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Council Chamber, City Hall
August 23, 1989
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1989 - 1990
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to Date
Larry Lapham, Chairman X 4 0
Gary Olsen X 4 0
Barbara Whitney X 4 0
Brent Hough - 1 3
Martha Edgmon X 4 0
Chris Mills X 4 0
Michael Dotson X 4 0
Staff Present
Marvin D . Roos , Planning Director
Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney
Douglas Evans , Planner
Debra Goodwin, Planner
Sherri Abbas , Planner
Dave Forcucci , Planner
Dean Lewis , Traffic Engineer
Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee - August 21, 1989
Larry Lapham, Acting Chairman Absent:
�.. William Johnson Brent Hough, Chairman
Tom Doczi Reuel YoOng
Will Kleindienst Mike Buccino
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Chairman called the meeting to order ,at 1 :30 ,p.m.
/Hough absent
M/S/C (Olsen/Edgmon) approving minutes of August 9, 1989 as submitted.
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ADMINISTRATIVE NOTE:
There were no Tribal Council comments.
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REPORT OF POSTING AGENDA:
The August 23, 1989 agenda was available for public access at the City Hall
exterior bulletin board and the Planning Division Counter by 1 :30 p.m., Friday,
August 18, 1989.
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CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
�. must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
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M/S/C (Olsen/Edgmon; Hough absent) taking the following actions:
CASE 5.0459-PD-193 (CONTINUED) . Application by KAPTUR/CIOFFI for architectural
approval of revised final development plans for a Planned Development
District to allow mixed use resort/commercial including retail office and
j food uses on E1 Cielo Road between Tahquitz-McCallum Way/Ramon Road, "P"
Zone, Section 18.
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Removed from the agenda pending receipt of revised plans .
SIGN APPLICATION. Application by IMPERIAL SIGN COMPANY for architectural
approval of of a gas rate sign for PVO Econo Gas Station, 116 N. Sunrise,
C-1-AA Zone Section 13.
Removed from the agenda at staffs request.
CASE 3.0207 MINOR. Application by CATHEDRAL CANYON COUNTRY CLUB for architec-
tural approval of revised site plans for a 70-unit condominium project
Calle at Tecuala/Calle Morelos , PD-86, Section 28. (Reference CASE 5.0065-
PD-86.)
Approved as submitted .
(Plot plan request only-to be reviewed as a tentative map in the future by
the Planning Commission.)
CASE 3.0543. Application by WILL KLEINDIENST for architectural approval of
colors for existing supermarket (Ralph's Market) at Smoketree Center, E.
Palm Canyon Drive , C-D-N Zone, Section 25. (Color swatch has been painted
on a wall .)
Approved as submitted .
CASE 3.0626. Application by ROGER MARTIN for architectural approval of revised
plans for a 4-unit apartment complex at 1965 S. Camino Real , R-2 Zone,
Section 26.
Approved subject to the following conditions:
1 . That the applicant submit final landscape plans including decking
landscaping and landscaping in front of trash enclosure.
2. That singular courtyard sidewalks be restudied.
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CONSENT AGENDA (Continued)
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CASE 3.0656. Application by HENRIETTA J. SHEA for architectural approval of
single-family residence at 1034 Andreas Palms Drive North , W-R-1-B Zone ,
Section 35.
Approved subject to the following conditions:
1 . That taller palms (Phoenix Robusta or Filifera) replace the dwarf
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palms , in groups of three , minimum of 6 to 12 ft . in height.
2. That cap design on chimney be submitted for staff approval .
3. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be implemented.
Abstention: Olsen.
TTM 18087. Request by ANDREAS HILLS, INC. for deletion of condition for archi-
tectural approval of residence in TTM 18087 on Bogert Trail , W-R-1-B Zone,
Sections 35 & 36.
Approved removal of architectural approval requirements for all lots except
those fronting on Bogert Trail and hillside plots .
SIGN APPLICATION. Application by COAST SIGN DISPLAYS for Republic Federal
Savings for architectural approval of new identification signs for savings
/loan company in Sunrise Square , northwest corner of Vista Chino/Sunrise
Way, CDN Zone, Section 2.
Approved subject to the following conditions:
1 . That new cabinets be recessed into the existing recessed area of
stained glass.
2. That cabinet display logo only.
3. That new lettering be adjacent to logo wall surface and similar to
existing signs .
CASE 3.0547. Application by ED ANDERHOLT for Georgio Herrera for architectural
approval of revised plans for grading, entryway, colors, and tile for
single-family residence on Chino Canyon Road, R-1-A Zone, Section 3.
Approved subject to condition: That final landscape plans be submitted with
wall plans.
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CONSENT AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 5.0413-CUP - TIME EXTENSION. Application by ROBERT NACKOWSKI for a retro-
active 24-month time extension for a CUP for tennis courts on San Joaquin
Drive between San Mateo Drive/Alondra Way, R-1-C Zone, Section 19.
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Approved subject to the original conditions of approval . New expiration
date will be October 8, 1990.
ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
SIGN APPLICATION (Continued). Application by IMPERIAL SIGN COMPANY for Swifty' s
for architectural approval of revised elements of a main identification
sign for restaurant (formerly Bakers Square), 411 E. Palm Canyon Drive , R-
3 Zone, Section 26.
Planner (Forcucci ) stated that the revised design for the metal cabinet was
that recommended by the AAC and the colors are matte black background with
Swifty' s in red and diner in white and a yellow lighting bolt; and that the
letters will be routed,, out.
In reply to Commissioner Dotson' s question, he stated that the Sign
Ordinance allows four colors on a sign.
Commissioner Dotson stated that although the sign has been approved it is
not up to standards and he could not support it.
M/S/C (Mills/Whitney; Dotson dissented; Hough absent) approving the appli-
cation subject to the following condition: That the sign be no less than
three feet below the roof line, and no less than four ft. from the corner of
the- wall .
CASE 3.0659 (MINOR). Application by FOOK KHEONG CHAN for architectural approval
of revisions to exterior and sign program for retail complex (former Copper
Square), 266 S. Palm Canyon Drive , CBD Zone, Section 15.
Planner (Forcucci ) stated that there are no structural changes; that the
design will give the former Copper Square color and life; that there are
two new tenants in the building which had been vacant; that the proposed
sculpture is hoped to be ai enti cement.
Commissioner Olsen requested that a condition be developed that if the
applicant wants to change the mobiles they can be changed without Commis-
sion review (review by staff or the Public Arts Commission only) .
Planner stated that the AAC liked the idea of the sculpture but wanted the
Commission to review the building colors.
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ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.0659 (MINOR). (Continued)
Roger Travis , 285 Leonard , project architect, stated that the building
faces the wrong way for both traffic and pedestrians and is on a corner
with little activity and is a dated dark brown color; that he had visited
Idyllwild recently and found a small successful mall resembling the subject
complex that was very successful because of kinetics, color, and outdoor
display of merchandise; that he wanted to have this feeling in the subject
complex; that the sculpture is a subdued color wi th a matte finish in
aluminium; that the sculpture is reduced in scale more than the renderings
show; that it will be maintained twice a year; and that it would bring
activity to the space. He stated that surface of the sculpture will be
spray painted over an acrylic primer.
