HomeMy WebLinkAbout2018-04-02- ARC MinutesCity of Palm Springs
ARCHITECTURAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Council Chamber, 3200 East Tahquitz Canyon Way, Palm Springs, California 92262
Minutes of April 2, 2018
CALL TO ORDER: Chair Song called the meeting to order at 3:00 pm
ROLL CALL:
Committee Members Present: Doczi, Jakway, McCoy, Rotman, Poehlein, Vice Chair
Cassady, Chair Song
Committee Members Excused: Lockyer
Planning Commissioner Present: Dennis Woods
Staff Present: Planning Director Fagg, Assistant Planner Kikuchi,
Associate Planner Mlaker, Associate Planner Newell
REPORT OF THE POSTING OF AGENDA: The Agenda was available for public
access at the City Hall bulletin board (west side of Council Chamber) and the Planning
Department counter by 12:00 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2018.
ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA:
Rotman, seconded by Jakway to accept the agenda as presented.
AYES: Doczi, Jakway, McCoy, Rotman, Poehlein, Cassady, Song
ABSENT: Lockyer
PUBLIC COMMENTS: None.
CONSENT CALENDAR:
1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: MARCH 5, 2018
Member Jakway, seconded by Rotman to approve minutes as amended.
AYES: Doczi, Jakway, Rotman, Song
ABSENT: Lockyer
ABSTAIN: McCoy, Cassady, Poehlein
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UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
2. SUNSHINE LANDSCAPE, ON BEHALF OF THE PALM SPRINGS WOMEN'S
CLUB, FOR MINOR ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW APPROVAL TO ALTER AN
8,740-SQUARE-FOOT LANDSCAPE LOCATED AT 314 SOUTH CAHUILLA
ROAD, ZONE R-3 (CASE NO. 3.3237). (NK)
Assistant Planner Kikuchi presented the proposed landscape alterations as outlined in
the staff memorandum.
RICHARD CALQUHOUN, Sunshine Landscape, was available for questions from the
Committee.
Member McCoy questioned removal of the darker decomposed granite that delineated
walkway and revisions to the plant placement in the new plan.
Member Rotman questioned why there weren't more significant changes to the plan
since the last time it came to the AAC. (The applicant said they tried to respond to the
recommendations of the Committee.)
Chair Song questioned if additional landscape would be added at the south front of the
property and verified if they understood the conditions proposed by staff.
Member Rotman said he is disappointed in the revisions and thinks what's lacking is the
overall landscape design. They originally commented that it looked very random with
no depth and feels very flat, He said it's a very significant building that should have a
landscape plan that reflects that; he also noted that one of the other comments was
that it does not meet the 50% plant coverage.
Member McCoy agrees with the 50% plant coverage comment; noting that this is a
historic building and landscape should reflect it's prominence. He suggested keeping
the dual color decomposed granite with the bender board and pulling the palm tree
back from the corner.
Member Doczi agreed with staffs comments, the layout/composition does not
compliment the architecture of the building. He cannot support the landscape as
proposed.
Member Jakway said the design looks scattered and does not have groupings. He
stated that the rocks should be in larger groupings and supports the darker color
decomposed granite and bender board, fewer plant varieties and more quantities.
Chair Song said she is having difficulty working with the design as installed instead of
having a plan developed by a landscape architect. Ms. Song commented that the
Women's Club should be able to have landscape designer or architect to comment on
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plan.
Doczi, seconded by Jakway to approve subject to conditions and Subcommittee
(McCoy and Doczi) to work with Planning Staff to implement recommendations of AAC
(as identified in notes).
AYES: Doczi, Jakway, McCoy, Rotman, Poehlein, Cassady, Song
ABSENT: Lockyer
NEW BUSINESS:
3. JOHNNY WAS RETAILER ON BEHALF OF DTPS B-2, LLC FOR MINOR
ARCHITECTURAL APPLICATION TO PAINT A DECORATIVE GRAPHIC ON
THE STOREFRONT STUCCO SURROUND LOCATED AT 175 NORTH PALM
CANYON DRIVE, SUITE 115, ZONE CBD (CASE 3.3606 MAA). (DN)
Member Doczi recused himself due to a business related conflict of interest and would
not be participating in the discussion or vote on this project. He left the Council
Chamber at 3:44 pm.
Associate Planner Newell presented the proposed revised storefront design for the
existing retailer as outlined in the staff memorandum.
EMILY YANG, representing David Magid Design Studio, provided details on the
decorative graphic and was available for questions from the Committee.
Chair Song verified the locations of graphics. (The applicant verified it could continue
into the store, but the merchandise is already in place.)
Member Rotman clarified how deep the graphic will go into the store.
