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Home My WebLink About2014-04-07- ARC MinutesCity of Palm Springs ARCHITECTURAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE Council Chamber, 3200 East Tahquitz Canyon Way, Palm Springs, California 92262 Minutes of April 7, 2014 CALL TO ORDER: Chair Secoy-Jensen called the meeting to order at 3:00 pm. ROLL CALL: Committee Members Present: Cassady, Fredricks, Hirschbein, Purnel, Song, Vice - Chair Fauber and Chair Secoy-Jensen Committee Members Absent: None Planning Commissioner Present: None Also Present: Director Wheeler and Assistant Planner Mlaker REPORT OF THE POSTING OF AGENDA: Agenda is available for public access at the City Hall bulletin board (west side of Council Chamber) and the Planning Department counter by 6:00 pm on April 2, 2014. ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA: Continue Item #8 to April 21, 2014. PUBLIC COMMENTS: None. CONSENT CALENDAR: 1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: MARCH 24, 2014 M/S/C (Fauber/Secoy-Jensen, 6-0-1 Song) Approve the Architectural Advisory Committee Minutes of March 24, 2014, as amended (changes to page 2 and 5). UNFINISHED BUSINESS: 2. BEAZER HOMES FOR ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW OF FINAL Architectural Advisory Committee Minutes April 7, 2014 DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR 72 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITHIN PLANNING AREAS 2A & 2B OF PD-231 (ESCENA) LOCATED AT 1000 NORTH GENE AUTRY TRAIL, ZONE W/ M-1-P / PD-231 (CASE 5.0666 PD- 231 FINAL PD). (DN) KELLIE COLE, Beazer Homes, commented that some stonework wrapped in the rear will be removed. COMMITTEE MEMBER CASSADY said he appreciates the changes and questioned if there will be a provision for the pools. ASSISTANT PLANNER MLAKER responded that it is shown on the plan. CHAIR SECOY-JENSEN thanked the applicant for listening. COMMITTEE MEMBER FAUBER complimented the project team. He questioned the landscape size and spacing changes. HANS ANDERLE, APPLICANT, responded that too much going on so some landscape larger and changed spacing. VICE -CHAIR FAUBER commented that in two weeks it was redesigned and it's greatly appreciated. He questioned the HVAC. HANS ANDERLE, APPLICANT, responded that the pad location inside or rear, will be screened with wall or landscaping and will not be on the roof. CHAIR SECOY-JENSEN said that the post and beams at 8' are better. HANS ANDERLE, APPLICANT, said he will move to replicate the post and beam. CHAIR SECOY-JENSEN suggested removing every other one. COMMITTEE MEMBER SONG asked about the roof slope. HANS ANDERLE, APPLICANT, responded 3-12. COMMITTEE MEMBER SONG said that 2-12 are more in keeping with the style. COMMITTEE MEMBER SONG questioned plan 3 and asked why the veneer was removed. HANS ANDERLE, APPLICANT, said that the veneer was removed and replaced with stucco with difference accent color. p Architectural Advisory Committee Minutes April 7, 2014 COMMITTEE MEMBER HIRSCHBEIN said he disagrees that the rear veneers are too complicated in Plan 3. COMMITTEE MEMBER FREDRICKS would like plant sizes to be upgraded to: 5 - 15 gallon, 15 gal. - 24", 24" - 36". M/S/C (Vice -Chair Fauber/Cassady, 7-0) To recommend approval to the Planning Commission with conditions: • Consider removing every other beam to replicate post & beam construction • Rear elevation in Plan 3 to be single slope, not gable • 2-12 or 2 1/2-12 not 3-12 slope for roof • Rear veneer element to match submitted design package Amended by Committee Member Purnel to 1 gal to 5. Approved by Motion Maker and Second. NEW BUSINESS: 3. EL PASEO HOLDINGS FOR AN AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING SIGN PROGRAM AT THE EL PASEO BUILDING, A CLASS 1 HISTORIC SITE TO INCUDE ONE DOUBLE SIDED BLADE SIGN EQUALING 9.33-SQUARE FEET AND ONE 1.8-SQUARE FOOT WALL PEDESTRIAN SIGN LOCATED AT 800 NORTH PALM CANYON DRIVE (CASE SP 09-001 AMND). (GM) JOHN CROSS, Best Signs (representing the applicant), presented the proposed sign