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Council Chamber, City Hall
October 25, 1989
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1989 - 1990
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to Date
Larry Lapham, Chairman X 8 0
Gary Olsen X 8 0
Barbara Whitney X 8 0
Brent Hough X 4 4
Martha Edgmon X 8 0
Chris Mills X 8 0
Michael Dotson X 8 0
Staff Present -
Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director
! Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney
Douglas Evans, Atsistant Planning Director
Debra Goodwin, Planner
Sherri Abbas, Planner
Dave Forcucci , Planner
Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
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Architectural. Advisory Committee - October 23, 1989
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Brent Hough, Chairman Absent: Mike Buccino
William Johnson
Will Kleindienst
Reuel Young
Tom Doczi
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
M/S/C (Olsen/Hough; Edgmon/Mills absent) approving minutes of October 11, 1989
with the following corrections:
Page 4, Paragraph 6, CASE 3.0477. Add after "designed", "on Indian Avenue".
Page 4, last paragraph, CASE 3.0477: Change "plans" to "plants" .
Page 6, first paragraph, CASE 5.0522-PD-205: Add after . . ."issue at the
Council " , "meeting" .
REPORT OF POSTING AGENDA:
�-- The October 25, 1989 agenda was available for public access at the City Hall
exterior bulletin board and the Planning Division Counter by 5:00 p.m. , Friday,
October 20, 1989.
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October 25, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 2
CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
M/S/C (Whitney/Dotson; Edgmon/Mills absent) taking the following actions:
CASE 3.0452. Application by ROBERTSON-SMITH for architectural approval of final
landscape, irrigation, exterior lighting plans, identification sign, and
walls for retail/commercial/industrial complex on Gene Autry Trail , M-1
Zone, Section 19.
Restudy of sign noting the following:
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1. That base or pedestal is needed.
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2. That black element is weak, needs more emphasis.
3. That letter style is weak, too blocky.
4. That reveals need to be increased.
5. That sign width needs to be increased.
Continued landscaping to November 8 at the applicant's request.
CASE 3.0484. Application by DAN MICLEA . for architectural approval of final
working -drawings for a single family hillside residence at 2330 Tuscany
Road, R-1-B Zone, Section 3.
Approved as submitted.
CASE 3.0558. Application by MIKE GALLEGO for architectural approval of revised
fina working drawings for auto repair on Oleander Road between Ramon
Road/Camino Parocela, M-1 Zone, Section 19.
Approved subject to the following conditions:
1. That planter along north bay parking space be increased.
2. That trash enclosure be moved toward the gate, increase the planter
area, and add a shade tree.
CASE 3.0605. Application by ALI NIKSEFAT for architectural approval of revised
final detailed landscape plans for a single-family hillside residence on
the southeast corner of Fern Canyon Drive/Ramon Road, R-1-A Zone, Section
22.
Continued pending receipt of revised plans .
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CONSENT AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.0683. Application by GREAT AMERICAN MINI STORAGE for architectural
approval of addition to existing mini-storage building at 960 Research
Drive, M-1-P Zone, Section 12.
(Given Environmental Assessment previously in conjunction with TTM 8779.)
Approved subject to the following conditions:
1. That building H is deleted from plan.
2. That planter boxes should be restudied, suggest berming or revised
boxes, and are subject to staff approval .
3. That landscaping should be included on north property line, suggest
10 ft. wide planter.
4. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be met.
CASE 5.0516 - CUP. Application by RANDY ROESCH for architectural approval of
revised elevations for a light maintenance/vehicle cleaning/administrative
office building for Roesch Bus Lines on Research Drive between Computer
Way/Farrell Drive, M-1-P Zone, Section 12.
Continued to November 8 pending receipt of revised plans.
CASE 3.0626. Application by R. MARTIN for architectural approval of final land-
scape plans for 4-unit apartment complex at 1965 S. Camino Real , R-2 Zone,
Section 26.
Approved subject to the following condition: That the plans in case file
show the modifications.
CASE 3.0662 (MINOR) . Application by ROCCO GAMBINO/TLC REALTY for architectural
approval of removal of windows and repaint of Rimrock Shopping Center, CON
Zone, Section 30.
Approved subject to the following conditions: That paint sample be painted
on building. Final determination on color selection to be made at that
time.
October 25, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 4
ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
CASE 3.0608 (MINOR). Application by SUNRISE VILLAGE for architectural approval
of entrance wall at 1500 E. San Rafael Drive, PD-116, Section 35.
Chairman abstained; Vice-Chairman presided.
