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Council Chamber, City Hall
October 26, 1988
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1988 - 1989
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to Date
Larry Lapham, Chairman X 7 2
Gary Olsen X 8 1
Barbara Whitney X 7 2
Brent Hough X 7 2
Martha Edgmon X 8 1
Chris Mills X 7 0
Michael Dotson X 6 0
Staff Present
Marvin D. Roos , Planning Director
Siegfried Siefkes , Assistant City Attorney
Sherri Abbas , Planner
Margo Williams, Planner
Douglas Evans, Planner
Dave Forcucci , Zoning Enforcement
Dean Lewis, Traffic Engineer
Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee - October 24, 1988
Brent Hough, Chairman Absent: William Johnson
Reuel Young Will Kleindienst
Mike Buccino Tom Doczi
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1 :30 p.m.
M/S/C (Olsen/Dotson; Mills absent) approving minutes of October 12, 1988 with the
following corrections:
Page 4. Case 5.0344-PD-164, Paragraph 3, should read .. . "right on the
blackboard display" .
page 14. Case 5.0491-CUP. Last paragraph motion should read . . . "Whitney
absent; Dotson dissented" .
October 26, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 2
ELECTION OF OFFICERS
M/S/C (Olsen/Whitney) unanimously re-electing Larry Lapham as Chairman.
M/S/C (Edgmon/Mills) unanimously electing Gary Olsen as Vice-Chairman.
REPORT OF POSTING AGENDA:
The October 26, 1988 agenda was available for public access at the City Hall
exterior bulletin board and the Planning Division Counter by 1:30 p.m., Friday,
October 21.
CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
M/S/C (Olsen/Hough; Mills absent) taking the following actions:
CASE 3.0445. Application by OUR LADY OF SOLITUDE CHURCH for architectural
approval of revised plans for a new education building for the church at
151 W. Alejo Road, C-B-D/R-4-VP Zone, Section 15.
Approved subject to the following conditions: That final working drawings
be returned to the AAC and Planning Commission prior to issuance of a
building permit.
NOTE: The AAC had the following concerns:
1. That the parapet design should be changed because of possible
technical problems.
2. That windows should be added to the building.
CASE 3.0324 (MINOR). Application by CHRIS MILLS for architectural approval of
minor revisions to the exterior of the Liebling Building on the northeast
corner of Tahquitz Way/North Palm Canyon Drive, C-B-D Zone, Section 15.
Restudy noting the following: That the overall concept of the building
remodel should be presented (not a piecemeal approach) .
CASE 3.0469 (MINOR). Application by COUVRETTE BUILDING SYSTEM for architectural
approval of a kiosk for a new drive-up ATM at the Security Pacific Bank,
750 N. Palm Canyon Drive, C-1 Zone, Section 10.
Approved subject to the following conditions:
October 26, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 3
CONSENT ACTION AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.0469 (MINOR). (Continued)
That the center planter island include the following landscape additions;
2-24" box size Ficus Retusa trees and ground cover (Carissa Boxwood
Beauty, 1 gallon, 18 inches on centerj.
Commissioner Mills entered.
ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
CASE 3.0272. Application by VOSS INVESTMENT PROPERTIES for architectural
approval for working drawings and minor elevation changes for
retail/restaurant complex on the northeast corner of Avenida
Caballeros/Tahquitz Way, C-1-AA Zone (I.L.) , Section 14.
Chairman abstained; Vice-Chairman presided.
Planner (Williams) stated that revisions to the site plan, windows and
doors were recommended for approval by the AAC on October 24. She stated
that the wall cap was deleted from the Japanese restaurant, but the other
�-' buildings had no walls with tile caps; and that the east elevation is the
back of the restaurant facing a service area, which is the reason for the
lack of detail on that elevation. She stated that the back would be hidden
by another building.
M/S/C (Mills/Whitney; Lapham abstained) approving the application as sub-
mitted.
CASE 3.0460 (MINOR). Application by REUEL YOUNG for Palm Springs Regional
Airport for architectural approval of revised plans for a 15 ft. sound
wall at the north end of the Airport runway between Tamarisk Road
(extended)/Tachevah Road (extended) , A Zone, Section 12.
