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Council Chamber, City Hall
• November 23, 1988
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1988 - 1989
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to Date
Larry Lapham, Chairman X 9 2
Gary Olsen - 8 3
Barbara Whitney X 9 2
Brent Hough X 9 2
Martha Edgmon X 10 1
Chris Mills X 8 1
Michael Dotson X 8 0
Staff Present
Marvin D. Roos , Planning Director
Frank A. Balistrieri , Deputy City Attorney
Sherri Abbas , Planner
Margo Williams, Planner
Douglas Evans , Planner
Dave Forcucci , Zoning Enforcement
Dean Lewis, Traffic Engineer
Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee - November 21 , 1988
• Brent Hough , Chairman
Will Kleindienst
William Johnson
Reuel Young
Tom Doczi
Mike Buccino
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
M/S/C (Hough/Edgmon) approving minutes of November 9, 1988 as submitted.
ADMINISTRATIVE NOTE:
Planning Director introduced Frank A. Balistrieri , new Deputy City Attorney, who
addresses code and zoning enforcement issues.
• REPORT OF POSTING AGENDA:
The November 23, 1988 agenda was available for public access at the City Hall
exterior bulletin board and the Planning Division Counter by 1:30 p.m. , Friday,
November 18, 1988.
November 23, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 2
CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
• Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended .
M/S/C (Whitney/Edgmon; Olsen absent) taking the following actions:
CASE 3.0328 (Continued) . Application by CENTER BELARDO COMPANY for architectural
approval of detailed landscape, irrigation and exterior lighting plans for
a two-story commercial building on N. Palm Canyon Drive, between Alejo
Road/Amado Road, C-B-D Zone, Section 15.
Restudy noting the following:
1. That more lasting material be provided.
2. That a landscape lighting plan be provided.
3. That a planting plan for the balcony planters be provided.
4. That a 24" box is the minimum size along the street frontages and the
street trees should also include some 36" box specimens. (No 15-
gallon trees are to be permitted on the plan and the trunk height of
the tree should be specified, minimum 10 to 12 feet.)
5. That more trees be provided overall on site.
6. That shrubs be on a separate irrigation system than the lawn area.
7. That colored plans be submitted.
CASE 3.0053. Application by ED KANAN for architectural approval of revised roof
line and patio walls for apartment complex on Ramon Road/Grenfall Road, R-2
Zone, Section 23.
Denied.
CASE 3.0463 (Continued) . Application by JOHN STANFORD for Vito Distefano for
architectural approval of detailed irrigation , exterior lighting, and
landscape plans for single-family hillside residence on Lilliana Drive, R-
1-B Zone, Section 27.
Approved subject to the following conditions:
1 . That trees be added to the east side.
2. That shade trees be added to the west side of the house.
3. That vertical height plant materials be added to the northwest and
southwest corners of the building.
• 4. That details be reviewed informally by staff and one of the landscape
architects on the board .
November 23, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 3
CONSENT ACTION AGENDY (Continued)
• CASE 3.0471 (MINOR). Application by ALAN HALLEY for architectural approval of a
two-bedroom addition extension of a garage and a new front for a single-
family hillside residence at 2423 Tuscan Road, R-1-B Zone, Section 3.
Approved subject to the following conditions:
1 . That the garage be 20 ft. deep per Zoning Ordinance requirements .
2. That the bottom two courses of glass block be deleted so that the
bench height and planter height meets a solid wall and not the glass
block as proposed.
3. That working drawings be submitted to the AAC for review and
approval .
4. That the existing mechanical equipment be screened in a manner
acceptable to the Planning staff.
5. That the water heater and air conditioning unit proposed for the
addition be enclosed within a closet.
CASE 3.0481 (MINOR). Request by CITY OF PALM SPRINGS REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY for
architectural approval of landscape plans for a median island on North
Indian Avenue between Las Vegas/Tramview Roads , "0" Zone, Section 34.
• Restudy noting the following: Committee reiterated its previous comments
with respect to design and is not an issue of plant materials chosen for
this area but is a matter of design and the execution of that design .
CASE 3.0488. Application by GREAT WESTERN BANK for architectural approval of as-
built wrought iron railings at the bank at 499 S. Palm Canyon Drive, W-C-B-
D Zone, Section 15.
Restudy noting the following:
1. That the applicant is directed to contact the original architect for
possible suggestions on design .
2. That the existing wrought iron railing be allowed to remain for the
interim period until a design can be approved and installed.
CASE 5.0437-PD-187. Application by MOTEL 6 for architectural approval of
revisions to pool area and fencing for a 150 unit hotel on S. Palm Canyon
Drive between Camino Parocela/Sunny Dunes Road, R-2/C-2/C-M Zones, Section
23.
• Denied noting the following: Stating that the planter area south of the
pool remain at 10 ft. in width per the previously approved plans . The
Committee further directed the applicant that revisions to the poolside
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CONSENT ACTION AGENDY (Continued)
• CASE 5.0437-PD-187. (Continued)
and deck area could be made; however, if any of the landscaped areas were
to be reduced or compromised , the plan would have to be reviewed by the
AAC.
SIGN APPLICATION. Application by IMPERIAL SIGNS for RPM Rent-A-Car for
architectural approval of main identification sign for business at 540
Vella Road , M-1 Zone, Section 19.