Commissioner Whitney stated that she thought the sculpture was attrac-
tive.
M/S/C (Olsen/Whitney; Hough absent) approving the application subject to
the following conditions:
1 . That the walls be white.
2. That the columns and beams be a different lighter color. Submit
samples.
3. That the artwork and signs are approved .
4. That the colors be in a subdued color palette that was shown at the
Planning Commission meeting of August 23.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
CASE 5.0421-PD-0185 (Revised) CONTINUED. Application by DESERT HOSPITAL for
revised Planned Development District in lieu of a Change of Zone for a
hospital master plan and expansion and including highrise structures ,
parking, and a helicopter pad (on Tachevah Drive) for property on N. Indian
Avenue between Tachevah Drive/Paseo El Mirador, R-4 Zone, Section 11.
(Commission response to written comments on draft Negative Declaration;
action.)
Planning Director stated that the Planner assigned the case was not able to
attend the meeting; that the plan was . revised; that the project was pre-
viously given an Environmental Assessment but a new Environmental Assess-
ment was prepared although the impacts are similar except for location as
the original Planned Development District; that the Traffic Engineer
revised conditions on traffic signalization; that additional letters have
been received regarding expansion , notably one from a James Cheatham, an
experienced helicopter pilot who was asked to review the location of the
helipad by Shane Sales , who lives on Avenida Olivos behind the commercial
�,, buildings on Tachevah. He stated that Mr. Cheatham' s letter stated that
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0421-PD-0185 (Revised) CONTINUED. (Continued)
he feels that the location has problems because the surface level will not
be visible from most directions at night due to surrounding buildings; that
the location will be subject to turbulence; that the arrival route and
approach are impractical and were probably arrived at without pilot con-
sultation; that no minimum altitude has been established for the flight
over Indian Avenue for arrival ; that because of the steep angle or low
height over Indian the turn would be downwind which would be dangerous;
that procedures would not be complied with by pilots who will use their
best judgement, not the procedure on paper, when transporting a passenger;
that the flights will probably overfly other properties; that the close
proximity of the sidewalk and the streetis a hazard to the public because of
gravel and debris blown on pedestrians at head height; and there is some
danger to people in public areas although the 5.5' raised pad helps to
mitigate this problem . He stated that Mr. Cheatham suggested moving the
helipad to a rooftop becaus existing location is not the best.
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Planning Director stated that Mr. Cheatham has much background in the avia-
tion field; that staff is recommending a one-year review period for action
by the Commission and Council on whether or not there are impacts on the
neighborhood and the amount of usage; that the June 28, 1989 conditions
still apply; that the pad is for emergency trauma patients only which
should be an indication to the hospital , which will spend $100,000 on the
helipad , that they cannot abuse the use of the pad or it will be
terminated; that the flight pad has to be approved by the FAA; that the
guide slope would have to be determined by a body familiar with the types
of helicopters using the facility; and in reply to Chairman' s question,
that Mr. Cheatham is an aviation consultant hired by Shan Sales on Olivos;
that high-rise building and parking structures were other issues although
the helipad was the center of the issues in previous hearings . He stated
that the revised emergency service area was relocated away from Miraleste
and E1 Mirador which was the location on the original plan; that there is a
50 ft. setback on Tachevah; that trees would be removed for curb re-align-
ment (a General Plan requirement); that the Traffic Engineer has revised
conditions of installation of traffic signals (memo on file in the Planning
Division); that Tachevah has always been on the General Plan for 30 years
as a secondary thoroughfare and can service the traffic to the emergency
areas and that there is no impact on traffic other than what is there now.
He stated that the helipad can be terminated if it is not used the way it
is conditioned; and that there is 25 ft. to the parking structures as a new
condition. He stated that the nearest existing building to the helipad is
100 ft. to the edge of the pad; that he did not know how close future
buildings would be to the helipad and showed the location of the nursing
towers on the display. He stated next to the helipad is a two story
building.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
Mike Fontana , Vice-President in charge of planning for Desert Hospital ,
stated that he had no problem with restricting the use of the pad to emer-
gency and trauma use and no problems with Commission review after a year of
operation of the helipad (30 months from present date); that the condition
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued) „
CASE 5.0421-PD-0185 (Revised) CONTINUED. (Continued)
is fair; that the hospital will do a good job; that the hospital is in
agreement with the revised traffic requirements; that some conditions will
have to be deleted from the Development Committee Conditions since they
refer to the original Master Plan andno longer apply as follows:
Page 3, VIA MIRALESTE. Improvements related to the east side front lots:
(conditions 2, 4, 5, 6, 7) should be deleted since these lots have been
deleted from the Master Plan.
Page 5. CONDITIONS REGARDING SAFETY STREET LIGHTS. Originally adjacent to
the neighborhood should be deleted since they will be relocated because of
change of location in the emergency service area (conditions 2 a , b , c and
d) .
Conditions 4, 5 and 6. Signalization/Miraleste and Tachevah are now in
conflict with staff recommendations.
He stated that all other conditions are acceptable.
Dr. Pat Picchone, 968 Avenida Olivos , stated that the meeting was the third
that he had appeared in toprotest and that it seems not to be doing any good
because he always loses. He stated that the issue is the school zone; that
although Tachevah on the General Plan is supposed to service the traffic
generated it was not envisioned as an ambulance and emergency room route
and a place for a helipad and to hold auto ingresses and exits one-half
block from the school ; that the school children are in danger; the hospital
is being obstinate; that the hospital is purchasing Kirk Douglas' land.' to
the west across Indian and that the hospital should move emergency services
to Indian.
Rich Richman, , 1025 Olivos , 150 ft. from the helipad , stated that the heli-
pad would impact this area; that the children would be in danger; that
traffic now oh Tache-v`ah-.i s minimal ; that school children will walk to classes
on Tachevah and walk on field trips along Tachevah; that there is no
traffic on Olivos presently but there will be when the street exits into
the emergency area and the helipad; that the location for the helipad will
impact the neighborhood directly; that there was a special on T.V. recently
addressing emergency helicopters which showed the high accident rate among
these emergency aircraft; that most communities have curtailed helicopters
altogether because of accidents; that once the helipad is built it will
remain; that noise generation by helicopters is enormous even if on an
occassional basis; that the residents do not want the pad in their
neighborhood; that Desert Hospital has a full service airport in close
proximity (5 minutes away) by ambulance which most hospitals do not have;
that the helipad should be on Indian; that the emergency room entrance will
increase vehicle traffic dramatically on Tachevah since the street will be
widened; that traffic will travel on Olivos which will make the area a less
desirable place to live and dangerous for the residents including children;
that he could not understand why the hospital refuses to consider safety
issues in the plan because there are real children in the neighborhood and
;,.am-J,,magJ.n,ed number of hikers that the hospital said would benefit from
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CASE 5.0421-PD-0185 (Revised) CONTINUED. (Continued)
the helipad; that the children are owed more responsibility (The responsi-
bility should not be for an imagined person. )
Chairman stated that the ambulances now travel up Indian or down El
Mirador.
