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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1989/04/26 - MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES Council Chamber, City Hall April 26, 1989 1:30 p.m. ROLL CALL F-Y 1988 - 1989 Present Present Excused Absences Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to Date Larry Lapham, Chairman X 18 2 Gary Olsen X 16 4 Barbara Whitney X 15 5 Brent Hough X 18 2 Martha Edgmon X 18 2 Chris Mills X 16 2 Michael Dotson X 17 0 Staff Present Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney Debra Goodwin, Planner Sherri Abbas, Planner Douglas Evans, Planner John Terell , Redevelopment Planner Dave Forcucci , Zoning Enforcement Dean Lewis, Traffic Engineer Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary Architectural Advisory Committee - April 24, 1989 Brent Hough, Chairman Will Kleindienst William Johnson Tom Doczi Mike Buccino Reuel Young Tom Doczi Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m. M/S/C (Dotson/Hough) approving minutes of April 12, 1989 with the following correction: Page 20, Paragraph 1; TPM 24346; Add: "Dotson dissented (feeling the light is not needed on Ramon Road between Gene Autry Trail/San Luis Rey) ." REPORT OF POSTING AGENDA: The April 26, 1989 agenda was available for public access at the City Hall exterior bulletin board and the PlanningDivision Counter b 5:00 y p.m. , Friday, April 21, 1989. April 26, 1989 PC MINUTES Page. 2 CONSENT ACTION AGENDA Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years . The approval granted must be exercised within that time period unless extended. M/S/C (Olsen/Hough) taking the following actions: CASE 3.0547. Application by GEORGIO HERRERA for architectural approval of a single-family hillside residence on Chino Canyon Road between Panorama/end of the road, R-1-A Zone, Section 3. Approved subject to the following conditions: 1 . That applicant is to submit all four elevations . 2. That roof plan is to be revised to provide better transition. 3. That better transition between east wall and lot grade be provided. CASE 3.0552. Application by JOSEPH CRNCIC for architectural approval of a single-family hillside residence on Ramon Road/Fern Canyon Drive, R-1-A Zone, Section 22. Restudy noting the following: 1. That the entry configuration at the roofing, stairs and drive be restudied. 2. That the driveway on the north side yard be deleted. 3. That the landscaping plan be revised. 4. That the building is too massive. CASE 3.0558. Application by MIKE GALLEGO for architectural approval of a commercial building (auto repair) on Oleander Road between Ramon Road/Camino Parocela, M-1 Zone, Section 19. Restudy noting the following: 1. That the building is too massive, needs more articulation. CASE 3.0559. Application by CANYON ESTATES for architectural approval of a single-family residence at 450 Bogert Trail , R-1-B Zone, Section 35. Approved subject to the following condition: That all recommendations of the Development Committee be implemented. April 26, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 3 CONSENT ACTION AGENDA (Continued) CASE 3.0561. Application by CANYON ESTATES for architectural approval of single- family residence at 3090 Goldenrod Lane, R-1-B Zone, Section 35. Approved subject to the following condition: That all recommendations of the Development Committee be implemented . CASE 3.0567. Application by NIGEL CLARKE for architectural approval of revisions to building at 445 N. Palm Canyon Drive, C-B-D Zone, Section 15. Approved subject to the following pp � ow g condition: That all mechanical equipment and vents be screened . CASE 3.0576. Application by CHRISTIAN ASSOCIATES for architectural approval of revised storefront for restaurant (The Hop) in the Desert Fashion Plaza, N. Palm Canyon Drive, south of Amado Road, C-B-D Zone, Section 15. Restudy noting the following: 1. That the split face block be left in tact. 2. That color scheme be subject to a field review and approval . 3. That the sign be restudied at the south end of the west elevation. 4. That the west awning be replaced. 5. That the doors on the west elevation be painted with the checked pattern of the tile. 6. That the front door awning be deleted. 7. That the tile band be more efficiently terminated. SIGN APPLICATION. Application by INTEGRATED SIGNS INC. for architectural approval of revised main identification sign for the Security Pacific Bank (formerly City National Bank) , 588 S. Palm Canyon Drive, C-1 Zone, Section 23. Approved as submitted. SIGN APPLICATION. Application by QUALITY PROJECT COORDINATORS for archi- tectural approval of a main identification sign for Motel 6, S. Palm Canyon Drive, PD-187, Section 23. (Reference Case 5.0437-PD-187) . Restudy noting the following: That colors and design should be more com- patible with building. i April 26, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 4 CONSENT ACTION AGENDA (Continued) 24. CASE 20.108. Request by RIVERSIDE COUNTY PLANNING DEPARTMENT for review of race track northwesterly of Gene Autry Trail , south of I-10, Sphere of Influence. Restudy noting the following concerns on the raceway site plan and building design: 1. That the raceway infield and parking area should be recessed to pro- vide additional screening (visual and acoustic) and to retain parking lot runoff on-site. 2. That the hotel , restaurant, museum, exhibit and rental garage area be redesigned to improve vehicular and pedestrian access. The organizational and operational relationships as proposed are weak. Pedestrian access from the grandstands to the exhibit center should be considered. 