Approved subject to the following conditions:
1. That the outer band be increased by 2"-3" .
2. That only the portion surrounding "RPM" be lit.
3. That the size be reduced to 3' x 5' .
4. That the sign be pulled away from building corners .
CASE 3.0482 (MINOR). Application by MARIO SAIKHON for architectural approval of
exterior alternations to an existing building at 1081 N. Palm Canyon Drive,
• C-1 Zone, Section 10.
Restudy noting the following:
1. That the architect needs to provide the improvements to all four
sides of the building, not just the north and east side.
2. That the design needs to be carried throughout the building.
3. That the building design needs to be more cohesive.
4. That colored plans are to be submitted.
ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years . The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
CASE 3.960 (Continued). Application by BOB RITCHEY for the Palm Springs Mall for
architectural approval of mechanical equipment screening for a community
shopping center on Farrell Drive between Tahquitz-McCallum Way/Baristo
Road, C-S-C Zone, Section 13.
• Planner (Williams) explained the screening design and stated that one
member of the AAC dissented, feeling that the parapet design is not a
proper solution, and that the architect should use a split system.
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ITEMS REMOVE CONSENT ACTION AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.960. nued)
Commissioner Mills commented that much time and effort ,�verespent on the
th elevation of the wall and its skylights; that any screening will
b ock the skylights; ao that the architect should have allowed for the
gquipment in the design .
Planning Director explained that staff recommended that the skylights be
moved closer to the front so they became the screen and to maintain the
skylight element, but the suggestion was not followed.
Commissioner Hough commented that the AAC also felt that the skylights were
an important feature.
M/S/C (Whitney/Dotson; Olsen absent) restudying the application noting the
following:
1. That a roof plan and a mechanical plan be submitted which illustrate
a clustering of the equipment and the smoke evacuation system. The
architect was directed to explore the use for the possibility of
using a split system.
2. That cross sections through the roof area showing the relationship of
the mechanical equipment to the roof line be provided.
• CASE 3.0428. Application by PERRY FREEMAN for architectural approval of a
revised site plan and elevations for the 171 room Compri Hotel on the
corner of Tahquitz Way/Avenida Caballeros , C-1 Zone (I .L.) , Section 14.
Planner (Williams) explained that the Council sent back the architecture to
the Commission; that the applicants have submitted a new site plan and new
elevations; and that the AAC recommended approval subject to conditions .
Planning Director stated that the Council has, as a result of the
application, discussed the quality and standards of hotels and reiterated
its desire to have high standards for Tahquitz-McCallum and Palm Canyon
Drive on new major projects. He stated that the Council did not discuss
room rates; that the project is in excess of normal height limits and also
in distance from the curb.
Planning Director stated that the AAC expressed concerns over the parking
arrangement although it has been moved from Tahquitz; that the building has
been moved closer to Tahquitz, and that height is discretionary with the
Commission.
Planner stated that the tower elements are 50 ft. , that the building
setback is 25 ft. and that the parking count exactly meets code.
• Planning Director stated that if credit were given for the porte-cochere
parking possibly 4 or 5 spaces could be deleted.
November 23, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 6
ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT ACTION AGENDA (Continued)
• CASE 3.0428. (Continued)
In reply to Commission question , Planner stated that the zoning of the
project site allows an setback of 20 ft.
Commissioner Whitney stated that the corner is very important and deserves
a high quality building; and that she did not like the roof height,
setbacks , nor the massiveness of the building.
Commissioner Dotson stated that he agreed with the dissenting AAC opinion
that the building is too close to the corner; and that the pool area is not
well designed since it gets no sun and is too crowded.
Commissioner Hough stated that one of the AAC members dissented because he
liked the previous site plan; and that the AAC did not like the massiness
of the building and the shaded pool location.
Commissioner Edgmon asked if the window air conditionoing units were a
concern of the Council .
Planning Director stated that he did not know if the air conditioning units
were a major design issue of the Council , but the screening was and also
the quality of the hotel . He stated that Councilman Foster was shown the
plans but felt the air conditioning window units were not a major problem.
• Jim Blockberger, project architect, stated that the hotel is a quality
project with its tower elements, undulating setbacks and entry landscaping;
that the Council suggestions have been followed; and that he did not know
where the design was failing.
Commissioner Whitney replied that screening of the air conditioning is a
problem and also the quality.
Mr. Blockberger stated that the air conditioning is a through wall type and
will not be visible; that the hotel is a quality project; that working
drawings will be submitted for Commission approval ; that the hotel is
oriented toward businessmen and is not a destination resort hotel and that
the pool is a convenience and the sun is not a major concern. He stated
that the pool deck is of high quality material and more details will be
included in the working drawings; and that the building is interesting and
the tower elements enhance it.
In reply to Commission question, he stated that the moldings around the
windows will be plastered to match the cast stone, will have a good
appearance , and that the moldings have been used on award winning
buildings; that the texture is a smooth finish; that there will be a
landscaped courtyard with a seating area off Tahquitz; and that the change
in orientation of the front of the hotel creates more interest.
Commissioner Mills replied that the solid balcony appearance of the
screening of the air conditioning is a concern; and that the AAC should be
• shown the detailing.