Planner (Williams) stated that the wall was restudied by the Commission,
revisions were made, and the design was recommended for approval by the AAC
on October 24.
Commissioner Mills stated that he had requested that an acoustical study be
made for a better design or different material for the 15 ft. high wall .
Planning Director answered that part of the Airport Noise Study was an
acoustical analysis , although the exact configuration of the wall was not
defined; that because of the 7:1 glide path the wall could not be closer to
the Airport; that the wall could not be lowered because of the height of
jet engines; and that there was nothing in the report that indicated more
effectiveness or less obtrusiveness of the design.
October 26, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 4
CONSENT ACTION AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.0460. (Continued)
Commissioner Mills suggested berming between the runway and the loop road
to reduce the height. He asked if berming had been addressed.
Planning Director replied that the Airport Director stated that the wall
could not be any closer to allow for berming and that part of the height is
to build a structure that is as high as the jet engines.
Commissioner Mills suggested some mounding on Farrell to soften the wall .
Planning Director replied that there is no space for substantial earth
work.
Commissioner Olsen stated that the design should be reviewed, especially on
Tachevah and Farrell .
Planning Director replied that the wall is more noticeable from the airport
than anywhere else; that the color scheme will be on both sides; that there
will be no landscaping except inside the wall on private development (as is
done for industrial areas with zero setbacks); and that the Commission
could recommend landscaping (small plants such as Texas Ranger).
Commissioner Hough commented that although the wall is big not much will be
seen as the buildings at the airport develop; that there is no room for
landscaping on Farrell , but the wall design has improved and the wall is
pleasing from both sides .
M/S/C (Olsen/Edgmon; Mills dissenting) approving the application subject to
further study of the ends of the wall to explore mounding and/or land-
scaping.
NOTE: Commissioner Mills dissented feeling that an acoustical study should
have been made to study other options for materials and design.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
CASE 5.0487-CUP. Application by ROD and DALE JOHNSON for a conditional use
permit to continue operation of a public equestrian facility on the corner
of Toledo Avenue/Murray Canyon Drive, PD-2, Sections 25 and 36.
(Commission response to written comments on Draft Negative Declaration; no
comments received; action.)
Planner (Evans) stated that the application is for a CUP to continue
operation of Smoketree Stables which have been in Palm Springs since 1929
and were moved in 1968 to the current location; that originally the stables
were in the County which approved a 10-year permit; and that in 1970 the
Council annexed the site and in 1978 a CUP was applied for and approved,
which expired in 1988; and that the applicants have filed for a time
v, extension without a specific time length. After presenting the prepared
report (on file in the Planning Division office) , he stated that there have
been many complaints received by the City and described the stables'
October 26, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 5
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0487-CUP. (Continued)
location and site plan on the display board. He stated that an extension
of Murray Canyon Drive will be required as development occurs in Palm
Canyon (which has been approved for homes) . In reply to Chairman' s
question, he stated that an extension of Murray Canyon would be a full
extension of the road (not just along the stable property) at the expense
of the property owner as part of the CUP extension.
In reply to Commission question, Planning Director stated that it is an
unusual condition.
In reply to Commission question, Planner stated that no information has
been developed on prevailing winds on the site; but that the winds shift
often and the homeowners in the area may want to comment. He stated that
there are 129 homes within one-half mile and a little less than 468 homes
counting the perimeter of the equestrian site.
Planning Director stated that much correspondence has been received by the
City with half recommending approval and half opposing the project; and
that the equestrian and tourist industry are in favor and the local
residents are opposed for the reasons mentioned in the staff report (odor,
noise, etc.) .
Chairman declared the hearing open.
The following persons spoke in favor of the CUP extension:
Frank Bogert, 2727 Plaimore
M.A. Hoff, 2733 Anza Trail
Vivian Grow, 5401 Lakeside
Dan Olivier, 600 Tahquitz
Gary Klein, Rancho Mirage
Chris Maxwell , 1109 Mesquite
Jeffry Close, 340 Desert Lakes Drive
Roger Ramos, 520 Murray Canyon Drive
Micky Fine, 1301 Malaga Circle
Babs Shea, Sorghum Court, Cathedral City
Clare Burgess, 550 Pallisades
Steve Carter, DVM, La Quinta
Bill Burgess, 550 Pallisades
Reuel Young, 1428 Rodeo
October 26, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 6
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0487-CUP. (Continued)
Ted McKinney, 755 E. Sunny Dunes
Theresa Berglund, Rancho Mirage
John Berglund, Rancho Mirage
Bill Dellars, Rancho Mirage
Reasons given for approval of the CUP are as follows:
- It is an adjunct of the Tribal Park.