Planner (Goodwin) stated that the fence is 6 ft. high, made of redwood, and
follows the property line of the coaches; that it can be seen from San
Rafael ; that oleanders will be planted in front of the fence; that a very
mature oleander hedge is on the west side to screen coaches on that portion
of the fence.
In reply to Vice-Chairman's question, Assistant City Attorney stated that
one of the abstaining members of the Commission is counted to make up the
quorum.
Commissioner Dotson stated that a fence such as the proposed one would not be
approved at the entry of any other property in the City, although he under-
stood that there were extenuating circumstances because of lack of money on
this particular project.
M/S/C (Olsen/Whitney; Lapham abstained; Mills/Edgmon absent) approving the
application as submitted.
CASE 3.0679. Application by TED BAUM for architectural approval of single-family
hi lside residence on Andreas Hills Drive between Bogert Trail/Redfovd
Drive, R-1-C Zone, Section 1.
Planner (Goodwin) stated that the AAC had concerns about the setbacks and
felt that the house should be moved back 20 to 25 ft. ; that the adjacent
house is 21.5 ft. back; and that the AAC also recommended chimney caps.
Commissioner Hough stated that there was no consensus by the AAC on the
distance the house should be moved back and that there is a concrete flood
channel at the back which hinders relocation of the house.
Planning Director stated that the color was recommended for restudy because
the proposal is for stark white, which is glaring; that he been on the site
to see the reason for location of the house; that there is a master bedroom
with a view which will be restricted if the house is moved too far back;
that 25 ft. back will place the house against the drainage ditch and that
the closest point of the house is approximately 10 to 12 ft. from the
property line.
Mark Durkton, 1480 Palm Tree Drive, Palm Springs stated that the house is
oriented so that the side faces the street; that if moved back there would
be dead space at the channel ; that the adjacent house has a drainage
' channel which is farther back which allows more room to place that house;
and that there is no problem with location of the wall at the property
line.
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ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.0679. (Continued)
Commissioner Dotson asked if the pad is on a knoll .
Planning Director explained that the pad is benched; that the house is 16
ft. high from the property line at the closest point from street grade;
that the condos across the street are setback 29 ft. to the face of the
garage; and that the topo drops on the site. He stated that there is 21
ft. from the face of the curb and that some movement and re-orientation
could probably be done without changing the characteristics of the site.
Mr. Durkton stated that the drainage channel on the colored plan is from
another lot.
Chairman suggested that the house be moved 25 ft. back from the face of the
curb to give the visual effect of an adequate setback.
Commissioner Whitney left.
M/S/C ((Hough/Olsen; Mills/Whitney/Edgmon absent) approving the application
subject to the following conditions: :
�..- 1. That the front yard setback should be increased to 25 feet from face
of curb.
2. That the chimney needs chimney caps. There should not be an exposed
spark arrestor.
3. That final landscape and fence plans be approved by the AAC and
Planning Commission.
4. That the color be restudied.
5. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be met except
the requirement for collection of drainage fees which is not applic-
able to sites in this area of the City.
Commissioner Whitney returned.
CASE 3.0688. Application by BRUZZI INC. for architectural approval of revised
exterior revisions to the Desert Fashion Plaza for a restaurant/bar on N.
Palm Canyon Drive, C-B-D Zone, Section 15.
Planner (Abbas) stated that the application was restudied; that the AAC
reviewed two proposals at its October 23 meeting and recommended #2 which
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ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.0688. (Continued)
has doors opening out toward the space and fixed windows which resemble
doors; and that the AAC has felt there was a circulation problem and
thought the Commission should determine how the outdoor dining should be
designed.
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Planner stated that the second column of the overhang is 16 ft. from the
face of the building; that the Hamburger Hamlet Restaurant has clay pots
defining its outdoor dining area; that if the dining areas stops at the
first column the existing circulation will remain; that the dining is
expended to the second column the circulation would change and that the
additional area created would have to be filled in; that no pattern estab-
lished by the sidewalk and there is no concern about destroying a sidewalk
pattern in the arrangement of the outdoor dining; that probably no more
than four restaurants will be allowed at the Desert Fashion Plaza, and that
this is the fourth; and that the AAC felt that landscaping should not be
removed.
Commissioner Olsen stated that landscaping deletion would not be a problem
because of the wide area; that the dining should be extended to the second
column and that Brentano's business should not suffer because of the
arrangement.
Planner stated that people waiting for tables could shop at the bookstore.