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ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT ACTION AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.0428. (Continued)
Mr. Blockberger stated that the design of the screening will be effective
and that the only other solution would be to go to a different mechanical
system. He stated that the glass could be pulled down as an option and
that there are varying overhangs for interest on Avenida Caballeros.
Commissioner Edgmon stated that losing an hour of sun each day is not
inconsequential ; and that the applicants are underestimating the problem.
Mr. Blockberger replied that the Compri is a fine hotel chain which is
mainly geared to businessmen; that the Palm Springs Compri has been
reviewed by the hotel owners and the group loves it; and that the pool is
bigger than in other Compri hotels and is a convenience for businessmen .
He stated that the pool area will be restudied in the working drawings and
that the pool works in conjunction with the Compri Club which is a main
function of the hotel .
Planner stated that after measuring the roof plan the tower would be 85 ft.
from the setback, 120 ft. from the property line, and that the second tower
is 150 ft. , all from Tahquitz.
In reply to Commission question, she stated that the roof tile is an "S"
tile.
Commissioner Mills stated that the design is a major step forward; that
. other hotels do not have sun on their pools; that north elevations on
Tahquitz should be redesigned; that the massing on the entrance on
Caballeros will break the monotony of the window patterns and that the
approach could also be used on the Tahquitz side . He stated that the site
plan is good; that the corner element is not a problem since is steps back
quickly; that the elevations have depth and the roof line moves; and that
the extra height helps. He stated that the roof tile should be "Barrel
Mission and mudded since the architecture calls for that treatment; that
the building has quality as long as the Commission reviews the detailing;
and that the Council should have no concerns. He commented that he was
almost sure that the through wall air conditioning units would have to be
deleted and another system devised.
Chairman comented that the north-south portion of the "H" design could be
shifted to the south for more depth on Tahquitz; that the balconies are not
acceptable; and that the tile should be barrel .
Commissioner Whitney agreed , but stated that she did not like to see a
stucco and tile roof theme develop on Tahquitz; that she did not like the
Marriott, and that she did not like the balconies or buildings of the
Compri .
Commissioner Mills suggested more substantial landscaping against the
building on the east side; that parking should be placed on the south side
to allow more landscaping; and that landscaping should also be added to the
• southwest corner. He stated that staff could help the applicant.
M/S/C (Mills/Hough; Olsen absent; Whitney dissented) approving the
application subject to the following conditions:
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ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT ACTION AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.0428. (Continued)
1. That the entry on Caballeros and Tahquitz be enhanced with
landscaping. Details to be submitted with final landscape plans .
2. That working drawing details be provided of the cornice , fascia, and
grill work proposed.
3. That the railings be of a decorative material or design.
4. That no bronze anodized frames be used for the windows . (That the
window frames should either be wood or a color coated aluminum
complementary to the building.)
5. That the pool area be restudied to explore the possibility of
increasing the sunning area. (Details to be submitted with final
landscape plans.)
6. That fountain details of the main entry fountain and the fountain
located at the corner of Tahquitz Way and Caballeros be submitted
with final landscape plans.
7. That the roof tile be changed to a mudded Mission Barrel tile.
8. That the window air conditioning units be deleted and a new air
conditioning system designed.
• 9. That the windows be designed to come all the way down to the bottom
of the railing.
10. That more landscaping be added on the east and southwest sides .
11. That the Tahquitz elevations be restudied per Commission concerns on
massiveness , height and proximity to the corner.
12. That the Tahquitz elevations be submitted before review of working
drawings by the Commission .
13. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be met.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
TTM 23760/CASE 3.0452 (Continued). Application by ASL CONSULTING ENGINEERS for
Don Robertson and Raymond Smith for revised plans for a tentative parcel
map and revised architectural plans for an industrial subdivision on Gene
Autry Trail south of Mesquite Avenue , M-1 Zone, Section 19.
(Commission response to written comments on Draft Negative Declaration; no
comments received; action.)
• Planner (Evans) presented the project at the board and stated that revised
elevations were submitted by the applicant; that the Fire Department has
new conditions of which the applicant is aware; that
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
• TTM 23760/CASE 3.0452 (Continued)
Sunline Transit requested a bus shelter and turnout (but the Traffic
Engineer says the site is too small ); that the bus stop and shelter will be
considered at another location; that Sunline was advised of the meeting but
did not come; and that the AAC recommended rather extensive conditions. He
stated the lots are substandard and approval of a master plan is required;
that the driveway intersects with Gene Autry at a 90 degree angle; and that
the driveway, decorative paving and the median island were recommended for
approval by the committee. He stated that the building has been redesigned
for more articulation; the parking revised, and that the deadends remain but
are gated off for vehicular storage only (no outside storage of material )
since the area is required to meet parking requirements. He stated that
the AAC recommended approval of the concept including site plan and
elevations subject to several conditions; that the project is one-phrased;
and that the parapet height it not high enough to hide swamp coolers .
In reply to Commission question, he stated that the approval is very close
to a restudy, although the map is recommended for approval .
Commissioner Mills asked about the abutment of buildings and the space
between .
Planner explained that there is a one-foot separation between the buildings
which is closed on the sides with a fin wall and with sheet metal for the
roof.
• Chairman declared the hearing open.
