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Home My WebLink About2010-06-21- ARC MinutesCITY OF PALM SPRINGS ARCHITECTURAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE Council Chamber, City Hail 3200 East Tahquitz Canyon Way, Palm Springs, CA 92262 MINUTES OF JUNE 21; 2010 CALL TO ORDER: Chair Ortega called the meeting to order at 3:00 p.m. ATTENDANCE - YTD Present: # Absent: # Total Paul (Ortega, Chair X 11 1 12 William Kieindienst, Vice Chair X 11 1 12 Chris Sahlin X 11 1 12 Lance O'Donnell 9 X 3 12 Michael King X 12 0 12 Robert Parker X 8 4 12 Patrick McGrew X 12 0 12 Donald Wexler 1 N/A Ana Maria Escalante 3 N/A (Roll Call record is from January 2010 thru meeting of June 21, 2010.) There was no Planning Commission Member Present, APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Approval of Minutes for meeting of June 7, 2010. ACTION: M/S/C (Kleindienst / King, 4-0-2, absent Parker, Ortega) To approve the minutes of June 7, 2010. REVISIONS TO AGENDA: None PUBLIC COMMENTS: Three (3) minute time limit per person on matters within the jurisdiction of the Architectural Advisory Committee. There were no public comments. AGENDA ITEM #2: Case SP 07-163 Sign Program— Sunmor Neighborhood Organization Ronald W. Marshall, on behalf of the Sunmor Neighborhood Organization, for a sign program to allow a neighborhood entry sign at the corner of Farrell Drive and Livmore Avenue on the property located 2639 Livmore Avenue, Zone R-1-C, Section 13. (DN) Associate Planner Newell presented the proposed sign program for the Sunmor Neighborhood Organization. He stated that the proposal includes one sign at the southeast corner of Farrell Drive and Livmor Avenue. Architectural Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes of June 21, 2010 Chair Ortega asked for clarification on the approval process for this type of signage. Staff stated that the sign is permitted by a recent code amendment which allows neighborhood entry signs when approved through a sign program process. This process includes AAC review and Planning Commission approval. Barbara Marshall, representing the Sunmor Neighborhood, provided additional background and information related to the proposed entry sign. Member Kina stated that any landscaping installed should be approved by the Engineering Department to ensure it meets the safety requirements in the corner cutback area. He suggested the grout color match the CMU blocks. Vice Chair Kleindienst stated the 'yellow area' of the sign should float or be recessed so that the finish line between block and sign is clean. ACTION: M/S/C (McGrew / King, 6-0-1, absent O'Donnell) To recommend approval to the Planning Commission, subject to four comments: 2.a Staff review reveals 2.10 Set sign on base 2.c Ensure there is a cap on top finish of sign 2.d Yellow area should be recessed or floating AGENDA ITEM #3: Case 5.1228 CUP — Del Taco Landscape Revision Del Taco for a landscape revision to a previously approved Conditional Use Permit for the drive -through restaurant building under construction located at 6620 N. Indian Canyon Drive, Zone H-C, Section 14, (DN) Associate Planner Newell provided background on the proposed project. He stated that the landscape revisions were required by the Planning Commission when the drive -through restaurant was originally approved. Desmond Wong made a brief presentation on the project. Member Parker noted that the common name of the Desert Museum tree needs to be corrected on the plan. ACTION: M/S/C (Parker / Kleindienst, 6-0-1, absent O'Donnell) To recommend approval to staff as submitted, unless there are significant changes made by Caltrans. Should there be significant changes made by Caltrans, the plan should be reviewed by the AAC for another recommendation. AGENDA ITEM #4: Case 3.1820 MAA — The Palms HOA Landscaping The Palms Homeowner's Association for new landscaping totaling approximately 38,100 2 Architectural Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes of June 21, 2010 square feet along Ramon Road for the residential complex located at 3155 Ramon Road, Zone R-2, Section 24, (DN) Associate Planner Newell presented the proposal for new drought -tolerant landscaping along the Ramon Road frontage of the Palm Villas HOA. Ray Lopez, Architect, provided additional information on the new landscaping. Member Parker requested that the applicant ensure the Bermuda grass is adequately removed when new landscaping is installed. He also felt that the design would be better if the applicant exchanged some two foot boulders with additional larger three and four foot boulders. Vice Chair Kleindienst asked the applicant to provide two to three more trees around the bus shelter and accentuate the bus stop area with plantings. Chair Ortega believed the sizes of the Blue Palms were too small and that the applicant should reduce the overall number in exchange for larger sizes. AAC members offered the following comments and recommendations: 4.a Install at least two trees around bus shelter and embellish (add shrubs) landscape. 