program. COMMITTEE MEMBER HIRSCHBEIN questioned the wall placement shown on page 5 of the report. JOHN CROSS said that copy can be justified to the right or reduced in scale. COMMITTEE MEMBER PURNEL suggested it centered on top and bottom. CHAIR SECOY-JENSEN questioned the blade sign noting that it will be third one and is becoming cluttered. VICE -CHAIR FAUBER commented that blade sign is too large and is beginning to block grill work. COMMITTEE MEMBER HIRSCHBEIN said this building is a jewel and does not want to tj Architectural Advisory Committee Minutes April 7, 2014 see the quality of building lost. CHAIR SECOY-JENSEN said she has a conflict with the blade sign as it is presented. She recommended reduction in size and to simplify bracket. COMMITTEE MEMBER FREDRICKS said he has a problem with the color red and the size and location of sign are a problem. COMMITTEE MEMBER SONG commented that everything that is added - fonts, names - adds to clutter. The size, design and brackets are a problem. M/S/C (Secoy-Jensen/Fredricks, 7-0) Table. 4. PINNACLE VIEW, LLC, FOR ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW OF THE LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR COMMON AREAS OF THE DESERT PALISADES SPECIFIC PLAN (DPSP) ON A ROUGHLY 117-ACRE PARCEL LOCATED AT THE WESTERN TERMINUS OF RACQUET CLUB ROAD; IN PLANNING AREA 4 OF THE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA SPECIFIC PLAN (ESA-SP ZONE) (CASE 5.1154 SP/CZ). (KL) VICE -CHAIR FAUBER asked if this is preliminary or final plan. ASSISTANT PLANNER MLAKER responded that it is the final plan. COMMITTEE MEMBER HIRSCHBEIN asked if the trails are open to the public. ASSISTANT PLANNER MLAKER responded that two pedestrian trails will be open to the public. CHAIR SECOY-JENSEN asked if these are custom home sites. ASSISTANT PLANNER MLAKER responded yes. COMMITTEE MEMBER SONG asked about bridges ROB PARKER, RGA & ASSOCIATES, thanked Ken Lyon for review of the project. He explained that MSA staked all streets to ensure not disturbing natural conditions as much as possible. The only irrigation is along Tramway Road and at the water towers. There are no bridges now. COMMITTEE MEMBER PURNEL asked about the location of the irrigation and emergency gates. ROB PARKER, APPLICANT, responded that the gates are the same as the entry gates 4 Architectural Advisory Committee Minutes April 7, 2014 with simplification. COMMITTEE MEMBER PURNEL asked about the boulder detail. RON GREGORY, APPLICANT, said the culverts drop off and there will be 8' decomposed granite on both sides. Cable rail will be on both sides with boulders and down lighting. COMMITTTEE MEMBER FREDRICKS questioned the size of trees and if any are low - branching. RON GREGORY, APPLICANT, responded that all are low -branching, native species. COMMITTEE MEMBER PURNEL noted that some boulders have been moved. Years ago on Tramway Road boulders were given a patina. RON GREGORY, APPLICANT, responded that anything without native patina will have to be treated. COMMITTEE MEMBER PURNEL asked questions regarding the pavers. RON GREGORY, APPLICANT, responded they will be "Toscano Brown" and no reds or greys will be included. M/S/C (Fredricks/Fauber, 7-0) Approve as submitted. 5. MARIO'S ITALIAN CAFE SEEKING ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL FOR RETRACTABLE AWNINGS AND MATCHING VALANCES AT 425 SOUTH SUNRISE WAY, (CASE 3.2619 MAA). (KL) Staff provided the presentation on the proposed project. MARIO DEL GUIDIC, APPLICANT, says his restaurant can't be seen going by at 50 mph. The landlord said they would be on the monument sign but they are not. VICE -CHAIR FAUBER said the illuminated signs are quite visible and the umbrellas work well. MARIO DEL GUIDIC, APPLICANT, responded that the umbrella does not cover enough area. COMMITTEE MEMBER HIRSCHBEIN said he thinks the awnings are ok. COMMITTEE MEMBER FREDRICKS said he does not have a problem seeing the sign 5 Architectural Advisory Committee Minutes April 7, 2014 and needs a blade sign from the parking lot. Umbrellas give it a caf6 feel. COMMITTEE MEMBER SONG said the Mario sign facing east is enough. She proposed to remove the valances on the east side. M/S/C (Secoy-Jensen/Fauber, 5-2 Hirschbein/Song) To remove awnings with valances and signage. 