Frank Mungia, Temecula , project architect, stated that he concurred with
AAC and staff recommendations , that the layout concept is acceptable; and
that all/woUld be constructed at the same time.
uniIn reply to Commission question , he stated that skylights are designed for
the warehouse area; and that fencing in the back will be for storage of
trucks and vans to reduce vandalism.
There being no further appearances; Chairman declared the hearing closed.
Chairman explained that staff is recommending approval of the map only with
all other details to come back to the Commission.
In reply to Commission question, Planner stated that there was no setback
requirement on the side and rear property lines .
Commissioner Mills suggested that the building elevations be more undulate
and that overhangs be added.
M/S/C (Hough/Dotson; Olsen absent) giving concept approval of Case 3.0452
subject to the following conditions:
1. That concept is approved for the revised building elevation, site
• plan , and landscape plan .
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
• TFM 23760/CASE 3.0452 (Continued)
2. That the full architectural approval submittal be submitted showing
all 11 buildings with emphasis on the following elements:
(a) That portions of window and canopy (spacing and size) .
(b) That a roof plan and mechanical equipment screening details be
submitted .
(c) That details pertaining to roof drains be submitted.
(d) That an increase in the use of color and treatment be explored.
(e) That the canopy details and attachment to the building be
provided.
3. That the site plan be revised to address the following concerns:
(a) That the site plan comply with Zoning Ordinance (9306) relating
to parking.
(b) That details with respect to the wall material and location of
wall be provided.
(c) That an outdoor eating area for the employees be considered.
• (d) That the location of the gate, its mechanical function, and its
material be provided .
4. That a sign program be submitted for review and approval by the
Architectural Advisory Committee and the Planning Commission.
5. That a lighting plan be submitted. (The lighting plan should include
landscape lighting exterior building lighting, and parking lot
lighting.
6. That the landscape plan be reevaluated to include more
trees along the north property line, a restudy of the street frontage
and relation to existing and approved projects on Gene Autry Trail .
In addition, the London Plane tree is to be deleted;
and,
approving TTM 23760 based on the following findings and subject to the
following conditions:
Findings
1. That a tentative tract. map is the appropriate application for an
eleven lot subdivision.
• 2. That the proposed tentative tract map and associated architectural
approval application meets the intent of the M-1 Zone.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
• TPM 23760/CASE 3.0452 (Continued)
3. That the proposed commercial/industrial/warehousing uses are not in
conflict with the General Plan .
4. That the proposed subdivision is not detrimental to the surrounding
properties.
5. That an environmental assessment has been prepared and that no
significant environmental affects have been identified .
Conditions
1. That all Development Committee conditions be implemented.
CASE 5.0400-ZTA. Initiation by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS of an amendment to
9212.00 (C-1) of the Zoning Ordinance to amend the list of permitted uses .
(Commission response to written comments on Draft Negative Declaration; no
comments received; action.)
Recommendation: That the Commission order the filing of a Negative
Declaration and approve the amendment.
• Planning Director stated that the amendment is a result of the North Palm
Canyon Project Area Committee which wants to solidify, encourage, promote ,
and protect the gallery atmosphere which is developing along N. Palm
Canyon; that urgency ordinances have been adopted to continue the gallery
atmosphere; and that the Tribal Council requests continuance of the
amendment to December 28, but there will be no meeting on the date. He
stated in review of the gallery district the uses of the C-1 Zone were
found to be appropriate except for auto part sales and liquor stores which
will be required to apply for conditional use permits, and that Palm
Springs is one of the least regulatory agencies regarding liquor stores in
the state since most cities require CUP's for all liquor stores. He stated
that there will be some discrepancies in other zones such as the M-1 Zone
because of the movement to a CUP; that the gray areas are small stores like
7-11's and Circle K' s. He asked if the Commission would consider expanding
to offsale liquor in general .
Chairman asked for the status of existing liquor stores .
Planning Director replied that in C-1 Zones they would operate as though
they had a CUP; and that the point of non-conformity would be for a
business not to be in operation for 180 days which would then not be able
to come back without a CUP. Expansion or relocation would also require a
CUP. He stated that the liquor stores would not be non-conforming unless
they were prohibited in the zone.
Chairman declared the hearing open , there being no appearances the hearing
• was closed.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
. CASE 5.0400-ZTA (Continued)
Planning Director recommended continuance until January 11 with review at
the December 21 study session to discuss further regulation of liquor
stores.
In reply to Commission question, he stated that a use that is prohibited in
the zone that precedes an ordinance or annexation has a ten-year time clock
for amortization and can apply for extension of time.
M/S/C (Whitney/Edgmon; Olsen absent) continuing the review of the amendment
to January 11, 1989 and placing the discussion of the amendment on the
December 21 study session .
TRIBAL COUNCIL CONMENTS
In keeping with its policy of reviewing and commenting on those land use
cases that are City-wide in nature, this case was considered by the Tribal
Council at its meeting of November 22, 1988.
After consideration of the recommendations of the Indian Planning
Commission, the Tribal Council took the following actions:
1. Concurred with the filing of a Negative Declaration.
2. Noted that the proposed zoning text amendment would affect a number
• of undeveloped trust parcels currently zoned C-1.
3. To provide adequate time to review and evaluate the potential impact
of this proposed amendment on undeveloped trust land, the Tribal
Council requested that this case be continued to the City Planning
Commission' s meeting of December 28, 1988.