- There is only one public stable left in Palm Springs.
- Palm Springs has a unique area in which to ride.
- Horseback riding is an important tourist industry.
Stables are an integral part of the desert riders operation (to keep
riding trails open) .
- The spray system and manure removal eliminates development of fly
larvae. (Flies breed in the Canyon Country Club grass cuttings , not
in the stables.)
- Murray Road extension should not be required; is improper and not
related to the application (Smoketree is a lessor, not an owner, and
a legal challenge could result) .
- It is a scenic area and other areas in the Valley are not as scenic.
- Los Compadres Stables is far away from riding trails.
- A high percentage of people seeking recreation ride horses.
- Trails are of paramount importance to the area and a link through the
valley for hikers and museum groups, as well as horsemen.
- This location is improtant to facilitate horseback riding in the
Indian Canyons.
- Desert Riders need a place to stable their horses and to rent horses .
- Removal of the stables will be removal of part of the history of Palm
Springs .
- Only 20 desert riders have their own horses , other riders use stable
horses for recreation and for maintenance of the trails.
- Equestrian Center location is too far away from the canyons .
- Persons bought homes in the stable area knowing the stable were
there.
October 26, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 7
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0487-CUP. (Continued)
- Horseback riding is an incentive to businessmen to take clients
riding.
- Stables bring revenue to the City instead of downvalley.
- Stables have very important memories for children.
- Stables are very clean and hygienic.
- Too much importance is placed on part-time residents voicing
opposition.
- It would be an injustice if the permit is not approved.
- Good safety record at the stables.
- People are drawn to the area for what is existing and the area should
not be changed.
- Care of the equipment, stables , and horses is superior to all other
stables.
- Instead of extending Murray Canyon Drive through Smoketree, Farrell
should be extended through Barona to the southeast side of the wash
for circulation of traffic. (It is on General Plan.)
Memories of childhood should be kept because they give the community
heart.
Little for teenagers to do in the area, riding is an important
teenage activity.
Those in opposition to the CUP were as follows:
Harold Glass, 2432 Toledo
Joe Turner, 2444 S. Camino Real
Chopsie Samuelson, 1606 Via Estrella
Jerome Factor, 1255 Via Estrella
Fess Parker, 2514 Toledo/495 Santiago Way
Herbert Bernstein, 1650 Murray Canyon
Julius Creeker, 1680 Murray Canyon
Esenta Warshil , 2384 Toledo
October 26, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 8
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0487-CUP. (Continued)
Reasons given in opposition are as follows:
- Flies, noise, barking dogs, skunks, raccoons, coyotes, and odor
problems have gotten worse.
- Stables could be moved (suggested-northeast corner of the triangular
property or the Tribal Park) .
- Canyon South Homeowners voted 6-1 against the stables at a Board
Meeting (dissenting vote was because of nostalgia) .
- People away from the stables are the only ones who can afford
nostalgia.
- Manure odor permeates homes in the area.
- Radius of Public Hearing notices should be larger than 400 ft.
because the stench travels more than 400 ft.
- Lowers property values because of full disclosure statement required
in selling houses in the area.
- People in the area asked stables to move two years ago and were
ignored.
- Progress forces situations to change.
- The residences are in their proper zoning district; the stables are
not.
- Tourists not only come to ride horses; they also engage in other
athletic activities.
- The stables' clientele will follow the stables wherever they move.
- Area is now developed and the stables have become too close to the
residences .
- Planning Commission has an obligation to find a compromise, such as
moving the stables since the use is under a Conditional Use Permit.
- Many of the riders do not live in the area; they just use the
facilities.
- Golfers cannot play on the Canyon Country Club Golf Course at times
because of the odor.
