HomeMy WebLinkAbout1989/05/10 - MINUTES 1
BANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINU7
Council Chamber, City Hall
May 10, 1989
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1988 - 1989
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to Date
Larry Lapham, Chairman X 19 2
Gary Olsen X 17 4
j Barbara Whitney X 16 5
Brent Hough X 19 2
Martha Edgmon X 19 2
Chris Mills X 17 2
Michael Dotson X 18 0
Staff Present
Douglas Evans, Planner
Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney
Debra Goodwin, Planner
Sherri Abbas, Planner
John Terell , Redevelopment Coordinator
Dave Forcucci , Zoning Enforcement
Dean Lewis , Traffic Engineer
Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee - May 8, 1989
Brent Hough, Chairman Absent: Mike Buccino
ram., Will Kleindienst
William Johnson
Tom Doczi
Reuel Young
Tom Doczi
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
M/S/C (Olsen/Dotson) approving minutes of April 26, 1989 with the following
corrections:
Page 2, second paragraph: Delete "Approved"; add "Restudy noting the following:"
(Case 3.0547) .
Page 18, Paragraph 6: Delete condition No. 5. Add revised condition #5 as
follows: :
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5. That the architectural design concept should be reevaluated. The overall
concept should be tied together (eg. mediterranean theme of hotel vs.
contemporary theme of the exhibit area) . Particular attention should be
�... placed upon scale, massing, and detail . A contemporary design theme should
be considered for all facilities (Case 20.108) ."
REPORT OF POSTING AGENT; Page 2
The May 10, 1989 agenda was available for public access at the City Hall exterior
bulletin board and the Planning Division Counter by 5:00 p.m. , Friday, May 5,
1989.
CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
M/S/C (Olsen/Hough) taking the following actions:
li CASE 3.0530. Application by TONY WEST for architectural approval of four-plex at
j 488 Chuckwalla Road, R-2 Zone, Section 11.
Restudy noting the following:
1. That the front elevation be restudied.
2. That the rear yard be developed as open space for unit 1.
CASE 3.0531. Application by TONY WEST for architectural approval of a four-plex
at 567 Chuckwalla Road, R-2 Zone, Section 11.
Restudy.
CASE 3.0481 (MINOR) . Initiation by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS for architectural
approval of revised landscape plans for median island on N. Indian Avenue
between Las Vegas/Tramview Roads, "0" Zone, Section 34.
Continued to May 24, 1989 for submittal of new plans.
CASE 3.0557 (MINOR) . Application by WINNERS for architectural approval of
wrought iron window grates and gated entry at 238 N. Palm Canyon Drive, C-
B-D Zone, Section 15.
Continued to May 24, 1989.
Abstention: Mills.
SIGN APPLICATION. Application by QUALITY PROJECT COORDINATORS for architectural
approval of revised plans for a main identification sign for Motel 6, S.
Palm Canyon Drive, PD-187, Section 23. (Ref. Case 5.0437-PD-187)
Restudy noting that the design of the sign and the buildings are not com-
patible.
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CONSENT AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.0484 (MINOR) . Application by BRYAN TANNER (Access Controls) for architec-
tural approval for security gates at 2601 Broadmoor (Summerset Springs) , R-
3 Zone, Section 29.
Restudy noting the following: That the entries should be substantially
revised to reduce conflicts.
ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
CASE 3.0552. Application by JOSEPH CRNCIC for architectural approval of revised
plans for single-family hillside residence on Ramon Road/Fern Canyon Drive,
R-1-A Zone, Section 22.
Planner (Abbas) explained that the application was restudied previously
because of the mass of the building, the non-integrated pop-out entrance,
and the grading (which is only a 5 ft. slope, not a 10 ft. and was
misinterpreted by the AAC) ; that the AAC still felt that the building was
too massive (2% too large for the below-minimum size of the lot) ; and that
the AAC also felt that the house is too flat in appearance.
Joseph Crncic, 3681 Kempton Drive, Los Alamitos, the applicant, commented
that he was confused about the direction of the AAC and the Commission;
that he has spent much money for revised renderings to bring to the
Commission; that the design was approved in 1982 but was never constructed;
that the only change is the entrance; that the revised entrance was thought
to be better by several architects; that the drive can be eliminated if
necessary; that the Planning Director and AAC member Reuel Young had drawn
rough sketches for him of a revised entrance; that the upper portion of the
house could be brought forward beyond the face as a compromise; and that he
needed clear direction from the Commission on the design.
