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Council Chamber, City Hall
September 13, 1989
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1989 - 1990
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to Date
Larry Lapham, Chairman X 5 0
Gary Olsen X 5 0
Barbara Whitney X 5 0
Brent Hough - 1 4
Martha Edgmon X 5 0
Chris Mills X 5 0
Michael Dotson X 5 0
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Staff Present
j Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director
Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney
Debra Goodwin, Planner
Sherri Abbas, Planner
Dave Forcucci , Planner
Dean Lewis, Traffic Engineer
Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee - September 11, 1989
Larry Lapham, Acting Chairman Absent: Brent Hough, Chairman
William Johnson Tom Doczi
Will Kleindienst Mike Buccino
Reuel Young
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
M/S/C (Olsen/Dotson; Hough absent) approving minutes of August 23, 1989 with the
following corrections:
CASE 5.0421-PD-185 (Desert Hospital expansion) .
Page 12. Second Paragraph. Change ' sign" to "site" .
Page 17. First paragraph. Change "curb" to "curve" .
Commissioner Dotson stated that he was surprised at the finding that the
visual impact of the highrise portions is not significant even with reduced
setbacks since he had asked for a section on the massing because he felt
that massing needed to be addressed. Planning Director stated the finding
was not altered from the staff report.
REPORT OF POSTING AGENDA:
The September 13, 1989 agenda was available for public access at the City Hall
exterior bulletin board and the Planning Division Counter by 5:00 p.m. , Friday,
September 8, 1989.
September 13, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 2
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CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
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Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
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M/S/C (Olsen/Whitney; Hough absent) taking the following actions:
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CASE 3.0547. Application by GEORGIO HERRERA for architectural approval of land-
scape plans and a wall for a single-family residence on Chino Canyon Drive,
R-1-A Zone, Section 3.
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Restudy noting the following:
1. Approved subject to staff review of landscaping.
2. Mechanical Equipment and Roofing Changes: Approved as revised with
the condition that mechanical screening from above not be required.
CASE -3.0596. Application by ANGELVIEW CRIPPLED CHILDREN'S FOUNDATION for archi-
tectural approval of a single-family residence for 6 disabled individuals
at 2758 Scotia Lane, R-1-C Zone, Section 1.
Approved subject to the following conditions:
1. That trees be added in the front yard.
2. That the windows on the north and south elevations be multi-paned,
French windows to match the windows on the east and west elevations.
3. That a 30" wall be added in the front along the Vista Chino and
Scotia Lane elevations.
September 13, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 3
CONSENT AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.0630. Application by A.R. KEEBLE for architectural approval of revised
elevations for a general office/warehouse building on Valdivia Way, M-I-P
Zone, Section 7.
Restudy noting the following:
1. That the front elevation is weak.
2. That the height difference in the openings be resolved.
3. That the compressors be relocated preferably to the roof and that the
parapet screening be adequate.
SIGN APPLICATION (CONTINUED) . Application by IMPERIAL SIGN COMPANY for archi-
tectural approval of a gas rate sign for PVO Econo Gas Station, 116 N.
Sunrise Way, C-1-AA Zone, Section 13.
Approved subject to the following conditions:
1. That the cabinet be dark brown.
2. That the sign background be Ivory.
3. That the copy be dark brown.
4. That block be built up to bottom of sign with battered cabinet sides.
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CONSENT AGENDA (Continued)
SIGN APPLICATION. Application by STANFORD SIGNS for architectural approval of a
new main identification sign for the Travel Lodge, 333 E. Palm Canyon
Drive, R-3 Zone, Section 26.
Approved subject to the following conditions:
1. That the white background be changed to ivory.
2. That block work surrounding the sign cabinet be lowered.
CASE j.0614. Application by MIKE GILBERT for architectural approval of revised
landscape plans for a single-family hillside residence on Andreas Hills
Drive, R-1-C Zone, Section 1.
Approved as submitted.
CASE 5.0504-PD-199. Application by M.H. SHASHANI for architectural approval of
final development plans for a planned development district to allow con-
struction of a 66-unit apartment complex including density bonus on N.
Indian Avenue between San Rafael Road/Simms Road, R-2 Zone, Section 2.
Approved subject to the following conditions:
1. That all lighting fixtures except the landscaping lights be
restudied.