- Comfort, health and sanitation of the residents should be considered.
- The applicant should be required to extend Murray Canyon.
- Canyon Country Club area is in a renaissance, has set a precedent for
the valley, and is one of the best areas to live in the valley.
October 26, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 9
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0487-CUP. (Continued)
- Palm Springs would be strengthened with another location of the
stables.
- Odors have increased through the years and east winds blow the odors
toward nearby residences.
- Homeowners were told stables were temporary and would be removed
since the area was growing.
- Key word is progress (development of the area) .
- Original permit was for 10 years to review the use as development
occurred.
- Progress eliminated the other stables in the area.
- Wild animals such as raccoons and coyotes are drawn to the stables.
- Horse activities such as hayrides cause droppings which are not
removed.
- Many residents in Palm Springs are in their 80 or 90's and they
prefer golf courses and tennis .
- Rats are being found in the area.
- Murray Canyon Drive is sometimes littered with manure.
- Petition has been signed by 100 homeowners in the area in opposition.
- 300 members of Canyon Country Club oppose the granting of the
extension of the Conditional Use Permit.
There being no further appearances; Chairman declared the hearing closed.
In reply to Commission question, Planner stated that no homes were
immediately abutting the stables in 1965 and building was begun in the 60's
and continued into the 70's and 80's .
(He showed the development of the property on the display board.)
Commissioner Hough stated that tree rats are a common valley nuisance and
not a result of the stables; that the stables' current location is
important because of its closeness to the canyons; that most of the people
purchase their homes after the stables were located; that he lives on Araby
and has wild animals in the area; and that he is opposed to the extension
of Murray Canyon as a condition of the Conditional Use Permit.
October 26, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 10
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0487-CUP. (Continued)
In reply to Commission question, Planner stated that the most recent method
of control of flies and insects is biological control and was not used in
the equestrian center; and that consultants in 1981 found that the odor and
fly control and removal of manure at Smoketree were adequate; and that to
their knowledge staff feels that the stables have the best controls
possible.
Commissioner Edgmon requested that staff investigate the hayrides to see if
droppings are being left. She stated also that the Murray Canyon extension
is inappropriate, and that living with pre-existing uses is sometimes
difficult.
In reply to Commission question, Traffic Engineer stated that the original
JHK study showed an increase of traffic on Toledo of 112% and 183% on
Barona; and that the leg would be needed by 1995 and would involve 6300
cars a day based on development in the South Palm Canyon Area.
In reply to Chairman' s question, Planning Director stated that there has
not been any discussion on relocation of the stables on the Smoketree
stables property.
Chairman stated that he was in favor of extending the CUP, but a study
should be done on relocation within a specific time period. He suggested
that at the end of five years a relocation plan be ready for Commission
review; stated that another 10 year extension is not viable; and that the
Commission should at the end of five years determine whether or not the use
should stay or the stable relocated. He noted that the stable owners have
an obligation to find a more compatible location; and that something should
be done or a permanent permit granted.
Commissioner Hough stated that he did not want the use to be eliminated in
ten years.
Commissioner Whitney noted that she felt that the stables should move, but
there has to be access to the canyons.
Chairman stated that the access to the canyons would be part of the
feasibility study and perhaps the stables could be relocated along the
trail line and if relocation can be accomplished, it should be.
Commissioner Dotson stated that the permit should be limited to a five year
extension and as a condition of approval a relocation study and analysis
should be made and the total number of horses limited to 150.
Commissioner Mills stated that there should not a dedication made for an
extension of Murray Canyon as a condition of approval ; and that as long as
the stable is operative, there should not be a road across the property.
Commissioner Hough stated that he felt that a dedication requirement is
improper; that the extension should be for 10 years with a relocation study
since 5 years is not long enough.
October 26, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 11
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0487-CUP. (Continued)
Commissioner Mills asked if a consultant or expert had ever been consulted
on whether of not the stables are in a state-of-the-art program regarding
fly control and odor.
Planner stated that the requirement is part of the mitigation measures of
the project. He stated that the stables' program should be reviewed by an
independent party such as an equestrian consultant.