In reply to Chairman's question, Commissioner Hough stated that some direc-
tion was given at the AAC meeting by Reuel Young; that the entry was the
biggest problem; that no revised plans were submitted on the circular drive
recommended (or on the landscaping) ; and that the single biggest problem
was the entry.
Mr. Crncic stated that he felt he had complied with the sketches of the
Planning Director and Mr. Young.
Commissioner Hough remarked that he liked the 1982 design better than the
present one.
Chairman agreed, stating that the entry had no relation to the rest of the
house.
M/S/C (Olsen/Edgmon) for a restudy noting the concerns of the AAC at the
April 24 meeting as follows:
1. That the entry configuration of the roof, stairs, and driveway should
be restudied.
2. That the driveway on the north side should be deleted.
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• ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.0552. (Continued)
3. That the landscaping plan should be revised.
4. That the building mass should be reduced.
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CASE 3.0556. Application by JACK MARLIN for architectural approval of a commer-
cial building at 1133 N. Palm Canyon Drive, C-1 Zone, Section 10.
(Commission response to written comments on draft Negative Declaration; no
comments received; action.)
Chairman abstained; Vice-Chairman presided.
Planner (Evans) presented the project and stated that the plan was well
received by the AAC and that the firm of Kaptur and Cioffi were the archi-
tects.
In response to Commissioner Mills, Mr. Cioffi , the architect, stated that
the space frame covered parking is roofed and is a light color. He stated
that the trim would be red.
Commissioner Whitnev and Edgmon stated that they felt that the trim color
should not be red,
Mr. Cioffi stated that sample color panels will be painted on the building
for Commission review.
M/S/C (Mills/Whitney; Lapham abstained) approving the application subject
to the following conditions:
1. That paint samples be painted on the building for Commission and AAC
review.
2. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be implemented.
3. That detailed final irrigation, exterior lighting, and landscaping
plans be submitted for staff approval .
CASE 3.0558. Application by MIKE GALLEGO for architectural approval of commer-
cial building (auto repair) on Oleander Road between Ramon Road/Camino
Parocela, M-1 Zone, Section 19.
(Commission response to written comments on draft Negative Declaration;
comments received; action.)
Planner Goodwin stated that the applicant revised the plans, and the AAC
recommended approval subject to conditions.
Wendell Veith, 556 S. Sunrise Way, project architect, stated that he con-
curred with the AAC recommendations in lowering the roof and that there
will be two feet of stucco under the metal roof to make a wedge shape.
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CASE 3.0558. (Continued)
M/S/C (Olsen/Whitney) ordering the filing of a negative declaration and
approving the application subject to the following conditions:
1. That the roof on the office section be a simple triangular shape.
2. That the fascia be removed.
3. That the windows and door heads be at eight feet.
4. That the door be recessed 12 to 18 inches.
5. That the working drawings be reviewed by the AAC.
6. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be implemented.
CASE 3.0562. Application by KIM CONNOR for architectural approval of revised
plans for single-family hillside residence at 2249 Rim Road, R-1-B Zone,
Section 25.
Planner (Goodwin) stated that the AAC recommended approval subject to
review of the spacing of windows and doors.
Commissioner Hough explained that the Commission did not make spacing a
condition (but a recommendation) for balancing the windows and doors.
M/S/C (Olsen/Edgmon) approving the application subject to the following
conditions:
1. That the roof on the mechanical room be moved.
2. That attention be paid to the massing and balance of the door and
window spacing.
3. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be met.
CASE 3.0566. Application by GREG HOUGH for architectural approval of a single-
family residence at 2265 Araby Drive, R-1-B Zone, Section 25.
Planner (Abbas) stated that curb and gutter installation should be deferred
until development of the area, not waived as indicated in the Development
Committee minutes; and that the grading problem which may make cars bottom
out can be re-engineered.
M/S/C (Olsen/Dotson; Hough abstained) approving the application subject to
the following conditions:
1. That all recommendations of the Development Committee, as amended, be
implemented.
