HomeMy WebLinkAbout2015-09-08- HSPB MinutesHISTORIC SITE PRESERVATION BOARD
CITY OF PALM SPRINGS, CALIFORNIA
Large Conference Room, 3200 East Tahquitz Canyon Way, Palm Springs, California 92262
www.palmspringsca.gov
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER: The Chair called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m.
ROLL CALL: Chair Gary Johns, Vice-Chair Roxann Ploss, Members Dick Burkett, Todd
Hays, Bill La Voie, Linda Dixon, James Williamson
ABSENT: None
ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA: M/S/C (Dixon/Hays, 7-0) to accept the agenda with item
6a moved forward.
PUBLIC COMMENT:
FRANK TYSEN, spoke regarding concern about adverse impacts on the City caused by new
development including the Aberdeen project and the Town & Country Center.
DONNA CHABAN, spoke in support of Class 1 historic designation of Tahquitz Plaza.
MARK DAVIS, spoke in support of the Citywide Historic Resources Inventory Survey, and in
support of Class 1 historic designation of Tahquitz Plaza. He expressed concern about the
Town & Country Center and stated he believes the Specific Plan needs to be changed to
remove the road that is proposed in the location of the T & C.
DAVID KEENE, spoke in support of Class 1 historic designation of Tahquitz Plaza.
1. CONSENT CALENDAR:
1.A. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: JULY 14, 2015 MEETING.
Minutes for June and July 2015 HSPB meetings were included in the paper copy of the
board members’ packets, but not included in the electronic copy.
SEPTEMBER 8, 2015
9:00 AM
REGULAR MEETING
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M/S/C (LaVoie/Dixon, 6-1 Ploss opposed) to continue consideration of approval of the
June HSPB meeting minutes to the October HSPB meeting.
M/S/C (La Voie/Hays, 7-0) to continue consideration of approval of the July 2015 HSPB
meeting minutes to the October HSPB meeting.
2. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
2.A. AN APPLICATION BY THE PALM SPRINGS PRESERVATION FOUNDATION
(PSPF) FOR CLASS 1 HISTORIC DESIGNATION OF 600 THROUGH 750
EAST TAHQUITZ CANYON WAY, “TAHQUITZ PLAZA”, ZONE REO (CASE
HSPB 97), (APN’s: 508-055-003 and 508-055-006).
Staff member Lyon summarized the staff report.
Chair Johns asked about the lack of a staff recommendation. (Director Fagg
noted the Historic Resources Report provides the recommendation and the
Board make its recommendation based on the findings of PSMC 8.05).
Member Dixon noted lack of a staff recommendation was unusual.
Member Burkett asked for clarification on the stay of demolition (Director Fagg
noted the board needed to take action today on whether to extend the stay of
demolition.)
Chair Johns opened the public hearing.
ERIC ROSENOW, Palm Springs Preservation Foundation, summarized their
nomination on Tahquitz Plaza and requested the Board recommend class 1
status to the City Council.
ROB ERES, Nexus Companies / O & M LLC, owner, spoke in opposition of the
nomination, noting CEQA analysis from previous entitlements for development
on the site did not identify the site as historically significant.
MARK DAVIS, resident spoke in support of the historic nomination of Tahquitz
Plaza.
NIKKI MCLAUGHLIN, representing the PSModern Committee spoke in support
of the nomination of Tahquitz Plaza.
ROBERT IMBER, Palm Springs Modern Tours, and Trustee of the California
Preservation Foundation spoke in support of Class 1 designation, and noted the
building has been neglected by the current owner.
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TRACY BACHMAN, member of PSPF and owner of Hotel Lautner in Desert Hot
Springs, spoke in support of the Class 1 designation.
DANNY HILLER, spoke in support of the Class 1 designation.
DONNA CHABAN, resident, spoke in support of the Class 1 designation.
Chair Johns closed the public hearing.
Director Fagg noted Hugh Kaptur, architect of Tahquitz Plaza, submitted an e-
mail to staff which was provided to the board members noting his support of the
Class 1 historic designation and that the hearing be rescheduled to October so
he can attend and add professional evidence on the importance of the site.
Member Ploss noted the increased density of the downtown project has
heightened the importance of preserving buildings like Tahquitz Plaza.
Member La Voie opined that the size, bulk, scale and relationship to Tahquitz
Canyon Drive, the use of the finned wing walls that are characteristic of this
period of architecture, the use of glue-lam beams for window trim, and the use of
a solid wood screen and skylights to control sun and daylight should be added as
character-defining features of the site.