Chris Foster, 943 Olivos , stated that he was opposed to the helipad and
emergency room entrances; that the pad should be on a nursing tower; that
there could be daily landings; that the hospital promised no parking on
Tachevah but painted the curb gray to allow parking in one of its remodels;
that the trees should not be destroyed because they are historic; that the
situation will be dangerous for children walking on Tachevah Drive because
of emergency vehicles and cars; that Olivos is not suited for the traffic;
that Mr. Kliendienst who lives on El Mirador was pleased the emergency
service area was moved to Tachevah for good reason - because it was moved
away from his home on E1 Mirador; that El Mirador should not be closed;
that the emergency area should be moved to Indian; that hi s home was bui 1 t
in 1937 and he did not envision a branch of the airport in his neighbor-
hood .
Kip Lyons , 400 S. Farrell , attorney representing Shan Sales , stated that
his client continues to oppose the location of the emergency room and the
helipad; that Mr. Cheatham' s letter raised a number of questions which have
not been addressed such as the altitude of the approach on Indian; that the
higher altitude causes difficulty in making a 90 degree turn in a short
landing; the approach would be very steep; that a lower approach was more
practical but would be at a low altitude on Indian Avenue; that the
approach should be farther up on Indian so there would be a more gradual
flight path; that the pilots will not be using the plan because of safety
concerns; that the rotor dimensions of the largest helicopter (CH53 Marine
helicopter) are 40 ft. on each side which totals 80 ft. in diameter; that
the distance between the helipad and the building of 150 ft. is too narrow;
that the wind and turbulence of the blades are enormous and will raise dust
and that the flight path should be restudied now in the planning stage not
after the pad is built; that the pad would be difficult to move in a year;
that the facility should be planned ahead; that the flight plan is
impossible to use because of the north wind; that the future should be
planned for and changes made now; that Mr. Sales is concerned because of
the location of his house since a southeast fight path would put the heli-
copter directly over his house and the other homes in the area; that
environmental issues and safety should be reviewed; that the pad should be
farther north, not close to a residential area; that recently an emergency
helicopter crash in Oregon killed three people and such accidents should be
considered; that Mr. Sales is also concerned about the location of the
emergency room which/another site , such as Indian Avenue .
should have
Susan Picchione, 938 Olivos, a 15-year resident of the City, stated that
the neighbors promoted expansion of the hospital to the north because the
area was very run down at the time; the hospital plans to build emergency
services next to an older neighborhood which was built before the El
Mirador was built; that the emergency service area is too near a school ;
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CASE 5.0421-PD-0185 (Revised) CONTINUED. (Continued)
that additional traffic will be generated; that adding traffic would be
senseless; that Indian Avenue does not have a residential area; that the E1
Mirador Tower is gone and only a replica will be built; that the entrances
to the emergency area should be on Indian Avenue, including the helipad;
that her house is two stories as is the Sales house and Marine helicopters
have landed on the streets previously which were closed by the police and
these copters are very noisy; that the heliport should be on top of a
nursing tower or on Indian; that once the helipad is built it will never be
removed and the neighbors will pay the price for it.
Dr. Aram Jigarian, 933 Avenida Olivos , stated that he opposed the helipad;
that it is not necessary; that there have been 13 landings at the Palm
Springs Airport in the 16 months to pick-up patients and that none of the
cases were life threatening or serious; that helicopter landings at other
hospitals average once a month; that the hospital has to be responsible
financially; that the $200,000 cost of maintenance and insurance for a once
a month landing to bring someone out of the canyon with a broken leg should
be saved and the money spend to reinforce one of the buildings for a
landing pad; that the emergency room site is not practical because there
are 30,000 patients using the emergency services this year and the numbers
are expected to increase; that Tachevah is too narrow to service heavy
traffic and should not be enlarged because It- is a residential street;
that Indian Avenue should be the place for the entrance since there is an
entrance there now; that the change in entrance would not entail, a- great---deal
of changing of the plan; that the plan could be reviewed with the hospital
planner again; that Palm Springs is a pretty city; that the trees should
not be removed to widen the street because they cannot be replaced; that
traffic on Olivos will be increased from vehicles using it as a short cut
to the hospital ; that the City should not risk running down a neighborhood
and degrading its quality; and that the hospital is being stubborn .
Rich Richman: (2nd appearance) stated that the Planning Division notifica-
tion notifies property owners within 400 ft. but that a vast majority of
the neighbors were not notified and that broader range of mailing should be
considered.
Mike Fontana (rebuttal ) stated that regarding the school situation the new
traffic pattern should help the situation because the new entrance will be
west of the intersection of Tachevah and Miraleste and that traffic will be
removed from Tachevah and Miraleste in the plan which should have a posi-
tive impact on the intersection.
There being no further appearances; Chairman declared the hearing closed.
Dr. Jigarian asked to rebut Mr. Fontana' s remarks but Chairman informed him
the public hearing was closed.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0421-PD-0185 (Revised) CONTINUED. (Continued)
In response to Commissioner Whitney, Mr. Fontana stated that the emergency
room has to be next to the radiology and surgical departments to accommo-
date the patients and doctors; and that non-life threatening emergency
patients would be landing at the airport; that the heliport has to be next
to the emergency room; that the location at Indian and Tachevah for a heli-
pad does not meet glide slope requirements according to an expert from FAA
who investigated the location; and that the proper slope can be obtained
with the location on Tachevah .
Commissioner Whitney asked if the pilots can arbitrarily change the flight
path.
Mr. Fontana stated that the helipad will be approved by the FFA and the
Division of Aeronautics and the flight path will be filed with the Airport
Tower as well as the carriers using the pad; that the intent is to keep the
helicopters out of the neighborhood and away from obstructions and have the
pad approved by the division of aeronautics and to keep the helicopters
from circling the neighborhood looking for a landing site.
Commissioner Edgmon asked if a broken leg would constitute a trauma .
Mr. Fontana stated that it is not the hospital ' s intent to land a patient
with a simple broken leg on the helipad and those pati entswoul d be landed at
the airport and that only trauma patients needing immediate medical atten-
tion would be landed on the helipad.
Commissioner Olsen asked if a CH53 Marine helicopter had ever been landed .
Mr. Fontana stated that this type of craft had not been landed but was used
as a criteria for noise and size because it was the largest and noisiest
craft made; that the helipad is 60 ft. in diameter; that the clear zone
around the pad is 120 feet in diameter and that the pad is elevated 52 to 6
ft. and that the pad will be secured and aesthetically pleasing and clear
of obstructions to protect people from the landing. He stated that the
helicopters will be above street level at about 12 ft . at rest and that the
curb distance will be defined in construction drawings .
Commissioner Olsen commented that dust will', accumulate, on the he'lipad when
it is not in use and asked what measures were being taken to keep a dust
storm from blowing on Indian Avenue when a helicopter lands .
Mr. Fontana stated that the hope was to eliminate the dust totally through
a weekly maintenance program and a softscape as a mitigative measure,
although it is not known if the problem can be completely eliminated .
Commissioner Edgmon asked the danger to walking school children as the time
of a helicopter landing.