6. JPM BUILDING, LLC, REQUESTING EXTERIOR ELEVATION ALTERATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH A FINANCIAL RETIAL BANK TO INCLUDE ATM, PARKING LOT LIGHTING, AND NEW DECRATIVE LIGHTS AT THE 500 BUILDING AT 500 SOUTH PALM CANYON DRIVE (CASE 3.2312 MAA). (GM) VICE -CHAIR FAUBER asked questions regarding the glass changes to accommodate the ATM. COMMITTEE MEMBER HIRSCHBEIN spoke about the wing wall and said that it is important not to change the post. BOB MC MICHAEL, representing the APPLICANT, said the wall that creates new niche will align with existing post and finish will remain the same. COMMITTEE MEMBER HIRSCHBEIN indicated that Sheet AS1.00 is missing and maybe a subcommittee is needed. The wall heights are not specified. BOB MC MICHAEL, APPLICANT, said yes they will lower the light towers to 10' from 13. CHAIR SECOY-JENSEN asked why not replacing glass instead of adding stucco. VICE -CHAIR FAUBER said a curb is need at the ramp. BOB MC MICHAEL, APPLICANT, agreed. RALPH RAYA, APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE, presented the new packet regarding lighting. CHAIR SECOY-JENSEN asked if there are four parking lot fixtures. RALPH RAYA responded yes. COMMITTEE MEMBER HIRSCHBEIN noted that the bubble detail is lacking. CHAIR SECOY-JENSEN said she would rather have glass behind the ATM rather than 6 Architectural Advisory Committee Minutes April 7, 2014 stucco. M/S/C (Secoy-Jensen/Purnel, 7-0) Approve with conditions: • Fagade, entire niche area and return wall be glass • Lighting bollards 10' not 13' • Detail of area on sheet AS1.00 to have dimensions and sample of glass to subcommittee. Committee Member Purnel requested: • Wall heights to match existing • If return wall is different, it needs to be added to information to subcommittee. AMENDMENT ACCEPTED. Subcommittee members consist of: Song, Fauber and Hirschbein 7. LEE CHANDRASENA REQUESTING ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL FOR EXTERIOR SIGNAGE FOR A FUTURE MOTORCYCLE DEALERSHIP LOCATED WITHIN AN EXISTING BUILDING AT 6550 NORTH INDIAN CANYON DRIVE, ZONE HC (CASE SIGN VARIANCE 8.258). (DN) SIGN-A-RAMA representatives presented the proposed project. LEE CHANDRASENA, APPLICANT, spoke about the details of the project. VICE -CHAIR FAUBER discussed options of signage on site plan. COMMITTEE MEMBER HIRSCHBEIN said he likes the walls but signs need to be more purposefully located. Indian Avenue is covered. LEE CHANDRASENA, APPLICANT, agreed. COMMITTEE MEMBER FREDRICKS said sign walls add a lot to the building. East & North sides are unimportant; he favors of allowing west and south, taking monument away. COMMITTEE MEMBER PURNEL agrees. Larger signs at key locations and eliminate the north and east. VICE -CHAIR FAUBER said he likes the walls but needs appropriate signage. CHAIR SECOY-JENSEN suggested keeping it big on the west and south. 7 Architectural Advisory Committee Minutes April 7, 2014 COMMITTEE MEMBER SONG asked if they are willing to remove KTM sign from the west side. The monument is ok to keep it. M/S/C (Hirschbein/Fredricks, 6-1 Secoy-Jensen) Approve with conditions: • Remove monument sign • Remove East and North signs 8. BRANDENBERG OASIS, LLC, FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE SIGN PROGRAM FOR THE OASIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING, A CLASS 1 HISTORIC SITE AT 101-121 SOUTH PALM CANYON DRIVE, ZONE CBD, (CASE 10-001 SP AMND). (GM). This item was continued to April 21, 2014. COMMITTEE MEMBER COMMENTS: STAFF MEMBER COMMENTS: ADJOURNMENT: The Architectural Advisory Committee adjourned at 6:00 pm to the next regular meeting at 3:00 pm on April 21, 2014, Council Chamber, City Hall, 3200 East Tahquitz Canyon Way, Palm Springs. fA. argo Wheeler, AICP Director of Planning Services 0