Commissioner Dotson noted that he had visited the site and was impressed by
its cleanliness although he realized it was not the height of the season;
that a five year extension should be adequate because of the future Tribal
Council Park and also because there are viable alternative sites on the
property for relocation.
Commissioner Edgmon agreed, stating that the suggestion is a good
compromise.
Commissioner Dotson commented that the dedication should be explored
along with the relocation but may not be needed t cttinftithe 5-year time frame.
Motion was made by Dotson to order the filing of a negative declaration and
approve CUP 5.0487 for five years subject to all conditions of
staff; that the number of horses be limited to 150; and that the applicant
be required to submit a feasibility study to move the stable location in 5
years.
�..�' Motion died for lack of a second.
M/S/C (Whitney/Edgmon; Hough dissented) approving CUP 5.0487 based on the
following findings and subject to the following conditions:
Findings:
1. That the equestrian facility proposed and the location set forth is
property one for which a conditional use permit is authorized by the
Zoning Ordinance Section 9402.00 A.2.d.
2. That the public stable use is necessary and desirable for the
community and has been existing at this location for the past ten
years. This use is in harmony with the General Plan which indicates
convenient access to the established trail system throughout the City
and is not considered detrimental to adjacent residential uses which
were developed subsequent to and with full knowledge of the existence
of the equestrian facility.
3. That the four acre site is more than adequate in size to accommodate
the continued operation of this stable facility including all walls ,
fences, setbacks , landscaping, greenbelts, and fly and odor control
systems necessary to adjust this continuing use to the neighborhood.
4. That the site is located at the intersection of two secondary
thoroughfares which are adequate in size to accommodate the amount
``' and type of traffic known to be generated by the stables.
October 26, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 12
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0487-CUP. (Continued)
5. That the Planning Commission has reviewed and considered information
regarding insect, odor and manure control contained in the Palm
Springs Equestrian Center Final EIR.
6. That the continued operations of Smoke Tree Stables provides
residents and tourists an important recreational amenity.
7. That the alternative sites have been considered by the Planning
Commission.
Conditions•
1. That the CUP extension is approved for a 5 year period with a
feasibility study on relocation prepared within the five year period
for Commission review and a decision on whether the stablesshould remain.
2. That the operation of the stables is subject to periodic review by
staff and that any complaints received by staff are to be reported to
the Planning Commission.
3. That the existing fly and odor control system shall be used at all
times horses are present on-site. (Eight (8) times per day, one (1)
minute duration or an necessary).
4. That the applicant shall investigate additional means to control
" insects and odors and report back to staff within 30 days of
approval .
5. That any changes to the control program listed above shall be
submitted in writing for City approval .
6. That all manure be removed from the site daily.
7. That the parking area be re-surfaced and striped in accordance with
current codes.
8. That all inoperable vehicles and inoperable equipment be removed from
the site within 30 days of City Council approval .
9. That a landscape plan be submitted for the westerly portions of the
property including the office area, parking area and entry.
10. That all recommendations contained An the Development Committee
recommendations be complied with except for the requirement of
dedication of land for the extension of Murray Canyon Drive.
October 26, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 13
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0487-CUP. (Continued)
Commissioner Hough dissented, feeling that the 5-year time period was not
long enough.
CASE 5.0494-CUP. Application by GLEN IVEY MANAGEMENT COMPANY (CANYON PLAZA
HOTEL) for a conditional use permit to add 10 new time share units at 2601
Golf Club Drive, R-3 Zone, Section 29.
(Commission response to written comments on draft Negative Declaration; no
comments received; action.)
Recommendation: That the Commission order the filing of a Negative
Declaration and approve the CUP subject to conditions.
Planner (Abbas) presented the staff report and stated that the existing
restaurant area is proposed to be converted to timeshare uses which would
add 10 time shares to the existing 71; and that asphalt will be removed in
the front and landscaping added. She stated that parking and open space
meet code requirements; that there is no covered parking; that there is no
change in the footprint of the building; and that there will be no
restaurant. She stated that the AAC recommend restudy of the architecture
and felt that not enough information was provided to review.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
Chris Mills, 121 S. Palm Canyon, project architect, stated that he had
submitted colored plans; that no additional square footage is being added;
that excess square footage of parking will be deleted and landscaping
added; that the entry will be revised; and that a snack bar with four
tables will be added by the pool . He stated that there will be a delivery
drive to service the laundry area and that colored plans will not show any
of the existing elements, but will show the same window patterns as the 3-
story hotel building. He stated that the patio has been expanded with a
covered area off the patio, and that staff conditions are acceptable.