Commissioner Hough stated that he did not/have
about extending the
dining to the second column and eliminating some landscaping; that the
Hamburger Hamlet outdoor dining has always looked temporary and that the
permanence of the outdoor dining will result from the type of furniture,
the grouping, and the installation.
Commissioner Dotson stated that it is difficult to understand the whole
picture of the pedestrian flow because information is received out of con-
text; and that outdoor dining should look permanent.
Bruce Saiber, 543 Tercero Circle, the applicant, stated that merchants have
not expressed a perception that the outdoor dining will disrupt business;
that the Fashion Mall opinion is that the outdoor dining should extend to
the second columns and will increase business; that he had met with the
owner; that the City is in favor of outdoor dining and extension of the
sidewalk, but does not want a temporary appearance; and that he can provide
the maintenance and assurance of permanence.
Chairman stated that the restaurant's outdoor dining should be extended to
the second column and a restudy made of the appearance to determine that it
�.. has a permanent and elegant look.
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ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.0688. (Continued)
M/S/C (Hough/Dotson; Mills absent) approving the concept of outdoor dining
subject to the following; conditions:
1. That an overall plan for the frontage of the Fashion Plaza be pro-
vided.
2. That more permanent planters be used.
3. That installation of the outdoor dining be restudied noting
Commission concerns about a permanent appearance and elegance.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
CASE 5.0519-PD-203. Application by CONGRECARE INC. for a Planned Development
District for an elderly care facility on Sunrise Way between Amado
Road/Desert Palms Drive, R-2 Zone, Section 13.
(Commission response to written comments on Draft Negative Declaration; no
comments received; action. )
Recommendation: That the Commission order the filing of a Negative
Declaration and approve the application subject to conditions.
Planner (Goodwin) stated that people density was used for calculations for
the number of beds (maximum number of units by right of zone multiplied by
the average number of persons per unit from census figures for Palm
Springs) and that this calculation resulted in 46 units and with a density
bonus of 20% the number of allowable units or persons would increase to 55
people on a 1 person occupancy per room basis. She stated that staff
recommends redesign of the ends of the circular drive to increase land-
scaping; that the curb cuts are too wide; and that the facility is marketed
toward the elderly frail in their 70's and 80's who generally do not drive.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
Jack Hollander, 616 N. Walden Drive, Beverly Hills, project architect,
stated that the design is residential rather than institutional ; that all
units face into a large courtyard; that there are glass openings in the
corridors for light; and that privacy is maintained by facing units inward
rather than outward; that there is a reflective pool and a porte-cochere
which make the facility resemble a country club; that the building has been
lowered to one story in the back to reduce impacts on the condominium
project behind the facility; that the residents will be up to 85 years in
age and may need some help in care but do not require institionalization;
that driveway entrances will be narrowed and additional landscaping pro-
vided on two corners; that the kitchen area will be hidden from view by
landscaping, and that there is communal dining.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0519-PD-203. (Continued)
Steve Moran, Congrecare representative, 24594 Sunnymead Blvd. , Moreno
Valley, stated that the residents do not have acute medical problems but
are frail and they will be assisted with medication and have communal
dining.
Commissioner Dotson asked about a single elevator in a two story facility
in case of emergencies. Mr. Hollender stated that there is one large
elevator which is what has been required on other facilities.
Mr. Moran stated that no one housed on the second story will be on a walker
and can exit by stairs; and that the building is fire sprinklered.
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Olga Tieg, representing the owner of the property stated that the project
would add architectural interest and would improve and enhance the City.
There being no further appearances; Chairman declared the hearing closed.
Commissioner Dotson asked if the architecture in the renderings were to be
approved.
Planning Director explained that the front elevation on the board recalls
the artist renderings; that the Commission is acting upon both the concept
and building mass; and that the signage and architecture will be reviewed
at a later date.
Commissioner Hough stated that he liked the architecture and concept but
was concerned about servicing the kitchen area because of truck deliveries,
cleaning of the grates and grills and meeting requirements of a commercial
kitchen; and that there is no definite area designed for it on the plans.
He stated that the servicing area should be hidden from the street.
Commissioner Dotson stated that a 20% density increase has been given; and
that the units are expensive; and asked:. if housing and low income needs are
being met. He stated that this requirement should be demonstrated by the
applicant.
Planning Director stated that by allowing a 20% density increase, a rent
structure has to be provided by the applicants for filling low income
requirements; and that the requirement can be reviewed in final development
plans.