Mr. Fontana stated that he did not think there would be a problem because
the street is 88 ft . wide and the school is on the southside of the street
and the right-of-way and sidewalk would put the children a distance of 138
ft. from the helipad and that security people could be used to keep
children secure on the sidewalk when a helicopter lands .
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CASE 5.0421-PD-0185 (Revised) CONTINUED. (Continued)
Commissioner Dotson asked if there has been consideration of the juxtaposi-
tioning of the vehicular access from the southwest and the helipad by
moving the helipad to the northeast and relocating the area for access back
to the helipad thus reversing the functions .
Mr. Fontana replied that the heliport is in the middle of the approach
driveway now and the MRI scanner, which has a large magnetic field, cannot
be close to the pad because it demagnitizes objects and affects instruments
and that the helipad should not be behind the E1 Mirador Tower because it
is an 80 ft. obstruction in the glide slope and room is needed to lift off
and reach Indian Avenue .
Commissioner Dotson stated that the MRI is not in that location presently
and that the E1 Mirador does not exist any longer. He asked if there were
30,000 emergency patients a year at the hospital .
Mr. Fontana stated that the figure is correct.
Commissioner Whitney asked if the emergency room on Tachevah would lead to
increased traffic and Mr. Fontana replied that the current traffic is using
Tachevah and it will be removed from Miraleste and Tachevah because traffic
will come from Sunrise and from Farrell .
Commissioner Whitney asked about the possibility of the Trauma Center
closing because patients cannot afford to pay the costs and Mr. Fontana
replied that Palm Springs is a different situation because the trauma
center is not in a blighted inter-urban area where the patients are under-
insured and thazt/Hospital cans sustain the services of a trauma center.
Desert
Commissioner Edgmon asked about placing the pad on top of a high rise as
Mr. Cheatham suggested and Mr. Fontana stated that the proposed location is
open and easy to reach; that regarding pilot consultations on the location
the report advocates a safer location (on top of the radiology building)
but that he had asked Mr. Cheatham if the proposed location were safe and
Mr. Cheatham' s reply was that it was a question of degree (but that he did
not say it was an unsafe location).
Commissioner Whitney asked why there were not many people in the audience
regarding hospital expansion. Planning Director stated that the Public
Hearing was continued and was not renoticed in the newspaper; people are on
summer vacation; but several have sent letters regarding the helipad and
expansion; and the project would be renoticed for the Council hearing on
September 20.
Commissioner Olsen stated that if the site plan could be /drawn from scratch
it would probably would not be designed in its current configuration but
that there are existing constraints (buildings) and that the plans cannot
be changed much except for placing the helipad on the top of a
building, which cannot be done because of budgetary constraints and only
one emergency room; that pilots can land at the facility although they may
not like to do it; that the hospital will have some control over local
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pilots on the route but military pilots will follow no rule and take what-
ever path the pilots decide because they are not interested in the quality
of life in the neighborhood. He stated that there is no way to success-
fully deal with the helicopter problem since a large huey marine helicopter
makes as much noise an top as a building as on the ground; that he did not
know whether or not a helipad on to of a building would lessen noise or
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but there is another side to the question
reduce risks to the neighborhood,
in that the number of occurrences will be far less than noise for emergency
units from the emergency vehicles being used presently and that if he had
his choice between the sirens of the ambulances and the helicopters he
would prefer helicopters because they' re less in numbers .
Chairman stated that the helipad location and sign configuration will have
to be approved by the FAA before the pad is built and operated.
Planning Director stated that the location and design are not reviewed by
the FAA.
Chairman stated that the hospital reviewed the existing facilities and the
proposed location was chosen for the best service and the most practical to
meet their needs; the hospital will probably 1 i ke to plan a pad away from
the neighbors but they cannot do it and the pad will effect the immediate
neighborhood but the Commission decision has to be whether or not the
trauma center should operate at 100% at the hospital or patients should be
landed at the airport. He stated that ambulances also make noise traveling
on Miraleste and Tachevah and that he was in favor of the helipad because
he saw medivacs save patients during the Korean War.
Commissioner Edgmon asked if any consideration had been given to closing
off Olivos if the helipad were approved.
Planning Director answered that there have been discussions with property
owners because of other issues such as vandalism and burglaries in the
neighborhood, but that Olivos could remain a public street which could be
cul-de-saced; that to make it a private street 100% of the neighbors have
to agree and that the residents have not chosen to move forward. He stated
that the City could not fund costs for closing the street although the City
works with neighborhoods occasionally on community projects .
Commissioner Whitney stated that she agreed with Commissioner Olsen and the
Chairman but that she could not come to terms with the establishment of a
helipad in the neighborhood; that if any of her family had an emergency she
could not approve a helicopter flight because of the dangers to someone
else' s life and that the area is a residential neighborhood with a school
and that she could not support the helipad.
Commissioner Dotson stated that he had to reiterate his support for the
concept of the helipad; that he had reconciled the helicopter use
personally but that he had concerns that the rebuilding of the E1 Mirador
that was previously a factor in the concept and for the first time he had
�. heard the hospital staff say the existence of the E1 Mirador was a concern
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on the approach path of the helicopters because of its 86 ft. height
that a viable hospital is needed but that he was not convinced
that the solution reached is creative because there is an area now (El
Mirador location) to place the helipad; that the tower can be rebuilt
within a year without Commission approval but that if it is a stumbling
block to a creative solution for placement of the helipad he could not
support the project. He stated that he could understand the concerns of
the neighbors on O1 i vos , but there is a sufficient buffer between them and
the helipad created by the commercial buildings on Tachevah and the impact
is not as great the neighbors perceive. He stated that a restudy could be
done of the site; that he did not know whether or not the tower permits
have been taken out and that the hospital has locked itself into a design
plan that has not been approved by the Commission.
Commissioner Edgmon stated that she has concerns about the neighborhood and
the school but she was in support of a helipad concept.
Chairman stated that the Commission should think about all the people in
outlying areasthat the helipad would help.
Commissioner Whitney commented that Mr. Fontana had been asked about
risking lives by landing patients at the airport and has stated that no
lives have been lost in transporting these patients to the hospital from the
airport and that it made her question the need for the helipad and the risk
to the lives of other people.
M/S/C (01sen/Edgmon; Mills abstained; Hough absent; Dotson/Whitney
dissented) ordering the filing of a Negative Declaration and approving PD-
185 (Revised) including deletion of the non-pertinent Development Committee
Conditions; revision of Traffic Engineering Conditions; and a stringent
one-year review of the helipad impact based on the following findings and
subject to the following conditions:
Findings :
1 . That the hospital expansion program is necessary and desirable for
serving the continuing health care needs of the community, is in
harmony with the objectives of the General Plan and is not detri-
mental to existing uses.
2. That the 26.4-acre site is adequate in size and configuration to
accommodate the expansion program and all property development
standards in order to adjust the Hospital to the neighborhood .
3. That a planned development district in lieu of a change of zone to
"P" is necessary in order to maintain the specialized nature of this
hospital campus .