Member Burkett noted the quote by Patrick McGrew in the historic resources
report about the under-recognized significance of “pueblo-modern” architecture
and stated he would support the Class 1 designation.
Member Dixon asked whether the previous HSPB was made aware of the 2008
project proposed for the site that would have demolished this building. She
asked for greater notification of new development projects in general. (Staff Lyon
noted a demo permit was never requested on the 2008 project entitlement and
noted lists for active development projects are on the City website and at the
Planning counter). She opined that the City should survey buildings built more
recently than 1969.
Member W illiamson noted passage of time often changes the awareness of the
historic importance of a building and also the economics of ownership of a
building. He asked what the City’s proactive role should be in working with
property owners on sites that are not yet designated but are important to the City
in terms of the public benefit of preserving the building.
Member Ploss noted the City’s ”One PS” neighborhood organization receives
reports on development projects on which decisions of approval by the City have
already passed and that this does not aid board members in making
recommendations or providing input.
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Member Hays spoke in support of the Class 1 nomination and stressed the
importance of the City providing assistance for building owners to preserve
important historic sites. He noted the characteristics of the building are unlike
anything that the board has recently seen. It is extremely unique and to lose it
would be a loss for the entire community.
Chair Johns asked about site visits, noting he did not have an opportunity for a
site visit accompanied by a City staff member. He noted Councilmember Mills
comment at a recent City Council meeting about the importance of preserving
and repurposing historic buildings. He noted the City should be more proactive
in assisting property owners to find an economic solution to adaptive reuse of
historic sites. He suggested a subcommittee of the Board and City Council could
work with this building owner to arrive at a win-win solution on the building. He
opined that Lois Anderson who operated The Anderson Travel Agency had
occupied the building for many years, and should be considered a person of
significance associated with the site and that the site meets Criteria 2 (persons of
significance) also.
Member Burkett asked how the City could approve a demo permit when there is
not a City-approved replacement building proposed? (Staff Lyon explained the
City Council established a policy that prohibited demolition of buildings when an
adverse economic condition could occur as a result of such demolition.) Member
Burkett suggested the Board should submit a recommendation to City Council
that demolitions on buildings in downtown and major thoroughfares like Tahquitz
should not occur without prior City approval of a replacement building or
development.
City Attorney Holland noted an agenda item for such a recommendation could be
placed on a future HSPB agenda, but it was not on the current agenda.
City Attorney Holland advised that the Board first must take action on Tahquitz
Plaza nomination request and then consider other matters regarding a stay of
demolition extension as an addition to the agenda.
Chair Johns noted his copy of the agenda which was taken from the City website
on Thursday did not match that which was handed out in paper. He noted he
had not had an opportunity for a site visit, that the staff report lacked a
recommendation, and Mr. Kaptur was not present, and for these reasons felt
action today on the application should be continued.
M/S/C (Johns/Dixon, 6-1 Ploss opposed) to continue the matter to the October
HSPB meeting.
Member Ploss asked for clarification of when the current stay of demolition
expires. (October 6, 2015)
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Mr. Holland advised the stay could be added to the agenda, noting that the
motion to continue would necessitate the need to add the extension of the stay to
the Board’s agenda after the posting of the agenda.
M/S/C (La Voie/Dixon, 7-0) to amend the agenda based on advice provided by
the City Attorney on the board’s action to continue the item, to add extending the
stay of demolition to the Board’s agenda.
M/S/C (La Voie/Dixon, 7-0) to extend the stay of demolition on Tahquitz Plaza for
60 days as per PSMC 8.05. (The 120-day stay was initiated on June 9, 2015
and would have ended on October 6, 2015. The action extends the stay for a
period not to exceed sixty (60) days from October 7, 2015 until December 5,
2015, pursuant to PSMC 8.05.170 to allow time for the City Council to conduct a
public hearing to consider the HSPB’s recommendation on the matter.)
The Board took a five minute recess.
5D. TOWN & COUNTRY CENTER, 174 NORTH PALM CANYON DRIVE, (Case HSPB
#51)
(Taken out of order).
Director Fagg summarized that the subject site is part of the Museum Marketplace Specific
Plan (SP) and that the City Attorney is present to answer questions by the board.
Chair Johns noted that roughly a year ago the Board expressed desire to revisit Class 1
nomination and at that time City Attorney Holland advised that the Specific Plan would need to
be amended for the council to re-consider Class 1 designation. The Board at that time asked
staff to bring forward instructions on how to request the Council to amend the specific plan. He
noted the recent action by the State in determining the Town & County Center (T & C) eligible
for listing on the State and National Register of Historic Places. He asked whether the State’s
action voided the City’s current CEQA analysis in the SP on the T & C?
