HomeMy WebLinkAbout2011-08-22- ARC MinutesCITY OF PALM SPRINGS
ARCHITECTURAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Council Chamber, City Hall
3200 East Tahquitz Canyon Way, Palm Springs, CA 92262
MINUTES OF AUGUST 22, 2011
CALL TO ORDER: Chair Kleindienst called the meeting to order at 3:00 p.m.
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William Kleindienst, Chair
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James Harlan, Vice Chair
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William Fauber
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Gary Fredricks
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Susan Secoy Jensen
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Randy Purnel
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Paul Ortega *
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Don Thompson
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Donald Wexler
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(The attendance record is from January 2011 through the meeting of August 22, 2011
* Member Ortega's attendance record begins on August 8, 2011)
Planning Commission Member Present: Commissioner Conrad
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Approval of Minutes for meeting of August 8, 2011 with
corrections to agenda item #6 as noted.
ACTION: M/S/C (Fredricks / Purnel, 6-0-1, absent Jensen) To approve the minutes of
August 8, 2011 with corrections to agenda it #6.
REVISIONS TO AGENDA: None
PUBLIC COMMENTS: Three (3) minute time limit per person on matters within the
jurisdiction of the Architectural Advisory Committee.
There were no public comments.
AGENDA ITEM #2: Case 3.2619 MAA - Starbucks
A proposal by Starbucks to install a 4'.5" tall wall around the outdoor patio and extend the
metal canopy at the Ralph's Shopping Center located at 425 South Sunrise Way, Zone C-1,
Section 14. (GM)
Assistant Planner Mlaker presented the proposal for the enclosure of the existing outdoor
patio with a 4'.5" tall CMU block wall with metal screen cap. He made reference to the
materials presented.
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Elizabeth Hughes representing Starbucks stated that the proposed metal screen on top of
the wall has been successfully used in other locations. She stated that a gate may be need
for exiting purposes.
Jim Cioffi architect of record for the shopping center supports the proposal based upon the
need for increased security of the patio and recommends that the metal railing be painted
gold to match existing conditions.
Member Purnel asked for clarification on the paint color for the metal railing. He also asked
if a gate would be required for exiting purposes. In addition he prefers that any gate have an
architectural relationship with other metal elements located within the shopping center.
Member Fauber asked the applicant for an explanation on the design of the metal railing
being that the design does not relate to any other metal element in the shopping center.
Vice Chair Harlan asked if the existing landscaping will be removed and if the placement of
the new wall along the existing parking lot would require a wheel stop or a redesign.
Chair Kleindienst supports the project and accepts Mr. Cioffi's recommendation to paint the
metal gold.
ACTION: M/S/C (Harlan / Fauber, 2-4-1, against Kleindienst, Purnel, Ortega, Fredricks,
absent Jensen) To recommend approval with the following conditions:
• Applicant to submit an alternative metal design option to staff for review.
• New metal patio exit gate to be approved by staff.
Motion fails
ACTION: M/S/C (Kleindienst / Ortega, 4-2-1, against Harlan, Fauber, absent Jensen) To
recommend approval with the following conditions:
• Metal railing to be painted gold to match existing building.
New metal patio exit gate to utilize design elements currently existing in the shopping
center.
• Staff to review placement of wall adjacent to parking lot.
AGENDA ITEM #3: Case 3.1060 MAA — Sunrise Racquet Club HOA
An application by Sunrise Racquet Club HOA to remove approximately 13,000 sq. ft. of turf
to be replaced with water efficient landscaping in the area between the sidewalk and complex
perimeter wall located at 1200 North Sunrise Way, Zone R-1-13, Section 12. (GM)
Assistant Planner Mlaker presented the plan describing the proposed landscape changes.
Ray Lopez, landscape designer was present to answer questions.
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Member Purnel stated that an irrigation plan is helpful to the AAC in making decisions. In
addition the plan as presented should be revised to include larger groupings of plants and a
possible reduction in the number of proposed plant types.
Member Fredricks noted that the plant spacing may need to be increased especially for the
Tecoma Stans.
ACTION: M/S/C (Purnel / Fredricks, 6-0-1, absent Jensen) To recommend approval.
AGENDA ITEM #4: Case SI-11-007 — Alcazar Hotel
A sign application for Alcazar Hotel to install a building sign; a wall signs; and one
freestanding sign made of aluminum cut-out faces with push-thru acrylic letters (the former
Pepper Tree Inn) located at 645 N. Indian Canyon Drive, Zone R-3, Section 10. (GM)
This item was withdrawn from the agenda at the request of the applicant.
AGENDA ITEM #5: Case SP 09-002 AMND — Rimrock Plaza Sign Program
A proposal by Censource to amend a previously approved sign program for the Rimrock
Plaza Shopping Center to allow signage for the fuel station at the northwest corner of the
shopping center located at 4733 East Palm Canyon Drive, Zone W-C-D-N, Section 30. (DN)
Associate Planner Newell presented the project as outlined in the staff report. He indicated a
new exhibit for the monument sign was submitted which conformed to the size requirements
of the Zoning Code.