2. That the grade be re-engineered to prevent the bottoming out of cars.
PUBLIC HEARINGS `.. Page 6
CASE 5.0510-CUP. Application by LAFF ROCK for a conditional use permit for a
nightclub at 1000 E. Tahquitz Way, C-1-AA/R-4-VP Zone (I .L.) , Section 14.
(Commission response to written comments on Draft Negative Declaration; no
comments received; action.)
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Chairman abstained; Vice-Chairman presided.
Planner (Abbas) stated that there are three nightclubs in the project and
j two restaurants; that required parking is 313 spaces and the project has
273; that dual use parking will be required; that the valet parking would
add more space; and that the parking spaces with valet parking should be
adequate.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
Bob Airhart, Voss Investments, the applicant, stated that there is a good
tenant mix in the complex; that the design has been reviewed with staff and
Commission; and that the center will become a valuable part of the Com-
munity.
Commissioner Whitney asked about the logo/sign that marketing represent-
ative Marjorie Taft showed the Commission.
Ms. Taft stated that the sign had not been designed and the logo shown will
be on the stationery and business cards.
Mr. Erhart explained that the company will be requesting a marquee which
will be sensitive in design and the complex will have well-designed signs
as well .
There being no further appearances; Chairman declared the hearing closed.
Planner stated that planter sizes have been increased to make more
luxuriant landscaping; and that landscaping was part of the original
approval and the CUP is for the use only.
M/S/C (Mills/Hough; Lapham abstained) approving CUP 5.0510 based on the
following findings and subject to the following conditions:
Findings:
1. That the proposed nightclub use applied for at 1000 E. Tahquitz Way
is properly one for which a Conditional Use Permit is authorized by
the Zoning Ordinance.
2. That the proposed nightclub use is desirable for the development of
the community, is in harmony with the General Plan, and is not detri-
mental to the existing uses or to future uses specifically permitted
in the zone in which the proposed use is located.
3. That the site for the nightclub use is adequate in size (3.63 acres)
and shape to accommodate said use including yards, setbacks, walls ,
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0510-CUP. (Continued)
landscaping and other features required in order to adjust said use
to existing or permitted future uses of the land in the neighborhood.
4. That Tahquitz Way and Avenida Caballeros are properly designed and
improved to carry the type and quantity of traffic generated by the
proposed use.
5. That the conditions imposed are deemed necessary to protect the
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public health, safety and welfare.
Conditions:
1. That the parking management plan as outlined in this report shall be
adhered to. Significant changes in the uses shall require any neces-
sary prior approval .
2. That maximum seating/occupancy shall be based on available parking.
3. That the Commission may review the parking/seating ratio and increase
or decrease seating occupancy if the parking needs are consistently
not being met on site.
TRIBAL COUNCIL COMMENTS
This case was considered by the Tribal Council at its regularly scheduled
meeting of May 9, 1989. After consideration of the recommendations of the
Indian Planning Commission, the Tribal- Council took the following actions:
1 . Concurred with the findings as set forth in City Planning Commission
Staff report dated May 10, 1989.
2. Approved the request for a conditional use permit to operate the
three (3) nightclubs at 1000 E. Tahquitz Way subject to the condi-
tions in staff report referred to above.
CASE 5.0512-GPA. Initiation by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS for revisions to the
Housing Element as a portion of the City's General Plan. (Ref. Case
5.0132-GPA)
(Commission response to written comments on Draft Negative Declaration; no
comments received; action.)
Planner (Evans) stated that the Housing Element was discussed at length at
the April Planning Commission study session; that Commission direction is
needed for a rewrite of the element; that significant issues need to be
addressed and a compromise will be reached addressing housing needs between
the Housing and Planning staff; and that this item could be tabled and
discussed at the end of the meeting.
Chairman declared the hearing open; there being no further appearances;
Chairman declared the hearing closed.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0512-GPA. (Continued)
Commissioner Dotson asked about Section 1.0.2 (Growth Limitations) . He
stated that there are no formal growth limitation in the document; that the
General Plan would place limitations on growth and -that_ the concept should
be discussed. He also questioned Section 3.B.1 (Land Availability) stating,
that the Land Use Plan is indicated to be scheduled for review in the
future. He asked it were a reference to the Land Use Element.