3. That perimeter buffers and design should be increased. Screening of access areas, rental garage area, museum, and restaurant should be increased . 4. That the possibility of relocating the rental garage area away from the museum and exhibit area be considered. 5. That the architectural design is acceptable in concept, however the overall concept should be tied together (eg. Mediterranean theme of hotel vs. contemporary theme of the exhibit area) . Particular attention should be placed upon scale, massing and detail . ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT ACTION AGENDA Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted must be exercised within that time period unless extended. CASE 3.0565 MINOR (Continued) . Application by ST. TROPEZ VILLAS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION for architectural approval of landscape revisions for a condominium complex on A1ejo Road between Calle Alvarado/Calle El Segundo, R-G-A-8 Zone (I .L.) , Section 14. Planner (Abbas) stated that the Homeowners Association had unwittingly cut down Sycamore trees around the perimeter of the St. Tropez Villas project and replanted with Queen Palms; that the AAC did not recommend approval feeling that the small size of the Queen Palms would not form a sufficient screen and the Committee recommended 24 inch box size; but that the planter is only 3 ft. wide and 24 inch box size trees may be difficult to plant. Jerry Ross and Cam Anderson, representing St. Tropez Villas Homeowners Association, stated that when cost of replacement trees increased after the nurseries repriced them; that the projects gardener located the 15 gallon trees which are bigger (at 6 feet) than the original 24 inch box size; that the citrus trees were an addition to the complex; that 22 trees had been added to the landscaping; that the original Sycamore trees April 26, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 5 ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued) CASE 3.0565 MINOR. (Continued) were removed because of root damage to the walls and the curbs; that the AAC did not have problems with the citrus trees but stated that they should be upgraded for screening of the adjacent Deauville project; and that the estimated height of the 24 inch box size trees will be 6 feet or smaller. Commissioner Hough stated that a good 24 inch box size should be larger than 6 feet; and that the AAC felt that more trees could be added between the Queen Palms; and that the Queen Palms will not match the size of the original Sycamores. Commissioner Mills stated that the Queen Palms Will be 20 feet high at maturity. Mr. Ross stated that he had pictures of 5 year old 20 foot Queen Palms. Commissioner Dotson asked if the trees were the proper ones for the area in and suggested a different species so that the appearance is not regimented. Planner replied that the type of tree was not discussed, only the size, and AAC wanted the height of the trees increased, not varied. Mr. Ross stated that the tree species was selected on the recommendation of the gardener. Commissioner Mills commented that the tree scheme was originally approved under the Planned Development District to create a hedge for screening of the Deauville complex and the buyers of the complex bought their condos under that premise; that the Queen Palms will not ever become a screen; that the planter is substandard; that a hedge type of plant that grows to 10 feet without a tree root structure should be planted; and that the water system should be changed to a deep watering type. Mr. Ross replied that a deep watering system had been tried and also that the Deauville owners were glad that the messy Sycamores were removed. M/S/C (Dotson/Mills) for a restudy of the landscape revisions noting Com- mission concerns . CASE 3.0516 (MINOR) . Application by McGRATH/BROWN INC, for architectural approval of a new store front and mechanical equipment screening for a restaurant (Marie Callendar's) in the Desert Fashion Plaza , N. Palm Canyon Drive, south of Amado Road, C-B-D Zone, Section 15. Planner (Abbas) stated that the applicants proposed a new storefront which had river rock veneer, which is not appropriate on Palm Canyon; that the revision is black and white tile and a screen for mechanical equipment on the roof; that the screen is very large and gives the appearance of a story in height; and that the AAC felt it was too massive and recommended there be a smaller screen only on the front to hide the April 26, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 6 ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued) CASE 3.0516 (MINOR) . (Continued) equipment from street view; and that no material was specified for the screening but the architect probably feels that the parapet appearance is too heavy. She stated that the other stores in the complex do not have mechanical equipment with screens. i Planning Director stated that the requirment to screen from above was approved after the stores were built. Planner stated that part of the outdoor dining will probably be in the city right-of-way if the dining is extended to the columns; that the encroach- ment will be studied; that an encroachment permit will be required from the City Council if the dining does encroach into