4.b Reduce number of two foot stones and increase number of three and four foot stones. 4.c Reduce number of Blue Palms and increase tree size, ACTION: M/S/C (Parker / Kleindienst, 6-0-1, absent O'Donnell) To recommend approval to staff with 3 conditions. AGENDA ITEM #5: Case 5.1241 CUP, 6.621 VAR & SI 10-025 — Von's Fueling Station Karl Huy of Travis Companies, Inc., on behalf of Voris for a conditional use permit to construct a fuel center, a variance for a reduced setback for the facility to residential and a sign permit application for the property located at 4701 East Palm Canyon Drive (Rimrock Plaza), Zone W-C-D-N, Section 30. (DN) Associate Planner Newell presented the proposed gasoline service station at the southeast corner of Matthew Drive and East Palm Canyon Drive (SH-111). Mr. Newell provided the background on the project and noted that staff is seeking an action by the AAC because the project is scheduled for Planning Commission review on June 23, 2010. Karl Huy, representing Vons, presented the proposed project. Mr. Huy provided background and noted the changes the project has undergone. Vice Chair Kleindienst expressed disappointment with the new design. He said there is no continuity between the kiosk building and canopy structure. Landscape area on east sign of 3 Architectural Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes of June 21, 2010 property should be increased. Project does not respond to surrounding architecture. "Box- like" design not worthy of Palm Springs architecture. Member Sahiin felt the design could be better and agreed with Vice Chair Kleindienst. Member King stated the project is not a genuine design for Palm Springs. The architect could have made canopy trellis -like. The structures are still too tall. The berming should be taller. Landscape screen wall is needed. Member McGrew noted that circulation is a key element for this project. The building and canopy should be incorporated into one structure. Both structures are too tall and very generic in appearance, ACTION: M/S/C (McGrew / Kleindienst, 5-0-1-1, absent O'Donnell) To recommend denial, based on the following: 5.a Circulation is a problem. Site does not appear large enough 5.b Canopy and Kiosk structure are too tall 5.c Two structures should have integral design 5.d Landscaping needs to be enhanced 5.e Increase landscape area on east planter 5.f The applicant should review the following gas stations in Palm Springs: i. Smoketree 76 on 1776 East Palm Canyon Drive — landscaping H. Shell on 4875 Ramon Road — berming iii. Shell on 2795 North Palm Canyon Drive — Design 5.g `Box and lid' design unacceptable for Palm Springs 5.h Kiosk building has `back of house' design on three sides 5.i Lighting will be too bright for area 5.j Design has no response to surrounding areas (beyond shopping center). CHAIRMAN f COMMITTEE / STAFF COMMENTS: Vice Chair Kleindienst announced that he will be absent from the July 12, 2010 meeting. Principal Planner Robertson stated that it is important for committee members to articulate comments or issues when making motions. This will ensure that Staff captures the true intent of the AAC. Member King asked Staff on the status of Planning Commission members attending the AAC meetings. Member Sahlin mentioned that Palm Springs has appeared in recent television shows. Vice Chair Kleindienst asked about the status of a previously approved signage for Bill's Pizza. Architectural Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes of June 21, 2010 Assistant Planner Mlaker stated that RSPB established a sub -committee to include the Planning Director to work with the applicant to devise an appropriate awning and signage scheme. The Planning Director approved the current signage on site. Chair Ortega stated that AAC member terms will be ending causing several vacancies. The following member terms expire this fall October 2010 • Chairman Ortega — eligible for re -appointment • Alternate Wexler — eligible for re -appointment December 2010 Vice Chair Kleindienst - eligible for re -appointment • Patrick McGrew - eligible for re -appointment • Alternate Escalante - eligible for re -appointment Lance O'Donnell - ineligible for re -appointment • Michael King — ineligible for re -appointment • Chris Sahlin - ineligible for re -appointment Principal Planner Robertson explained the process for the appointment of members to the AAC. Those members willing and eligible for re -appointment to a second term will formally apply once the notice of vacancies are published. The Planning Commission will appoint members to the AAC. Chair Ortega asked if there has been any discussion on extending terms of service for the AAC. Principal Planner Robertson stated that this issue has not been discussed, however there has been an effort to stagger AAC appointments so that member terms do not expire in a short time frame. ADJOURNMENT: There being no further comments, the AAC meeting adjourned at 4:35 p.m. 1!6 Sytt t: Ed and bertson Principal Planner . 5