2. That painted metal flashing on the parapet is approved as submitted.
Abstentions: Whitney/Lapham.
September 13, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 5
CONSENT AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.0640 (MINOR). Application by JOHN RUPE for architectural approval of a
revised exterior color for a hillside, single-family residence at 302
Camino Alturas, R-1-B Zone, Section 27.
Approved as submitted.
CASE 5.0308-PD-155. Request for by CURT DUNHAM for a twelve-month time extension
for a Planned Development District to allow development of single-family
hillside lots for sales purposes near South Palm Canyon Drive between
Cahuilla Hills Drive/Murray Canyon Drive, R-2/0-20 Zones (I .L.) , Section
34.
Approved a 12-month time extension subject to all original conditions of
approval . New expiration date will be June 27, 1990.
TRIBAL COUNCIL COMMENTS
After consideration of the recommendations of the Indian Planning Commis-
sion, the Tribal Council recommended that the request for a one-year time
extension on PD-155 be approved, subject to previous conditions of
approval .
September 13, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 6
CONSENT AGENDA (Continued)
ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
CASE 3.0580. Application by JOHN ARGYROS for architectural approval of land-
scape, irrigation and exterior lighting plans for restaurant on Palm Canyon
Drive between E1 Alameda/Tachevah Drive, C-1 Zone, Section 10.
Planning Director explained that the item was removed from the consent
action agenda because staff wanted to discuss screening of roof equipment
from all vantage points as required in the Zoning Ordinance; that the
equipment on the subject restaurant can be seen from two existing prop-
erties and possibly future property development; that the issue could be
reviewed later but it is preferable for the design to be done now and that
the AAC does not like the ordinance and recommended that the equipment
remain unscreened.
Planner (Goodwin) explained the project and stated that the parapet
would not screen the equipment from all vantage points.
Planning Director explained that if the Commission does not support this
type of screening, the ordinance should be changed.
Chairman stated that the architects on the AAC felt that the equipment has
to breath; that enclosure of the equipment causes an impractical imposition
on it; and that if covered venting is required, the result will be a
massive system on the roof.
Planning Director stated that he had seen open metal grids or grills on
installations in other cities which did not enclose the equipment but
removed its ugly visual impact; that there is an unaesthetic view of
rooftop equipment from the Wyndham Hotel , Maxim's and the Marquis; and that
the alternative discussed with the AAC was that if the equipment were
organized, it could be painted out which is an acceptable way of hiding it
and is the rationale for allowing unscreened equipment, not because of lack
of expertise in designing it.
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ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.0580. (Continued)
Commissioner Mills stated that organizing equipment neatly and painting it
out is an acceptable means of camouflage; that covered equipment is a
problem for maintenance whether or not the screen structure is removable;
that mechanical equipment is not necessarily unsightly if the roof plan and
equipment are thought out in advance; that a poorly designed system exists
on the roof of the Desert Fashion Plaza, which the owner has been trying to
camouflage ever since it was built; that roof equipment should be screened
from eye level rather than from 1/4 mile which is the present requirement;
and that in the subject case it could be addressed in working drawings. He
stated that the ordinance would not have to be changed since there is an
alternative already in it.
Planning Director stated that if the Commission is not opposed to
unscreened equipment, the alternative should be deleted and screening at
eye level be reinstituted although there will be an unaesthethic view from
above; and that staff is having to address mechanical screening problems
after the fact which is difficult.
Commissioner Olsen requested that the project architect state his opinion.
James Cioffi , 700 E. Tahquitz Way, project architect, stated that there are
pros and cons to the issue; that a roof plan will be submitted for review
in working drawings; that the equipment well is completely full of equip-
ment; that the plan is a typical roof plan for a restaurant; that the
equipment will not work properly with a screen unless it is a large one-
story structure; that cooling towers are not practical on a small building;
and that there is a visual problem but in the case of a restaurant, the
equipment is impossible to screen from above.
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ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.0580. (Continued)
Chairman stated that he had to abstain on the case itself but had been part
of the Commission discussion on the Zoning Ordinance changes.
Commissioner Mills stated that with the alternative the ordinance is
acceptable, but is objectionable when it requires screening from above and
should be rewritten.
M/S/C (Mills/Olsen; Hough absent) to rewrite the ordinance regarding
screening of roof mechanical equipment to require the equipment to be
screened at eye level but not screened from above.