the right-of-way; and that a sidewalk extension could be installed by the applicant. Commissioner Olsen commented that there would not be much room for pedes- trians and bottlenecks might result on the sidewalk around the outdoor dining area. Planning Director stated that the ordinance allows the Commission to alter roof screening requirements if the equipment is designed in a way that is not a problem or if it cannot be seen. Motion was made by Olsen to approve the application subject to the addition of roof screening all around and above. The motion died for lack of a second. Motion was made by Dotson for a restudy. The motion died for lack of a second. M/S/C (Mills/Olsen; Dotson dissented) approving the store front as submitted and restudying the roof screening. PUBLIC HEARINGS CASE .5.0504-PD-199 REVISED (Continued) . Application by M.H. SHASHANI for a revised Planned Development District to allow construction of a 66 unit apartment complex including density bonus on N. Indian Avenue between San Rafael Road/Simms Road, R-2 Zone, Section 2. (Commission response to written comments on draft Negative Declaration; no comments received; action.) Recommendation: That the Commission order the filing of a Negative Declaration and approve the revised Planned Development District subject to conditions. Chairman abstained, Vice-chairman presided. April 26, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 7 PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued) CASE 5.0504-PD-199 REVISED (Continued) . (Continued) �..r Planner (Abbas) stated that revisions were reviewed at the April 12 meeting and the AAC made recommendations, and that the Commission requested that the roof plan be submitted. Vice-Chairman stated that the issue was whether or not the detail carried around the roof all the way. He asked if the public hearing were closed. Assistant City Attorney stated that the Commission has the power to open the public hearing and also to hear comments from the applicant. (The public hearing portion was closed at the April 12 meeting. ) George Theodoro, 851 Unica Avenue, Rancho Cucamonga , stated that he was present to answer questions . Commissioner Mills stated that the slope of the roof is acceptable, but that the parapet should not be cut off in the back. He stated that this detail cannot be seen on the roof plan. Mr. Theodoro stated that over the patio balcony area the roof continues all the way around and that in the back the design is the same. Commissioner Mills suggested that the highest parapets at the roof continue back into the roof so that all sides are equal in height; and that the top of the parapet wrap around the end of the wall to the screened area for at least two feet in all cases . M/S/C (Mills/Edgmon; Whitney/Lapham abstained) ordering the filing of a Negative Declaration and approving revised PD-199 based on the following findings and subject to the following conditions: Findings• 1. That a P.D.D. is the proper application for this project. The developer is proposing various design conditions which differ from the standard zoning requirements including density bonus. 2. That the proposed use is a suitable and desirable use for the community. The proposed type of development is consistent with other multiple-family residential developments in the area. 3. That the proposed use is consistent with the General Plan. The existing designation is M-15 (Medium Density Residential with a 20% density bonus as is permitted by ordinance. 4. That the size and shape of the site is adequate to accommodate the proposed use. The site layout is an orderly design. 5. That Indian Avenue and San Rafael are adequately designed to accom- modate any traffic generated by this project. 6. That the conditions imposed are necessary to protect the public health, safety and general welfare of the community. April 26, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 8 PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued) CASE 5.0504-PD-199 REVISED (Continued) . (Continued) Conditions : 1 . That all Development Committee conditions dated February 7, 1989 shall be met. 2. That all the conditions of the environmental assessment for Case 5.0504 shall be met. 3. That the highest parapets of the roof continue back into the roof so i that all sides are equal in height. 4. That the top of the parapet wraps around the end of the wall to the screened area at least two feet in all cases . TTM 24518. Application by MERICKEL DEVELOPMENT for a Tentative Tract Map for the development of a 64 unit condominium project (Sungate) on the southwest corner of Baristo Road/Avenida Caballeros, PD-194, Section 14. (Environmental Assessment was previously prepared in conjunction with original P.D (#194) .) Recommendation : That the Commission approve the map subject to conditions. Planning Director stated that the map is a follow-up to a project approved recently by the Commission; that the map is for a subdivision for condo- minium purposes ; that the possibility of condominiums was known at the time of the approval of the project as apartments; and that staff recommended approval subject to all original conditions of approval of the Planned Development District. Chairman declared the hearing open. Richard Duffy, 1729 E. Palm Canyon, property manager for the Rose Gardens Condominium complex, asked if the proposal had been changed from an apart- ment to a condo. Chairman replied that the uses are equal . Mr. Duffy stated that the Rose Gardens owners had not succeeded in their objections to the project and thought at the time that it was an apartment complex. Planning Director explained that the project was originally an apartment project but the developer discussed the condominium map even though plan- ning to operate the complex as an apartment for a time and then decided to market the complex as a condominium; that the applicant has an option on the map to state whether the complex is an apartment or a condominium, and this was discussed with the Commission in the original presentation. There beingfurther no appearances; Chairman declared the hearing closed. April 26, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 9 PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued) TTM 24518. (Continued) �-- M/S/C (Olsen/Whitney) approving TTM 24518 based on the following findings and subject to the following conditions: Findings• 1. That a Tentative Tract Map is appropriate for consideration of this proposal . i 2. That the residential condominium use is necessary and desirable for the development of the community and is in harmony with the General Plan. 3. That the planned development (PD-194) was previously approved by the City. Conditions: 1. That all conditions of the Planned Development District 194 be implemented. PUBLIC COMMENTS Ralph Hitchcock, Manager of Southern California Edison, 1700 Tahquitz- McCallum Way, stated that he was advised that Desert Beautiful liked land- scaping and wall treatment of the Edison substation on Calle Amigos and Sunny Dunes ; and that he wanted to compliment the Commission and staff for the high standards required by the City that made the substation wall and landscape so attractive. Chaiman thanked Mr. Hitchcock. Planning Director stated that the applicant in Case 3.0560 requested permission to address the Commission on two conditions. M/S/C (Edgmon/Dotson; Mills abstained) approving reconsideration of the application and removing it from the Consent Action Agenda. April 26, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 10 ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued) CASE 3.0293. Application by DESIGN ASSOCIATES for architectural approval of detailed final landscape, lighting, and irrigation plans for an office com- plex on E1 Cielo Road between Tahquitz-McCallum Way/Ramon Road, "P" Zone, Section 18. Planner (Evans) stated that the project is almost finished; that the appli- cants are now requesting a subtle berming to buffer cars rather than a four foot wall on the E1 Cielo frontage; that staff recommends that the wall remain; that if a wall is approved,the adjacent project will be required to have one as well for continuity; that the berm cannot be four feet high because of the bikeway in front; that both projects although different in architecture have similar landscaping; that the applicant in the subject case has already ordered the light fixtures for the parking lot; that the AAC recommends that both projects use the same fixture; and that the sub- ject light fixtures are 16 feet high and similar in design but the pole is different with a different quality of light and was choosen because it is easier to install and maintain. He stated that the light fixture chosen is about the same height and style as the Airport parking lot lights but that the poles are different. Planning Director recommended that the height of the poles be the same. Chairman suggested that the two project designers meet and design a similar treatment for both projects ; and that whatever the Commission approves on the short wall will dictate the remainder of the wall . Dave Duplanty, 3231 Ocean Park Blvd. , Santa Monica, Project Architect, stated that he had reviewed the location and lights with staff and had ordered them; that the fixtures are similar to the Airport ones in design and are an upscaled fixture; and that there have been meetings with the landscape architects for both projects to develop a similar berming con- cept. Chairman stated that he did not see a problem with the light because it is the same size, wattage and color as on the adjoining project. Commissioner Edgmon replied that one light is square and the other is rec- tangular. Mr. Duplanty gave the dimensions and showed a picture of the lights. Commissioner Whitney commented that the fixture does not look the same and that it should. Chairman suggested that the Commission make a condition that the frontage of both projects be the same so that there is continuity along the street. Planner explained that there was anissue on the wall , and also that land- scaping screens and berms do not always provide buffering. He asked if the Commission wanted to take action later on the wall . April 26, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 11 ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued) CASE 3.0293. (Continued) Chairman stated that if a landscape mounding scheme that hides the parking lot can be developed, it could be allowed but if not, a wall should be required and that a three of four foot block wall is less expensive than berming. Commissioner Hough suggested that a wall treatment be used because of trim- ming of landscaping that reduces the ability to hide the cars. Planning Director stated that berming works well at the Airport to hide the cars, but there was more frontage and more area on which to develop the berming. Commissioner Hough asked about the original configuration of the side- ' walk/bikepath. Planner stated that the sidewalk evolved into a bikepath. i Commissioner Hough stated that the original submittal was berming and land- scaping. Chairman reiterated that the project visually should appear the same from the street and the autos must be hidden either with the wall and/or land- scaping and berming. M/S/C (Edgmon/Whitney; Mills abstained) approving the landscaping subject ' to the following conditions: : 1. That the palm tree size be increased . 