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Home My WebLink About2009-04-20 - ARC MinutesCITY OF PALM SPRINGS ARCHITECTURAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE MINUTES OF APRIL 20, 2009 Council Chamber, City Hall 3200 East Tahquitz Canyon Way, Palm Springs, CA 92262 ATTENDANCE: Present: Absent: YTD Attendance: Chris Sahlin, Chair X Paul Ortega, Vice Chair X Doug Hudson X Lance O'Donnell X Michael King X Robert Parker Donald Wexler Jeffrey Jurasky 6 7 7 7 7 X 5 X 0 X 0 (Roll Call record is from January 2009 thru meeting of April 20, 2009) CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 3:05 p:m. by Chair Chris Sahlin. Planning Commissioner Present: Commissioner Donenfeld APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Approval of Minutes for meeting of April 6, 2009. ACTION: M/S/C (Hudson/ King) 5-0-1 for the approval of the minutes for meeting of April 20, 2009. REVISIONS TO AGENDA: None PUBLIC COMMENTS: Three (3) minute time limit per person on matters within the jurisdiction of the Architectural Advisory Committee. Chair Sahlin mentioned that public comments specific to an agenda item will be heard at the time the case is presented. AGENDA ITEM # 3: CASE NO 3.3333, TTM 36165, 7.1320 AMM; 3130 North Indian Canyon Drive Moderate Income For -Sale Condos. Major Architectural App by Community Dynamics & Community Redevelopment Agency. (KL) AAC members offered the following comments and recommendations: Paul Ortega: 1. Would like to see project return with final landscape, this is only a plant list. 2. Concern about openings between rows of carports too narrow — safety risk of people stepping out into drive aisles. 3. While it is a desert plant palette, some species such as aloe do not do well in summer heat. 4. Some of the proposed plants need more maintenance than other possible choices — recommend selections that require little or preferably NO maintenance. 5. Concern about using some species that go dormant in summer (dead looking) local landscape maintenance firms may not know how to appropriately handle these. AAC Agenda Item #1 Architectural Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes of April 20, 2009 Lance O'Donnell: 1. Need site sections to confirm sun issues w/patios. 2. Drive path works well with its meandering layout. 3. Added windows on end walls seem "fussy"; need additional study to determine better layout and appropriate number. 4. Unsure whether current design solves the solar control at the inside courtyard elevations; consider simplifying the metal sun shades over the windows to be continuous between "pop -outs" and allow the sun shade to extend out beyond the 1 foot pop -out depth of the adjacent units. Doug Hudson: 1. Need site/building sections and 3d drawings, elevations alone don't show well. 2. Site still problematic — carport separation a "too small gesture" to earlier comments; still a dreadful scheme. 3. Great deal of problems with back-to-back patios — this is a flawed scheme. 4. Should have front doors to the street — especially along Simms and San Rafael. 5. Project should have better facades, more creativity on windows is needed. 6. Color palette good, but building colors may be too subtle to visually show the differentiation. Use wall colors with more contrast. 7. Problems with the 2 foot high walls at patios — seems odd. Consider introducing more variation in height at these patios. 8. North and south ends of carports need closure wall/screening so people going down Simms or San Rafael don't look down several hundred feet of parked cars. Chris Sahlin: 1. Rear elevations are problematic. Don't like the empty upper portion of the patio closets; if it has no function, eliminate it. Does not work to separate units on that fagade. 2. Back to back patios still a problem, not very livable, especially with the A/C condensers in them. (heat and noise) 3. Consider varying the distance from the property line along Indian Canyon to the patio enclosure walls it is not just one long static dimension from the street, give it some visual relief. Vary it 5 feet or more from each other. 4. Likes the color palette, but reds fade to pink in the desert — concern with door colors. 5. Building wall colors need more contrast. 6. Site plan is still an issue/problematic. 