CASE 5.0496-CUP. Application by INTERACTIVE DESIGN CORPORATION for Gentry
Development, Inc. , for a Conditional Use Permit to convert a structure for
office uses at 1445 North Sunrise Way (Ranch Club) , R-2 Zone, Section 11.
(Commission response to written comments on Draft Negative Declaration; no
comments received; action.)
Recommendation: That the Commission order the filing of a Negative
Declaration and approved the application subject to conditions .
Planner (Abbas) stated that the property has had many uses through the
years and that the applicants are requesting a general office complex which
is allowed in an R-2 Zone by CUP. She stated that the AAC recommended
approval subject to conditions .
Commissioner Dotson asked how much of the property would be demolished.
• Planning Director replied that approximately one-third of the building (the
single story section) would be demolished.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
• CASE 5.0496-CUP (Continued)
Chairman declared the hearing open .
Rueul Young, Civic Drive , project architect, stated that the applicant
wanted to save the historic quality of the building but the rear portion
violated ordinances and will be rebuilt; therefore, the perspective of the
project was changed. He stated that there are three sensitive issues:
proximity to the residences to the south, no street frontage, and formerly
offensive uses of the building. He stated that the office use proposed in
a much more modest one and that the building will have awnings integrated
with the structure; balconies , and outdoor circulation with a driveway area
replaced by grass and a fountain; and that the outdoor area will remove
activity from the residences to the south and a good environment will be
created for the offices. He stated that it is a negative aspect that there
is no street frontage. He explained that because there is very little
tile, "Barrel " tile will be used for the roof.
David Rous , the applicant E1 Segundo, stated that he took a deteriorating
building and turned it into a well-designed, useful one.
There being no further appearances; Chairman declared the hearing closed.
Commissioner Edgmon commented that the neighbors would probably be
delighted with the proposal .
• M/S/C (Mills/Edgmon; Olsen absent) ordering the filing of a Negative
Declaration and giving final approval to the application based on the
following findings and subject to the following conditions:
Findings:
1. That the proposed office complexes are properly one for which a
conditional use permit is authorized by the Zoning Ordinance.
2. That the proposed improvements , specifically the new office
buildings, are desirable for the community and are in harmony with
the existing development, and the General Plan , and are not
detrimental to the neighborhood.
3. That the site, being 1.6 acres in size and irregular in shape, can
accommodate the proposed improvements including yards , set-backs ,
walls, landscaping, and parking.
4. That the site is located on Sunrise Way which is adequate to handle
anticipated traffic.
5. That conditions of approval upon the site are necessary to protect
the public heath , safety, and general welfare.
Conditions:
1. That all recommendations the Development Committee Coinditions dated
October 14, 1988 shall be met.
November 23, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 14
• PUBLIC COMMENTS - None.
ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
CASE 5.0067-PD-87. Application by WILLIAM GIETTER for architectural approval of
final development plans for Phase II of business park/mini-warehouse
complex on McCarthy/Radio Roads , M-1 Zone, Section 34.
Planner (Abbas) stated that the project is an old one with a business park
and E-Z Storage use; that the E-Z Storage is built and the applicant is
requesting approval of final development plans for the business park; that
more than two years have elapsed from the construction of the E-Z Store;
and that staff is recommending approval of the extension of the Planned
Development District. She stated that the design issues were resolved with
the AAC which recommended approval subject to several conditions.
Planning Director explained that the ordinance revisions of two years ago
require that planned development districts , stopped for more than two
years, have to have Commission approval to continue (without a public
hearing); that the building materials of the property line walls might
allow a mural ; and that in the past the walls have been vandalized with
graffiti . He stated that the property to the east may develop and hide the
wall but the property to the south is residential , and that he has not
discussed a mural with the applicant.
Chairman asked about the AAC objections to the air conditioning on the
ground .
Planning Director answered that the wall units will not completely air
condition the space (only the office portion) and the initial construction
should develop the screening system for the additional air conditioning.
In reply to Commission question , he stated that there is a twenty foot
setback by right of zone, but the Planned Development District was designed
as an M-1 project (before R-2 Zoning); and that the Planned Development
District should be continued. He stated that there are carports on the
side facing the residences .
Wendell Veith, 556 S. Sunrise, project architect, stated that the applicant
wants precision block on the east and south because of the M-1 Zoning
originally on the property; that split-face block was shown just above
doors and windows because of the breaks in the buildings, because of the
length of the E-Z Store there was a continuous repeat and the AAC might
have been thinking about that when it made its recommendation for a
continuous band; that the parapet can be raised to hide mechanical
equipment; and that because the nature of the occupancy is not known , the
units will be 10 by 12 with bathrooms and the air conditioning covered by
40 landscaping.
November 23, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 15
ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT ACTION AGENDA (Continued)
• CASE 5.0067-PD-87. (Continued)
In reply to Commission question, Planning Director hated that the Planned
Development District has not expired; that part of the construction has
been done; that it is discretionary with the Commission for a time
extension to allow the final phrase; and that the blue line drawings shown
are the same as the actual architecture.
Commissioner Mills stated that he did not feel that the architecture and
the blue lines were the same; and that the stepping of the wall should be
part of the architecture. He stated that he did not feel that either the
stepping nor the architecture were acceptable.