City Attorney Holland noted that the Planning Commission and the City Council are the two
entities that can initiate a specific plan amendment. He opined that the State’s recent action
on the T & C could perhaps be the basis for the board to request the Council to amend the
specific plan and CEQA analysis.
Chair Johns asked if the Board could create something to bring to the Council to initiate
amendment to the Specific Plan that the T & C should be preserved for adaptive reuse.
Board member Ploss asked about recent past revisions and changes to the Specific Plan and
whether they each required amendment to the Specific Plan; (Attorney Holland explained that
those changes were approved by the Council making findings that the changes were
consistent with the Specific Plan and thus no amendment was required).
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Chair Johns asked the board to discuss making a recommendation to City Council to take the
T & C out of the Specific Plan so it could be considered for Class 1 designation.
Member La Voie asked whether there was a CEQA document associated with the Specific
Plan (Attorney Holland noted yes, he believed it was adopted in 2009 with the last amendment
to the SP). La Voie asked that, in the event that a development proposal were to come forward
for the T & C site, would a CEQA revision be required now that the status of the property had
changed via the State’s determination of eligibility. (Attorney Holland said he saw this as a
rhetorical question and it would need to be evaluated at the time a development application
came forward.) Member La Voie opined that the board should request the City Council to
amend the SP and its CEQA.
Member Ploss asked whether the City had information from the Tribe about their
redevelopment plans relative to the proposed new street on the T & C site. (no information
has been received by Planning).
Member Burkett asked where a citizen could find information about the current Specific Plan.
(the Specific Plan is available on line on the City website and at the Planning Department).
Chair Johns summarized that the board can make a proposal or recommendation to the City
Council to request an amendment to the Specific Plan.
3. UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
3.A. UPDATE ON THE CITYWIDE HISTORIC RESOURCE INVENTORY –
HISTORIC RESOURCES GROUP, INC.
Staff Lyon summarized the staff memo. The update included three options for
making the survey accessible on line to the public. Lyon noted HRG will be at the
October meeting with the final draft of the survey effort.
Member Williamson asked how staff might use the survey to proactively reach
out to owners of sites with possible historic significance to assist them with
adaptive reuse opportunities. (Staff Lyon noted the current 2004 survey is
regularly referenced when staff response to questions from property owners,
developers, realtors and others.)
Member Dixon asked if the current survey is available to the public (yes, via the
City website and at the planning counter).
Member Ploss asked questions about how the Las Palmas Business Historic
District work by HRG ties in to the overall survey and expressed frustration with
lack of progress on that initiative.
Member Williamson asked how the linkages between the context statement and
the individual data sheets would work and asked that there be an ability to
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hyperlink between the context statement and the individual data sheets. (Lyon
explained they will be linked by APN and address and would discuss with HRG
the ability to hyperlink sites).
Chair Johns noted HRG would address the board at the October meeting.
4. NEW BUSINESS:
4.A. AN APPLICATION BY W.C. FORD, OWNER, TO DEMOLISH ALL
STRUCTURES AT 1850 SMOKETREE LANE; ROCK 13, 1R, A CLASS 3
HISTORIC SITE, ZONE R-1-C (CASE 3.3899 MAA).
Staff member Lyon summarized the staff report.
JOHN WALSH, Architect, representing the owner further clarified the scope of
the project.
TRACY CONRAD, Executive Director of Smoketree Ranch stated the HOA had
reviewed the application and concluded the existing home lacks sufficient historic
integrity. She noted that regardless of the HSPB”s action today, the demolition
may not occur until the HOA architectural committee approves a replacement
structure.
Member Ploss asked about the size of the proposed replacement structure
(roughly 5,500 square feet) and whether the pool would be demolished (yes).
M/S/C (Williamson/La Voie, 6-0-1 Hays abstained) to take no action and allow
the demolition of the structures at the site.
5. DISCUSSION:
5.A. 2016 MAY NATIONAL PRESERVATION MONTH (Burkett)
Member Burkett was appointed the chair of the subcommittee working on the
development and production of the event. Member Ploss and Hays were
appointed to the subcommittee and Member La Voie will provide backup
technical support to the event.
Member Burkett noted the emphasis of the event would be preservation
education and awareness to local residents and others.
The subcommittee will come back at future meetings to recommend a date for
the event as well as other details. (Late March or April 16th tentative date.)
