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Council Chamber, City Hall
MARCH 23, 1988
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1987 - 1988
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to date
Larry Lapham, Chairman X 14 2
Hugh Curtis X 16 0
Martha Edgmon X 14 2
Brent Hough X 15 1
Earl Neel X 15 1
Gary Olsen X 15 1
Barbara Whitney X 13 3
Staff Present
Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director
Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney
Douglas Evans, Planner
Margo Williams, Planner
Carol Vankeeken, Planner
Richard Patenaude, Planner
Dave Forcucci , Zoning Enforcement
Ken Feenstra, Redevelopment Director
John Terell , Redevelopment Planner
Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee - March 21, 1988
Chris Mills, Chairman Absent: Barbara Whitney, Alternate
Martha Edgmon, Alternate Gary Olsen, Alternate
William Johnson
Tom Doczi
Will Kleindienst
Mike Buccino
Brent Hough
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
Minutes of March 9, 1988 will be approved at the adjourned meeting of March 29.
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CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
M/S/C (Edgmon/Olsen; Whitney/Neel absent) taking the following actions:
CASE 3.0191 (Continued) . Application by GREAT AMERICAN MINI STORAGE for
architectural approval of gate material for office/warehouse buildings
on Farrell Drive/Research Drive, M-1-P Zone, Section 12.
Restudy noting the following: That an open metal gate that is well
designed be presented.
CASE 3.0335 (Continued) . Application by JOE DACOSTA for architectural
approval of revised plans for single-family hillside residence on
Girasol Avenue between Cabrillo Road/N. Racquet Club Road, R-1-C Zone,
Section 3.
Continued to April 13 pending receipt of revised plans.
SIGN APPLICATION (Continued) . Initiation by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS for
architectural approval of a freestanding readerboard sign for scheduling
of City events to be located in the Sunrise Plaza in front of the
Braille Institute, 0 Zone, Section 13.
Continued to April 13 pending receipt of revised plans.
CASE 3.0329 (MINOR) . Application by PALM SPRINGS DEAUVILLE HOA for
architectural approval of wrought iron gates, awnings, ceiling fans and
screen doors for Deauville residential condominium project at 500 E.
Amado Road, R-4 Zone, Section 14.
Approved subject to the following conditions:
1. That the awning structural attachment detail be submitted to staff
for approval .
2. That the awning have a fixed angle which follows the angle of the
fin wall .
3. That the awning project no further than the short end wall of the
balcony.
4. That the scallops match existing awnings.
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CASE 3.0361. Application by ROBERT NEILL for architectural approval of a
single-family hillside residence on Araby Drive between Palo
Verde/Cholla Place, R-1-B Zone, Section 25. (Reference Case 7.690-AMM.)
Restudy noting the following:
1. That the front entry/relocation of door and access be restudied.
2. That landscape material integrate with the architecture.
3. That elevations show location of stairway, correct ridge lines and
revised window treatments.
4. That the mansard roof on garage be deleted.
5. That a rolled parapet detail be used.
6. That Barrel roof tile with mud be used.
CASE 3.0363 (MINOR). Application by BMW OF PALM SPRINGS for architectural
approval of removal of fascia on three sides of building at 4057 E. Palm
Canyon Drive, C-2 Zone, Section 30.
Restudy noting the following:
1. That the existing metal panels be repaired or that an alternate
material be proposed to replace the metal .
2. That architectural plans accompany the revisions.
CASE 3.0364 (MINOR) . Application by WESTAR for architectural approval of
repaint/new colors at Racquet Club Center, 2400 N. Palm Canyon Drive,
PD-113, Section 3.
Approved as submitted.
CASE 3.0367 (MINOR) . Initiation by CITY OF PALM SPRINGS REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
for architectural approval of redesign of Morrison parking lot at 425 N.
Palm Canyon Drive, CBD Zone, Section 15.
