhoods.
Bill Mathews, Palm Springs, spoke of the growth in Palm Springs, supports
controlled managed growth and development, and suggested exploring
alternatives relating to affordable housing, and the empty storefronts in north
Palm Springs.
Mindy Wooley, Palm Springs, resides in Sunrise Norte, commented on the lack
of space for the children in her neighborhood for playing, commented on the
vacant lot near her home, and asked if it was possible for the City to acquire the
lot for a children's playground.
Jon Hildner, Palm Springs, commented on the following and submitted a letter for
the record:
• Downtown should be plaza like rather than a strip,
• Have commercial/retail/residential downtown,
• Conduct a study not just in Palm Springs, but include surrounding
communities on how money and where money is spent,
• Create more public places,
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• Discouraged gated communities and cookie -cutter houses, and
• Create a sense of 'place' for both residents and tourists.
April Hildner, Palm Springs, spoke stating concurrence to the comments made by
Jon Hildner.
Duane Knapp, Facilitator, ask participants to think of three (3) cities they think
Palm Springs should be like and submit the names of those cities at the end of
the meeting.
Pat Grimm, Palm Springs, suggested pro -active town hall meetings, and starting
the dissemination of information relating to proposed development projects
earlier in the process.
Councilmember Foat stated she and Councilmember Mills have been working on
a neighborhood council process and would encourage Ms. Grimm to become
involved.
Unknown man from audience stated all pending projects are posted in the
Planning Department at City Hall and may be viewed by the public.
Mr. Stuart, Palm Springs, stated buyers have a responsibility to look at the
zoning code in the area in which they are buying their homes.
Frank Gaydos, Palm Springs, commented on the high values on the quality of
life, and the meaning of value is not the same for all people. He introduced the
following persons: Mallika Albert, Dana Stewart, Greg Day, Scott Kennedy, and
Frank Tyson.
Mallika Albert, Palm Springs, stated she was inspired by the July 2004 Visioning
Session and suggested Palm Springs e-Village, a community network. (letter
submitted and on file)
Dana Stewart, Palm Springs, stated much is at stake at the present time, i.e. the
Section 14 referendum, Hillside initiative, and the Palm Hills referendum. She
also suggested joint citizen and city staff processes.
Greg Day, Palm Springs, spoke of creating a visioning process, stated he did not
feel the current process is adequate.
Scott Kennedy, a representative of Palm Springs Modern Committee,
commented on the following:
• Would support a planning staff member to interact with the citizens
possessing more knowledge relating to CEQA requirements, historic
structures, flexible state historic building codes, etc. would be a positive
change;
• Supports the Contempo Homes projects;
' Opposes the Palm Springs Village project; and
• Feels Planned Development Districts are not compatible with the Palm
Springs village image.
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Frank Tysen, Palm Springs, spoke of downtown revitalization and tourism. He '
stated tourists are not supportive of the current developments, suggested adding
quality anchor stores and getting rid of the mall quality stores, make downtown
fun and classy, and criticized the type of merchandise and the clientele at
VillageFest.
Mayor Pro Tern Mills stated Palm Springs will never be like Santa Barbara. He
adding the term "Village" is used to describe a feeling (atmosphere) not
necessarily the look. He commended Duane Knapp and his assignment to the
audience for the assignment of supplying the name of three (3) cities they would
like Palm Springs to be like.
Additionally, Mayor Pro Tern Mills stated the planning process is not perfect;
however, it has improved recently with the formation of neighborhood groups.
He stated his concurrence with comments regarding providing information
relating to pending planning projects to the public as early as possible.
Councilmember Foat stated every time the Council makes a decision they must
balance everything, and the Council is not proud of some things. She added
they are working with Mr. Wessman and progress is slow. She stated some
shops have been there a long time, and they have lost some businesses i.e.
Saks and Leeds.
Dana Stewart, Palm Springs, suggested focusing on redevelopment instead of
new development. '
Ernie Vincent, Palm Springs, stated he moved to Palm Springs from Upland, and
provided comments on the following:
• The Hillside initiative has good intentions; however, you cannot take other
people's property; and
• There should be dialog between developer's and citizens.
Carole Sukman, Palm Springs, favors growth when it is handled properly, stated
Palm Springs will never be like the cities down Valley due to the fact there is so
much Indian property in Palm Springs, suggested getting stores i.e. Crate &
Barrel and The Gap for its residents and citing high end stores had been here
and left Palm Springs due to lack of business. In closing, she stated she did not
want Palm Springs to be like Orange County.
Dennis Cunningham, Palm Springs, spoke supporting responsible growth, stating
the City has a good Council, Planning Commission, and planning department
with a good process. Due to the fact it is a good process he feels it should not be
discarded and a new process put in its place. Instead of starting a new process
the current process may be enhanced. He stated he concurred with Mayor Pro
Tern Mills' comments regarding looking at Santa Barbara for ideas, and adding
he is a former resident of Santa Barbara and Santa Barbara has had its own
share of problems in the past.
James Hayton, Palm Springs, commented on the Following: '
• Left Orange County, opposed the greed of developers and lack of vision;
• Opposes cookie -cutter homes; and
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The Shadowrock development.