Commissioner Dotson commented that he did not like the south elevation;
that he did not know whether or not a mural would solve the problem; that
the architecture is not the same as the blue line; that screening and that
increased elevation would impact the residents to the south even though
there would be a parking structure between the project and the residential
area.
Planning Director replied that instead of screening by a wooden structure,
perhaps the air conditioning could be sunken into wells; that striping was
deleted and recommended to be reviewed by staff as well as the split rib
facing. (Planning Director circulated photos of split-rib band condition) .
He stated that the band was deleted in construction and that the buildings
• in the area are industrial in appearance.
Mr. Veith stated that a screening design could be developed.
In reply to Commission question, he stated that the building was designed
for a specific size retail unit and because of the grading situation the
units was broken up logically through the buildings .
Chairman suggested that the vertical breaks in the wall be restudied and
redesigned differently and that the roof line be redesigned.
M/S/C (Mills/Whitney; Olsen absent) extending the planned development
district (no certain date) and restudying the final development plans
noting the following:
1. Exterior material to match existing EZ 2 Store.
2. Split rib to be one continuous band around building.
3. Parapet to be provided to screen roof mounted equipment.
4. Property line wall to be alternating split face and rib face block.
5. Ground cover to be provided under the shrubs .
6. Roof line be redesigned.
7. The wall to be redesigned and the steps made part of the
architecture.
November 23, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 16
ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT ACTION AGENDA (Continued)
. CASE 3.0486. Application by ERNIE NOIA for the Palm Springs Senior Center for
architectural approval of an addition and remodel to existing building on
the northeast corner of Ramon Road/Sunrise Way, "0" Zone, Section 13.
Planner (Williams) explained the project on the board. She stated that the
application was recommended for approval , but that one of the members was
opposed because of the colors , and the bellow window and the mass of the
north elevation; and that the buildingwill have two tones of gray with a
turquoise trim.
Chris Mills, 121 S. Palm Canyon , project architect, stated that the bellow
window was designed to soften the corner of the building and to eliminate
view blockage of the park and is not a haphazard element. He stated that
the mass area on the north has much depth and that also it will not be seen
because of the Boys' Club building.
Commissioner Whitney stated that the Senior Center will be constructing a
brick patio and walkway similar to that of the Village Green and asked the
color of the bricks .
Mr. Mills stated that he would be involved in the selection of the color to
make sure that it blends with the building. He stated that the brick color
tones will be submitted with landscape plans.
Commissioner Hough stated that he liked the design but felt that the main
entry should be given more sense of entry, perhaps with hardscape.
Mr. Mills stated that he was designing the landscape plan from a hardscape
standpoint and that it reads strongly as an entry.
In reply to Commissioner Dotson's question, he stated that the trellis is
new and will be a shade structure for an outdoor room and that horizontal
elements in the new portion of the building are also in the existing
building. He stated that the donors' wall has breaks and the glass area
will be lighted for a natural light area for a strong emphasis.
Chairman commented that the building is very interesting.
M/S/C (Whitney/Dotson; Mills abstained; Olsen absent) approving the
application subject to the followings conditions:
1. That final landscape, exterior lighting, and irrigation plans be
submitted for review and approval .
2. That the entry to the building be accented with hardscape and
landscaping. (Details to be submitted with final landscape plans . )
3. That a sample of the proposed stone be submitted to the AAC for
review and approval prior to installation.
4. That the brick tones of the walkway and patio coordinate with the
colors of the building.
• 5. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be implemented.
November 23, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 17
• MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
DISCUSSION. PLANNING COMMISSION discussion of murals on vacant walls in the City
and possibility of doing a sample on a downtown wall .
Zoning Enforcement Officer stated that the Redevelopment Agency has been
working on a plan to cosmetically change the east side of 300 block of Palm
Canyon, through painting, refurbishing, and landscaping; and that there is
a plain wall on the south side of Bruener's which would be ideal for a
mural which could be viewed by pedestrians. He stated that the design
would be done by a professional and will be an enjoyable conversation piece
and that Jeannie Reller of the Economic Development Commission (EDC)
Downtown Committee knows an artist who would be interested.
Jeannie Reller, EDC, stated that on the lot next to Bruener' s there will be
grass , park benches , a sprinkler system, and . would be a draw for that
end of town. She stated that no ideas have been developed yet, but that
one of the artists that she had in mind painted the Indian on the Palm
Springs High School wall and the mural at Highland Community Center.
In reply to Chairman' s question, she stated that the artist would prepare a
sketch for Commission review.
In reply to Commissioner Dotson' s question, she stated that funding will
have to be discussed, but that there are funds in Redevelopment, and that
operation "Face Lift" for the east side of Palm Canyon is under budget.
She stated that the design would involve the community.
Commissioner Dotson stated that public art funding should be investigated
and that there should be significant input from the Historic Board
regarding subject matter.
Commissioner Hough stated that the Commission should review the proposal
and the mural should be of professional quality.
Mrs. Reller stated that she agreed.
Chairman stated that the Commission must be careful in setting a precedent
regarding text and quality.
In reply to Commissioner Edgmon' s question, Mrs . Reller stated that the
City will maintain the grass in the park.
Planning Director stated that the Commission should direct staff to work
with the EDC Downtown Committe and bring back a proposal which would
eventually be reviewed by the Public Arts Commission when its membership is
selected.