M/S/C (Mills/Whitney; Hough absent; Lapham abstained) approving landscape,
irrigation, and exterior lighting plans subject to the following condi-
tions:
1. That staff review the landscaping plans.
2. That roof revisions are approved as requested but no mechanical
equipment screening is required from above.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
CASE 5.0515-CUP. Application by DESIGN ASSOCIATES for a conditional use permit
to allow auto retail agencies in a commercial building on E1 Cielo Road
between E. Tahquitz-McCallum Way/Ramon Road, PD-193, Section 18.
(This action is categorically exempt from Environmental assessment per CEQA
guidelines.)
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0515-CUP. (Continued)
Chairman abstained; Vice-Chairman presided.
Planner (Forcucci ) stated that the staff originally recommended approval
but that there had been concerns raised on the part of the Director of
Aviation and the Director of Community Development that car leasing
agencies only be approved in zones specifically allowing the use; and that
the applicant requested continuance because of these concerns. He
presented the staff report, and stated that the parking will have 22
spaces; that the applicants will be required to have an outside maintenance
facility for the vehicles; that office space will also be included in the
building; and that the number of parking spaces required depends on the
size of the rental car operation, and that the 12 spaces that are part of
the acceptable exemption in Paragraph 6 din ethen sW tion to the required
parking.
Commissioner Olsen commended that the use is primarily office space and
that the companies do not have an operating agreement with the airport.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
Bernie Crawford, 1729 E. Palm Canyon, the applicant, stated that he was at
a loss over the concerns since he thought the recommendation was for
approval ; that he had tried to get an appointment with the Director of
Aviation for 10 days but could not; and that the Aviation Director and
Director of Community Development decided that they were opposed. He
requested a continuance to resolve the problems and stated that Thrifty Car
Rental and Executive Car Rental agency representatives were in the audience
to. answer questions about specific operations. He stated that the
conditions reached with the applicants do not make the use detrimental ;
that revenue is derived from the car rentals and airport pick-up; that the
City has no more car rental space available at the airport; and that he
could not understand why the City is opposed to the use.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0515-CUP. (Continued)
Margaret Stoddard, 401 S. E1 Cielo, La Palme condominium complex, stated
that she is one of 220 condominium owners who live opposite the proposed
rental agency complex; that the amount of traffic caused by car rentals
would be much more than the street can handle; that the property owners
thought that a restaurant and small shops would be in the complex; that six
cars on site will not be enough; that off-site maintenance and shuttle
service indicates that that the use is in the wrong zone; that the use
would cause more cars and traffic; that the driveway of the building is
directly opposite La Palme; and that a barrier might have to be requested
by the property owners to avoid conflicts in egress and ingress.
There being no further appearances; Chairman declared the hearing closed.
Planning Director explained that the Director of Aviation wants to be on
record as opposed to allowing car rentals in zones not normally allowing
the use because of parking problems which is also the sentiment of the
Director of Community Development; and that a continuance is recommended so
that the concerns can be resolved.
Commissioner Olsen stated that there is no one in the City who has had more
experience in dealing with rental agencies than the Director of Aviation
and his concerns should be taken into consideration.
M/S/C (Whitney/Edgmon; Hough absent; Mills/Lapham abstained) continuing the
application to September 27.
NB: A petition signed by 92 property owners in La Palme in opposition to
the rental car agency use is on file in the Planning Division Office.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0523-CUP. Application by KEHILLAT HA'MIDBAR for a conditional use permit
to establish a synagogue in an existing building at 1068 N. Palm Canyon
Drive, C-1 Zone, Section 10.
(This action is categorically exempt from Environmental assessment per CEQA
guidelines.)
Planner (Goodwin) gave the report and stated that there had been two
favorable responses and a phone call from a property owner who is not in
opposition but did not want church parking in front of his building; that
the N. Palm Canyon Project Area Committee supports the use provided the
appearance of the storefront is compatible with the other buildings in the
area; and that the CUP is to be reviewed after a year to determine whether
the use is compatible with the surrounding area.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
Larry Pitts, president of the synagogue, stated that he and the Rabbi were
present to answer questions.
Louise Hampton, 547 Phillips Road, representing the landlord, stated that
the owner has had several tenants previously and is excited about the
synagogue as tenants.