Mr. Moran stated that he is committed to servicing low-income housing and
will allow a certain number of residents in this category, and that the
units will rent from $1600 to $1700 per month including meals, transporta-
tion, and provision of medication.
Commissioner Edgmon noted that she was concerned about only one elevator
for the people on the second floor and asked about design criteria.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0519-PD-203. (Continued)
Mr. Moran replied that the facility is licensed by the State and that fire
clearance has to be received from the State and local fire departments and
that people with the most difficulty will be housed on the ground floor.
Commissioner Hough stated that a building of four stories cannot legally
use an elevator in a fire.
Chairman declared the hearing closed.
M/S/C (Olsen/Hough; Mills absent) approving Case 5.0519-PD-203 based on the
following findings and subject to the following conditions:
Findings:
1. That a Planned Development District is the proper application for
this project.
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community.
3. That the proposed use is consistent with the General Plan.
4. That the size (61,160 square feet) and shape of the site is adequate
to accommodate the proposed use.
5. That Sunrise Way is adequately designed to accommodate any traffic
generated b this project.
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6. That the conditions imposed are necessary to protect the public
health, safety, and general welfare of the community.
Conditions•
1. That all Development Committee conditions dated October 25, 1989, be
met.
2. That the project be limited to a maximum of 55 occupants .
3. That the driveway widths be reduced.
4. That planter width be increased on north/south perimeter.
5. That sideyard setback must have variation.
6. That service aspects of kitchen functions receive increased attention
and be screened from view.
CASE 6.0371 VARIANCE (REF. CASE 3.0581) . Application by JAMES JEFFORDS, SR. for
a variance from building setbacks from 12 ft. to 2 feet on east and south
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
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CASE �. /3: Continued
property lines for a carport and from 5 to 0 ft. on the west property line
for a swimming pool setback and architectural approval for a single-family
hillside residence on Southridge Drive, Lot 21, R-1-A Zone, Section 25.
(This action is categorically exempt from environmental assessment per CEQA
guidelines.)
Recommendation: That the Commission approve variance Case 6.0371 and Case
3.0581.
Planner (Goodwin) stated that the variance is required because of the
nature of the terrain; that the variance will avoid further scarring of the
surface; and that no more dirt will be moved.
Assistant Planning Director stated that there is little left to grade on
top; that the steep portions of the hillside will be undisturbed; that the
pad is already graded; and that the retaining wall area is cut.
Chairman Lapham stated the design of the house is very good architecture.
Commissioner Whitney stated that there are several pools on the edge of
hillsides in the area.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
James Jeffords, the applicant, stated that he is proud of the design; that
the carport will not change anything on the site; that the wall would be
required whether or not a carport were constructed; that the neighbors are
pleased with the design; that the pool is hidden behind a wall ; and that
there is little land with which to work.
Commissioner Dotson asked if the pool could be installed without disturbing
the natural grade.
Mr. Jeffords stated that it could.
There being no further appearances; Chairman declared the hearing closed.
Assistant Planning Director stated that the footing is very large for the
pool retaining wall and the hillside will be disturbed, but that the rock
materials will be put back and landscaping worked around the rocks.
M/S/C (Hough/Olsen; Mills absent) approving Variance 6.0371 and Case 3.0581
based on the following findings and subject to the following conditions:
Findings:
1. That due to the substandard area and steep slopes applicable to the
subject property, the strict application of the Zoning Ordinance
would deprive the subject property of privileges enjoyed by other
properties in the vicinity and under identical zoning classification.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
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2. That conditions of approval have been required which will assure that
the adjustment thereby authorized shall not constitute a grant of
special privilege inconsistent with the limitations upon other
properties in the vicinity and zone in which the subject property is
situated.
3. That the granting of such variance will not adversely affect the
General Plan of the City.
Condition:
1 That all conditions of the Development T a D to met Committee dated October 25
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1989, be met.
TTM 25112. Application by BARCON DEVELOPMENT for a tentative tract map for con-
dominium purposes located on Avenida Caballeros/Saturnino Road, R-4 Zone
(I.L.) , Section 14. (Ref. Case 3.0702-A)
Planner (Abbas) stated that the south half of the Villa Caballeros project
was approved, expired, and was reapproved; that the new portion will be
condominiums instead of apartments; and that there were several residents
of the original part of the Caballeros project present.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
Mr. Gold, Barcon Development, 4165 Eclectic, Palm Desert, the applicant,
stated that no apartments were involved and that condominiums were planned.
Steve Carlton, representing Hacker Engineering, project engineer, stated
that the firm will abide by and exceed the City requirements and will
follow through on the development.