Planner stated that one condition would be added by staff; that the large
free-standing monument sign be removed and replaced with a sign that meets
code.
Mr. Mills commented that he would have to ask the owners if the condition
were acceptable.
Vivian Grow, 5041 Lakeside, stated that her house was there before the
hotel was built; that adding 10 more families with cars, noise and loss of
parking space is not acceptable to the neighborhood; and that more cars
will be coming out of the many driveways along the hotel block.
Chairman commented that the use should diminish since the restaurant will
be eliminated.
October 26, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 14
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0494-CUP. (Continued)
Mrs. Grow stated that will not be the case since the restaurant was not
busy and with a timeshare there will be many more people and cars. She
stated that allowing a timeshare use next to an R-1 use is not right.
In reply to Commission question, Planner stated that the existing project
is timeshare and there is no requirement for covered parking.
Planning Director explained that a time share is like a hotel use and
covered parking is not required.
M/S/C (Olsen/Dotson; Mills abstained; absent) approving CUP 5.0494 based
on the following findings and subject to the following conditions:
Findings•
1. The proposed additional time share units and snack bar are properly
one for which a Conditional Use Permit is authorized by the Zoning
Ordinance.
2. The proposed time share units are desirable for the community, are in
harmony with the General Plan and are not detrimental to the
surrounding neighborhood.
3. The site, being 3.33 acres and by making use of an existing
structure, can accommodate the proposed improvements.
4. The site is located on adjacent roadways which can handle the anti-
cipated traffic.
5. The conditions of approval will protect the health, safety and
general welfare of the neighborhood .
Conditions•
1. Prior to issuance of a building permit, the applicant shall demon-
strate that a proper easement has been established for the use of the
restroom facilities on the northerly side of the building for the
patrons of the golf course adjacent to it. Said easement shall be a
clearly marked path with an opening in the property line wall and a
small sign indicating the availability of the restrooms .
2. The additional 10 units shall be subject to the provisions of the
Municipal Code concerning Transient Occupancy Tax.
3. Prior to issuance of a building permit, the Planning Commission shall
review and approve final working drawings, including but not limited
to, elevations, landscaping, site plans. The landscaping plans shall
include all new landscaping and provisions for repair of all street-
scape plant material and walls.
4. Plans for a working trash enclosure must be approved prior to
issuance of a building permit.
October 26, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 15
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0494-CUP. (Continued)
5. The illegal chain link fence at the rear of the site near the pool
must be removed prior to issuance of a building permit.
6. That the large free-standing monument sign be removed and replaced
with a sign that meets code.
7. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be met.
TPM 23123 (REVISED). Application by ASL CONSULTING ENGINEERS for Peter McKernan
for a revised tentative parcel map to combine four existing lots into two
parcels on Vereda del Sur, R-1-A Zone, Section 10.
(An Environmental Assessment was previously given in conjunction with the
original map.)
Recommendation: That the Commission approve the map subject to conditions .
Planner (Abbas) stated that the map was filed in conjunction with the CUP
for a large home and guest house; and that the applicant plans to raze one
home and build his home and a guest house and then improve and sell the
other existing home on the property. She stated that the revised map is
for changes to the CUP regarding the site plan, particularly the tennis
court.
Planning Director stated that off-site improvements will be deferred.
Planner explained that the applicant proposes to combine four parcels; and
that the two parcels and the added parcel will make the combined property
more square in shape.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
Paul Gilmore, ASL Consulting Engineers, 960 E. Tahquitz, project engineer,
stated that the original map had two parcels , that the applicant is
proposing a lot consolidation, and that there are no problems with the
conditions.
There being no further appearances; Chairman declared the hearing closed.
M/S/C (Whitney/Edgmon) approving TPM 23123 based on the following findings
and subject to the following conditions:
Findings•
1. That a parcel map is the appropriate application for a lot consolida-
tion.