Vivian Grow, property owner across the street, stated that a medical office
is across the street; that she did not wish to speak in opposition to the
project but was concerned about parking because the medical building lot
only has space for 20 cars but everyone uses the lot even though there is a
sign stating that it is for patients only; that the synagogue is only being
allowed 10 parking spaces which is not logical if it is a successful
synagogue; that Sorrentino's Restaurant has the only other parking in the
area and may have concerns also about the parking; and that another parking
area should be chosen for the synagogue.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0523-CUP. (Continued)
Chairman asked about the hours of the services.
Mr. Pitts explained that services will be held on Friday evenings, Saturday
mornings and a few additional holy days during the year; that the members
are not permitted to drive on holy days or on the Sabbath; that there is a
lot behind the building for parking; that Warner Cable will allow the use
when the facility is not being used by its employees; that there may be
evening and Saturday morning classes with small numbers of people; and that
evening services are after office hours.
Planning Director stated that required parking is based on seating; that 30
people could be allowed with 10 parking spaces; that the number of people
could be limited by the Commission; that the parking will be in off hours
from that of Warner Cable; and that with the Warner Cable spaces, which
total 26, 78 synagogue members can be allowed.
There being no further appearances; Chairman declared the hearing closed.
Planning Director stated that as a condition of approval the parking lot
should meet ordinance requirements for night lighting since they plan night
activities.
Vivian Grow (second appearance) stated that the synagogue will have classes
that may bring more cars; that parking will be a problem; and that a 10 car
lot is not enough.
Commissioner Olsen commented that he had concerns about parking problems in
the area in general , although he understood the intent of the parking
arrangement; that the CUP should be reviewed in a year to determine whether
or not the synagogue has outgrown its facility and the parking is therefore
deficient; and that a written agreement should be required with Warner
Cable for use of its spaces during certain hours.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0523-CUP. (Continued)
Chairman asked if a CUP could be reviewed at any time.
Assistant City Attorney stated that a CUP can be reviewed if the conditions
are being violated but otherwise it is not revokable unless it it was a
condition that/was subject to review.
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Commissioner Dotson stated that there should be a certain review time
instead of empirical '; review.
Planning Director stated that a certain review period could be a condition
but that in a previous case involving an orthodox synagogue'sparking, the
time period was indefinite and there have been no problems; and that the
requirement for a review at a time when there is a problem is already
included in the conditions.
M/S/C (Edgmon/Whitney; Hough absent) approving CUP 5.0523 based on the
following findings and subject to the following conditions:
Findings:
1. That a conditional use permit application for a synagogue in a C-1
zone is authorized by the Zoning Ordinance.
2. That the site is adequate in size and shape to accommodate the pro-
posed use.
3. That the proposed church use is necessary for the community and is
not detrimental to the general public health, safety or welfare.
4. That North Palm Canyon Drive and Indian Avenue are adequately
designed to accommodate any traffic generated by this project.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0523-CUP. (Continued)
Conditions•
1. That the Planning Commission may at any time require additional
parking based on the empirical needs of the project.
2. That an agreement with Warner Cable T.V. for use of the lot for
parking during certain hours be formulated.
3. That the parking lot behind the building (synagogue) meet night
lighting standards of the Zoning Ordinance.
4. That the conditional use permit be reviewed for parking sufficiency
at the end of a year.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - None.
ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
CASE 3.0565-HOA (MINOR) . Request by ST. TROPEZ VILLAS HOA for reconsideration of
denial of landscape modifications for a condominium complex on Alejo Road
between Alvarado/El Segundo Roads, R-G-A-8 Zone (I.L. ) , Section 14.
Planner (Abbas) stated that the request for reconsideration is the third or
fourth one received from the homeowners association at San Tropez Villas;
that the Commission has felt that removal of the newly planted Queen Palms
and screening with hedges or trees would be the best solution for screening
from the Deauville condominiums; that a letter has been
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ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.0565-HOA (MINOR) . (Continued)
received from the Deauville Homeowners Association stating that the addi-
tion of the Queen Palms is an added benefit. She stated that the Queen
Palms do not provide screening.
Chairman stated that both homeowners associations seem to approve the Queen
Palms and have to live with it.