4. That the project is located on Indian Avenue , Tachevah Drive and Via
Miraleste, all of which are required to be fully improved in order to
carry the type and quantity of traffic generated by the Hospital at
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full buildout with the required mitigation measures .,,The visual impact
of the high-rise portions of the Hospital is not significant even
with reduced setbacks .
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5. That the establishment of a permanent helipad in the southwest
quadrant of the hospital complex will not create any new noise con-
flicts with surrounding residential properties .
6. That the proposed conditions are deemed necessary to protect the
public health, safety and general welfare of the surrounding com-
munity.
Conditions•
1 . That the detailed final development plans for each phase or building
shall be submitted in accordance with Section 9403.00 and 9404.00 of
the Zoning Ordinance as each phase is implemented .
2. That detailed parking plans shall be submitted for approval in
accordance with Item 1, above. Parking spaces shall be provided in
accordance with Section 9306.00 of the Zoning Ordinance. All parking
stalls shall be installed a minimum of 50 feet from the edge of curb
return to allow for stacking.
,., 3. That it is intended that Section 9304.00 of the Zoning Ordinance
(High-rise Buildings) should be complied with as to height/setback
ratios . The point of measure for building height shall be the
adjoining curb elevation. After further review and analysis , the
right to adjust the required setback.
4. That prior to approval of the final development plans for Phase 1,
the Hospital shall demonstrate ownership of all parcels within the
boundaries of the Planned Development District.
5. That a preliminary landscape plan shall be submitted. The plan shall
show a common landscape these throughout the project and shall serve
as a landscape master plan to be used as a guide for preparation of
detailed landscape plans .
6. That all Development Committee conditions be implemented including
revised signalization requirements set forth in August 28 memo from
Traffic Engineering.
7. That all mitigation measures of the Environmental Assessment shall be
complied with:
a. The provisions of Chapter 70 of the Uniform Building Code blowsand
abatement measure, as amended by the City, shall be complied with.
b. The helipad shall be used for emergency trauma patients only. A
.,• flight operations plan including routing, glide path ratio, height,
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CASE 5.0421-PD-0185 (Revised) CONTINUED. (Continued)
and location shall be submitted with final development plans and this
plan shall receive all necessary approvals from appropriate govern-
mental agencies .
The helipad operations shall proceed for one year and then be subject
to stringent review for continued operation by the City Council at
the end of that time on the impacts to the neighborhood, usage , etc.
C . As a critical facility, the planning and design of facilities on this
site shall take into account the likelihood of an earthquake of
magnitude 7.5 on both the San Andreas and San Jacinto faults.
d . The parking along the following streets shall be removed to provide
adequate capacity for the traffic volume that will be generated by
this project:
Via Miraleste - Tachevah Drive to Mel Avenue
Tachevah Drive - Indian Avenue to Avenida Caballeros
Mel Avenue - Indian Avenue to Via Miraleste
Avenida Palos Verdes - Paseo El Mirador to Mel Avenue
8. That the open space requirement of 40% for professional complexes
shall be required of this project. Areas which contain decorative
paving, as well as the E1 Mirador project, may be used to satisfy
this requirement.
9. That all recommendations of the Development Committee Conditions of
October 5, 1987 as amended be implemented.
10. That all parking areas/structures be set back from the property line
a distance of 25 ft . along all street frontages .
11 . That a street tree program be provided .
12. That major pedestrian walkways be defined with trees and/or pergolas .
13. That the parking structure in the northwest corner be reduced in
height.
NB: This application will be scheduled for City Council hearing on
September 20 at 7:30 p.m. in the City Council Chambers , 3200 E.
Tahquitz-McCallum Way.
CASE 5.0516-CUP. Application by ROESCH LINES INC. for a conditional use permit
for administrative office/vehicle cleaning/light repair facility on
Research Drive between Computer Way/Farrell Drive, M-1-P Zone, Section 12.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0516-CUP. (Continued)
(Commission response to written comments on draft Negative Declaration; no
comments received; action .)
Planner (Abbas) stated that the application is for a transportation
terminal vehicle cleaning facility and light repair facility; the AAC
recommended a restudy of the architecture; the staff recommends approval of
the CUP with the architecture restudied; that the AAC recommended approval
of the site plan; that the location is in the middle of Research Drive;
that the applicant does not pick up tour groups or clients , the building is
strictly for dispatching of of buses and vans to hotels and the airport to
pick- up passengers .
Commissioner Mills asked about provisions for employee and bus driver
private parking and Planner stated that it is provided behind the gates and
that no additional parking will be generated and the facility being used
presently has gates .
Chairman declared the hearing open.
Dick Crane, 3200 Tahquitz, #205, manager of Avis Palm Springs , and former
manager of Gr,.ay Lines , stated that the company has operated on Civic Drive
for 20 years and has had no problems with the residents; that the new area
will be better zoned for the use than a residential zone; and that the
facility is only for administration.
Ken Smith, California Leisure Consultant Destination Company, stated that
he was in favor of the project and that his company provides transportation
from hotels to the airport and convention center and promotes Palm Springs;
that the type of company is in competition with other warm weather resorts
for tourists; that the goals and vitality of Gray,Lin.esis critical to
destination management companies and to the City.
Randy Roesch, bus line owner, stated he would answer questions . In reply
to Commissioner Dotson, he stated that there is a fleet of both vans and
buses which are currently in use in the City.
There being no further appearances; Chairman declared the hearing closed.
Commissioner Olsen asked about the projected signalization date of Tachevah
and Traffic Engineer replied there was no firm date.
Commissioner Olsen stated that he had a slight concern which would probably
fall on the bus company that there will be a problem for slowly turning ',
buses coming from the DMV area to Farrell .
Traffic Engineer stated that Farrell will be widened to four lanes either
inl989or 90 and that with early morning pick-ups there should not be a
major problem.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0516-CUP. (Continued)
Commissioner Dotson stated that it would be safer for the buses for access
at Computer Way which is on the curb. He also questioned the "light main-
tenance" term since the east elevation appearance is that of a maintenance
facility.
Mr. Roesch replied that there is no provision in the facility for heavy
maintenance of the buses; that the heavy maintenance facility is in San
Bernardino; that there is a fuel island near the facility; and that only
routine maintenance will performed such as changing tires .
Planning Director stated that light maintenance only could be a condition
of approval .
Commissioner Mills remarked that he was concerned about buses pulling out
on Farrell ; that Computer Way would be more visible for traffic traveling
northbound on Farrell , which will be surprised when a bus pulls out on
Research Drive around the corner.
Traffic Engineer stated that the original design of the curve is a problem
because of the small 500 ft. radius which should have been 1000 ft.; that
two guardrails have been installed because people leave the road on
Farrell ; that it is a difficult problem to address because of site
restrictions; that the bus employees will have to be oriented regarding the
problems .
Commissioner Mills commented that farther north there is no bus pulling out
and that buses will be using Farrell for their routes because the area is
developing.
Commissioner Edgmon commented that she makes a difficult turn on Tachevah
going north , each morning.
Planning Director asked if the Traffic Engineer could state that signaliza-
tion of Tachevah,Research, and Farrell would help on ingress and egress;
that any use of the property will have similar impacts; that the concern is
for the long term broad area changes in the general traffic pattern of
Farrell and Computer.