Vice Chair Cassady verified that the color of the stucco will not be changed. (no) He
clarified if the intensity of the graphic could be reduced. (yes)
Member Poehlein thinks it's appropriate for the store brand but is concerned about
consistency with other storefronts.
Member Jakway thinks the white surrounds are very strong architectural elements; and
noted concern with setting precedence. He commented the graphic could possibly go
on transom windows.
Member McCoy noted concern with changing the design of the building. He supports
the use of graphic on transom windows or could support on returns but not on the face
or perimeter.
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Member Rotman agreed with the other comments and noted concern with setting a
precedent which compromises the consistency of the building.
Vice Chair Cassady concurs with the other comments. He likes the graphic and could
support it on the return and continuing into the store or on a transom window.
Chair Song supports the graphic continuing into the store.
McCoy, seconded by Cassady to approve subject to:
• Reject the design as proposed;
• Allow the graphic on the transom windows or on the interior returns extending
into the store.
AYES:
Jakway, McCoy, Rotman, Poehlein, Cassady, Song
ABSENT:
Lockyer
ABSTAIN:
Doczi
Member Doczi re-entered the Council Chamber at 4:00 pm
4. VIP MOTORCARS REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING SIGN
DISTRICT TO ADD ONE 33-SQUARE FOOT SIGN AT THE MERCEDES-BENZ
DEALERSHIP LOCATED AT 4095 EAST PALM CANYON DRIVE, ZONE C-2
(CASE 18-001 SD); AND
Associate Planner Mlaker presented the proposed sign district amendment for
Mercedes-Benz and Porsche dealership as outlined in the staff memorandum.
Member Jakway verified the existing square footage on the signage.
Member Rotman clarified the existing signage.
Vice Chair Cassady questioned if there are other sign districts and if there are
exceptions from the sign ordinance.
JERRY JOHNSON, VIP Motor Cars LTD, (applicant), provided background information
and requested consideration of the proposed sign.
Member Rotman questioned the proportions of the AMG logo and design
Member Jakway commented that the building looks cluttered and suggested the scale
be increased to match the size of the "Mercedes' sign.
Chair Song questioned the size and dimensions of the "Mercedes" sign.
Vice Chair Cassady commented on the relationship of the signs to the columns on
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which they are attached.
Member Rotman verified the difference in height of the two (2) signs (AMG & Mercedes
Benz sign). He questioned if the sign box could be increase so that the two signs are
the same height.
Cassady, seconded by McCoy to approve as submitted.
AYES: Doczi, McCoy, Poehlein, Cassady, Song
NOES: Jakway, Rotman
ABSENT: Lockyer
INDIGO AUTO GROUP REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING
SIGN DISTRICT TO ADD FIVE (5) SIGNS TO A PROPOSED NEW AUTO
DEALERSHIP BUILDING LOCATED AT 3737 EAST PALM CANYON DRIVE,
ZONE C-2 (CASE 18-002 SD). (GM)
CHRIS HECTOR, Indigo Auto Group, representing Porsche Dealership, provided
details and was available for questions from the Committee.
Member Rotman questioned the details of the "service" sign; and asked if the
conditions of approval imposed by the Planning Commission would impact the location
of signs. (pedestrian sidewalk)
Member Jakway clarified the sign mounted on the building.
Member Rotman questioned details of the sign mounted building.
Member McCoy verified the LED illumination (internal), service sign is not illuminated.
Member Jakway thinks it's a very sophisticated sign program and likes it. He
questioned the placement of the sign and alignment with the vertical panels.
Member Doczi concurred with Member Jakway and thinks the wall sign is an integral
part of the architecture.
Jakway, seconded by Doczi to approve subject to:
• Investigate aligning wall sign with vertical elements of building.
AYES: Doczi, Jakway, McCoy, Rotman, Poehlein, Cassady, Song
ABSENT: Lockyer
5. AMENDMENT OF THE ARCHITECTURAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE RULES
OF PROCEDURE. (FF)
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Planning Director Fagg provided details on the amendment to the AAC's Rules of
Procedure.
Member Jakway commented on corrections to page 6 and 8.
Member Rotman noted a correction on page 7.
Cassady, seconded by Rotman to approve with changes.
AYES: Doczi, Jakway, McCoy, Rotman, Poehlein, Cassady, Song
ABSENT: Lockyer
COMMITTEE MEMBER COMMENTS: None.
STAFF MEMBER COMMENTS:
• Update on Downtown Park Subcommittee
ADJOURNMENT: The Architectural Advisory Committee adjourned at 4:40 pm to the
next regular meeting at 3:00 pm on Monday, April 16, 2018, Council Chamber, City
Hall, 3200 East Tahquitz Canyon Way, Palm Springs.
Flinn Fagg, AICP
Director of Planning Services
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