2. That the proposed lot consolidation is in harmony with the Zoning
Ordinance and objectives of the General Plan.
October 26, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 16
` PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
TPM 23123. (Continued)
3. That the proposed lot consolidation is not detrimental to the
surrounding properties or the environment.
Conditions:
1. That the Development Committee conditions dated October 6, 1988 shall
be implemented.
PUBLIC COMMENTS: None.
TPM 23288. Application by VOSS INVESTMENT PROPERTIES for a tentative parcel map
for subdivision of land for commercial purposes at the northeast corner of
Tahquitz Way/Avenida Caballeros , C-1-AA/R-4-VP Zone (I.L.) , Section 14.
(An Environmental Assessment was previously prepared in conjunction with
Case 3.0272.)
Vice-Chairman presided.
Recommendation: That the Commission approve the map subject to conditions:
Planner (Williams) stated that staff report indicates that the Project
Engineer expressed concern over dedication because of lease arrangements
and wants more flexibility; that conditions eliminate a no man's land, and
will satisfy the City Engineer.
Vice-Chairman declared the hearing open.
Paul Gilmore, ASL Consulting Engineers, project engineer, stated that the
applicants want to combine the dedicated parcel and Parcels A & B for the
purpose of filling requirements of the Subdivision Map Act. He stated that
the lease arrangements have not been made yet, and the client needs
flexibility.
Planning Director explained that the parcel map is required not because of
leasing or financing but to define the parcels with survey instruments
since the lots were created many years ago and are not properly defined.
There being no further appearances; Vice-Chairman declared the hearing
closed.
Commissioner Dotson asked about access on Parcel B since there is an access
on Caballeros.
October 26, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 17
• PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
TPM 23288. (Continued)
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Planning Director explained that the vacant lot faces the Convention Center
Hotel arcel and the applicants want to provide a Tahquitz access to the
hotel �or any other development); and that the lease is structured so that
if the underlying leasee takes back Parcel B they will provide parking on
the north parcel . He stated that the subdivision will not make a flag lot
and that access does not have to be provided to Tahquitz Way by the City.
M/S/C (Hough/Dotson; Lapham abstained) approving the map based on the
following findings and subject to the following conditions:
Findings•
1. That the site is adequate in size and shape to accommodate proposed
developments of the C-1-AA or R-4-UP Zones.
2. That the lot sizes meet the minimum development standards provided
Parcel B is designated for access purposes only.
3. That the proposed subdivision will not have an adverse environmental
effect.
4. That the proposed subdivision is in accordance with the objectives of
the General Plan.
Conditions•
1. That the Development Committee conditions dated October 17, 1988
shall apply.
TRIBAL COUNCIL COMMENTS
This Case was reviewed by the Tribal Council at its Tribal Council Meeting
of October 25, 1988. After consideration of the recommendations of the
Indian Planning Commission, the Tribal Council took the following actions:
1. Concurred with the findings contained in Planned Commission Staff
Report dated October 26, 1988.
2. Approved Tentative Parcel Map No. 23288 subject to the conditions
recommended in Development Committee Minutes of October 17, 1988.
October 26, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 18
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
TIME EXTENSION - CASE 5.0315-CUP/CASE 3.582. Request by LINDEN CONSTRUCTION,
�•.� INC. for a retroactive 12 month time extension of a conditional use permit
and architectural case for a condominium hotel project on Baristo Road east
of Avenida Caballeros, R-4 Zone (I .L.) , Section 14.
Planner (Abbas) explained that the applicant are late in applying for a
time extension and making it retroactive will make the expiration date
February 11, 1989.
Commissioner Whitney asked staff to inform Commission of development on the
adjacent property.
M/S/C (Olsen/Edgmon) approving a twelve-month time extension subject to all
original conditions of approval . The expiration date will be February 11,
1989.
TRIBAL COUNCIL COMMENTS
This case was reviewed by the Tribal Council at its Tribal Council Meeting
of October 25, 1988. After consideration of the recommendations of the
Indian Planning Commission, the Tribal Council took the following actions:
1. Noted there were extenuating legal circumstances that delayed con-
struction of the project.