Traffic Engineer replied that signalization will help.
Chairman commented that a bus driver can see greater distances and
potential dangers and also knows the slowness of his bus pulling out and
the bus movement will be adjusted.
Commissioner Dotson questioned the maximum number of buses on site and
Planner replied that there would be ten .
Commissioner Dotson stated that conditions should be approved that there
will be a maximum of ten buses on site and that no heavy maintenance would
be permitted and also that no egress would be permitted on Computer. He
also suggested review of the landscaping, especially on the north boundary
in the rear of the project.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0516-CUP. (Continued)
Planning Director stated that the Development Committee Conditions already
limit the number of buses to ten and require an additional 5 ft. planter.
He stated that maintenance could be added as a condition and also.%iearess
from Computer.
Planner stated that AAC recommended approval of the site plan and restudy
of the building and Commission Mills stated that a conditions should be
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added that the common shared driveway have landscaping at the end.
M/S/C (Olsen/Edgmon; Hough absent; Mills dissented) ordering the filing of
a Negative Declaration and approving CUP 5.0516 based on the following
findings and subject to the following conditions:
Findings :
1 . That the proposed charter bus terminal is properly one for which a
CUP is authorized by the Zoning Ordinance.
2. That the proposed bus terminal use is in harmony with the General
Plan and is not detrimental to the neighborhood.
3. That the site being 1.16 acres in size and irregular ins shape can
accommodate the proposed improvements including all yards , setbacks ,
walls and landscaping.
4. That the site is located near Farrell Drive , which is adequate to
handle the anticipated traffic.
5. That the conditions imposed are deemed necessary to protect the
public health, safety and general welfare.
Conditions:
1 . That the architecture be restudied and approved by the AAC and
Commission.
2. That the landscape be restudied at the end of the street and approved
by the AAC and Commission.
3. That no heavy maintenance be performed on-site.
4. That all recommendations of the Development Committee date August 14,
1989 be implemented.
5. That all of the mitigation measures of the Environmental Assessment
dated August 23, 1989, for Case 5.0516-CUP shall be met.
CASE 5.0517-PD-104. Application by CONARD/COLE PARTNERSHIP for a planned
`.,., development district to allow construction of a 102-unit board and care
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0517-PD-104. (Continued)
facility for the elderly on Vista Chino between Sunrise Way/Avenida
Caballeros, R-2 Zone, Section 11.
(Commission response to written comments on draft Negative Declaration;
action.)
Recommendation: That the Commission order the filing of a Negative
Declaration and approve PD-104.
Planner (Goodwin) gave the staff report and stated that AAC reviewed the
project and had concerns about the architecture; that the property is large
enough to add additional parking; and that the applicant was present to
discuss the project.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
Alan Sanborn, project architect, 600 E. Tahquitz Way, representing the
client stated that the client agrees with the recommendations of the AAC;
that documentation proves that most of the elderly do not drive cars
because the average age for this facility will be 76 years; that the
applicants prefer to landscape rather than have a large parking lot; and
that a limousine shuttle bus provided for shopping and appointments .
Chairman commented that the elderly unfortunately do not have many
visitors.
Commissioner Dotson asked the designation of a Board and Care Facility and
Mr. Sanborn stated that the program proposed was assisted living with no
medical or nursing services .
Planner stated there would be a central dining room and minimally equipped
kitchen in the units and central food preparation.
Mr. Sanborn stated also that there is a leisure open space area with
benches and trees which could have more indigenous plantings. In reply to
Commissioner Olsen, he stated that there will be 10 to 15 employees .
Commissioner Olsen commented that 30 or 40 cars would ingress and egress in
a shift change .
There being no further appearances; Chairman declared the hearing closed.
Colors and architecture of the project were discussed.
Chairman stated that the AAC found the architecture acceptable and colors
on the color board are more representative than those on the renderings .
Planner stated that the AAC requested a more accurate color sample and that
if the board and care designation were changed to a more intense use and
additional parking were needed,the added parking would be required .
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0517-PD-104. (Continued)
Chairman suggested reducing the parking requirements and adding them at a
future date if needed.
Planning Director stated that the planned development district is
preliminary but the architecture as presented is a final design and would
not change substantially and working drawings would not be reviewed again by
the Commission unless working drawing review were a condition.
Commissioner Mills stated that the project is probably over parked but that
the architecture needs restudy since the entry is in the direction of
northern prevailing winds which will blow water from the fountain into the
building. He suggested a porte-cochere to reduce the water spray problem
and stated that the architecture does not reflect the desert.
Planning Director stated that there is no true north/south elevation.
Commissioner Mills stated that the orientation tends to be predominately
north and that the architecture is flat and very uninteresting and that the
roof line does not have enough movement and the mansard roof gives the
building a cheap apartment type of feeling. He stated that this type of
facility on this type of space in the particular location should have more
thought and effort put into the architecture.
Planner stated that the building is 300 ft. off Vista Chino .
Chairman stated that the darker color on the elevations ' is painted stucco.
Commissioner Dotson remarked that the architecture should be restudied
before action is taken .
Commissioner Mills suggested approval of the planned development district
with a restudy of the architecture.
Planning Director explained that the planned development district would
include the use, the basic massing, and the revised architecture could be
reviewed by the Commission later.
M/S/C (Mills/Dotson; Hough absent) ordering the filing of a Negative
Declaration and approving PD-104 based on the following findings and sub-
ject to the following conditions:
Findings:
1 . That a Planned Development District is the proper application for
this project.
2. That the proposed use is a suitable and desirable use for the com-
munity.
3. That the proposed use is consistent with the General plan.
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CASE 5.0517-PD-104. (Continued)
4. That the size and shape of the site is adequate to accommodate the
proposed use.
5. That Vista Chino is adequately designed to accommodate any traffic
generated by this project.
6. That the mitigation measures imposed are necessary to protect the
public health , safety and general welfare of the community.
Conditions:
1 . That all Development Committee conditions dated August 23, 1989, be
met.
2. That all conditions of the environmental assessment for Case 5.0517
shall be met.
3. That the architecture be restudied noting the AAC concerns
of August 21.
CASE 5.0518-CUP. Application by HORST SHOLTZ for a conditional use permit for an
addition to an existing restaurant at the Spanish Inn, 640 N. Indian
Avenue , north of Granvia Valmonte, R-3 Zone, Section 11 .
(This action is categorically exempt from environmental assessment per CEQA
guidelines .)
Recommendation: That the Commission order the filing of a Negative
Declaration and approve-- CUP 5.0518.
Planner (Goodwin) gave the staff report and stated that one comment in a
letter from a neighboring residents was that Via Chica needed to be cleaned
up.
Chairman declared the hearing open .
Pat Weinburg, applicant, stated that she accepted the conditions and that
the area had been cleaned up and old cars removed. She requested that
conditions 3 and 4 regarding a required parking lot and sidewalk be
deferred since the Spanish Inn does not need the parking spaces presently
and deferrment would help financially.