2. That the parking lot lighting plan and light fixture be coordinated with the adjacent property (one light fixture type for both projects is recommended) . 3. That the planting island next to the building and drive be redesigned (relocated walks and add landscaping) . 4. That a minimum 6 ft. separation between the sidewalk and bikeway be provided. 5. That accent lighting be added to the building. 6. That parking lot screening required by the Zoning Ordinance (4' buffer) shall be coordinated with the adjacent development. 7. That the need for a fire department turnaround be evaluated. April 26, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 12. ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued) CASE 3.0541 (MINOR) . Application by SBS INC. for architectural approval of a modular home at 400 W. Mesquite Avenue, W-R-3 Zone (I .L.) Section 22. Chairman abstained, Vice-chairman presided. Planner (Abbas) stated that the proposed home is a manufactured one and is to be used as a guest house, although the property has multiple zoning, and is not a guesthouse in terms of application; that the AAC recommended that the home reflect the architecture of the main house, especially in window style and also requested that elevations of all four sides of the building be submitted. She stated that the lot is a hillside condition but that no grading will be done except for the second house, and that the loop road is already in existence. Dick Bradshaw, 34500 Date Palm Drive, Cathedral City, the developer, stated that the house is a HUD built house and cannot be modified easily; that the house is the same color and character and the roof is like that of the main house; that window treatment cannot be changed because the house is already built; that the house integrates specifically into the city under the new state laws regarding manufactured housing; that the house is ready to be stuccoed and the tile roof put on; and that the product is of high quality. Commissioner Hough suggested that windows be made to appear larger and Mr. Bradshaw stated that it could be done. Commissioner Dotson asked about HUD's involvement and about overhangs on the west side. Mr. Bradshaw stated that all factory built structures are under HUD and the industry is heavily coded. He stated that there is a west overhang on the building which may not be shown on the drawing; that the appearance could be improved if there were more decorative treatments ; and that there is a detailed HUD process for stuccoing. Planning Director explained that the area is an architectural approval area and the design and content are required to be approved by the Commission. He stated that the law states that the regulations cannot be any more stringent than those of a stick-built house; and that the Commission can review the site and the integration of the manufactured home with the main house. Vice-Chairman stated that the site will be seen and any structure should be of high quality. Planning Director stated that the Tribal Council has an easement on the McGlamary property, which will be one of the major accesses into the Tahquitz Canyon. Vice-Chairman commented that this structure should be one that the City is proud of. Commissioner Mills stated that the house does not approach hillside �, standards of the City. April 26, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 13 ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued) CASE 3.0541 (MINOR) . (Continued) M/S/C (Mills/Dotson; Lapham abstained) for a restudy of the application noting the following: That the second unit should follow the same elements as the main house (windows, walls) . Planning Director reminded the applicant that he can appeal the restudy to the City Council . i CASE 3.0560. Application by CANYON ESTATES for architectural approval of a single-family residence at 300 Bogert Trail , R-1-B Zone, Section 35. Planner (Abbas) stated that a condition was placed on the house regarding chimney height with a maximum height to be eighteen feet; and that the height shown on the elevations is 26 ft. Robin Young, 416 N. Coast Highway, Laguna Beach, applicant, stated that the chimney height and fire sprinklers were the two issues he would like to discuss . He stated that the canyon hotel is four minutes from the fire station and the house is only 20 seconds beyond the hotel ; that the chimney style is part of a 30's ambieance; that the horizontal look is enhanced by the verticle chimney, which ties the project to the ground, and accentuates the horizontal ; and that the chimney height is 23-25 ft. Chairman stated that the Commission cannot grant (because of the ordinance) more than 2 feet above the highest ridgeline (which is 18 feet) ; that fire sprinklers are a Fire Department condition; and that both conditions require a variance and staff cannot find grounds. Mr. Young stated that the house is only 5 minutes from the Fire Station. Planning Director