Approved subject to the following conditions:
1. That the walkway have a sense of entry.
2. That trees be added to the middle planter.
3. That final landscape plans be submitted for review.
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ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
Commissioner Neel entered.
CASE 3.0305 (REF. CASE 5.0438-MISC) . Initiation by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS
of final landscape, exterior lighting and irrigation plans for the
Airport loop road and parking lot, A Zone, Section 18.
Planning Director explained that the AAC recommended approval with three
dissenters who felt one wall was too high; that the wall was designed to
screen cars; and that the proposal meets City parking and lighting
standards.
In reply to Commission question, he stated that he had not heard of any
proposals for the southerly portion of the airport property on El Cielo.
He stated that landscaping along and behind the wall would discourage
children from climbing over the fence; that the design concept is to
screen cars in parking lots and focus drivers' attention without
distraction to the exits for parking and terminal access. He stated
that another purpose was to make the entry a high presentation one.
Dave Hamilton, landscape architect, Palm Springs, stated that the height
for most walls is four feet 10 inches which is only 10 inches over the
code but the height is necessary for screening cars. He explained that
the wall height is the only issue on the project and noted that the
walls are brown split-faced block on the exposed side. He stated that
split faced block also surrounds the fountain, that the benches are
gray, and the plaza deck is green moving into ochre brown.
Commissioner Hough stated that he voted in favor of the project at the
AAC, but after some thought and measuring of vehicles he feels that the
wall is too high; that the berming on the outside blocks the view of the
cars from people not going to the airport; and that in a standard size
car passengers will not be able to see over the 5 foot wall running
south to east.
Commissioner Curtis asked about the wall height and mounding.
Mr. Hamilton explained that the wall is 4 feet 10 inches and mounding of
4 to 5 feet which screens the parked cars from El Cielo; and that at the
Airport only plant materials and shining metal cars will be seen if the
wall is removed, which would be a mistake. He explained that the loop
road is treated as a City street and the treatment depicted was
envisioned at the beginning of the plans.
Commissioner Curtis stated that the wall is a high barrier.
Mr. Hamilton stated that the wall should be reviewed in context with the
scale of the project; that plantings soften it; that it is not a
barrier, and will be infinitesimal on the large site.
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CASE 3.0305 (Continued)
Chairman stated that the wall is jointed and if it is found to be too
high in the future, two courses of block can be removed.
Mr. Hamilton stated that the wall is a retaining wall at the plaza, that
behind the mounding is a freestanding wall , and that the bikepath has
retaining walls which are 419" to lift off the street and mounding only
at the plaza area. He stated that there is 15 to 25 feet of flat plane
before the planter at the base of the wall , then a 416" to 4'8" wall
height with plants behind it, then the parking lot; and that the wall
height is measured from the top of the curb.
Commissioner Hough commented that he drives on the road which is 6"
lower.
Mr. Hamilton commented that all the discussion was about 12 to 15 inches
of wall .
Planning Director stated that the loop road is higher than E1 Cielo.
Commissioner Edgmon complimented the architect for accomplishing a well
designed landscape project with few issues for such a large project.
Planning Director explained that staff has no problem with the wall
height and that it accomplishes the screening.
Chairman reiterated that if the height creates a problem, courses can be
removed and that he understood the concern of the Commission about the
.. maze created, but the problem is readily solved.
M/S/C (Curtis/Neel ; Whitney absent; Hough dissented) approving the
application as submitted.
CASE 3.0356. Application by ROBERT GARDNER for architectural approval of
single-family residence at 950 E. Azalea Circle, W-R-1-B Zone, Section
35.
Planner (Evans) stated that the AAC found the site plan and elevations
acceptable but recommended that the roof be restudied and that the AAC
did not know if the roof plans were accurate, and stated that the appli-
cant is in the audience and has additional exhibits. He described the
location of the house stating that it would be very visible until the
subdivision is completed.
Curt Gardner, project architect, stated that the style is Spanish
Contemporary; and that the eaves are large to compensate for the ridge
line. He showed photographs to the Commissioners.