Richard Duffy, 1729 E. Palm Canyon, manager of the original project, stated
that the developer did not contact the residents of the original part of
the development; that the residents were not notified of the hearing; that
the developer should first meet with the residents about using their
facilities and trying to absorb 72 new units .
Bill Brown, 255 Avenida Caballeros, stated that the residents had no
notice; that the project had been approved; that he was told that the sub-
ject map was a "done deal "; that the residents had concerns about the
impacts of the new project on the old and also about increasing the density
from 25 units to 72; that the residents had no time to review the proposal ;
that the old project was vacant and finally sold at auction; that the
residents do not want the new units to be part of the original homeowners
association; and that residents need to meet with the developer.
Chairman asked about notification.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
TTM 25112. (Continued)
Planning Director replied that there were two possibilities: 1) that the
project may have been identified as an entire project and none of the
existing units were notified, or 2) that the entire project was related to
the previous ownership on the tax rolls and that staff would have to review
the circumstances.
Don Gorney, 255 Avenida Caballeros, stated that he bought his condominium
as an escape; that he had been told when he bought his unit that there
would be another phase developed near the original ; that the son of the
developer is now proposing the new project; that there is a vast difference
between one and two bedroom units because one bedroom units are tryst units
and man times bought
y ou t b corporations; that the developer should be
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required to develop two bedroom units; that he would fight the development
of the new project; and that the developer should perform the original
design or not build the project.
Guy Azio, Villa Caballeros, stated that he bought in the complex because
they were nice and close to town and; was told a "butterfly" development
would be built identical to the first complex; that the current driveway
causes problems with the present residents and will be further impacted
when 72 additional units are built; that the driveway currently is a speed-
way; that the residents want the "butterfly" to be built; that if the units
are built the current residents want a division on the driveway because it
is dangerous; and that the project should be continued for review by the
residents. He stated that the residents should have been contacted by the
developer as a courtesy.
Beatrice Ott, Villa Caballeros, stated that her condo is beautiful ; that
the residents were promised 59 units comparable to the existing units; that
one bedroom units downgrade properties; that they are often used as party
units; that there will be no guard gate, driveway, or wall for separation;
and that the application should be continued.
Josephine McCabe, 1080 La Verne and 102 Villa Caballeros, stated that she
was not opposed to rentals because she leases her unit but she was told at
the time of purchase that 59 units would be added and that 72 will lower
property values and increase traffic. She stated that there is only one
tennis court and one exercise room currently; that two pools are proposed
in the new complex; that there is a possibility of maintenance fees being
increased; that an explanation should be given the residents for the
reasons for construction of one bedroom units instead of two; and that the
residents want to keep the complex nice.
Mary Minton, #113, 255 Caballeros , stated that she bought her unit five
months ago and is very disappointed at the new proposal ; that homeowner
associations are difficult to form because there are so many renters and
with the new units it would be almost impossible; that the new complex
could not be governed; and would destroy what has been started; that there
is a safety factor with the additional units; and that the original butter-
fly design should be built.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
TTM 25112. (Continued)
Tom Rissuto, Villa Caballeros, stated that he was disappointed that the
residents had not been notified by the developer of the new project and
requested a continuance and direction by the City to the developer to meet
with the residents. He stated that he had difficulty understanding why the
residents were not on the tax rolls.
Mr. Gold (rebuttal ) stated that he did not know the residents were not
noticed and thought they were on the tax rolls; that there may have been a
communication problem because the former property manager was told about
the new proposal ; that the developer was not told the residents wanted a
meeting; that the map represents subsequent phasing; that the common area
was to be shared by everybody; that a new unforeseen project is not being
proposed; that he did not know what was promised the residents; that they
received a public report from the Department of Real Estate stating that
there was no guarantee that the final development would be what was pro-
posed originally; that he would be happy to continue the application for 30
days but that he did not want to be bound by a total agreement of the
residents; and that if an impasse is reached with the residents he would
like to be able to return to the City for processing.
There being no further appearances; Chairman declared the hearing closed.
Chairman asked the reasons the developer did not contact the existing home-
owners association.
Planning Director stated that the City has on occasion been contacted by
existing homeowners when there is a delay in phasing and revisions; that
there had been a similar situation at the Canyon Heights development on S.
Palm Canyon; that there is no requirement for a meeting or agreement with
the existing homeowners; that - the tax rolls could be twelve months old,
but are the latest available; that he had some questions about the notifi-
cation list; that he would like to see that all the property owners
involved are noticed and that staff would support a 30-day continuance for
notification of the complete property owners list.