Chairman stated that he and Commissioner Olsen were members of the Palm
Springs Club and owned 1/85th of the property next door to the Spanish Inn
and that Commissioner Whitney's husband also belongs to the Palm Springs
Club. He asked if they should all abstain and Assistant City Attorney
advised all three to abstain.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0518-CUP. (Continued )
Assistant City Attorney stated that the public hearing could proceed
because enough members /cou)ed counted as present for a quorum.
Commissioner Edgmon presided.
Commissioner Dotson stated that the current parking is substandard and he
felt that parking requirements should not be deleted. He stated that the
parking situation on Indian in front of the Spanish Inn is very tight and
Traffic Engineer agreed.
Planning Director stated that the area is not red curbed in front of the
building.
In reply to Commissioner Edgmon , Planner stated that the new reception area
is on Alta Mira and that patrons would park in the back of the Spanish Inn.
She stated that there could be a problem with stacking in the back but
there is extra pavement and 11 parking spaces; and that there could be a
concern depending on how the valet parking works and�thatthe applicants are
not proposing valet parking.
Mrs. Weinburg stated that they would have valet parking when it is needed .
Planner stated that the primary access is on Alta Mira.
Commissioner Mills asked if the parking condition were deleted if the City
could require it in six months if necessary.
Planning Director replied that there is the same control on conditions on
any project, although deferrment of conditions sometimes causes problems
when people become uncooperative and that staff generally prefers condi-
tions to be in place prior to commencement of operations.
Commissioner Mills stated that he was comfortable with a timed CUP which
could be revoked in a year if the parking were not provided. He stated
that everyone wants the Spanish Inn to be successful and to be upgraded and
a one-year CUP could be granted to be extended if the parking were
installed and approved by staff.
Planning Director stated that that type of CUP would be acceptable unless
the applicant's ask for an extension and that the finding made that the
site is adequate is accurate per the Zoning Ordinance requirement for
intensification of use; and that the parking provided appears to be ade-
quate for the facility without impacting other properties or there would
have been many phone calls to staff.
Commissioner Dotson asked if the use intensifies parking on Indian since
parking on that street seems unsafe.
Planning Director answered that the parking could be red curbed and even-
tually there will be no parking on Indian. He stated that parking on
Indian is not being counted in the requirements .
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0518-CUP. (Continued)
Commissioner Dotson remarked that a dangerous situation might be encouraged
if no more parking is required since the restaurant will be an attraction
for people.
Planning Director stated that parking needs are being met now and the con-
dition is that if there is a problem in the future it will be reviewed.
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Assistant City Attorney stated that/CUP is approved for an indefinite time.
Traffic Engineer commented that the only area that is red curbed is at the
left turn area because it is too narrow for traffic but the rest of the
street has been widened although it feels narrow.
Planning Director explained that the Commission has a four person quorum
and three positive votes are required to make a majority of the quorum and
if the vote is 2-1 the CUP will not be approved.
Commissioner Mills asked Commissioner Dotson what his concerns were.
Commissioner Dotson stated that by approving the CUP without parking, a
tight parking situation on Indian Avenue will be encouraged; that the need
for the parking will exist; and that a briefer review period would be
acceptable to him since a year is through the entire tourist season. He
stated that the approval should be approved foir 3 months with the parking
installed at that time and another review in 3 months.
M/S/C (Mills/Edgmon; Hough absent; Whitney/Lapham/Olsen abstained)
approving CUP 5.0518 based on the following findings and subject to the
following conditions:
Findings•
1. That a conditional use permit application is authorized by the Zoning
Ordinance for this type of use.
2. That site is adequate in size and shape to accommodate the proposed
use.
3. That the proposed use is in conformance with the Zoning Ordinance and
General Plan.
4. That the proposed use, subject to conditions recommended, is not
detrimental to the general public health , safety or welfare.
Conditions•
1. That the restaurant (pool side) be limited to 24 seats and operated
between the hours of 8 a.m. and 3 p.m.
2 . That the restaurant (lobby area) "The Living Room" be limited to 49
�., seats and operated between the hours of 5 p.m. to midnight.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0518-CUP. (Continued )
3. That the parking lot proposed on Gran Via Valmonte to be installed in
compliance with Section 9306.00 of the Zoning Ordinance be deferred
for 6 months with review in 3 months for problems .
4. That a sidewalk to be provided from the proposed parking lot on Gran
Via Valmonte to the existing sidewalk on Indian Avenue be deferred
for 6 months .
5. That the existing parking lot on Via Chica be utilized as employee
parking and valet parking.
6. That a plan be submitted for a program to upgrade the property along
Via Chica within 30 days of approval of the CUP and be completed
within an additional 30 days .
7. That all signs require review, approval and separate permits .
8. That within three (3) months of the Conditional Use Permit approval ,
a review shall be conducted to insure the parking adequacy.
9. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be implemented.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - None.
ITEMS REMOYED FROM CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
CASE 3.0614. Application by MIKE GILBERT for architectural approval of a wall
for a single-family hillside residence on Andreas Hills Drive, R-1-C Zone,
Section 1.
Planner Goodwin stated that the architecture was approved with the design
of the wall to be reviewed by the Commission and that the AAC recommended
approval of the wall and a restudy of the grading plan . She stated that
the major concern is the ficus hedge on Andreas Hills Drive.
Planning Director stated that he had received a call from the architect,
who is out of town; that the house is below the level of the street; that
there is no hedge toward the front of the house; that the AAC felt that the
ficus would be a green scar.
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ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.0614. (Continued)
Chairman stated that the elevation on the display board is the best way to
landscape the project; that there should not be a soldier coarse of ficus
trees because they are too big and too uniform and do not blend with the
architecture of the house.
Planning Director stated that there was no sidewalk requirement.
Commissioner Mills suggested berming and a 4-ft. high shrub as screening
from the street.
M/S/C (Mills/Olsen; Hough absent) approving the wall design as submitted
and a restudy of the landscape to show more compatibility with the building
design (plans to be submitted with final grading plan) .
CASE 3.0615. Application by JACK BERNABUCCI for architectural approval of a wall
for a single-family hillside residence at 1500 Hillview Cove, R-1-C Zone,
Section 1.
Planner (Goodwin) stated that the AAC approved the landscape plans and the
garden walls subject to conditions of restudy of the wrought iron wall .
Planning Director explained that the wrought iron wall was to keep children
out of the yard and that the landscaping would intermesh with the wrought
iron.
Chairman commented on the undisturbed long length of the wall (120 ft.) .
Commissioner Mills commented that the landscaping will be broken up well in
the view towards the site and that from site a 30 inch high wrought iron
fence is acceptable (even 4 ft. from the patio) ,and that the final review
should be done by staff.
M/S/C (Mills/Dotson; Olsen dissented; Hough absent) taking the following
actions:
1 . That landscape plans and garden walls are approved.
2. That the wrought iron be reviewed and approved by staff.
Commissioner Olsen dissented because the Commission usually takes the
advice of the AAC.
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MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
CASE 5.0520-MISC. Initiation by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS of a Negative
�-' Declaration of a Sphere of Influence amendment to add the area generally
located north of Interstate 10 from Palm Drive to Verbenia Road comprising
approximately 11 square miles .