Planning Director explained that the architect owns a truss company and
is more technically involved than is normally typical .
Mr. Gardner stated that the tile is concrete with no mortar joint and
the fascia is wood. Planner explained that the roof tile is "S" tile.
i
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CASE 3.0356 (Continued)
Commissioner Hough stated that the AAC felt that the tile is not a
problem, but that the roof would not work.
Chairman stated that the presentation is a graphic, not a technical ,
problem.
Commissioner Hough explained that the AAC felt that the roof should be
reviewed.
Commissioner Edgmon agreed stating that she needed better graphics to
visualize the roofline.
Commissioner Curtis stated that a more expensive barrel tile, not "S",
should be used and that he would like further review of the application
since it is difficult to see how the roof line is designed.
Mr. Gardner explained that the mortar the gives too much Spanish flavor
to the Spanish/Contemporary home.
Commissioner Curtis suggested that the house either be made Spanish
totally or not at all .
M/S/C (Olsen/Edgmon; Whitney absent) for a restudy of the application
noting the following:
1. That the front entry/relocation of door and access be restudied.
2. That landscape material tie in with the architecture.
3. That elevations show location of stairway, correct ridge lines and
revised window treatments.
4. That the mansard roof on the garage be deleted.
5. That a rolled parapet detail be used.
6. That Barrel roof tile with mud be used.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
CASE 5.0465-CUP. Application by MICHAEL NAIMAN (NAIMCO INC.) for a con-
ditional use permit to add kitchens to a 16-room hotel at 1433 North
Indian Avenue between Stevens Road/Camino Monte Vista, R-3 Zone, Section
10.
(Commission response and written comments on draft Negative Declaration;
no comments; action.)
Recommendation: That the Commission order the filing of a Negative
Declaration and approve the Planned Development District subject to con-
ditions.
Planner (Williams) presented the staff report (on file in the Planning
Division) . She stated that the North Palm Canyon Project Area Committee
recommended approval to allow the property to be occupied and also
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CASE 5.0465-CUP (Continued)
recommended that the parking area in front be removed and replaced with
landscaping. She stated that there is a building permit for individual
meters, but staff recommends operation off a single meter to avoid
rental of the units as apartments.'
Chris Mills, 121 S. Palm Canyon, project architect, stated that his
client takes issue with only one condition - that of removal of the 16
new meters and replacing the units with one meter. He stated that the
applicant is requesting an alternative such as registering the meter in
one name (the applicant' s) . He commented that the footprint would not
change with the addition of kitchens and that the boarded up windows
will be replaced and a face lift and landscaping will be done on Indian
Avenue. He stated that the building is now unoccupied but the meters
have been installed with a building permit which prompted the Commission
review, that the project is a hotel and so stated on the application,
and that the meters could be visually screened. He stated that the size
of . the two small units would be increased by removing walls from the
larger units, and an application made to the building department. He
noted that the owner is willing to keep the units in his name, but
enforcement is a question.
Assistant City Attorney reminded the applicant that if a guest stays
more than 30 days he will be subject to the rent control ordinance which
is part of the Municipal Code.
Jim Shaw, 120 W. Vereda Sur, neighbor of the project, stated that if the
project becomes an apartment there will be more parking problems in an
�-- area already impacted by parking. He asked if the City can control the
use of the property.
Planning Director explained that the City cannot control the rental of
the hotel currently; that the issue has been explored with the City
Attorney; that a guest can go to any hotel in town and stay for months;
and this issue is the reason staff is recommending that the 16 meters be
removed and one meter only used.
Mr. Shaw stated that the construction of kitchens indicates long-term
rental; that there is no parking space on the property; and that the
suite hotels with kitchens are expensive and have private vehicle
parking. He stated that longer stays lose tax revenue and that the
hotel property is ugly, but should be run as a hotel or demolished, but
no problems should be added to the area. He stated that he would oppose
the application at the Council level , and that a meter in the owner' s
name does not help the problem since the expense would be charged to the
tenants.