Planner replied that the reference was to both the Land Use Element and the
overall General Plan; that growth limitations may lower the number of
housing units; and that growth trends are being monitored so that capacity
of the sewer plant is not exceeded.
Chairman explained that the General Plan is designed to meet existing
infrastructure at buildout.
Planner explained that every new General Plan Amendment is re-evaluated
regarding infrastructure.
M/S/C (Olsen/Dotson) continuing the public hearing to May 24, 1989.
TRIBAL COUNCIL COMMENTS
It was noted that a draft of the Revised Housing Element of the City of
Palm Springs was received by the Tribal Planning Consultant and the Indian
Planning Commission on May 8, 1989.
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After consideration of the recommendations of the Indian Planning Commis-
sion, the Tribal Council requested that the City Planning Commission con-
tinue the case to its next regularly scheduled meeting in order to provide
time for the Indian Planning Commission to review and submit recommend-
ations on the draft text.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Tom Bronston, 5275 Lakeside Drive (Municipal Golf Course) , stated that he
was waiting on a decision regarding the netting he installed in his back
yard to stop golf balls; and that he thought it was on the agenda.
Planner stated that perhaps the item could be put on the May 24 agenda;
that it was discussed at the April Planning Commission Study Session
regarding fencing on the golf course; that staff had discussed a redesign
of parts of the course (to alleviate dangers) with the Golf Course Superin-
tendent and that the City is going to decide whether or not the expenditure
of money for a golf course architect to review the course is feasible.
Mr. Bronston stated that the knoll discussed at the study session is a
flood control embankment; and that the lone dissenter (Dan Delacy) stated
that the net stops golf balls which then land in his yard.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS (Continued)
Planner explained that Mr. Bronston's neighbor attended the study session
and was concerned about the erection of the net because balls now fall into
his yard.
Mr. Bronston replied that several weeks ago Mr. DeLacy had a rope stretched
across his yard to keep golf carts out and that either a rope or a fence
could be built by his neighbor to stop the golf carts from entering.
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ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
CASE 3.0576. Application by CHRISTIAN ASSOCIATES for architectural approval of a
revised storefront for restaurant (The Hop) in the Desert Fashion Plaza, N.
Palm Canyon Drive, between Tahquitz-McCallum/Amado Road, C-B-D Zone,
Section 15.
Planner (Abbas) stated that when the AAC recommended a restudy, the issue
discussed was whether or not to leave the split-faced block or cover it
with stucco; that the AAC recommended the block and the applicant is only
stuccoing underneath the arch; that another issue was the existing awning
which the AAC did not like and the applicant has now changed it to a barrel
shaped awning which is approved by the AAC, if it is not truncated and also
a sample of the color is to be submitted.
In reply to Commission questions , she stated that the arch was popped
out for relief, and that there are two different businesses in the
building, but one sign (since the second business is inside) .
Commissioner Mills asked if the applicant preferred the barrel awning.
David Christian, 1000 S. Palm Canyon Drive, project architect, stated it is
not a major issue; that the awning would be one-fourth of a sphere; that
it is a design previously used by the applicant. He stated that the
restaurant will open in the fall .
M/S/C (Olsen/Edgmon) approving the application subject to the following
conditions:
1. That the awning on the main entrance on the southside of the building
be barrel shaped (not truncated) .
2. That the awning color be approved by the AAC.
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
°`' must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
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ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Continued)
CASE 5,0312 - MISC. - 0. Application by MARK TECHNOLOGIES for WECS 71 to con-
struct 47 wind turbines on Alta Mesa, one mile northwest of I-10/White-
water, Section 3, outside of Sphere-of-Influence.
Planner (Evans) that the AAC recommended denial ; but that the County pre-
viously approved a portion of the project and the applicant is now
requesting approval of the rest; that there are three different wind pro-
jects in the area; that more turbines are proposed toward I-10 including
some farther down than the turbines already approved; that if approved the
BLM may approve eight more on the adjacent property; that AAC consensus was
that the turbines should not have been placed there in the first place and
should be denied; and that the Commission should review and concur with
recommendations noted in the June 24, 1986 letter from the Planning
Director to County Planning Commissioner Betty Beadling.