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5.B. HSPB PARTICIPATION IN THE OCTOBER 2015 MODERNISM WEEK
PREVIEW SHOW AT THE PALM SPRINGS AIR MUSEUM (OCTOBER 8-12,
2015)
Staff requested direction whether the Board desires to have a non-staffed
booth/presence at the show similar to the booth at the February 2015 Modernism
Show. The Board concurred it would like a presence and staff will coordinate
that activity.
5.C. COACHELLA VALLEY HISTORIC PRESERVATION ALLIANCE – ROBERT
ZAFRAN, BOARD MEMBER, RANCHO MIRAGE HP BOARD.
ROBERT ZAFRAN and RAY KELLER from Rancho Mirage Preservation
Commission summarized their effort in planning a proposed valley-wide meeting
of a representative of each municipal government preservation organization to
share information and discuss issues in common.
Member Burkett was appointed to be the Palm Springs representative to
participate in any meeting that may be arranged and will report back to the
Board. Member Ploss was appointed as an alternate.
5.D. THE TOWN & COUNTRY CENTER, 175 NORTH PALM CANYON DRIVE –
CLASS 1 NOMINATION DISCUSSION (CASE HSPB #51 - (Johns). (discussed
earlier in the meeting as noted.)
5.E. OCTOBER 14TH, 2015 LIBRARY LECTURE SERIES PRESENTATION (Lyon,
Dixon, LaVoie, Hays (Class 1 education subcommittee)
Staff Lyon explained the library asked for creation of a presentation on historic
preservation for October 14 at the Mizell Center. He asked members for their
assistance in assembling the presentation materials (PowerPoint presentation).
5.F. PALM SPRINGS PRESERVATION FOUNDATION LETTER REGARDING
EXPANSION OF CITYWIDE SURVEY (Fagg)
Director Fagg distributed a letter from PSPF recommending coverage dates of
the citywide survey be expanded beyond 1969. He noted if a date were to be
proposed HRG suggested 1979. He explained the limitations of available
funding to expand the current survey inventory initiative.
Chair Johns asked if PSMC 8.05 should be revised to update Class 3 dates to
those structures built before 1969 to those built before 1979.
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Member La Voie suggested it would be more appropriate to establish a
timeframe, for example buildings 40 years of age or older, so that as resources
age, the date in the ordinance doesn’t need to be continually revised.
Member Ploss suggested approaching PSPF to conduct the survey for sites from
1969 to 1979. Director Fagg noted integration of two separate entities might be
complicated to coordinate databases.
The board requested staff to initiate amending the ordinance to define Class 3
sites as those with structures 40-years of age or older, and work with the City
Manager for funding to expand the survey effort for HRG to include structures
built prior to 1979.
BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS:
Chair Johns requested Town & Country be on the next agenda.
Member Ploss passed out survey sheets she authored on defining historic characteristics on
City-owned buildings and asked board members to review and forward any recommended
edits.
Chair Johns requested an update on status of stabilization and restoration of the Cornelia
White House.
Chair Johns emphasized the Board’s request to staff to reach out to the building owner of the
Tahquitz Plaza to see if there is a way to be proactive and explore adaptive reuse of the
facility. He requested Mr. Kaptur be invited to attend the next HSPB meeting on the topic.
Director Fagg reminded the board that at site visits deliberation among members should be
avoided and only held during the public hearings to avoid violation of the Brown Act.
Member Burkett suggested the Board reach out to an individual such as Leo Marmol of
architectural firm Marmol/Radziner to discuss viewpoints on adaptive reuse.
Member La Voie opined that the Board’s determination to recommend designation should only
be based on its historic merit, not what possible adaptive reuse might be possible.
Member Hays opined that the Board should assist in creating an environment in which
adaptive reuse could be considered.
Member La Voie asked staff to remind the Tahquitz Plaza owner of the Board’s action to allow
more intensified development on the remainder of the site in exchange for preserving and
adapting the Community Church.
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Member Ploss asked staff to request Cornelia White to be agendized by the City Council to
discuss the urgency of stabilization effort.
STAFF COMMENTS:
Director Fagg reminded the board during public hearings to confine discussion to the
agendized topic and in making a recommendation to the City Council on historic designation,
for the Board to identify the criteria or findings upon which it is basing its recommendation.
ADJOURNMENT: The Historic Site Preservation Board adjourned to its regularly scheduled
meeting on Tuesday, October 13, 2015, at 9:00 A.M, in the Large Conference Room at City
Hall.