Michael Naiman, San Diego, the applicant (rebuttal ), stated that his
firm has foreclosed on the property after an AIDS Hotel was proposed by
the previous owner and the AIDS use was discontinued. He stated that
his firm wishes to renovate the property and bring revenue to the City.
He requested approval . In reply to Commission question, he stated that
there has been inadequate parking since the hotel was built in the
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CASE 5.0465-CUP (Continued)
1940's; that the plan for separate meters was in operation when his firm
foreclosed on the property; that his firm will market the building since
it is in not in the business of property holding although he manages all
kinds of properties.
Commissioner Edgmon commented that Mr. Naiman could not speak for future
owners. Mr. Naiman stated that he would have to show income for a new
owner as a reality.
Chairman stated that there has never been parking space on the property
and the Commission has a choice - either to let it run down further or
renovate it. He stated that he agreed that one meter should be used.
In reply to Commission question, Planning Director stated that the
asphalt area on Indian could not be landscaped and also maintain the
existing substandard parking spaces.
Commissioner Edgmon suggested an option of renovating without kitchens.
She stated that she had concern about the kitchens.
Chairman stated that the application is for kitchens since if the appli-
cant were just renovating the building without kitchens no CUP would be
required.
Commissioner Curtis stated that he also had a problem and that the pro-
posal will not help the City and will intensify parking. He suggested
that the project be done correctly and that the Redevelopment Agency be
involved.
M/S/C (Edgmon/Curtis; Whitney absent; Olsen/Lapham dissented) denying
CUP 5.0465.
CASE 5.0466-PD-196. Application by MEL HABER ENTERPRISES, INC. for a Planned
Development District to allow construction of 104-unit luxury apartment
project including a 44 ft. building height at the west end of Tahquitz
Drive, 0-20/R-2/R-3 Zones, Section 15.
(Commission response to written comments on draft Negative Declaration;
no comments received; action.)
Planner (Evans) presented the staff report (on file in the Planning
Division) and stated that the applicant is requesting several deviations
from the ordinance - building height of 452 feet with setbacks which
deviate from the highrise ordinance; an eight-foot high wall on the east
and south property lines; lighted tennis courts that do not comply with
the setbacks and carports that encroach into the setbacks. He stated
that the density meets requirements, that the 720-foot length envelops
the major portion of the site, that the open space will increase from
the present 68%, that the units will be 1800 square feet with rents up
to $4,000 per month. He explained that residences located off Tahquitz
Drive, Tahquitz Way and a multi-family residential project south of the
property will have view obstructions, although in some instances less
than could be obscured by right-of-zone development. He stated that the
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CASE 5.0465-CUP (Continued)
recommended that the parking area in front be removed and replaced with
landscaping. She stated that there is a building permit for individual
meters, but staff recommends operation off a single meter to avoid
rental of the units as apartments.
Chris Mills, 121 S. Palm Canyon, project architect, stated that his
client takes issue with only one condition - that of removal of the 16
new meters and replacing the units with one meter. He stated that the
applicant is requesting an alternative such as registering the meter in
one name (the applicant' s) . He commented that the footprint would not
change with the addition of kitchens and that the boarded up windows
will be replaced and a face lift and landscaping will be done on Indian
Avenue. He stated that the building is now unoccupied but the meters
have been installed with a building permit which prompted the Commission
review, that the project is a hotel and so stated on the application,
and that the meters could be visually screened. He stated that the size
of the two small units would be increased by removing walls from the
larger units, and an application made to the building department. He
noted that the owner is willing to keep the units in his name, but
enforcement is a question.
Assistant City Attorney reminded the applicant that if a guest stays
more than 30 days he will be subject to the rent control ordinance which
is part of the Municipal Code.
Jim Shaw, 120 W. Vereda Sur, neighbor of the project, stated that if the
project becomes an apartment there will be more parking problems in an
area already impacted by parking. He asked if the City can control the
use of the property.