Commissioner Whitney stated that she did not have a report that indicated a
change in the size of the units.
Planner stated that the units were addressed when the project was approved
and that the map is a subdivision map for condominium purposes.
Commissioner Dotson stated that he understood the reasons about the notifi-
cation because it is sometimes difficult on Indian land; and that he appre-
ciated the fact that the applicants are willing to delay the project, but
that he did not understand why the north half of the final map was
recorded.
Planning Director stated that it is legal to record a final map on a phased
project and that phasing is indicated in the recording by -1, -2, etc.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
TTM 25112. (Continued)
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Commissioner Dotson stated that the subject proposal is a separate map and
a different project and that map approval does not change the architectural
approval which was for a specific type of unit.
Planning Director replied that the project was revised to meet market con-
ditions and was approved; and that the subject map is a condominium map for
the south half of the project which is somewhat different from the north
phase.
Commissioner Dotson stated that the architectural approval items are com-
pleted; and there is now no addressing of the number of units.
Commissioner Whitney asked about the approval of the architecture. Planner
stated that the architectural approval was given in August by the Commis-
sion for the south half of the project; and that the map is a public
hearing on the expansion of that phase.
Chairman stated that the overall design was approved a long time ago.
Planning Director stated that public hearings are not required on archi-
tectural approval cases, but that a map is; and that that is the point at
which the public hearing comes into play.
Commissioner Olsen stated that perhaps the system is faulty and if there is
an original map, which is phased, residents probably should be notified at
the point action will be taken. He asked for direction from the Assistant
City Attorney.
Assistant City Attorney stated that a tentative map was approved for the
entire project which included built units and those intended to be built;
that Phase 1 was developed on the north site of the center line and Phase 2
is proposed on the southern half; that Phase 1 has been finaled pursuant to
the phasing scenario and rather than finaling Phase 2, the developers
decided to amend the map, but in so doing they are really re-subdividing
Phase 2 so that a new map has been submitted for that portion of it.
Commissioner Olsen asked the reasons for architectural approval taking
place before the amended map was approved.
Assistant City Attorney stated that the amended map is coming before the
Commission presently.
Commissioner Olsen commented that the process should be reversed.
Assistant City Attorney stated that there was no way of knowing that a new
map was being submitted.
Commissioner Hough stated that perhaps the process should be reviewed at a
study session.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
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TTM 25112. (Continued)
M/S/C (Hough/Whitney; Mills absent) continuing the application to December
13.
TRIBAL COUNCIL COMMENTS
After consideration of the recommendations of the Indian Planning Commis-
sion, the Tribal Council took the following actions:
1. Concurred with the findings and conditions outlined in City Planning
Staff report dated October 25, 1989.
2. Approved TTM 25112 for condominium purposes subject to the conditions
referred to above.
3. Requested that further processing of this case be continued pending
the applicant's payment of the Tribal Land Use Fee per Tribal
Resolution No. 24-86.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - None.
ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
CASE ' 3.0584 (MINOR). Application by CURTIS SHUPE for Sommerset Springs for
architectural approval of new entry gates at an existing condominium com-
plex, 2601 Broadmoor Drive, R-3 Zone, Section 29.
Assistant Planning Director stated that the AAC reviewed the new plan and
approved it based on design of the entry only, but that there are land use
issues involved - reduction in required parking overall and also reduction
in the number of covered parking. He stated that 10�underparking can
sometimes be approved through an AMM procedure, but staff has never allowed
a reduction in covered parking; that the applicants feel that they have a
unique situation; that carports are constructed in certain areas and
parking inboard all the way around; that the proposal is for a main entry
with a turnaround which involves the loss of three covered parking spaces
and one uncovered space to allow for a sliding gate, fountain and decora-
tive paving; that the other gates proposed would be residential with no
guest access; that the proposal is also for the removal of two parking
spaces for two trash enclosures; that the number of required spaces is at
the minimum allowed; and that there are no grounds for an AMM or for a
variance.
Commissioner Olsen asked if some of the residents park on the street.
October 25, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 16
ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.0584 (MINOR). (Continued)
Assistant Planning Director stated that he has never seen cars parked on
the street.
Curtis Shupe, project architect, 35325 Date Palm Drive, Cathedral City,
stated that the AAC liked the solution; that four covered and four
uncovered spaces will be removed which is only 5% of the total ; and covered
parking is reduced from 90 to 86; that there is parking on the perimeter
and enough uncovered parking; and that some of the uncovered parking space
are not being used.