In reply to Commissioner Dotson, he stated that there will be no impact
from the west, but the new turbines will be visible from the east and pro-
bably from Hwy 111 depending on the vantage point. He stated from a dis-
tance and to most people there will not appear to be more turbines; that
the area is very productive for wind energy; and the applicants want the
turbines located on the ridgeline (which will make them prominent) ; that
the County will address noise since it will not affect Palm Springs' resi-
dences; and that the County noise standards are stringent.
In response to Commissioner Whitney, he stated that environmental impacts
have been addressed and that the County is now reviewing visual impacts and
will prepare an environmental assessment; that the turbines effect on the
�-' natural habitat is negligible since they do not disturb the ground (but may
kill a few birds) . He stated that the project reviewed previously (April
26) is on Whitewater Hill ; that to the untrained eye there is little
difference in numbers of turbines; that the lower turbines could be
deleted; that the proposal could be reviewed as a gradual extension of the
existing park and that the AAC recommended denial .
Chairman stated that he would recommend to the County that there be better
supervision of the wind farms since many of the turbines are not operating
and should be removed.
Planner explained that the financial structure is very complicated legally
and it is difficult to abate the turbines; that the BLM is removing the
derelict wind park in Cabazon by removing all equipment and starting all
over again; that the Edison quarterly report indicated that less than 20%
of the turbines do not operate; and that all the turbines do not operate at
the same time because of different contracts but that they are operating on
a fairly regular basis.
Commissioner Whitney stated that the Commission should not allow anything
that has so much impact and so little control .
Planner stated that the site proposed is efficient since it is high on the
ridgeline.
Commissioner Mills asked about the bonding process for removing non-
operating turbines.
Planner stated that historically bonds are only $500; that the developers
felt that the projects would be scavenged so they did not have to worry
about removal ; that only copper is removed by scavengers because the rest
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CASE 5.0312 - MISC. - O. (Continued)
of the equipment is too bulky; that the new bond amount should be $5,000 or
more; that the County will try to get a reasonable bond; and that abatement
is difficult because the operators get tax credits and fight to keep the
turbines.
Commissioner Dotson stated that he was concerned about the visual impact
but the larger picture is that the turbines are the only clean energy
alternative; and that he supported the industry. He recommended that Row G
(turbines 22 through 34) should be eliminated.
M/S/C (Whitney/Mills; Dotson dissented) recommending to the County that the
47 new turbines be denied based on the following findings:
1. That the property is highly visible from Interstate 10 and Highway
111 and from the western end of the Coachella Valley.
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2. That development of the site has regional impacts which should be
considered in the decision making process.
3. That ridgeline development should be discouraged because of the visi-
bility of the site.
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4. That noise impacts/ continue to be analyzed independently which will
insure that residents and residential properties are not impacted by
the wind turbine noise.
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
CASE 3.0586. Application by WILLIAM G. KLEINDIENST for architectural approval of
8,000 square foot addition to Loehmann's Plaza, N. Palm Canyon
Drive/Racquet Club Road, C-1 Zone, Section 3.
Redevelopment Coordinator stated that the expansion is an extension of the
eastern building to the south, elimination of some existing parking and
replacement with new parking on a former pad site; that there is an error
in AAC condition #2 (delete N. Palm Canyon Drive, add Racquet Club) and
that the applicants were present.
M/S/C (Olsen/Edgmon) approving the application subject to the following
conditions:
1. That the on-site driveway adjacent to the Racquet Club entry be
redesigned to allow easier traffic flow.
2. That a pedestrian link be provided from the parking lot to the bus
stop on Racquet Club Drive.
3. That the new trash enclosure relocate to the west side of the service
drive.
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CASE -3.0586. (Continued)
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4. That the rear of the new building be landscaped.
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5. That the ribbon drainage be reviewed.
j CASE 7.727. Application by MEL HABER for an administrative minor modification
for increased height of house (2'9") at 700 W. Stevens Road, R-1-C Zone.