7. Need more of a modern look to the facades —looks pueblo -like, not modern; needs more consideration given to size, variation and pattern of windows. Windows should be operable 8. Needs a swimming pool for 51 units. ACTION: Motion (Hudson) Second (O'Donnell) Restudy taking into account all of the above comments, and specifically: 1. Bring back sectional drawings through site and 3d portrayal of facades (eye -level perspectives is preferred). 2. Garden walls need more variation in height and setback. 3. Carport structures need to be broken up more. 4. Site plan issues "woefully under designed". 5. (O'Donnell:) Study operational windows for natural ventilation/cross-ventilation. Vote: 5-0-1 (Parker absent) Architectural Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes of April 20, 2009 AGENDA ITEM # 4: CASE NO 3.0619: Ed Randall for Colony Palms Hotel to install a fabric awning at the main entrance of hotel at 572 N. Indian Canyon Dr., Zone R-3, Section 11. (GM) Staff presentation was made by Glenn Mlaker who briefly described the placement of an entry way canopy in the front of the hotel. The canopy will be fabric with a terracotta color to match interior colors located within the courtyard of the hotel. Staff requested that the support poles for the canopy be placed out of the public sidewalk and locate them within the planter beds. Ed Randall of Bob Edwards construction, the contractor for the job, made a brief presentation directing the attention of the AAC to a newly submitted plan which showed the support poles for the canopy located within the planter beds, and he was available to answer questions. AAC members offered the following comments and recommendations: 4.a Canopy is out of scale with existing building. It does not relate to building architecture. 4.b Look for a landscape solution to provide shade cover and frame the entrance way. 4.c Questioned the need for the small side panels of the canopy. 4.d Layout of entry with steps, HD railing, and portal entrance to courtyard are a concern. ACTION: M/S/C: (O'Donnell/ King) 5-0-1 (Parker absent) to recommend a re -study of the case. AGENDA ITEM # 5: CASE NO 3.1613 — Re -Study: Von's Grocery store for an exterior remodel to include a new tower element and repaint at the Rimrock Shopping Center, 4733 East Palm Canyon Drive, Zone CDN, Section 30. (GM) ACTION: This item will be continued to a future meeting. AGENDA ITEM # 6: CASE NO 3.3323 SFR, 6.512 VAR & 7.1235 AMM — Harold J. Meyerman to construct a new single family residence on a.vacant hillside lot at 581 Palisades Drive, Section 15, Zone R-1-A, Section 15. (DN) Staff presentation was made by David A. Newell, Associate Planner, who described the proposed single family residence. He noted that the applicant has requested a Variance application to reduce the north property line setback to zero feet and an Administrative Minor Modification application to increase the building height to twenty-three feet and eight inches. Jim Cioffi, architect and owner's representative, described the proposed residence and answered various questions. Frank Tysen of 175 South Cahuilla Road spoke of his concerns on the proposed residence and requested further review time for neighborhood involvement. Dennis Cunningham, owner of an adjacent property, spoke in favor of the proposed residence. The Committee discussed the project further and requested clarification of notification requirements. Staff explained the notification requirements of the Zoning Code and notification that is provided to the neighborhood organizations. Discussion proceeded and the Committee offered the following comments: 6.a Upper roof could be even stronger. 6.b Setback variance and recess in hill helps minimize view impacts. ACTION: M/S/C (King/Hudson) 5-0-1 (Parker absent) to recommend approval as submitted. Architectural Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes of April 20, 2009 CHAIRMAN / COMMITTEE / STAFF COMMENTS: Chair: Chair Sahlin made mention that he attended the California Preservation Foundation conference this past week and participated in several workshops and witnessed the keynote speaker. This speaker made many insightful comments regarding his perspective on preservation. Vice Chair: None Committee Member King: Encouraged staff to diligently review time extensions for previously approved projects during these difficult economic times. He mentioned that City standards should not be relaxed. ADJOURNMENT: There being no further comments, the AAC meeting adjourned at 5:05 p.m. Respectfully submitted, r �o E ward O. ertson Principal Planner M