2. Approved the granting of a retroactive 12-month time extension for
CASE 5.0315-CUP subject to the original Conditions of approval .
3. In keeping with its policy of not considering architectural approval
items, the Tribal Council withheld comments on Case 3.582.
CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS. Update of City Council actions.
- CASE 5.0486-CZ. Council approved change from R-G-A(8) to R-4 on Caballeros
and Amado.
- CASE 6.363 (Berkowitz). Council upheld the Commission denial of the
variance in light standard heights.
- CASE 6.361 (Marino). Council upheld the Commission denial of the variance.
- Joint Council PC/AAC Dinner Meetin Will be November 7, 6:30 p.m. in the
Plaza Resort Hotel , Plaza "C" Room details to follow) .
October 26, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 19
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Continued)
COMMISSION/STAFF REPORTS OR REQUESTS.
Architects and AAC Membership Period. Some interest from architects for
membership on the AAC on a rotating basis.
APA Conference. American Planning Conference at the Marquis Hotel from
October 23 - 26 was very successful . Most of the Planners from the State
liked the town and the conference seminars. Commissioner Dotson thanked
staff for their efforts during the conference.
Palm Springs Classic. Commissioner Dotson requested a presentation and
drawing of the proposal and asked that staff express Commission concerns to
the Council . He stated that a report has been generated by SENCA (a
consultant) which no one has seen.
Planning Director stated the report was on the feasibility issue, and that
there is no concrete plan. Senca is assigning its responsibilities to
Kanter, Incorporated. Another developer is interested in the same land
uses in the Chino Cone which has a 10% slope and not enough flat land
available for a golf course, and would require much cut and fill . There
are questions regarding agreements with SENCA but the Redevelopment
Director wants to include the Commission in a positive way but is not
getting much support to slow down; and that it is too early to review a
physical plan since there is presently no site. He stated that the
feasibility study includes a resort hotel and eliminates the sports arena;
high end residential instead of corporate pads; and that also there is an
airport noise problem to be considered.
Chairman stated that high end residential will probably not be appropriate.
Commissioner Dotson requested copies of the feasibility study for the
Commission.
- Tennis Court Lights. Review will be on an upcoming Commission Study
Session agenda.
- Palm Trees on Indian Avenue. Commissioner Olsen stated that the palm tree
landscaping along Indian Avenue has improved the area.
- City/County Conference. Will be held November 3 in Redlands. Deadline for
reservations is October 27.
- Abandoned Cars Issue. Will be on an upcoming Commission study session
agenda. Planning Director stated that only salvagable cars are presently
being towed.
ADDED STARTERS. (Determination of eligibility for consideration.)
None.
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ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, Chairman adjourned the meeting at 4:40
p.m.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
Council Chamber, City Hall
• November 9, 19$8
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1988 - 1989
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to Date
Larry Lapham, Chairman X 8 2
Gary Olsen - 8 2
Barbara Whitney X 8 2
Brent Hough X 8 2
Martha Edgmon X 9 1
Chris Mills - 7 1
Michael Dotson X 7 0
Staff Present
Marvin D . Roos , Planning Director
Siegfried Siefkes , Assistant City Attorney
Sherri Abbas , Planner
Margo Williams, Planner
Douglas Evans , Planner
John Terell , Redevelopment Planner
Dave Forcucci , Zoning Enforcement
Dean Lewis, Traffic Engineer
"Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
• Architectural Advisory Committee - November 7, 1988
Brent Hough , Chairman Absent: Tom Doczi
Mill Kleindienst Mike Buccino
William Johnson
Reuel Yauna
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
M/S/C (Whitney/Hough; Mills/Olsen absent) approving minutes of October 19, 1988
with the fallowing correction: Location of meeting: Large Conference Room; and
approving the minutes of October 26, 1988, with the following corrections: See
Attachment A.
ADMINISTRATIVE NOTE:
There were no Tribal Council Comments .
• REPORT OF POSTING AGENDA:
The November 9, 1988 agenda was available for public access at the City Hall
exterior bulletin board and the Planning Division Counter by 1 :30 p.m. , Friday,
November 4, 1988.