HomeMy WebLinkAbout2014-06-09- ARC MinutesCity of Palm Springs
ARCHITECTURAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Council Chamber, 3200 East Tahquitz Canyon Way, Palm Springs, California 92262
Minutes of June 9, 2014
CALL TO ORDER: Chair Secoy-Jensen called the meeting to order at 3:00 pm.
ROLL CALL:
Committee Members Present: Fredricks, Hirschbein, Purnel, Song, Vice -
Chair Fauber and Chair Secoy-Jensen
Committee Member Excused: Cassady
Planning Commissioner Present: Commissioner Lowe
Also Present: Director Wheeler and Assistant Planner Mlaker
REPORT OF THE POSTING OF AGENDA: The agenda was available for public
access by 8:00 pm on June 4, 2014.
ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA: The agenda was accepted, as presented.
PUBLIC COMMENTS: None
CONSENT CALENDAR:
1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: MAY 27, 2014
M/S/C (Song/Secoy-Jensen, 5-0-1-1 abstain Hirschbein, absent Cassady) Approve
minutes as presented.
NEW BUSINESS:
2. CHRISTOPHER MEYERS FOR A MAJOR ARCHITECTURAL
APPLICATION FOR A PARTIAL REMODEL AND 792-SQUARE FOOT
MASTER BEDROOM ADDITION; AND AN ADMINISTRATIVE MINOR
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MODIFICATION REQUESTING A SIDE -FRONT YARD SETBACK AND
INCREASE IN BUILDING HEIGHT ON A HILLSIDE LOT LOCATED AT 2353
WEST CANTINA WAY, ZONE R-1-A (CASE NOS. 3.3307 MAA & 7.1417).
(GM)
Staff distributed correspondence from French & Bordhus.
BOARD MEMBER GARY FREDRICKS excused himself from the dais due to a
conflict of interest.
LANCE O'DONNELL, APPLICANT, stated that the house to the north & south
have a second story. When he looked at it they saw how to turn carport into
garage and then pushed it back off of the edge of the garage and back onto the
hillside. They did outreach to the neighbors. He submitted an additional
landscaping plan to give privacy to the downhill east property backyard patio with
an additional tree.
VICE -CHAIR FAUBER had a concern as to where the tree would be placed
LANCE O'DONNELL said the tree would go west of bougainvillea hedge.
CHRIS MEYERS, OWNER, stated that the house was recently sold. The
Frenches had discussed with him. Their concern was privacy and construction
concerns. They bought this house as a second home and now want it as a
primary residence.
ANNA DELUCA, NEIGHBOR TO THIS PROPERTY, felt that the improvements
are positive.
VICE -CHAIR FAUBER asked what has recently changed.
ASSISTANT PLANNER MLAKER stated the slope analyses were done, as
shown.
VICE -CHAIR FAUBER said that with the addition of the tree it's a well -conceived
project.
BOARD MEMBER PURNEL, was also in favor, with an appropriate size of tree.
CHAIR SECOY-JENSEN said it is a sensitive addition within site constraints.
M/S/C (Fauber/Secoy-Jensen, 5-0-1-1 abstained/Fredricks, absent/Cassady)
Approve with the following conditions:
1. Minimize 36" box tree
2. Subject to additional landscape plan submitted 6-9-14
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3. THE CHARLES COMPANY REQUESTING MINOR AMENDMENT TO THE
PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SIGN PROGRAM FOR A NEW MONUMENT SIGN
AT THE SPRINGS SHOPPING CENTER LOCATED AT 5200 EAST RAMON
ROAD (CASE 07-083 AMND). (GM)
BOARD MEMBER HIRSCHBEIN questioned the A-D signs and existing.
JONATHAN DOTY WITH CHARLES COMPANY, APPLICANTS, requested to
have Five Guys visible on Ramon. They want a new sign for food court tenants
which are less than 10,000 square feet.
BOARD MEMBER SONG said she is supportive of businesses, but asked if
themonument sign should be the same size as other monument sign.
CHAIR SECOY-JENSEN felt smaller signs for smaller tenants work.
VICE -CHAIR FAUBER stated his support for extra signs but questioned them
because there are already four signs out there. He said he would be more in
favor of enlarging existing signs not adding more.