Mr. Tim Pitts of Censource, representing Vons explained the proposal and background of
typical Vons gas station signs. He clarified that the Vons gas price sign hanging in the
window on page 4 of the exhibits will be in the interior of the grocery store and not visible
from the exterior of the building.
Vice Chair Harlan asked the applicant about the brightness of the gas price LED numbers.
Member Fauber asked about the location of the "Clearance" signs on the canopy and
requested that the applicant apply the signs directly on the canopy fascia.
Member Fredricks believed the monument sign advertisement ("Less 3¢ per gallon...")
should be white letters on a black background. He also noted his concern with the proposed
gas price monument sign compared to the existing Vons monument sign.
Vice Chair Harlan expressed concern with high output fluorescent lights.
Fauber felt the Vons name on the fueling pumps was excessive and preferred the pump
number only.
Vice Chair Harlan recommended twenty inch high letters and a proportional reduction of the
main sign on the building facing east.
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Chair Kleindienst summarized the concerns of the Committee.
ACTION: M/S/C (Kleindienst / Fredricks 6-0-1, absent Jensen) To restudy the project,
with the following comments:
5.a Reduce size of directional signs to no more than five square feet in size (Page
2 of 5);
5.b Reduce size of "Clearance" signs to no more than five square feet and place on
canopy fascia (Page 2 of 5);
5.c The letters of the main sign on the east elevation of the building shall be
reduced to twenty inches in height and the remainder of the sign shall be
reduced a proportional amount (Page 3 of 5);
5.d Ensure LED for gas price display may be adjusted to lessen intensity (Page 4
of 5);
5.e Monument sign advertisement ("Less 3¢ per gallon...") shall be revised to
include white text and a black background (Page 4 of 5);
5.f The gasoline pumps shall include only the pump numbers (Page 5 of 5);
5.g Direct staff to provide information on gas price display requirements for the
California Weights and Measures.
AGENDA ITEM #6: Case 3.376 MAA — Spencer's Restaurant
A proposal by Cioffi Architect to construct new decorative walls and replace the railings for
Spencer's Restaurant located at 701 West Baristo Road, Zone RGA (8) / R-2, Section 15
(DN)
Associate Planner Newell presented proposed changes to the entrance driveway.
Project Architect, James Cioffi, provided additional details on the proposal.
Member Fredricks asked about the existing bougainvillea adjacent to the wall. Mr. Cioffi
responded that the existing planting would remain.
Chair Kleindienst asked if up -lighting of the bougainvillea and wall is planned and it was
clarified that existing up -lighting will be utilized.
ACTION: M/S/C (Harlan / Fauber 6-0-1, absent Jensen) To recommend approval as
submitted.
AGENDA ITEM #7 Cases 3.3509 MAA / 7.1362 AMM — Barefoot Inn
An application by Jerry Pergolesi for the Barefoot Inn for rehabilitation of a 12-unit hotel on
an approximately 15,755 sq. ft. lot located at 888 North Indian Canyon Drive, Zone R-3,
Section 11. (KL)
The AAC reviewed the subject project and offered the following comments:
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1. Be consistent in the material used for all gates; don't have some wood gates and
some metal gates, make them all metal.
2. If there is to be roof mounted mechanical equipment, don't do little individual "box
enclosures" scattered around on the roof; consolidate them in 1 or 2 enclosures.
3. The proposed desert landscape is appropriate, but you might want to consider
incorporating some areas of grass in the interior courtyard to give it less of a dry
feeling.
4. Consider Lady Slipper, or Candelila in lieu of the equisetum for a vertical looking plant.
The equisetum is very water intensive, invasive, and browns out in the summer and at
the tips when cut and doesn't look good.
5. Give more of an organized design consideration to the landscape at the northwest
corner — make it more architecturally related and dramatic, not just a series of plants
scattered around. Consider placing them in geometries that are complementary to the
building. For example, don't just use 1 Agave Americana; use it in a group of 3 or 5.
6. Lantana is "tired"; and while they don't oppose it, it is terribly overused and there may
be other plants to consider that offer a more unique landscape environment while still
offering some year round color.
7. Use landscape lighting for increased dramatic effect in the landscaping along the
street frontages and especially at the northwest corner.
8. Consider a brush finished aluminum in a gage thick enough that it does not `oil can" or
"pucker" along the fascia
9. Consider using a dark grey grout in the stack bond concrete block wall at the
perimeter of the property to further accentuate the joints in that wall.
ACTION: M/S/C (Kleindienst / Fredricks, 6-0-1, absent Jensen) To recommend approval,
subject to the AAC comments.
CHAIRMAN / COMMITTEE / STAFF COMMENTS:
Principal Planner Robertson reminded the AAC that during the review of an amendment to a
previously approved plan, the original case file can be viewed upon request. Staff is not
always able to include the previous plans due to email size constraints. AAC members can
call the Planning Department to make arrangements to view the file if necessary.
Member Fredricks thanked Staff for including a conclusion and recommendation for direction
in Staff memos.
ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further comments, the AAC meeting adjourned at 4:55 p.m.
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