Commissioner Dotson asked if the parking were assigned.
Mr. Shupe replied that the parking is not assigned in the complex and that
parking spaces on the perimeter cannot be covered because they would be in
the setbacks which would be prohibited.
Planning Director stated that an AMM cannot be approved because there are
no grounds since the lot is not substandard.
Richard Duffy, 1729 E. Palm Canyon, project manager, stated that the
management has tried to assign parking for years but has met resistance
from the homeowners; that the thirteen spaces on Gene Autry Trail are never
used; that the residents feel that the parking design is unfair; that
assigned parking is not part of the CC&R's and is the reason that the loss
of four spaces which will not make a difference; that the money is avail-
able; that the entry gates are for protection, enhancement and upgrade of
the property; and that the residents want to complete the project and need
the variance.
Chairman asked Planning Director to explain the AMM requirements.
Planning Director replied that the AMM does not allow reduction of covered
parking but has an allowance of reduction of parking spaces overall ; that a
variance is allowable with Commission action; that the on-site turnaround
could be eliminated and the gates placed at the present entry point; that
the removal of the turnaround would force cars to back onto Waverly Drive
which is a collector street; and that if the gates were developed within
the entry structure no spaces would be lost. He stated that staff might be
able to solve the problem. and: that there would not be an overall
problem of lack of parking but there is no ability for staff to reduce the
covered parking and that sooner or later questions will be asked about the
authority of removing the spaces.
Commissioner Dotson asked the reasons for removal of the parking on the
west side, but not anywhere else.
Planning Director replied that the setbacks determine whether or not
parking can be eliminated.
Commissioner Dotson asked about hinged gates that lift up instead of
sliders in order to save space.
October 25, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 17
ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.0584 (MINOR). (Continued)
Mr. Duffy replied that he investigated the hinged gate, but felt that it
was dangerous.
Chairman suggested continuance for a design solution and stated that a pre-
cedent would be set if approval of the present design were given.
M/S/C (Olsen/Edgmon; Mills absent) continuing application to November 8.
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
CASE 3.960. Application by the PALM SPRINGS MALL for architectural approval of
exterior color revisions for a community shopping center on Farrell Drive
between Tahquitz-McCallum Way/Baristo Road, CSC Zone, Section 13.
Planner Goodwin stated that the trim colors will be returned to the Commis-
sion; that the proposal presently is showing only the two colors used on
the Buffums building; and that screening in a peach color will hide the air
conditioning equipment.
Planning Director stated that the AAC (not the applicant) suggested bolder
trim colors and that Buffums is painted the new colors.
M/S/C (Hough/Whitney; Mills absent) approving the new color scheme (peach
and terracotta) as submitted with additional study of accent colors.
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
CASE 3.0473. Application by KATHE POLOS for architectural approval of a
restaurant on S. Palm Canyon Drive between Mesquite Avenue/Sunny Dunes
Road, W-C-1 Zone, Section 22.
(Commission response to written comments on draft Negative Declaration; no
comments received; action on environmental assessment/initial study only.)
Planning Director explained that the order to file a negative declaration
is a housekeeping item to complete the architectural approval application
and that no comments have been received on the Notice of Preparation which
was published in the newspaper.
M/S/C (Olsen/Dotson; Mills absent) ordering the filing of a Negative
Declaration.
October 25, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 18
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Continued)
CASE 3.0557 (MINOR) . Request by WINNERS for reconsideration of Commission denial
of wrought iron grillwork and gated entry at 238 N. Palm Canyon Drive, C-B-
D Zone, Section 15.
Planning Director stated that the request is not technically a reconsidera-
tion but a re-request for approval of the Winners grillwork which was
installed during Easter Week for control of the restaurant; that the owner
had discussed the installation with an AAC member regarding staff approval
but installed the grillwork without any permit or approval ; that the City
denied the application for architectural approval ; and that staff recom-
mends a denial without prejudice so the applicant can submit a revised
application without a fee.
Commissioner Olsen stated that the grillwork is inappropriate for the down-
town.
Gary Vess, 1457 Riverside Drive, stated that the grillwork is to secure the
property to eliminate rowdiness and to gain control ; that staff has been
asked about what can be done; that glass cannot be installed; that the
grillwork color can be changed to make it more attractive; that the Police
Department likes the wrought iron; and that the design is fashioned after
existing wrought iron in the downtown. He requested information on the
denial regarding whether or not it is the wrought iron or the color and
stated that there is wrought iron other places downtown. He asked for
suggestions.