Chairman recommended that the proposal be shown in color and scale.
Planning Director stated that the property is not owned by the City and
that there could not be a park until approval is given by the property
• owner.
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MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Continued)
. DISCUSSION (Continued)
Mrs . Reller stated that all property owners have been sent letters with
color chips for building colors .
Planning Director stated that an agreement could be developed with the
property owner that includes a cancellation clause.
Mrs. Reller stated that no funds have been received from the owners of the
buildings, but everyone involved is enthusiastic.
Planning Director circulated pictures of murals from other cities.
Commission consensus was that the concept is viable but the mural design is
to be reviewed by the Commission before work is started.
LAND USE PERMIT (LUP) - AUCTION. Application by PERRY KALIL for Oriental Rug
Liquidators , Inc. for Commission approval of LUP granting a one time
auction of rugs on December 9, 1988 at 8:00 p.m. at Maxim' s Hotel , 285 N.
Palm Canyon Drive , CBD Zone, Section 15.
M/S/C (Edgmon/Dotson; Olsen absent) approving a land use permit for a one
time auction of rugs on December 9 at Maxims Hotel .
CASE 10.365. Staff request for PLANNING COMMISSION discussion regarding hotel
lobby conversion to retail space for the Fairmont Hotel , 641 N. Palm Canyon
Drive, C-1/R-3 Zones , Section 10.
Planning Director stated that prior to the recent zoning ordinance
revisions commercial was allowed in resort hotels with 40,000 sq. ft. of
lot area, but the criteria is now 100 rooms. The room count of the subject
hotel is less than 40 rooms and the proposal would be a mixed use with no
criteria for retail space on Palm Canyon.
One part of the hotel continues as a small restaurant and staff recommends
denying the conversion by the method of a determination which would set a
precedent for conversion to retail space without the necessary parking. He
stated that the mixed use concept could be considered under a planned
development district along with a property upgrade.
Commissioner Edgmon stated that she could see many problems if conversion
were allowed.
Commissioner Hough agreed, and stated that he was concerned about precedent
setting.
Robert Burnham, subject property owner, stated that he had not applied for
anything and that the issue has been raised by Planning staff; that the
• tenant was advised that he needs to make application for the retail space,
but the tenant said he could not because of his lawyers' advice,
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CASE 10.365 (Continued)
that the tenant is legally leasing space currently. He stated that he had
not consulted counsel , that he wants to use the space as retail , that he
had tried to find a gallery tenant, which would be ideal , but could not,
that galleries do not have large parking volumes , and that he would take
action after the City' s decision.
Commissioner Mills stated that a planned development application for a
mixed use would be an appropriate application and would upgrade the
property but the use has problems as it exists .
M/S/C (Hough/Edgmon; Olsen absent) denying conversion of a hotel lobby to
retail space in the Fairmont Hotel .
CASE 10.366. PLANNING COMMISSION discussion/determination regarding used car
sales as an accessory use to a car rental facility, citywide.
Planning Director stated that staff recommends against using car sales as
an accessory use to car rental agencies because of the difficulty in
monitoring them; that used car sales are allowed in the "A" Zone and no one
has taken advantage of it; that the Airport is promoting sales because of
the revenue; and that an alternative could be to amend the ordinance to
allow a limited period of time for the sales under a land use permit which
• would allow staff review rather than a blanket allowance. He stated that
dealers could be asked about the length of time necessary to sell the cars
and the use would be allowed on a case by case basis; and that staff feels
that once a year should be sufficient.
Commissioner Mills suggested that staff ask smaller dealers about the
length of time they need, since they might have more problems.
Zoning Enforcement Officer stated that car rental agncies sell cars 12
months a year, and that it would be difficult to determine which cars are
being legitimately sold.
Chairman suggested that private sales be eliminated and a certain amount of
time be given to advertise and sell the cars .
Commissioner Dotson asked for the rationale against used car sales as a
primary use since classic cars do not always have a good appearance.
Planning Director stated that he did not know the original rationale, but
in the past used car lots have a varigated appearance and unappealing
architecture and lack of maintenance , and the use was disallowed years ago .
He stated that it is true that some of the classic cars are not really
classics . He stated that used car lots do not have the quality appearance
of a new car fleet.
• M/S/C (Edgmon/Hough; Olsen absent) directing staff to amend the Zoning
Ordinance to allow used car sales on an individual basis under a land use
permit. (The use is not allowed by right of zone) .
November 23, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 20
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Continued)
CASE 20.109. Request by RIVERSIDE COUNTY for Planning Commission review of a
change of zone from W-2 to City of Palm Springs on the northwest corner of
Gene Autry Trail/Vista Chino, Sphere of Influence (County #CZ 5321) .
Planner (Evans) stated that the change of zone is inappropriate since the
current zoning is W-2, which is controlled development, and the proposed
zoning is highway commercial . He stated that the County does not have a
contract on Indian land .
Chairman stated that the adjacent residents could sue because of the
proposed change in zone .
Commissioner Mills agreed , stating that the allowance of CPS development
will be the development that occurs , and suggested that the County contact
the neighbors and also develop specific setbacks addressing the situation
if the County allows the zoning.
Chairman stated that houses are built there now, and that the people on the
west are in the city limits .