Planning Director explained that the City cannot control the rental of
the hotel currently; that the issue has been explored with the City
Attorney; that a guest can go to any hotel in town and stay for months;
and this issue is the reason staff is recommending that the 16 meters be
removed and one meter only used.
Mr. Shaw stated that the construction of kitchens indicates long-term
rental ; that there is no parking space on the property; and that the
suite hotels with kitchens are expensive and have private vehicle
parking. He stated that longer stays lose tax revenue and that the
hotel property is ugly, but should be run as a hotel or demolished, but
no problems should be added to the area. He stated that he would oppose
the application at the Council level , and that a meter in the owner' s
name does not help the problem since the expense would be charged to the
tenants.
Michael Naiman, San Diego, the applicant (rebuttal ) , stated that his
firm has foreclosed on the property after an AIDS Hotel was proposed by
the previous owner and the AIDS use was discontinued. He stated that
his firm wishes to renovate the property and bring revenue to the City.
He requested approval . In reply to Commission question, he stated that
there has been inadequate parking since the hotel was built in the
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CASE 5.0466-PD-196 (Continued)
eight-foot high wall is intended for privacy, and security, that the AAC
recommended a review of the wall height during final development plan
stages and that in a previously approved project on the site (Cadillac
Fairview) staff recommended that the eight-foot high wall not be
approved and the Commission overruled staff and approved it. He stated
that staff feels that plants and trees inside the wall may obscure the
view more than the wall itself, that a solution to hillside drainage
must be found and that the plan will be reviewed by the Commission. He
explained that there are cultural resources on the site, including the
old Tahquitz flume built in the 1880's which has been recommended for
retention by the Historic Site Preservation Board, that the applicants
will leave 70 feet of the flume, and that staff recommends an easement
back to the old rock wall for public viewing. He explained that
artifacts and the indian cemetery have not been identified currently,
but that the Tribal Council requests continuance to research the issue
before the April 13 meeting, and that years ago he met onsite regarding
the Cadillac-Fairview proposal with members of the Tribal Council , and
they accepted the mitigation measures but the present Council wants to
review them. He noted that several letters have been received, both in
favor and opposition (on file in the Planning Division) . He stated that
those in opposition feel that there would be view obstruction due to the
height of the buildings, that the project has inadequate setbacks, that
there will be an increase in traffic, a lack of marketability,
destruction of the wildlife habitats, and noise from the tennis courts;
and those in favor state that the project is supportable with minor
changes. He stated that staff received a call from AAC member Will
Kleindienst who lived in the neighborhood and currently has an office in
`�- the area, and that Mr. Kleindienst stated that he voted for the
project, but after he thought about the AAC recommendations, he feels
that substantial redesign is necessary and is requesting a field trip by
the Commissioners and the AAC to view the site and to understand the
effect of a 44-foot building height. He explained that Mr. Kleindienst
indicated he would change his "yes" vote and that staff recommends
continuance to April 13 because of a noticing problem in which two
property owners adjacent to the site did not receive their notice,
although the intent of the noticing has been fulfilled since the
applicants were sent notices and know of the hearing. He stated also
that staff recommends continuance because of the Tribal Council request
and because of a field trip by the AAC and Commission, and also because
that engineering conditions just received need refinement. He asked for
Commission direction on land use questions.
Commissioner Hough stated that the vote by the AAC was 6-0 for the
architecture and 6-0 for the land use. In reply to Commission question,
Planning Director stated that the Desert Museum is approximately 35 feet
high and was not approved under the Highrise Ordinance.
Planner stated that the six-foot high wall on the north property line
would require removal of the old rock wall and that staff is
recommending that the rock wall be retained and the new wall moved back
15 to 20 feet.