Planner (Abbas) stated that the Commission initially approved an addition
to the house for living quarters above the garage; that construction of the
plan as designed is not possible because an additional two feet nine inches
is required under an AMM; that neighbors have called in the past to com-
plain about the height blocking the view even without the additional height
proposed; and that the additional two feet nine inches is not framed pre-
sently.
Wendell Veith, 556 S. Sunrise Way, Project Architect, stated that the addi-
tional height is ready to be framed; that the complaining neighbor lives
400 ft. behind the addition and up the hill ; that the additional height
should not make a difference in the neighbor's view; and that in order to
make the addition work without the height, part of the ceiling and roof of
the house will have to be removed.
Planner explained that part of the existing house is on an a different
`.. level and that the original architect thought the house was all one level .
Mr. Veith stated that the difference in height would be seen in the middle
of the addition.
In reply to Commissioner Whitney, Planner stated that the neighbors were
complaining about the height of the original addition.
Commissioner Mills stated that he had spent time in the area and that the
height would not make a difference in the views.
Commissioner Dotson stated that the two foot nine inch height is a large
percentage and asked if it exceeds the Zoning requirement.
Planner (Evans) stated that the Commission can approve up to 30 ft. on the
hillside; that the Commission has to evaluate the loss of view, and that
there is a large setback on the property and only a small visual reduction
will occur. He stated that the site is an estate and no residences will
probably he placed closer to the house, and if they are in the future, the
applicants will know about the existence of the subject house.
M/S/C (Mills/Hough; Olsen abstained; Dotson dissented) approving the appli-
cation subject to the following conditions:
1. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be implemented.
�"' 2. That the massing of the original elevation be followed.
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MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
LUP. Application by CALIFORNIA AUCTION SERVICES for a one-day art auction May 28
at Maxim's Hotel , Section 15.
Zoning Enforcement Officer stated that provisions for art auctions are in
the Municipal Code; that no fees will be charged; and the only issue is
that there has been an auction at the hotel within the past three months.
Assistant City Attorney stated that no fees will be charged because the
state regulates auctions in municipalities and no fees can be charged by
municipalities except business license fees, although the revised Zoning
Ordinance stated that fees were going to be charged. He commented that
sales tax receipts would be the benefit to the City.
M/S/C (Olsen/Whitney) approving a one-day art auction at Maxim's Hotel on
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May 28.
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ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Continued)
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Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
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must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
20.112. Request by RIVERSIDE COUNTY to review proposed construction equipment
leasing facility at 27650 Executive Drive, north of Vista Chino, Sphere of
Influence.
... Planner (Evans) stated that the original building is in the Countyand was
built without a permit; that the building was red tagged on a remodel ; that it
,isa fairly large Butler building with accessory cedar wood buildings and a
six foot wall and gates; that the applicants want to store heavy equipment
for rental by U-Haul because of the large amount of resort and hotel
development in the valley; that the building is a large box with balconies
and a small tile roof, large doors, and swamp coolers on the roof.
M/S/C (Olsen/Whitney) for a complete restudy of the project including
building elevations, material , site plan, and landscaping.
CASE 5.0459-PD-193. EL CIELO ASSOCIATES for discussion of parking lot lighting
and landscape requirements for mixed use resort commercial at northeast
corner of El Cielo Road and Ramon Road, P Zone, Section 18.
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Chairman abstained, Vice-Chairman presided.
Planner (Evans) stated that at the April 26 meeting an adjoining project
(Case 3.0293) lights were reviewed and the Commission told the applicant to
consider lights similar to those at the airport. He stated that the archi-
tect for the subject project feels that the airport type of lighting is not
consistent with his ideas for lighting his project since a sodium light is
j not appropriate for a retail complex and would conflict with the building
codes and architecture. He stated that the AAC agreed with the architect.
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ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Continued)
CASE 5.0459-PD-193. (Continued)
Commissioners Whitney and Olsen remarked that the fixtures were reviewed
but not the bulbs.
Commissioner Hough stated that the AAC felt the lights should not be the
same as those at the airport, although the fixtures are similar.
Commissioner Olsen stated that the proposed fixture is the same as the
fixture in Case 3.0293.
James Cioffi , project architect, stated that he is working with the appli-
cant on the adjoining property for lighting compatibility between the two
projects and that there will be two different lighted areas for each pro-
ject (one for each perimeter and one different type for the main berming
row extending to the sites) and that the projects will tie together.
