HomeMy WebLinkAbout2022-05-11 PC Meeting MinutesPLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
MAY 11, 2022
CITY OF PALM SPRINGS, CALIFORNIA
3200 East Tahquitz Canyon Way, Palm Springs, California
(Meeting held via Zoom)
CALL TO ORDER:
Chair Weremiuk called the meeting to order at 5:31 pm.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Aylaian, Ervin, Miller, Moruzzi, Chair Weremiuk
Excused Absence: Hirschbein, Vice Chair Roberts
Staff Present: Assistant Planning Director Newell, Attorney Priest, Administrative
Coordinator Hintz, Principal Planner Robertson
REPORT OF POSTING OF AGENDA: The agenda was available for public access at
the City Hall exterior bulletin board (west side of Council Chamber) by 9:00 pm on
Thursday, May 5, 2022, and posted on the City's website as required by established
policies and procedures.
ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA:
Miller, seconded by Moruzzi to accept the agenda, as presented.
AYES: AYLAIAN, ERVIN, MILLER, MORUZZI, WEREMIUK
ABSENT: HIRSCHBEIN, ROBERTS
PUBLIC COMMENTS: None.
1. CONSENT CALENDAR:
Chair Weremiuk requested one minor change to the minutes.
1A. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: APRIL 27, 2022
Moruzzi, seconded by Miller to approve the minutes, as amended.
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AYES: AYLAIAN, ERVIN, MILLER, MORUZZI, WEREMIUK
ABSENT: HIRSCHBEIN, ROBERTS
2. PUBLIC HEARINGS: NONE
3. UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
3A. AVALON 1150, LLC, FOR THE APPROVAL OF FINAL DEVELOPMENT
PLANS FOR 130 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON 50-FOOT-
WIDE LOTS WITHIN THE PHASE 2 SECTION OF THE MIRALON
DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT 801 SUNRISE WAY, ZONE PDD 290,
SECTION 35 (CASE 5.0982-PD 290 / TTM 31848) (ER)
Principal Planner Robertson presented the project as outlined in the staff. Planner
Robertson reported that Plan B is not consistent with the Miralon design guidelines, and
the comments made by the subcommittee have not been incorporated particularly in the
rooflines and proposed colors of the homes.
Mr. Priest, attorney, said the three (3) issues identified relative the Miralon design
guidelines are: 1.) sloped rooflines (design guidelines call out cantilever or flat roofs; 2.)
frames and materials for windows and sliding glass doors (Planning Commission
granted the Preliminary POD amendment and removed requirement for aluminum; and
highly recommended fiberglass material and alternate window material on a case-by-
case basis.) Mr. Priest said if the Planning Commission believes an alternative window
material is insufficient to deal with high winds and blowing sand and objects the
Commission could require a different material for proper insulation, as well as providing
adequate shading.
BRAD SHUCKHART, AVALON 1150, LLC, said they had the slide presentation for the
original design and apologized a video is not available. Mr. Shuckhart said he thinks
they have done significant work with reasonable and meaningful changes from the first
submittal. He explained they made a conscious decision to incorporate some sloped
roofs into 50% of the elevations as they are projecting what's being built at Miralon and
the idea of going with flat roofs completely across the board creates monotony. Mr.
Shuckhart explained they worked hard at simplifying the sloped roofs by taking the pitch
down for more of a midcentury modern type of home.
COLIN LIU, Robert Hidey Architects, project architect, provided details on refinements
made to the site plan based on the Planning Commission's comments and comments
received at the workshop, floor plan revisions, updated elevation design and response
to earlier questions from the Commission. Mr. Liu explained previously all the front
setbacks were set at 10 feet; and the revised plotting shows a variation ranging from 1 O
ft. to 15 ft. and the corner lots are either a Plan 3 or Plan 4 with a side entry and more
fenestration; he provided detail on the reciprocal side-yard easement, with regard to the
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floor plans, and they studied the floor plan layout and noticed a handful of the homes
with a spa pool in the front yard can take advantage of the San Jacinto mountains. He
said after discussion with the subcommittee in March they decided this was not
economically feasible and added one additional floor plan. Mr. Liu described the
models in detail, elevations, flat or sloping roofs and shading from the roof overhangs.
Commission Comments:
Commissioner Miller said he was not serving on the Commission when this project was
originally presented on January 12, 2022, however, he has reviewed the materials and
is up to date on the project. Mr. Miller thinks there have been significant improvements
made from the plans reviewed on Jan. 12th to the current revised plans. Mr. Miller said
he prefers to defer to the subcommittee as far as recommendations and supports the
majority of what the subcommittee members think is appropriate.