Planning Director explained that in the noticing the word "West" was
left off West Tahquitz Drive for one of the notices and the post office
sent it back to the City and that the second noticing problem was that
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CASE 5.0466-PD-196 (Continued)
the primary address on the tax role was a bank in Los Angeles, and that
the two properties will be renoticed.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
Mel . Haber, 700 West Stevens Road, the applicant, stated that the
property is 12 blocks from the Fashion Plaza and the project impacts
only a few people, that open space has been maximized, that development
by right of zone could be more severely impacting, that the development
will be a first-class, high clientele rental , that there will be 90
apartment units, that there are no high-end apartment units in the City,
although it is a common practice in the East, and that there is a
tremendous market for this type of property. He stated that people have
contacted him who would like to live in a complex in which they would
feel secure, that a bellman would be available to bring in food for the
residents from 25 restaurants in the area, and that the apartments would
rent at approximately $3500 per month. He stated that the project
covers 21% of the property and would be expensively landscaped, and
requested consideration by the Commission. He stated that the AAC
recommended a fifth floor in the center of the project and stepping down
to the property lines, but that he feels the building is pleasing as it
is. He explained that he took inspiration from the Tennis Club and
Desert Isle for design of the project and that the clean simple look is
what he desires, but that he would be open to constructive suggestions.
Iry Green, 421 Santa Rosa, associate of the applicant, stated that, if
there were 104 units there would be 208 underground parking spaces, that
�-- the units would have 9-inch thick floors for soundproofing, and that
balconies have been recessed for sun control . He stated that air
conditioning would be provided by a combination of ponding to bring the
ambient temperature down and a cooling tower, and that the only other
element on the roofs would be elevator towers 2 to 3 feet above the roof
line. He stated that the materials used on the project will blend into
the mountain and that there would be no glare for people living above
the roof line. He stated that three cars could fit into the 27-foot
parking module for each unit and there is a vertical fin three feet from
the end of the balconies to break up the horizontal building line. He
stated that the colors used on the building will make the building
appear softer and that the AAC suggestion to add a fifth story in the
center and stepping the building for a softer appearance could be
considered. He noted that a pedestrian walk within the complex
(suggested by the AAC) is a good idea, that drainage problems can be
resolved by joining an Assessment District on Arenas, that the pool
could also be used as a retention pond, and that the flume would be
protected. He suggested that the Commission review the condition of the
rock wall onsite because it should be rebuilt to restore its condition
and give it character and that the use is the best for the property and
better than a 350-room hotel built by right-of-zone which would be far
more impacting. He requested approval of the project as it is designed
and requirements made for mitigation to be reviewed by the Commission.
He stated that he would meet with the Tribal Council to satisfy its
requirements and stated that undue delay is inequitable.
Albert Frey, 686 Palisades, requested approval of the project since the
property is in a blighted condition at the present time. He stated that
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CASE 5.0466-PD-196 (Continued)
eight-foot high wall -is intended for privacy, and security, that the AAC
recommended a review of the wall height during final development plan
stages and that in a previously approved project on the site (Cadillac
Fairview) staff recommended that the eight-foot high wall not be
approved and the Commission overruled staff and approved it. He stated
that staff feels that plants and trees inside the wall may obscure the
view more than the wall itself, that a solution to hillside drainage
must be found and that the plan will be reviewed by the Commission. He
explained that there are cultural resources on the site, including the
old Tahquitz flume built in the 1880's which has been recommended for
retention by the Historic Site Preservation Board, that the applicants
will leave 70 feet of the flume, and that staff recommends an easement
back to the old rock wall for public viewing. He explained that
artifacts and the indian cemetery have not been identified currently,
but that the Tribal Council requests continuance to research the issue
before the April 13 meeting, and that years ago he met onsite regarding
the Cadillac-Fairview proposal with members of the Tribal Council , and
they accepted the mitigation measures but the present Council wants to
review them. He noted that several letters have been received, both in
favor and opposition (on file in the Planning Division) . He stated that
those in opposition feel that there would be view obstruction due to the
height of the buildings, that the project has inadequate setbacks, that
there will be an increase in traffic, a lack of marketability,
destruction of the wildlife habitats, and noise from the tennis courts;
and those in favor state that the project is supportable with minor
changes. He stated that staff received a call from AAC member Will
Kleindienst who lived in the neighborhood and currently has an office it
the area, and that Mr. Kleindienst stated that he voted for the
project, but after he thought about the AAC recommendations, he feels
that substantial redesign is necessary and is requesting a field trip by
the Commissioners and the AAC to view the site and to understand the
effect of a 44-foot building height. He explained that Mr. Kleindienst
indicated he would change his "yes" vote and that staff recommends
continuance to April 13 because of a noticing problem in which two
property owners adjacent to the site did not receive their notice,
although the intent of the noticing has been fulfilled since the
applicants were sent notices and know of the hearing. He stated also
that staff recommends continuance because of the Tribal Council request
and because of a field trip by the AAC and Commission, and also because
that engineering conditions just received need refinement. He asked for
Commission direction on land use questions.