M/S/C (Hough/Edgmon; Mills/Lapham abstained) approving the application sub-
ject to the following conditions:
1. That the light source (bulbs) for both properties match.
2. That high pressure sodium lights (used at the airport) are not
acceptable on a commercial complex.
CASE 3.0555- (MINOR) . Application by MICHAEL BATES for architectural approval
canopy cover and paint spray booth at 672 S. Palm Canyon Drive, C-M Zone,
Section 23.
Planner (Evans) stated that the application should be reviewed by the
Commission because of actions taken by the commission on Motel 6 a few
years ago; that the proposal is to add two `. bays immediately behind the
Mag' Gas Station; that the AAC has recommended a restudy; that the appli-
cant agrees with the recommendation of screening of equipment, but has con-
cerns about the north property line landscape buffer and the existing
barbed wire since plantings at the Motel 6 which is adjoining property are
so small and the minutes approving Motel 6 do not reflect why the oleander
hedge was deferred; that the AAC recommended a landscaping buffer of trees
for screening from above; and that the AAC did not take action on the
building although it is similar to to those in the vicinity.
Commissioner Mills stated that the plant sizes at the Motel 6 site are too
small and should be reviewed.
Planner stated that he had not walked the site but knew that 24 inch box
size, Rhus Lancia and 5 gallon shrubs were approved; that the auto
repair shop owner : feels Motel 6 should provide the screening, not him. He
stated that the mechanical equipment screen is an attractive, clean lined
structure that slides over the swamp coolers and screens them from the top;
and that staff recommends that one duct down the side of the building be
left and painted out and the equipment screened.
repair shop owner,
Frank Bensi ,/672 S. Palm Canyon, stated that he did not mind screening the
coolers but he felt that the oleanders should be planted by Motel 6 because
the original conditions required it. He requested that the existing barbed
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ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Continued)
CASE -3.0555 (MINOR) . (Continued)
wire remained because offers protection against staff and vandalism of the
expense cars he services since the wall can be jumped. He stated that the
wall will be hidden by the Oleanders.
Commissioner Hough stated that the AAC recommended trees, not oleanders,
although the Commission previously approved oleanders.
Planner stated that the trees are installed but resemble large shrubs but
will reach 20 ft. in height and will be dense. He stated that the sizes of
the trees will be reviewed by staff.
Chairman commented that Motel 6 should screen the auto repair shop out of
view, and should want to.
Commissioner Hough agreed, stating that the applicant should not have to
hide his building from Motel 6; and that staff recommends that the barbed
wire be removed.
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Commissioner Edgmon agreed.
Commissioner Whitney asked about protection for the body shop if the
oleanders cover the fence.
Mr. Bensi stated that he has a guard dog, but it only watches the front,
and that it is easy to break into the shop. He offered to bend the barbed
wire horizontally so it does not show.
Commissioner Mills stated that not bending the barbed wire might make the
Motel 6 chain increase the size of its landscaping faster, but that either
bending the barbed wire horizontally or planting oleanders would be accept-
able.
M/S/C (Hough/Olsen) approving the application subject to the following con-
ditions:
1. That all mechanical equipment be screened.
2. That the requirement for the applicant to plant trees on his property
adjoining Motel 6 be deleted.
3. That barbed wire be either bent over horizontally just below the wall
level , or oleanders planted along the north property line.
4. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be met.
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
CASE 20.113. Application by RIVERSIDE COUNTY PLANNING DEPARTMENT for Commission
review of a Conditional Use Permit for a Water Extraction facility for Palm
Springs Water Company at the intersection of Highway 111/I-10.
Planner (Evans) recommended that the item be continued for receipt efleva-
tions.
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MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Continued)
CASE120.113. (Continued)
M/S/C (Edgmon/Olsen) continuing the item to May 24, 1989.
CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS. Update of City Council actions.
- TPM 23123. Council approved parcel map in Las Palmas for Peter Mckernan.
TPM 24346. Council approved map by John Wessman for industrial purposeson
Ramon/Gene Autry.