explained that the Milner tract is out of the 5 minute response time and the map on the display board shows the Canyon Hotel well outside the 5 minute reponse time; and that the determining factor for response time is set by the City Council . Commissioner Mills asked if caps were part of the chimney height. Planning Director stated that they could be. Planning Director stated that the height of the chimney cannot exceed the ' minimum of the UBC in total height. Commissioner Mills recommended a varied type of cap element but stated that the proposed treatment may be somewhat extreme, and that he would like to scale it. He stated that a compromise could be reached on the height. Planning Director suggested that working drawings be reviewed on the chim- ney height; and if it is excessive, the chimney height can be brought back to the Commission for review. Chairman suggested a flue opening two foot above a 10 ft. projection with a design element above the opening which would not violate the Zoning Ordinance. April 26, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 14 ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued) CASE 3.0560. (Continued) Planner stated that the chimney height was left by the AAC for Commission review. M/S/C (Mills/Dotson) approving the application subject to the following conditions: 1. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be implemented. 2. That the flue opening of the chimney be two feet above the ridge and the cap detail reviewed by staff (to be resubmitted to the Commission if staff has concerns) . i CASE 3.0562. Application by KIM CONNER for architectural approval of single- family hillside residence at 2249 Rim Road, R-1-B Zone, Section 25. Planner (Abbas) stated that the AAC recommended restudy because of several concerns. Kim Conner, 2290 Araby, the applicant, stated that he agreed with the land- scaping and elevation restudy of the AAC, but felt that the roof line was acceptable because the ceilings in the house are high; and also that there is a variety of architecture in the area. �..: Commissioner Mills commented that there was only one home in the area that was approved by the AAC and Planning Commission; that the proportions of the house seem awkward; and that the north elevation appears to be good on the street but the other elevations suffer; that something similar to the north elevation should be integrated into the other elevations; that the window treatment is poor; and that there should be overhangs . Mr. Conner stated that he had only 57 feet to work with. Commissioner Mills suggested non-bearing wing walls and a overhang extending into the setback, and stated that there are problems on the lot; but that the house could be more aethetically designed. Discussion continued. Commissioner Olsen suggested that the plans should be restudied. Commissioner Hough stated that an AAC concern was that the garage doors can be seen, but it would be difficult to redesign the house so the doors are not visible. Mr. Conner explained that the entire west elevation is not visible from a public area since it is on the wash. M/S/C (Olsen/Hough) for a restudy of the application noting the following: 1. That the roof be revised to blend roof lines . 2. That overhangs be provided. 3. That the windows on east and west elevations be updated. April 26, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 15 ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued) CASE 3.0562. . (Continued) 4. That landscape plans be revised to provide shade trees such as Palo Verde or Mesquite in the wash area. SIGN APPLICATION. Application by ARTECH SIGNS INC. for architectural approval of revised main identification sign for restaurant (Carrows) on E. Palm Canyon Drive, R-3 Zone, Section 26. Zoning Enforcement Officer stated that the old monument sign will be replaced by the proposed monument sign which is a metal can, plastic faced sign with routed letters ; and that the AAC recommended approval subject to two cabinets and making the monument larger and wider. He stated that the sign uses the new colors of the restaurant but that the adjoining hotel sign is not the same type. He stated that the AAC discussed a wood, instead of plastic, faced sign but was concerned that irrigation water would ruin the wood so the Committee recommended approval of the plastic with matte finish. He stated that there are many matte finish signs in the City. M/S/C (Hough/Edgmon; Mills dissented) approving the application subject to the following conditions: 1. That cabinets be stacked in two with "Open 24 hrs." being separation point. 2. That the monument be longer and wider, subject to staff approval . NOTE: Commissioner Mills dissented because he liked the old sign. CASE 3.0481 (MINOR) . Initiation by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS for architectural approval of revised landscape plans and entry sign for a median island on N. Indian Avenue between Las Vegas/Tram View Roads, 0 Zone, Section 34. Redevelopment Coordinator stated that the sign is at the north entry way of the City; that it is similar to the sign on E. Palm Canyon; that there will be desert landscaping around it and Palm Springs Gold trailings; that the annual colors will be moved to focus on the sign and that shrubs will be planted in a raised planter. Commissioner Mills commented that the landscape appearance is weak; that if the City puts up signs they should make a good