Planner stated that trees on the south side of the San Tropez Villas
property have been removed; and Queen Palms were planted and that the trees
on the inside of the complex are mature and attractive and the addition of
the Queen Palms enhances the appearance.
Commissioner Mills stated that just because the homeowners association
thinks the Queen Palms are acceptable does not mean that the landscaping is
good because it is not.
Commissioner Whitney asked if Commissioner Mills meant that the letter
received from the homeowners association did not represent the people
living in Deauville.
Commissioner Mills stated that it may not be representative of the units
affected.
Commissioner Dotson asked about another solution to the regimented sterile
Queen Palms, perhaps using existing trees and addition of other materials.
Planner stated that the planter is only 3 ft. wide and would require a
professional to determine what would grow in this narrow space.
M/S/C (Whitney/Edgmon; Olsen abstained; Hough absent; Mills/Dotson dis-
sented) approving the existing Queen Palms landscaping as planted on the
south edge of the property between St. Tropez Villas and the Deauville
condominiums.
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ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.0660 (MINOR) . Application by PHILLIP GOLLOB for architectural approval of
revised elevations and bedroom additions for a non-conforming apartment
building at 2383 Racquet Club Road, R-1-C Zone, Section 1.
Planning Director stated that the application was removed from the consent
action agenda because of the issue of expansion even in a minor sense of a
non-conforming use; that the property was built and conforming in the 50's
and became non-conforming in the 70's when the City made the Zoning Map
consistent with the General Plan, and all of the multi-zoned properties on
Racquet Club, Vista Chino, and Sunrise were made R-1 which left 8 to 9
properties non-conforming and that these were allowed a 30 year
amortization period. He stated that the applicants could request rezoning
back to the original which would require a General Plan amendment or the
buildings could be razed and that staff recommends that the Commission
determine whether or not the use can be expanded as a non-conforming use
and also that the Commission make clear there is no extension of the use
past the year 2003 to amortize the expansion.
Planner (Abbas) stated that the applicants want to house lower income
seniors; and to meet HUD requirements two units have to be converted into a
one bedroom unit, and an additional bedroom added to an existing unit, and
a few minor upgrades/made he building.
Planning Director stated that the General Plan shows low density
residential (4/acre) and that the zoning is R-1-C.
Chairman stated that the request by staff is for the applicants to sign an
agreement that the upgrade not start a 30-year non-conforming use again.
Planner stated that she tried to encourage the AAC to give approval subject
to conditions instead of a restudy.
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ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.0660 (MINOR) . (Continued)
Planning Director noted that in working with the ordinance and trying to
analyze the relationship of the ordinance to the property as non-conforming, there
was a discussion with the City Attorney on whether or not there was a non-
conforming use or a non-conforming building. He stated that also discussed
were the types of residential use and that for example a duplex in a single-
family zone would be considered in his opinion as a non-conforming
building; that if the use is normal non-conforming the amortization period
is 10 years. He stated that the situation had not been addressed before
because it was his determination that residential uses in residential zones
were not non-conforming uses. He suggested a study session because all the
apartment buildings in Section 1 would be non-conforming at the present
time, and stated that in his opinion a residential use is a matter of
intensity and is a building conformity problem which would allow the longer
period of time.
Chairman asked if the staff recommendation on the subject project is an
amortization period ending in 2003.
Planning Director stated that the amortization would be on the building
non-conformity which would reaffirm what staff had been using as a policy
and that by the year 2003 the lot would have to be single-family resi-
dential , the ordinance changed, or the non-4conforming status extended
after a public hearing.
Wendell Veith, project architect, stated that at staff discussions he
thought that a new 30 year amortization period was being discussed because
14 years is not enough time to be economically feasible for refinancing.
He asked if there were any way that the amortization period over 30 years
could be begun again.
Planning Director replied that the ordinance allows for it by a public
hearing and the Commission has the authority to extend the time period
based on cause. He stated that he would not recommend changing the 30-year
amortization based on the proposed work on the project because it
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ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.0660 (MINOR) . (Continued)
would have to be a significant improvement to the property to extend the
time period.
Mr. Veith asked if the Commission would take action to restudy the appli-
cation and also if the acceptable.
concept is table.
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Commissioner Olsen stated that he had no problem with the use proposed.