CASE 5.0400-ZTA. Council approved all Zoning Ordinance changes including
off-site real estate signs, but eliminated signs from Tahquitz-McCallum
Way, Tahquitz Way, and Palm Canyon Drive, subject to a one-year review and
a requirement that the real estate industry devise a plan for money to
support enforcement of the ordinance. Chairman commented that one of the
Councilmen will police it and if violations are found, the ordinance will
be repealed earlier than one year.
COMMISSION/STAFF REPORTS OR REQUESTS.
1500 Unit Timeshare Application. Commissioner Edgmon commented that little
direction was given to the applicant at the Joint Council/ Commission Study
Session on May 9 regarding setbacks and height limitations for a 1500 room
combined time share/hotel project on N. Sunrise Way.
Chairman commented that he had never seen a large project such as this
design placed on 30 acres with such concern, that he thought the plan is
exciting and that there is no place in the City where 150 ft. setbacks are
kept; and that 150 ft. is the closest the project will come to any other
project.
Discussion followed on setbacks and densit Chairman stated that the p ro-
y
ject will not impact anyone; and that tourism is the City's prime industry.
Commissioner Edgmon commented that the project looms over the site. Chair-
man commented that the undulating shape will break up the wind.
Planner Evans stated that the case would be reviewed at the May 24 meeting.
Commissioner Edgmon suggested stated that that painted color panels should
have been required on the Motel 6 project. Chairman agreed, stating that
the City should stop experimenting with trendy colors on major thorough-
fares; and that the Motel 6 color combination clashes with the tile.
Commissioner Olsen commented that there was much discussion recently on
selection of a color consultant for the City. Commissioner Mills stated
that the problem is that the Motel 6 is massive and that the three dominant
colors do not work well with the tile. He stated that experimenting with
trim colors is not a problem, and that Motel 6 should have painted a sample
color panel . Commissioner Edgmon suggested requiring that projects paint
color panels. Chairman noted that colors change from a small panel to a
large building. Planner Evans agreed, stating that colors change with the
time of day and the materials used as background.
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MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Continued)
L' COMM-ISSION/STAFF-REPORTS OR REQUESTS. (Continued)
WINNERS, 238 N. Palm Canyon. In reply to Commissioner Dotson's question,
Zoning Enforcement Officer stated that the checkerboard wall is gone at
Winner's Nightclub.
MOTEL 6, S. Palm Canyon. Commissioner Whitney stated that the landscaping
at Motel 6 is not pleasing and is very unsubstantial . Planner (Evans)
stated that he would inform the Planning Director.
ADDED STARTERS. (Determination of eligibility for consideration.)
None.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, Chairman adjourned the meeting at 3:30
P.m.
PLANNING DIRECTOR
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
Council Chamber, City Hall
May 24, 1989
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1988 - 1989
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to Date
Larry Lapham, Chairman X 20 2
Gary Olsen X 18 4
Barbara Whitney X 17 5
Brent Hough X 20 2
Martha Edgmon - 19 3
Chris Mills X 18 2
Michael Dotson X 19 0
Staff Present
Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director
Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney
Douglas Evans, Planner
Debra Goodwin, Planner
Sherri Abbas, Planner
John Terell , Redevelopment Coordinator
Amy Hodgett, Housing Coordinator
Tracy Gunneman, Economic Development
Dave Forcucci , Zoning Enforcement
Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee - May 22, 1989
Brent Hough, Chairman Absent: Mike Buccino
Will Kleindienst Tom Doczi
William Johnson Reuel Young
Jim Cioffi , alternate
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
M/S/C (Olsen/Hough) approving minut `s of May 10, 1989 )with the following
corrections:
Page 16, Paragraph 6; CASE 5.0511-PD-201. 700 unit timeshare/800 room hotel ).
Change 150 ft. to 1500 ft. Change 1500 unit timeshare to "700 unit timeshare/800
room hotel " .
Page 13, Paragraph 3; LUP. Delete "although the revised Zoning Ordinance stated
that fees were going to be charged" , r
Page 15, Paragraph 1; delete "staff"; add "theft".
REPORT OF POSTING AGENDA:
The May 24, 1989 agenda was available for public access at the City Hall exterior
bulletin board and the Planning Division Counter by 5:00 p.m. , Friday, May 19,
1989.