BOARD MEMBER HIRSCHBEIN felt as though this one additional sign will not
over sign this enormous property. He was inclined to approve as submitted.
BOARD MEMBER FREDERICKS supported this sign.
BOARD MEMBER PURNEL said the proposed sign and its size is ok.
M/S/C (Secoy-Jensen/Hirschbein, 5-1-1, Fauber, absent Cassady) Approve with
condition to relocate the tree blocking the sign.
4. PALM SPRINGS COUNTRY CLUB, LLC, FOR ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW OF
PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF
APPROXIMATELY 125-ACRES OF PREVIOUSLY DISTURBED VACANT
LAND NORTH OF VERONA ROAD, EAST OF FARRELL DRIVE, NORTH OF
JOYCE DRIVE, EAST OF SUNRISE WAY AND SOUTHWEST OF THE
WHITEWATER RIVER WASH, SECTION 36 / TOWNSHIP 3 / RANGE 4, AND
SECTION 1 / TOWNSHIP 4 / RANGE 4 (CASE NOS. 5.1327 PD-366 AND TTM
36691). (DN)
ASSOCIATE PLANNER NEWELL summarized staff report.
VICE -CHAIR FAUBER asked if hip roofs are only on the 8000 square feet lots on
the outer ring.
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BOARD MEMBER SONG, asked for comparable densities and confirmed two
stories would not be allowed.
STAFF confirmed all single -story.
CHAIR SECOY-JENSEN asked about gating.
ASSOCIATE PLANNER NEWELL showed gating and emergency access.
CHAIR SECOY-JENSEN asked about the park and its access.
ASSOCIATE PLANNER NEWELL stated that it will be a public park.
BOARD MEMBER FREDRICKS asked if there would be access to the country
club from the southwest corner.
ASSOCIATE PLANNER NEWELL stated only emergency access would be
available.
MARVIN ROOS, APPLICANT, felt that the golf course is not adequate for
today's standards, especially the width of the fairways. Previous owners
eliminated the golf course. The northern development is age restricted, while the
southern development is open market.
BOARD MEMBER HIRSCHBEIN asked if there was a path from the mobile
home park to the park.
VICE -CHAIR FAUBER asked what is the optional casita.
KEN TOBLESKY, APPLICANT, said in terms of the casita option there is one
per product type.
VICE -CHAIR FAUBER asked about the roofs on the casita.
KEN TOBLESKY, APPLICANT, responded by saying the hip roofs will be metal;
sloped roofs on both the west and south; large overhangs for passive solar;
smaller windows for shading; and made of stucco and stone.
BOARD MEMBER SONG had a question regarding setbacks.
KEN TOBLESKY, APPLICANT, expressed "Radburn" units will have two 5'
setbacks.
BOARD MEMBER SONG asked what the highest height being approved would
be.
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APPLICANT replied 19'.
BOB BOMBARDIER, LANDSCAPE APPLICANT, explained in some detail
aspect of the landscaping for the Palm Springs Country Club project. Some
palm trees will be moved based on their health. One thousand tamarisk trees
will be proposed to be removed. Ornamentals, agaves and succulents will be
part of the plan. He explained there are some grass areas and a 50' greenbelt
are to be maintained by the Homeowners Association.
BOARD MEMBER SONG asked if there would be a walkable entry way, and how
would it be visible from street A?
BOB BOMBARDIER, APPLICANT, replied by stating the street gated entry will
have maps directing all visitors and residents.
FRED FABRICANT, a neighbor, asked if zoning has been changed. Will there be
public parking for the park? And how will you keep people not using the park or
golf course out of the development? He had questions regarding paths
surrounding the condos, property lines, sidewalks being constructed around
houses or across the road, condo owners having walls, will metal roofs be
painted and concern about the 50' greenbelt being included in HOA.
JOHN DOSA, neighbor, said he does not oppose change. Had concern about
noise and aesthetics, saying "I would hope developers will give us double pane
windows'. He felt the walls should not be dark rock.
MARY PATRELLI, neighbor on Whitewater Drive, had concern regarding the
road built near property lines, 8-10 years of noisy construction, density along
property lines and she wanted a block wall at least 6' tall with landscaping at the
perimeter.