statement; that the sign on E. Palm Canyon is poor; that innovative ideas can be done even with economic problems of the City; and that the wood is unaccepable. Planning Director stated that no water will hit the sign. Commissioner Mills commented that desert landscaping should be done well and Commissioner Dotson agreed. M/S/C (Mills/Dotson) for a restudy of the application. " April 26, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 16 ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued) CASE 3.0481 (MINOR) . (Continued) Commissioner Olsen suggested that since the sign concept for entryway signs is new in the City direction should be established. Planning Director asked the Commission to go and look at the signs since most people like them and stated that the main entry signs on E. Palm Canyon and S. Palm Canyon have superior backdrops for their signs. He stated that comments are mostly positive on the signs. Commissioner Whitney stated that she did not like the sign on E. Palm Canyon either. ADDED STARTERS. (Determination of eligibility for consideration. ) M/S/C (Edgmon/Olsen) determined that Case 20.108 is eligible for consider- ation. CASE 20.108. Request by RIVERSIDE COUNTY PLANNING DEPARTMENT for review of race track northwesterly of Gene Autry Trail , south of I-10, Sphere of Influence. Planner (Evans) stated that the Commission should review the site plan and architecture and that the EIR has just been received by staff and had not been reviewed; that the AAC recommended restudy with several conditions; that noise from the track will be intrusive and loud (65 db) in North Palm Springs; that night track racing is a legitimate concern because of noise; that berming will be expensive for the applicant and unless it lowers the noise significantly it might be an expensive condition; and that the appli- cants have not answered questions about the berming. Chairman stated that. if the earth is moved to build the project there will be dirt for berming (and should not be a problem) ; and stated that it takes 3 or 4 days to grubb the site and do the berming. He stated that the main cost is delivering equipment to the site. Planner showed the site plan on the board and discussed ingress and egress. He stated that buffers were an AAC concern and a substantial buffer should be built, not a 5 ft. strip of landscaping; that the architecture of the hotel needs refinement because of the Mediterranean theme proposed for the hotel and the contemporary design for the exhibit area; that the AAC recom- mended filling in the back of the grandstands; that the hotel orientation should be refined since it may not be practical to have guests face the racetrack on a day-to-day basis; that the museum area has a poor design with little parking; and that the office and hotel areas need good pedes- trian elements. Commissioner Hough stated that the AAC made good suggestions. Commissioner Edgmon commented that she felt that night time racing wou.l.d .be a problem. April 26, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 17 ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued) CASE 20.108. (Continued) �-� Planner explained that he would take Council and Commission concerns to the County Planning Commission on May 3. Commissioner Whitney stated that she was opposed to the entire concept because of noise, traffic, and circulation problems and the impact upon the natural surroundings; that weather conditions are not good for testing of equipment; that the project should have been discussed at its inception; that the site plan and architecture show lack of thought; that there are many problems with the project; and that she is in complete opposition to the project. Commissioner Mills asked about the type of control the City y could have over the architecture since it is weak. He stated that the hotel will be larger than the Wyndham. Chairman stated that it was inappropriate to have a Mediterranean architec- tural theme on a modern auto race track; and that the architecture should be a high quality, contemporary look that fits into an industrial park area. Planner stated that the County wants comments from the City before a public hearing is scheduled and before the County meeting with the developer on design issues; and that the track owner wants the Mediterranean theme which is a difficult style to coordinate with industrial buildings. In reply to Commissioner Olsen 's question, he stated that the drainage water cannot be allowed to go into the Fringe-Toed Lizard preserve and that the project will be annexed in the future, and the City will have some control over it. In reply to Commissioner Edgmon's question, Planning Director stated that he did not know whether or not the City will have leverage of night racing if it annexes the area. Planner recommended that Commission go on record regarding night drag racing because of its noise. Chairman suggested that the back part of the strip be bermed to contain the noise. Commissioner Edgmon commented that she also opposes the project but knows that it will be approved. Planner explaind that the EIR is not final ; that the update will have to be brought back to the Commission; and that the large sign reviewed by the Commission previously had not been resubmitted. M/S/C (Hough/Mills; Whitney dissented; Dotson abstained) for a restudy noting the following concerns: 1. That the raceway infield and parking area should be recessed to pro- vide additional screening (visual and acoustic) and to retain parking lot runoff on-site. April 26, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 18 ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued) CASE 20.108. (Continued) 2. That the hotel , restaurant, museum, exhibit and rental garage area be redesigned to improve vehicular and pedestrian access. The organiza- tional and operational relationships as proposed are weak. Pedestrian access from the grandstands to the exhibit center should be considered. 