Commissioner Mills asked if there were some way to adjust the parking since
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it is senior citizen , housing and also/a needs to improve the driveway
condition onto Racquet Club; and that deleting two parking spaces might
help.
Planning Director stated that the parking lot had not been reviewed but if
spaces were removed, a planned development district may be the appropriate
application but could not be approved because it is inconsistent with the
General Plan. He stated that staff would meet with the applicant within
the next few days.
Commissioner Dotson asked if the project were approved with a 14-year
amortization period would it be possible for the applicant to apply for an
extension.
Planning Director answered that the applicant could and that the Commission
can approve or deny the extension under a public hearing.
Mr. Veith stated that the parking and the driveway could be adjusted on the
plan.
M/S/C (Olsen/Whitney; Hough absent) approving the original amortization
period until the year 2003 and a restudy of the architecture noting the
following:
1. That glu-lam beams are suggested rather than rough sawn wood.
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ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.0660 (MINOR). (Continued)
2. That full columns be utilized at the gated entry.
3. That the angle of the columns be reduced.
4. That the parking be reworked to provide for increased landscaping.
CASE 5.0516-CUP. Application by ROESCH LINES, INC. for architectural approval
of revised elevations for an administrative office/vehicle cleaning/light
repair facility on Research Drive between computer Way/Farrell Drive, M-1-P
Zone, Section 12.
Planner (Abbas) explained that the staff worked with the single elevation
on the board and reduced copies at the AAC meeting although the full
elevations are now available.
Chairman stated that the AAC was concerned about the intersection of the
lower roof area and the higher roof area being in the same plane; that the
AAC recommended that the band of steel be raised up to the recess and made
a darker color; and that ribbing on the building was also discussed.
Commissioner Mills stated that M-1-P properties need a better appearance
than the subject proposal ; and that most of the buildings in the M-1-P have
established a good appearance. He stated that metal buildings can be used
if designed properly and that he knew the facility was utilitarian and
might not warrant the cost of a/diff y et of building (but that the
Commission does not deal with the financing of properties) ; and that the
area should maintain its integrity.
Chairman stated that the architecture of the building is acceptable, but it
is the wrong type of building (pre-fabricated) .
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ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 5.0516-CUP. (Continued)
M/S/C (Mills/Edgmon; Hough absent) for a restudy noting that the building
should have a more custom appearance and be more compatible with the
buildings in the M-1-P Zone.
CASE 3.673 (MINOR) . Application by PALM SPRINGS SHADE CO. for McCormick Sandwich
Ship for architectural approval of an awning for a business at 233 S.
Indian Drive, CBD Zone, Section 15.
In reply to Commissioner Mills , Planner (Forcucci ) stated that the canopy
does not extend beyond the building and is centered.
M/S/C (Mills/Whitney; Hough absent) approving the application subject to
the following conditions:
1. That the installation point be lowered to a 7 ft. clearance.
2. That the sign be lowered proportionately.
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
LUP. Application by P.S. EXOTIC CAR AUCTIONS for a land use permit to allow a
collector car auction at the Radisson Hotel (northeast corner of Vista
Chino/N. Indian Avenue) , R-3 Zone, Section 2.
Planning Director stated that dates for the auction are October 14 and 15
at the Radisson Hotel which will house the participants; that the con-
ference center at the Radisson will be the meeting place; and that the
parking lot will be used for the storage of cars. He stated that staff can
support the necessary findings and that the hotel occupancy for the weekend
is 40% so there should not be overcrowding.
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MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Continued)
LUP. (Continued)
M/S/C (Whitney/Olsen; Hough absent) approving an LUP for a collector car
auction at the Radi sson Hotel on October 14 and 15 based on the following
findings :
1. That the site has adequate parking for the auction use.
2. That the facility is appropriate for the auction use.
Planning Director stated that staff will monitor the parking during the
auction.
CASE 20.114. Request by RIVERSIDE COUNTY PLANNING DEPARTMENT for review of a
Change of Zone from W-2 to M-M for property located between N. Indian
Avenue/Date Palm Drive, north of I-10 (outside of Sphere of Influence) .
Planning Director stated that this proposed change of zone is in the area
for the
proposed /Sphere-of-Influence that the Commission approved recently and sent
to City Council ; that the request is M-M (Medium manufacturing); and that
staff recommends that a full EIR be prepared on the issues of traffic, air
quality, public services (police and fire, particularly) , and housing. He
stated that the list of uses allowed is fairly intense and would not be
allowed in Palm Springs in the most intense industrial zone.