HEDY GARDNER, neighbor who owns a townhouse, expressed concerned with
the traffic, pollution and noise. They have a renter in their townhouse and she
does not want houses built. She said the renter has been there for 3 years and
will leave if the project moves forward.
RENEE SAUNDERS, owner on Verona Road, was concerned with the traffic,
adjacent houses and eliminating the open space.
IRV BROWNSTEIN, lives on Whitewater Drive, and also preferred to keep open
space.
JILL READER, neighbor on Verona Road, worried about mobile home park
residents needing to cut through her yard that she has fenced and planted. She
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would like trees on southwest entrance to remain and felt the height of the wall in
relation to the houses is too short. Recommends the new development should
have desert landscaping.
MIHALY LENART, neighbor, believed a wall of 6' tall or a fence is definitely
needed. He had concern about dust and the tamarisk trees breaking water lines
and becoming a fire hazard.
MARVIN ROOS, APPLICANT, explained that the walls, fences, and perimeter
landscaping are all on the table being discussed. He said where there has been
encroachment they are working on a solution. In regards to the 50' greenbelt,
MR. ROOS concluded that it will be in the new development.
CHAIR SECOY-JENSEN requested verification that perimeter homes have rear
setbacks of 15.'
BOARD MEMBER PURNEL asked if there is a phasing plan at this time.
MARVIN ROOS stated that it depends on infrastructure. The roads would go
first. All utilities would flow to the east. The perimeter would be tied down early
and they propose a minimum of 20' parkway adjacent to properties.
BOARD MEMBER PURNEL asked about lot lines.
MARVIN ROOS said that is an easy concession and fix.
CHAIR SECOY-JENSEN specified that the planning commission would decide
the land use issue. She wants to see streetscape and suggested mixing roof
types within the three product areas -paired, Radburn & Estate.
VICE -CHAIR FAUBER agreed with mixing roof types. He has concerns
regarding the limited access points. Thought it was good to be able to walk into
the property, but felt the wall and planting issues are important to look at.
Connectivity is important, and had concern with parking on 33' wide street.
BOARD MEMBER SONG felt the landscape plans were incomplete. She
believed that the Radburn sides to the street are important. Needs rendering
and street scape, and felt a landscape buffer from Radburn to condos would be
necessary.
CHAIR SECOY-JENSEN believed guest parking and shade information is
needed.
BOARD MEMBER HIRSCHBEIN agreed with Board Member Song's concern
regarding a buffer from Radburn to condos, as well as the public park needing to
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be closer to mobile home park. He stated the overall density visually seems
high, especially in the northern perimeter where a buffer is needed. Radburn
blocks need to be perpendicular to Paseo.
BOARD MEMBER PURNEL agreed with Board Member Song regarding the
buffers. He also felt on the North side it is too dense especially at the perimeter.
The landscape issue needs to be continued. There needs to be greater open
space to existing homes in the southern section parkway along the street.
BOARD MEMBER FREDRICKS also agreed with Board Member Song's concern
regarding construction noise. He stated that the wall issue needs to be resolved
so it can be built and the landscaping can be done right away. He believed the
buffer to homes on Farrell and Verona and also at mobile home park is crucial.
In terms of traffic he stated an entrance on Whitewater could mitigate this issue.
M/S/C (Fauber/Fredricks 6-0-1 absent Cassady) to recommend approval with
conditions:
1. Return with landscape plan.
2. Elevation for Radburn along streets adjacent to condo to return.
3. Buffers/wall/open fencing along perimeter to return.
4. Paired, Radburn and Estate to have group elevations in color
elevation with different roofing, materials and landscaping.
5. Guest parking plan needed.
6. Potential paseo within Radburn to link open space needed.
7. Roof types to be mixed and return.
8. Buffers to be increased to condos and mobile home park.
COMMITTEE MEMBER COMMENTS: None.
STAFF MEMBER COMMENTS: Director Wheeler reminded the Committee about the
June 17th tour and the Joint Meeting with the Planning Commission on Wednesday at
11:30 AM.
ADJOURNMENT: The Architectural Advisory Committee adjourned at 5:37 pm to the
next regular meeting at 3:00 pm on June 23, 2014, Council Chamber, City Hall, 3200
East Tahquitz Canyon Way, Palm Springs.
M. Ma)rgo Wheeler, FAICP
Director of Planning Services
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