3. That perimeter buffers and design should be increased. Screening of access areas , rental garage area, museum, and restaurant should be increased. 4. That the possibility of relocating the rental garage area away from the museum and exhibit area be considered. 5. That the architectural design is acceptable in concept, however the overall concept should be tied together (eg. mediterrean theme of hotel vs. contemporary theme of the exhibit area) . Particular atten- tion should be placed upon scale, massing and detail . 6. That berming at the end of the track be investigated to mitigate j noise. DETERMINATION. Planning Commission determination that the sale of the Oasis Water Park property is not in conflict with the City's General Plan. I M/S/C (Olsen/Hough) that the determination is eligible for consideration. Planning Director stated that the City owns the land which is currently under lease to the Oasis Water Park operator and that the land originally was bought by the City for expansion of the Wastewater Treatment Plant which may not be necessary. He stated that the operators of the water park are purchasing 20 acres between the Edison substation and the Treatment Plant on Mesquite. M/S/C (Mills/Olsen) that the sale of the Oasis Water Park is not in con- flict with the City's General Plan. ADMINSTRATIVE NOTE: Assistant City Attorney stated in regard to abstentions, that when a Commissioner abstains, he states his reasons for abstaining because unless there is a valid reason, a Commissioner has the duty to act on any matter. MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS. Update of City Council actions. Case 5.0501-CUP. Council had a split vote and the night lighting applica- tion was denied. April 26, 1989 PC MINUTES Page 19 MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Continued) - TPM 23755 (Holt Group) . Council approved the map application. Case 5.0357-PD-155. Council approved final development plans. Planning Director stated that there is a buyer for the property and the housing division representative will help with State funding. Commissioner Dotson asked if holding the application for so long to approve the final development plans is circumventing due process. Planning Director stated that the final development plans were deferred at the Council level and that the applicant is allowed to request this. Reorganization . Report on reorganization of the Department of Community Development will be given at a future meeting. - Easing the Process. Staff has been brainstorming and more staff approvals and more approvals at the AAC level I may 9 be forthcoming.I - Case 5.0400-ZTA. Council will be reviewing amendments to the Zoning Text on May 3. - Recycling. Commissioner Dotson requested that the Director of Aviation & Energy report on the recycling program to the Commission since very little information has been given to the public by the City. - General Plan Survey. Staff will give a future report. There has been some resistance to changing the General Plan although the City is not in danger of being sued because of lack of an updated General Plan document. - Adjourned Meeting. Council and Planning Commission will hold a joint meeting soon on a 1500 unit timeshare at the north end of Sunrise Way. COMMISSION/STAFF REPORTS OR REQUESTS. None. ADJOURNMENT There being no further business to discuss, Chairman adjourned the meeting at 4:10 p.m. PLANNI G DIRECTOR MDR/ml PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES Council Chamber, City Hall May 10, 1989 1:30 p.m. ROLL CALL F-Y 1988 - 1989 Present Present Excused Absences Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to Date Larry Lapham, Chairman X 19 2 Gary Olsen X 17 4 Barbara Whitney X 16 5 Brent Hough X 19 2 Martha Edgmon X 19 2 Chris Mills X 17 2 Michael Dotson X 18 f0 Staff Present Douglas Evans, Planner Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney Debra Goodwin, Planner Sherri Abbas, Planner John Terell , Redevelopment Coordinator Dave Forcucci , Zoning Enforcement Dean Lewis, Traffic Engineer "'' Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary Architectural Advisory Committee - May 8, 1989 Brent Hough, Chairman Absent: Mike Buccino Will Kleindienst William Johnson Tom Doczi Reuel Young Tom Doczi Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m. M/S/C (Olsen/Dotson) approving otson a roving minutes of�April 26, 198 with the following corrections: Page 2, second paragraph: Delete "Approved" ; add "Restudy noting the following: (Case 3.0547) . Page 18, Paragraph 6: Delete condition No. 5. Add revised condition #5 as follows: : 115. That the architectural design concept should be reevaluated. The overall concept should be tied together (eg. mediterranean theme of hotel vs. contemporary theme of the exhibit area) . Particular attention should be placed upon scale, massing, and detail . A contemporary design theme should be considered for all facilities (Case 20.108) ."