Commissioner Olsen stated that the AAC addressed the problem as being the
style of wrought iron and the color; and that a redesign of the wrought
iron can be submitted in a different color without fees.
Mr. Vess stated that litigation is being pursued on the grillwork and
removing it exposes seating and audio visual equipment to the street and
Leo Miller Associates has been retained to design something for the area.
He stated that removal has to be deferred until litigation is resolved.
Chairman stated that it is the applicant's choice on whether or not the
area should be secured; and that the AAC is opposed to the color and design
of the wrought iron. He suggested that the applicant present a different
way of securing the area.
Planning Director stated that he would discuss the problem with the appli-
cant and with an architect; and that perhaps the Redevelopment Agency could
to fund a new design and that there is no approval of the seating or out-
side activities which will also be discussed with the applicant.
Assistant City Attorney stated that a code enforcement action is being pro-
secuted by the City Attorney's Office on the existing wrought iron.
Commissioner Whitney asked if the applicant could have a time period before
taking down the wrought iron.
October 25, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 19
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Continued)
CASE 3.0557 (MINOR) . (Continued)
Assistant City Attorney stated that he was not directly involved with the
case; that the prosecution was delayed for presentation by the applicant
before the Commission; and that if the application is denied, the wrought
iron will be removed immediately because the court order exists and failure
to comply will result in contempt of court and penalities.
Commissioner Dotson asked if glass could be used; stated that the building
looks worse all the time; and that the architecture is being lost. He
asked if the seating has been calculated in order that in-lieu fees are
paid.
Planning Director stated that no seating had been calculated and that the
outdoor use would be required to have a land-use permit and that he did not
know the number of seats in the establishment. He stated that seating is
calculated on the number of seats in the interior and that the former "Ruby
Dunes" restaurant on the location was built to the property line and an
outdoor dining area was made in a remodel . He stated that the CBD Zone
requires a 10 ft. setback area across the front which cannot be enclosed
because it is open space/indoor outdoor area although grillwork might not
be construed as an enclosure.
Commissioner Dotson stated that if a person cannot progress through an
area, it is an enclosure.
Planning Director stated that it is a technical matter because a person
also cannot walk across a planter.
M/S/C (Olsen/Dotson; Mills absent) denying the application without
prejudice.
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS. Update of City Council actions.
E1 Cielo/Ramon Project. Approved as submitted after discussion on the
number of driveways.
San Rafael Street Name Change. Not approved. San Rafael name will remain.
General Plan Meetings. Underway. Small attendance but interesting discus-
sions. Word will be gotten out by contacting neighborhood groups for
future meetings.
October 25, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 20
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Continued)
COMMISSION/STAFF REPORTS OR REQUESTS.
Ocotillo Lodge-Orange Awning. Repaint approved at staff level but no
orange awning or accent colors approved. Trim colors approved in dark
burgundy and light mauve. Staff will investigate.
Construction Wall at the Ho - Desert Fashion Plaza. Staff will review
ecause Hop application has not proceeded but the construction wall
remains.
Canopy at the Old DMV Building on El Cielo. Illegal installation of canopy
given to code enforcement.
Farrell Drive Curve. Poor design but cannot be restriped because the
striping would not follow the curve. Guardrails have been installed and
signalization at Tachevah to slow cars down and closing off Tamarisk west
of Farrell should help.
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ADDED STARTERS. (Determination of eligibility for consideration.)
None.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, Chairman adjourned the meeting at
4:30 p.m.
PLANNING DIRECTOR
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
Council Chamber, City Hall
November 8, 1989
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1989 - 1990
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to Date
Larry Lapham, Chairman X 9 0
Gary Olsen - 8 1
Barbara Whitney X 9 0
Brent Hough X 5 4
Martha Edgmon X 9 0
Chris Mills X 9 0
Michael Dotson X 9 0
Staff Present
Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director
Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney
Douglas Evans , Planner
Debra Goodwin, Planner
Sherri Abbas , Planner
Architectural Advisory Committee - November 6,'1989
Brent Hough, Chairman
William Johnson
Will Kleindienst
Reuel Young
Tom Doczi
Mike Buccino
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
M/S/C (Hough/Dotson; Olsen absent) approving minutes of October 25, 1989 as
submitted.
REPORT OF POSTING AGENDA:
The November 8, 1989 agenda was available for public access at the City Hall
exterior bulletin board and the Planning Division Counter by 1:30 p.m. , Friday,
November 3, 1989.