Commissioner Hough stated that the vote by the AAC was 6-0 for the
architecture and 6-0 for the land use. In reply to Commission question,
Planning Director stated that the Desert Museum is approximately 35 feet
high and was not approved under the Highrise Ordinance.
Planner stated that the six-foot high wall on the north property line
would require removal of the old rock wall and that staff is
recommending that the rock wall be retained and the new wall moved back
15 to 20 feet.
Planning Director explained that in the noticing the word "West" was
left off West Tahquitz Drive for one of the notices and the post office
sent it back to the City and that the second noticing problem was that
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CASE 5.0466-PD-196 (Continued)
he had no problem with the sight line, and requested that the process be
expedited because it is not presently a desirable place because cars
park on the property at night.
Marshall Gaddes, 137 S. Tahquitz, owner of property abutting to the
west, stated that he was in favor of the project and that it would
enhance the area. He stated that height is a concern, but the trade off
is open space which enhances it and the project is better than the
Cadillac Fairview application which would have the effect of a
condominium project spread over the area, and that only a small part of
the project is visible at any one time. He stated that the problems of
increased traffic and parking, the trash area, and noise affecting his
property had been mitigated by the applicant. He stated that an
apartment project is the best concept for the area in terms of impact of
the property and is consistent with the redevelopment of the downtown.
Jeremy Crocker, 147 Tahquitz Drive, stated that his property will suffer
somewhat from the development, but he will look beyond that. He stated
that his particular interest is in the drainage solution, and that the
project would mean a lot to the downtown in terms of retail sales and
food services.
Sandy Embury, 531 W. Tahquitz, stated that her property would be
impacted, but that she would prefer the proposed development to a two-
story operation in which her view would be of rooftops. She stated that
with the setbacks she can still see the mountains, that the trees will
offer an area of green, and that there is a view of waterways which is a
trade off. She stated that her one concern is that she would like to
have more privacy at her second-floor lanai since the lanai would face
the fourth floor of the project.
Raoul Montez, attorney, representing Francis Winters, 141 Cahuilla,
stated that his client is adjacent to the tennis courts and has some
concerns about the eight-foot high wall in her back yard and lighting of
the court which will disturb the neighbors at night. He requested
consideration of the need for the lighting of the courts since it is a
minimal use in Palm Springs.
Ken Feenstra, Redevelopment Director, stated that his staff has been
working with the applicant to place a hotel on the site but has not been
successful , that the proposed apartment use is viable for the property
and that the height is a concern, but a six-story hotel had once been
approved by the Council , but never built. He stated that the Indian
burial ground would not be disturbed since most of it is under the paved
roadway of Tahquitz Way, and that it is difficult to construct a minor
project on the particular piece of land. He stated that the neighbors
most impacted met with the applicant in a positive meeting. He stated
that the applicant will move the parking and storage area to the east
side as requested by the Burgesses.
