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Home My WebLink About2009-11-09- ARC MinutesCITY OF PALM SPRINGS ARCHITECTURAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 9, 2009 Council Chamber, City Hall 3200 East Tahquitz Canyon Way, Palm Springs, CA 92262 CALL TO ORDER: Chair Ortega called the meeting to order at 3:00 p.m. ATTENDANCE: Present: Absent: YTD Attendance: Paul Ortega, Chair X 17 Will Kleindienst, Vice Chair X 3 Chris Sahlin X 19 Lance O'Donnell X 20 Michael King X 18 Robert Parker X 15 Patrick McGrew X 4 Ana Maria Escalante X 2 Donald Wexler X 1 (Roll Call record is from January 2009 thru meeting of November 9, 2009) Planning Commission Members Present: Commissioner Cohen APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Approval of Minute's for meeting of October 26, 2009. Vice Chairman Kliendienst noted the following corrections to the minutes of October 26, 2009: Agenda item #2, comment #1.b to read "front driveway entrance should be cleaned and re - stained and resealed". Agenda item #3, comment 3.b to read "consider using stone or -gravel..." Agenda item #5, comment 5.d added "staff to verify that the existing paint colors were approved by the City of Palm Springs" Agenda item #6, add - Vice Chairman Kliendienst declared his conflict of interest on this agenda item, and left the chamber. Agenda item #8, Under Vice Chair's comments, add the words "scheduling conflict". ACTION: M/S/C (Kleindienst/ O'Donnell, 6-0-1 absent/ King) To approve with noted changes, the minutes of October 26, 2009. REVISIONS TO AGENDA: None PUBLIC COMMENTS: Three (3) minute time limit per person on matters within the jurisdiction of the Architectural Advisory Committee. There were no public comments. AGENDA ITEM # 2: Case 3.1278 El Paseo Building - 830 North Palm Canyon Drive A request by El Paseo Holdings on behalf of theirclient Design Within Reach to re -pant the front, side and rear of building with a super graphic design at 830 North Palm Canyon Dr., Zone C-1, Architectural Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes of November 9, 2009 Section 10 (GM) Member Sahlin declared a conflict of interest with this case and recused himself and left the Chamber. Assistant Planner Mlaker gave a brief over view of the project. He stated that the proposed super graphic design will match the adjacent building. The paint colors will be two shades of white, and include one red column at the entrance and the rear trash enclosure will be painted red as well. James Bilger representing the property management company stated that the paint will match the Design Within Reach building next door. He also stated that existing landscaping planter beds will remain with new plants. . Member O'Donnell stated that he liked the design but would support more of a color contrast. Member McGrew opposed the use of the super graphic. Member King stated that he agreed with Mr. McGrew that the graphic will not be consistent on a modern building. Member Parker had no comments. Vice Chairman Kleindienst supports the design, however he believes that there needs to be more contrast between the paint colors. He applauds the boldness of the proposal. Alternate Member Wexler stated that he has not been able to study the project. ACTION: M/S/C (Kliendienst/ O'Donnell, 3-3, 2 abstained/ Wexler, Sahlin) Motions fails AGENDA ITEM # 3: Case SI 09-092 — Del Taco Signage Del Taco, LLC to install three mains signs, one freeway sign, one drive -through menu board and two directional signs at a proposed drive -through restaurant to be located at 6620 North Indian Canyon Drive, Zone H-C, Section 14/T3/R4. (DN) Associate Planner David Newell gave a brief presentation of the proposed signage for a recently approved drive -through restaurant to be located at 6620 North Indian Canyon Drive. He noted that the graphics depicting food on the west elevation are not part of the proposal and that the applicant has agreed to remove this from the elevations. Desmond Wong, Construction Manager for Del Taco, provided additional details of the proposal. AAC members offered the following comments and recommendations: 3.a Remove main wall sign on east elevation (noted as N2 and N6 on plans). 3.b Reduce main wall signs by approximately twenty-five percent. 3.c Remove interior window sign (noted as N10 on plans). ACTION: M/S/C (King/ O'Donnell, 7-0) to recommend approval, subject to comments and recommendations. AGENDA ITEM # 4: Case 6.1024 — PD 306 AMND — Alexander Estates II Jim Cioffi, Architect, to amend a previously approved planned development district (PD 306) by 2 Architectural Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes of November 9, 2009 modifying building square footage and architecture to the proposed twenty-three un-built detached single family residences located within the Palm Springs Country Club at 2800 Whitewater Club Drive known as Alexander Estates II, Zone R-G-A (8), Section 1. (DN) Committee members O'Donnell and Parker declared conflicts of interest with this case and recused themselves and left the Chamber. Associate Planner David Newell gave a brief presentation of the proposed changes to the previously approved Planned Development District. Jim Cioffi, Architect, provided further details of the changes made to the architecture and building floor plans. ACTION: M/S/C (Kleindienst/ King, 7-0, 2 abstained/ O'Donnell, Parker) To approved as submitted. AGENDA ITEM #5: Procedures and Protocol Chairman Ortega introduced the topic of how the AAC meetings are conducted. Mr. Ortega's observations of the meetings are as follows: • Televised meetings in the future would promote transparency and he instructed Staff to pursue this goal. • Roll Call at the beginning of every meeting, plus adopting minutes, and hearing public testimony will help further transparency. • The AAC meetings must start on time. • AAC members should respect the person who is speaking and not talk over that member. Avoid side conversations. Member McGrew had a question on the election of AAC officers. Principal Planner Robertson stated that AAC Chair and Vice Chair were elected to a six month term, however the committee agreed to extend this term to one year for the Chair and Vic Chair. He also stated that the terms for AAC members are now staggered for continuity from year to year. Vice Chairman Kleindienst reminded other members that they must leave the Council Chambers if they are recusing themselves from the proceedings. Member Parker stated that the AAC needs to be able to hold dialog with the applicant in order to maintain productive meetings. Chairman Ortega stated that transparency on the process will allow the AAC to find solutions through collaboration with the applicant. Vice Chairman Kleindienst said that he believes that Staff should include a formal recommendation on the staff memo. After the discussion, Chair Ortega summarized the AAC comments and all agreed to respect each other and their opinions. There being no further comments, the AAC meeting adjourned at 4:40 p.m. 3 Architectural Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes of November 9, 2009 Submitted, Etard obertson Principal Planner