Planner (Abbas) stated that the proposal is an amendment to the Sphere of
Influence to place Palm Springs influence across Interstate 10 which
removes some of the sphere of Desert Hot Springs and the Cathedral City
sphere; that approval of the negative declaration is needed because it is a
necessary part of the application to make a Sphere Amendment to LAFCO; and
that the amendment involves mostly services to the area. She stated that
projects being proposed do not have to be addressed and staff is
recommending approval of the negative declaration. She stated that
annexation is a more stringent process than a Sphere Amendment.
Commissioner Dotson stated that he was in support of the proposal and
wanted the sphere to include Snow Creek and Planning Director stated that
Snow Creek is currently in the City' s sphere.
Planner described the area on the board.
M/S/C (Dotson/Olsen; Hough absent) approving a Negative Declaration for a
Sphere-of-Influence Amendment to add the area generally north of Interstate
10 from Palm Drive to Verbenia Road comprising approximately 11 square
miles .
Commissioner Whitney asked if the amendment would give the City more
influence on the raceway.
Planner answered that this amendment would be north of the freeway and that
the raceway is already in the Sphere-of-Influence of the City.
SIGN APPLICATION. Application by TRIPLE A SIGNS for Buffums for architectural
approval of a sign program for a department store in the Palm Springs Mall ,
southwest corner of E. Tahquitz-McCallum Way/Farrell Drive, CSC Zone,
Section 13.
Planner (Forcucci ) stated that Buffum' s in the Palm Springs Mall has
applied for four identification signs , 2 at the main entrance of the mall
and 2 in the back on the west elevation (repl aces 2 other signs); that the
sign is channel lettered and lit from behind by neon (which cannot be seen)
and meets all requirements. He stated that the AAC approved the Buffum's
sign but restudied the mall sign feeling that it should be under the fascia.
Commissioner Whitney left.
He stated that the fasciais a clean area and should not be interrupted.
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CONSENT AGENDA (Continued)
SIGN APPLICATION. (Continued)
Commissioner Dotson remarked that he could support either one independently
but that they do not go together and he would like to see a cohesive
proposal submitted .
Motion was made by Dotson for restudy in order for the applicant to submit
a cohesive proposal . The motion died for lack of a second .
M/S/C (Mills/Olsen; Whitney/Hough absent) approving 6uffum' s sign as sub-
mitted and a restudy of the mall sign per AAC recommendation.
MISCELLANE0US ITEMS
CASE 11.22 - STREET NAME CHANGE. Request by Planning Staff for a street name
change from San Rafael Drive to "Tram Way" for its entire length of N.
Palm Canyon Drive to Sunrise Way, Section 2,3, 34 and 35.
Planning Director stated that Culver Nichels , a major property owner in the
tram area , has requested the name change; that the Tram Way study committee
of years ago recommended such a change; and that the Commissioner without
property owners signing a petition can change a street name; that there are
few addresses now on San Rafael but new projects will be developed which
will require addresses soon; that there are two other San Rafael streets
within the City.
Chairman commented that this change will be confused with Tram View which
is only one-fourth mile away from the proposed Tram Way.
Commissioner Mills asked if he should abstain since Mr. Nichols is a client
and Assistant City Attorney stated that there was no conflict of interest
since the City is initiating the change .
Chairman stated that he opposed the name change because he liked the name
San Rafael .
Planning Director stated that he would check on whether or not the case
would have to be a public hearing at Council level .
M/S/C (Olsen/Mills; Lapham dissented; Hough/Whitney absent) approving a
street name change from San Rafael Drive to Tram Way.
August 23, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 28
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Continued)
ADDED STARTERS. (Determination of eligibility for consideration .)
•..� M/S/C Olsen/Mills; Hough Whitney absent) determining that Case 85.170 is
eligible for consideration because the need/action arose after the Agenda
was prepared. * * * * * for
CASE 85.170 (CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE) . Application by ASL CONSULTING ENGINEERS
for Newport National Corporation for a certificate of compliance for
property on Gene Autry Trail/Tachevah Drive , M-1-P Zone, Section 7.
Planner (Evans) stated that the City is involved with the Bird Corporation
and the property owner for clearing up legalities on the property and also
for financing and that the City could lose money unless action is taken by
the Commission; that the parcels have to be recognized as legal ; and that a
1 of 1 i ne adj ustment wi 11 al so be necessary to reconfi gure the north parcel .
He stated that the front parcel will be industrial pads , the second parcel
will be Bird Corportati on's parcel ; and the third will be open space with
the Classic Project.
He stated that there is one condition: That there be a 33 ft. access
easement to the rear of parcels for legal access which was recommended by
the City Engineer and which would comply with the line-up of Tachevah. He
stated that there is no access to Gene Autry on the one large parcel which
will be subdivided and access restricted at that time.
M/S/C (Mills/Olsen; Whitney/Hough absent) approving Case 85.170 subject to
the condition that the be 33 ft. easement to the rear parcels for legal
access.
* * * * *
CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS. Update of City Council actions.
Downtown Plan. Bob Jani died and issues will have to be resolved regarding
the downtown design plan. Staff will check and update position.
* * * * *
COMMISSION/STAFF REPORTS OR REQUESTS.
Avenida Olivos Parking. Planning Director stated that when the medical
building PD was approved a condition was that there be no parking on Olivos
to keep complexes parking off the street.
Toxic Substances Disposal . At Commissioner Dotson' s request, staff will
check with Irvine, California on its legislation on banning Cloroflouro-
carbon (CFC) use (spray cans , e.g.) .
* * * * *
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, Chairman adjourned the meeting at 5:00 p.m.
PLANNI G D RECTOR
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l PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
Council Chamber, City Hall
• September 13, 1989
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1989 - 1990
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to Date
Larry Lapham, Chairman X 5 0
Gary Olsen X 5 0
Barbara Whitney X 5 0
Brent Hough - 1 4
Martha Edgmon X 5 0
Chris Mills X 5 0
Michael Dotson X 5 0
Staff Present
Marvin D. Roos , Planning Director
Siegfried Siefkes , Assistant City Attorney
Debra Goodwin, Planner
Sherri Abbas, Planner
Dave Forcucci , Planner
Dean Lewis, Traffic Engineer
Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee - September 11, 1989
• Larry Lapham, Acting Chairman Absent: Brent Hough, Chairman
William Johnson Tom Doczi
Will Kleindienst Mike Buccino
Reuel Young
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1 :30 p.m.
M/S/C (Olsen/Dotson; Hough absent) approving minutes of August 23, 1989 with the
following corrections:
CASE 5.0421-PD-185 (Desert Hospital expansion) .
Page 12. Second Paragraph. Change "sign" to "site" .
Page 17. First paragraph. Change "curb" to "curve" .
Commissioner Dotson stated that he was surprised at the finding that the
visual impact of the highrise portions is not significant even with reduced
setbacks since he had asked for a section on the massing because he felt
that massing needed to be addressed. Planning Director stated the finding
was not altered from the staff report.
• REPORT OF POSTING AGENDA:
The September 13, 1989 agenda was available for public access at the City Hall
exterior bulletin board and the Planning Division Counter by 5:00 p.m. , Friday,
September 8, 1989,