Commissioner Aylaian concurred with Commissioner Miller; and said she respects her
colleagues, who were part of the subcommittee, and were more involved in the details
and understand the architecture of the project.
Commissioner Moruzzi, as a member of the subcommittee, said the level of
architectural details discussed on the subcommittee was tremendous and beyond his
capabilities because he is not an architect. He said it's unfortunate Mr. Hirschbein is not
present today because he had lots of thoughts and was very involved in all of the
discussion as it relates to the details. Mr. Moruzzi said he does not think it would be
appropriate to send it back to the subcommittee, at this point, because the type of
discussions they were having would have been better at the Architectural Review
Committee level. Mr. Moruzzi said in terms of the sloped roofs, apparently, they have
approved these in the past and does not know what the circumstances were. He thinks
it would be a good idea to have some sloped roofs to eliminate monotony.
Chair Weremiuk said she could speak as a member of this subcommittee and all the
previous subcommittees, she does not think they have finished with the roofs on the
Plan B, some have as many as seven sloped variations which is incredibly busy. She
said she took a drive by Toll Brothers and if she sees a slope variation it might be one
sloping up to the front or back but does not see seven. Ms. Weremiuk said she prefers
to send it back to the ARC with these recommendations and thinks the colors are
outdated. She said the colors that are selling right now are whites and grays and not
tans and brown. She said in the rear yards when they reviewed Woodbridge project,
they required they that they create a path of travel so that they don't put the pools in
front of the exits leading into the golf course public space. She expressed concern with
the roof overhangs and lack of shading. She said the building envelope does not, at
this point, provide shade to the living areas without that area requiring to be covered.
Ms. Weremiuk said she would like to have the ARC look at the differentiation on all four
sides and make sure they are comfortable with that. She thinks the window issue
should be sent to the ARC for review; noting that she would prefer to use the aluminum
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windows or the fiberglass window frames. She thinks the window manufacturer confirm
to the ARC that there will be no leakage. Ms. Weremiuk does not think all the roofs
need to be flat but seven sloped variations are excessive. She thinks the 4th and 5th
plans still need work and the back side of the building is not attractive. She thinks
there's still work to be done and if they do not want to send it to subcommittee then it
should be sent to the ARC with these comments.
Commissioner Moruzzi said he does not think this project should go back to the
subcommittee but should go directly to the ARC. Mr. Moruzzi said the ARC is capable
of dealing with these issues as well as the subcommittee and it will only add more time
to the review process.
In response to Assistant Planning Director Newell regarding if the applicant is willing to
reduce the number of sloped roofs, Mr. Shuckhart said they have demonstrated a
willingness to work with the city's feedback thus far, and they will continue to do so. He
said they are not hearing that they need to get rid of sloped roofs on the B elevations
but rather simplify them. He said he has not counted the roof planes on the designs,
but they can reduce the number on the plans or elevations.
Weremiuk, seconded by Moruzzi to find the final plan is in substantial conformance with
the Preliminary POD Plan with specific recommendations to the Architectural Review
Committee, as follows:
AYES:
1. A reduction in number of sloped roofs;
2. Path of travel in rear of homes leading to (former) golf course should not be
cluttered;
3. The ARC to look at all four sides of the buildings and determine they are
sufficiently articulated;
4. Look at the color palette to ensure the colors will sell;
5. The building envelopes shall create shade or prefers to shade structures or
provide different options that provides shade;
6. ARC to review window frames that do not allow sand intrusions.
ABSENT:
AYLAIAN, ERVIN, MILLER, MORUZZI, WEREMIUK
HIRSCHBEIN, ROBERTS
4. NEW BUSINESS: NONE
PLANNING COMMISSION REPORTS, REQUESTS AND COMMENTS:
• Commissioner Moruzzi reported the Frontier landscaping on Sunrise Way has
improved greatly.
• Status of pad elevation south of Ramon Road and west of Palm Canyon.
• Upcoming Planning Commission meetings.
PLANNING DIRECTOR'S REPORT:
• Orchid Tree property performance schedule.
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ADJOURNMENT: The Planning Commission adjourned at 7:00 pm to 5:30 pm,
Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 3200 East Tahquitz Canyon Way.
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David Newell, AICP
Assistant Director of Planning