Planner stated that annexation would be to the City of Palm Springs, the
Council is reviewing expansion of the City into that area and that the
maximum height limit is 50 to 75 feet.
• Chairman stated that the City has not protected its entryways . He
suggested that staff develop language to indicate to the County that CPS
Zoning standards should not be allowed as a blanket use in such a sensitive
residential area because it is poor planning, and there is a liability.
M/S/C (Whitney/Edgmon; Olsen absent) recommending denial of the change of
zone from W-2 to CPS.
DETERMINATION 10.366. PLANNING COMMISSION determination that a car
leasing/rental and on-site storage use is an allowable use in the C-S-C
Zone, City-wide.
Planner (Williams) stated that the Palm Springs Mall requested allowance of
a car rental agency and on-site storage after the lease had already been
signed with the tenant, and that the staff informed the mall manager that
the leasing office is allowable but that storage and maintenance and
rentals have to be off-site. She stated that the Commission determination
would be to store leased cars on-site (the proposal was twenty cars) with
the washing and maintenance to be off-site; and that the mall manager was
in the audience but had to leave.
Planning Director stated that staff recommends denial except for a leasing
office and that there was no parking shortage at the mall but the major
issues are carwashing and maintenance which lack control and are not a
. purpose of a community shopping center.
November 23, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 21
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Continued)
• DETERMINATION 10.366. (Continued)
Commissioner Edgmon stated that there could be a parking problem depending
on location of the car rental spaces .
M/S/C (Edgmon/Dotson; Olsen absent) determining that a car rental and on-
site storage use is not an allowable use in the CSC Zone.
CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS. Update of City Council actions.
CASE 5.0487-CUP (Smoketree Stables). Council approved a 10-year time
extension for the CUP.
TTM 23288 (Voss Investments) . Approved by the Council .
TPM 23123 (McKernan). Approved by the Council .
COMMISSION/STAFF REPORTS OR REQUESTS.
Case 3.960 - (Palm Springs Mall ). Repainting is following the approved
plan, but the paint cannot be matched because of the fading of the old
paint and looks brighter; eventually the Mall will probably all be
• repainted. The Mall has been sold and there is no certificate of occupancy
because of corrections that need to be done. The paint will tone down the
colors and the hot pink will be deleted. A Certificate of Occupancy is
necessary for the sale of the property.
Mobile Home Sales Lot on I-10 and Indian Avenue. The sales lot does not
even meet County requirements but the County will not abate the use because
of lack of personnel . It is in Supervisor Ceniceros' district and staff
will contact her by letter.
- Case 20.013 (TPM 22631) . This subdivision at the corner of I-10/Palm Drive
is in the Sphere of Influence and staff went to the East Area Planning
Commission to give City recommendations on premature development and a
recommendation against subdivision of the land. Staff was asked the
reasons for its being at the meeting and why City comments had not been
received. Staff did not attend previously but had transmitted the denial
recommendation. Staff reviewed access issues and the County agreed with
the City, but approved the project without the conditions the City
recommended. The new member of the EAPC seems to want to upgrade the
County requirements , but supervisors will not impose additional conditions
on developers because the County does not want City of Palm Springs'
standards.
Chairman commented that because of politics and individual districts , no
one cares about the County at large.
• - Palm Springs Liquor Store, N. Palm Canyon Dr. (former Gilligan' s
Island) . The owner is painting and refreshing the property by City
directive. Desert Hospital is discussing expanding into the area of the
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• COMMISSION/STAFF REPORTS OR REQUESTS. (Continued)
tennis courts with medical offices which would remove the problem at the
liquor store at its present location , but the owner would probably relocate
and the problem will resurface with the store relocation because the
clientele is the problem.
FAX NUMBERS. Planning Director requested FAX numbers of the Commissioners.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, Chairman adjourned the meeting at 4:25
p.m.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
Council Chamber, City Hall
December 14, 1988
• 1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1988 - 1989
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to Date
Larry Lapham, Chairman X 10 2
Gary Olsen X 9 3
Barbara Whitney - 9 3
Brent Hough X 10 2
"lartha Edgmon X 11 1
Chris Mills X 9 1
Michael Dotson X 9 0
Staff Present
Marvin D . Roos , Planning Director
Siegfried Siefkes , Assistant City Attorney
Sherri Abbas , Planner
Margo Williams , Planner
Richard Patenaude , Planner
Douglas Evans , Planner
John Terell , Redevelopment Planner
Wif1 Miller, Traffic Engineering Assistant
Frank+' Balistrieri , Deputy City Attorney
Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
• Architectural Advisory Committee - December 12, 1988
Brent Hough , Chairman
Uill Kleindienst
'illiam Johnson
Reuel Young
Tam Doczi
Mike Buccino
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
I'./S/C (Hough/Edgmon ; ',;hitney absent) approving minutes of November 23, 1988 with
the following correction :
CASE 20. 100. Pace 2C, Paragraph 1 , Change City of Palm Springs to "CPS" .
ADMINISTRATIVE NOTE:
There were no Tribal Council Comments .
REPORT OF POSTING AGENDA:
. The December 14, 1988 agenda was available for public access at the City Hall
exterior bulletin board and the Planning Division Counter by 1 :30 p.m. , Friday,
December 9, 1988.