M/S/C (Dotson/Olsen; Hough absent) recommending to Riverside County
Planning that an EIR be prepared on the impacts to traffic, air quality,
public services and housing of the types of uses proposed.
CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS. Update of City Council actions.
September 13, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 22
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Continued)
- Design Review Process. Council has again requested more Commission input
on the architectural review process which will be an agenda item on the
Planning Commission study session of September 20. The AAC will be
invited.
DISCUSSION. Planning Commission discussion of request by PALM SPRINGS CHECK
CASHING for a check cashing service at 1063 N. Palm Canyon Drive, C-1 Zone,
Section 10.
Planning Director stated that because of the location the item should be
referred to the North PAC for its input; that there is no check cashing
definition in the Zoning Ordinance unless its considered a banking service;
that the C-1 Zone is retail business and the list of uses allowed is retail
`... oriented; that staff would not encourage the use although it has little
experience in this type of sebrvice and that the garishness of the business
signage in other cities may/because of lack of sign regulation. He stated
that approval could lead to a determination and the matter should first be
referred to the North PAC.
Commissioner Olsen stated that it is not something he would like to see on
the entrance way to the City.
David Weisbly, 2940 Alta Loma, the applicant, stated that he operates three
other facilities; that the signs in his business are not garish but are
lighted can signs saying "Check Cashing" ; that on some of the stores in Los
Angeles the signs are garish , and attract a less desirable clientele, but
that he has had no problems; that 62% of the population of the United
States does not have a checking account and need the service; that he
pursued the use at the request of Western Union; and that a check cashing
service cashes foreign currency, gives cash advances on credit
September 13, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 23
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Continued)
DISCUSSION. (Continued)
cards, sells money orders, and provides a service to tourists as well as
local citizens. He stated that his businesses are attractive and not
trashy and that the business would be an asset to the City.
Planning Director stated that Mr. Weisbly will be invited
to address the
j North PAC Committee; there is little parking for the building; eventually
parking may be removed from Palm Canyon; that the zone may be acceptable
but the building because of lack of parking may not be; and that the
application should be continued to October 11 so that the issue can be
reviewed by the North PAC. He stated that no action should be taken
because the item can be made a determination on the October 11 agenda so
that staff can review zones, situations, and circumstances for the use.
COMMISSION/STAFF REPORTS OR REQUESTS.
- Annual Dinner Meeting with Council . To be held on November 6 at 6:3I1 p.m.
in the Josuha Room at the Convention Center. The meeting will be a social
affair with other Commissions. (Work type meetings with Council will be
scheduled as necessary.)
ADDED STARTERS. (Determination of eligibility for consideration. )
None.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, Chairman adjourned the meeting at 3:40 p.m.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
Council Chamber, City Hall
September 27, 1989
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1989 - 1990
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to Date
Larry Lapham, Chairman X 0 6
Gary Olsen X 6 0
Barbara Whitney X
6 0
Brent Hough X 2 4
Martha Edgmon X 6 0
Chris Mills X 6 0
Michael Dotson X 6 0
Staff Present
Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director
Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney
Douglas Evans, Planner
Debra Goodwin, Planner
Sherri Abbas, Planner
Dave Forcucci , Planner
Dean Lewis, Traffic Engineer
Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee - September 25, 1989
Brent Hough, Chairman Absent: Mike Buccino
William Johnson
Will Kleindienst
Reuel Young
Tom Doczi
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
M/S/C (Edgmon/Dotson; Whitney, absent) approving mi �tes of September 13,W ^1`89
with the following corrections:
August 23, 1989 Meeting: Page 17. First paragraph. Change "curb" to "curve" .
Should refer to Case 5.0516-CUP.
September 13, 1989 Meeting: Page 5, Case 5.0308-PD-155. Add "Dotson abstained" .
Page 9, Case 5.0515-CUP; second paragraph change "outside maintenance" to "off-
site maintenance" .
REPORT OF POSTING AGENDA:
The September 27, 1989 agenda was available for public access at the City Hall
exterior bulletin board and the Planning Division Counter by 5:00 p.m. , Friday,
September 22, 1989.