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Jon Caffery, Palm Springs, representing Palm Springs Economic Development
Corporation, commented on the following:
• The need for affordable housing;
• The need for some high end developments,
• The need for quality growth;
• The need to adhere to the General Plan; and
• Planning by referendum and initiative is wrong.
In closing Mr. Caffery stated Palm Springs has a unique charm; therefore, this
City does not need to be like other cities.
Councilmember Foat stated the City has lost some of its business in the
downtown to the surrounding cities due to incentives those cities have offered
these businesses, and asked for his opinion on how the Council may be able to
keep some of these businesses from moving.
Mr. Caffery stated they are working on getting good stores to be located
downtown, Main Street, and the Desert Fashion Plaza, working on the parking
issue, downtown clean up, etc. to help bring more businesses to downtown.
Monte Stettin, Palm Springs, spoke of including solar energy in the City's vision,
and providing incentives.
Jim Stuart, Palm Springs, provided the following comments:
• Relating to chain businesses, Ruby's and Starbucks are chains and have
not been bad for the City;
• Would support a joint powers authority (JPA) for public safety (both police
and fire) with the Cities of Cathedral City and Desert Hot Springs; and
• Mello -Roos (assessment districts) is not good for home resales within the
assessment districts.
Steve Nichols, Palm Springs, commented on the following:
Measure V (temporary increase in the utility users tax) needs to be
passed by the voters;
Does not feel there would be realized savings by forming a JPA for public
safety; however, some savings may be realized if the dispatching function
was combined with the neighboring jurisdictions; and
A General Plan initiative is the worst thing for the City.
Councilmember McCulloch stated combining dispatch functions has been
addressed at CVAG, and the task force is exploring the possibilities.
Nick Chicola, Palm Springs, provided the following comments:
• The City needs a mission statement and without one visioning is not
possible;
• Downtown, redevelopment and the Desert Fashion Plaza needs to be
addressed; and
• The City can make incremental changes, i.e. types of developments and
stop approving gated communities.
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Councilmember Pougnet stated downtown is actually a larger area than the '
Desert Fashion Plaza, adding that he and Mayor Pro Tern Mills serves on the
subcommittee and they are looking at all those issues.
Councilmember Foat provided an explanation relating to Council subcommittees
to the audience.
Sheila Grattan, Palm Springs, stated her vision of downtown would include
walkways meandering to and from the Convention Center, to downtown, Desert
Fashion Plaza, the casino, and museum. This walkway could include shading
and a misting system (to encourage usage during the summer months), native
plants, lighting, and benches along the route.
Wesley Cole, Palm Springs, provided the following comments:
• It is difficult to have vision if the eyes are closed, and some people have
provided only negative comments. He has talked to many people and
comments he has received were positive;
• There are many businesses downtown other than at the mall;
• John Wessman has made many improvements at the mall; and
• The downtown area is in need of being cleaned up.
Nancy Stuart, Palm Springs, spoke of the following:
• Visions require money;
• Tax base will need to be increased;
• Smart planning is needed. The need for commercial clusters, i.e. Wal-
mart located at Ramon and Gene Autry. Due to the location it will draw
shoppers outside of the City of Palm Springs.
• Regarding earlier comments relating to chain businesses. She added
she shops at SteinMart. The SteinMart in Palm Springs is stocked
differently than the one located at the eastern part of the Coachella
Valley. Chains will tailor the merchandise carried in their stores toward
the clientele.
Joy Meredith, Palm Springs, stated she noted there were eight (8) members of
the General Plan Steering Committee present at tonight's meeting. Additionally,
citizens need to become involved if they want to be informed, adding the Council
cannot be expected to go door to door disseminating information. She added
she checks the City's website weekly and goes to the Office of the City Clerk for
information.
Duane Knapp, facilitator, thanked all the participants.
CONTINUED STRATEGIC PLANNING AND VISIONING PROCESS
No discussion.
NEXT STEPS IN STRATEGIC PLANNING AND VISIONING PROCESS
Duane Knapp, facilitator, stated these ideas will be collected and funneled into I
meaningful priorities and guidelines will be produced.
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' The City Manager added ideas will continue to be accepted through November
10, 2004, and the next Strategic Planning and Visioning Session will most likely
take place in January 2005.
Councilmember Foat commented this document will serve as a guide and shall
be a fluid document.
Mayor Pro Tern Mills stated this information is important as the City will be
starting the process to update the City's General Plan.
Councilmember Pougnet stated concurrence to comments made by
Councilmember Foat and Mayor Pro Tern Mills. He added, though some
comments were negative, the City can learn from negative comments.
Councilmember McCulloch thanked everyone for their participation.
COUNCIL COMMENTS/ANNOUNCEMENTS/INTERAGENCY REPORTS: None
REPORTS & REQUESTS:
CITY COUNCIL reports or requests:
Councilmember Pougnet requested rent control statistics from speaker Amanda
Speed.
PUBLIC reports or requests: None
STAFF reports or requests: None
ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, Mayor Pro Tern Mills declared the meeting
adjourned at 9:54 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Kathie Hart, CMC
Acting City Clerk
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