T. J. Haga, 412 West Tahquitz Way, stated that he did not receive a
notice, was not invited to the resident meeting, had not reviewed the
plans nor the traffic study, that cars would turn directly in front of
his property, that there have been accidents at the site and the
incidents will increase when the project is built. He stated that the
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CASE 5.0466-PD-196 (Continued)
there is nothing historic on the site, except for the flume which will
be protected. He stated that there are no historic buildings, and that
the building on the site is derelict.
Commissioner Curtis stated that the applicant has done a responsible job
from the testimony of the neighbors, that Palm Springs could use a
project such as the proposal (with some changes), and that the project
should be continued for a site visit and further review to make the
project better and acceptable to everyone.
Commissioner Neel expressed the same opinion stating that the changes
recommended by the AAC should be considered and that if the project is
continued, it should proceed as quickly as possible.
Chairman stated that the site plan and the overall detailing of the
building are excellent, but that the center of the project should be
raised with both ends stepped to soften the impact.
Commissioner Edgmon stated that noise from the cooling tower was an AAC
concern, that she had visited the site and was concerned about the view
obstruction, and that it should be reviewed in the field.
Chairman stated that a field trip should be scheduled with the AAC and
Commission.
M/S/C (Curtis/Neel ; Olsen abstained; Whitney absent) continuing the
application to April 13 for a field trip with the AAC and Commission
before April 13.
Tribal Council Comments:
"Although this proposed project is not located on Indian trust land, the
identified as well as the potential impacts on archaeological/historical
resources of the Cahuilla people are very significant. While the
mitigation proposed in the Planning Commission staff report dated March
23, 1988 generally addresses these impacts, the Tribal Council seriously
questions the adequacy of the proposed test excavation plan to identify
the full extent and importance of possible subsurface finds, including
those associated with the Indian burial grounds.
To provide adequate time for further research of Tribal records and
discussions with elders of the Tribe, and the possible drafting of
further mitigation, the Tribal Council requested that this case be
continued to the City Planning Commission's next regularly scheduled
meeting."
PUBLIC CENTS
None.
MARCH 23, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 14
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
CASE 3.0353. Application by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS for architectural
approval of Andreas Road Streetscape Program, Sections 14 and 15.
Redevelopment Planner (Terell ) stated that the streetscape has been
redesigned in response to AAC and Commission comments, that the design
is based on Cahuilla Indian baskets and begins to de-emphasize parking
and open the space. He described the design materials and stated that
the AAC gave concept approval , subject to conditions, one of which is to
relocate the crosswalk which would have a pedestrian signal , but not
traffic si gnal i zati on. He stated that the red material on the plan is
concrete, and that the AAC recommendation to relocate the center design
from the middle of the street was because the Committee felt a water
feature would attract people to the area.
M/S/C (Olsen/Hough; Whitney absent) approving the application, subject
to the following conditions:
1. That the patterned area in the center of the street be moved south
to penetrate the sidewalk.
2. That the patterned area be raised and separated from parking by a
curb.
3. That two parking spaces be deleted and a water feature developed.
4. That details of the sidewalk transition at the northeast corner of
Andreas and Palm Canyon Drive be submitted for review.
CASE 3.0342. Application by PERRY LISS for architectural approval of revised
plans for a single family residence on Camino del Norte between Via
Monte Vista/Stevens Road, R-1-C Zone, Section 10.
Planner (Vankeeken) showed the plans for Cases 3.0342 and 3.0343 on the
board and stated that the AAC recommended approval , subject to
conditions.
M/S/C (Curtis/Olsen; Whitney absent) approving the application, subject
to the following conditions:
1. That final landscape and grading plans be approved by the AAC and
Planning Commission.
2. That privacy walls between the two properties be addressed with
the final landscape plans.
3. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be met.
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CASE 5.0466-PD-196 (Continued)
there is nothing historic on the site, except for the flume which will
be protected. He stated that there are no historic buildings, and that
the building on the site is derelict.
Commissioner Curtis stated that the applicant has done a responsible job
from the testimony of the neighbors, that Palm Springs could use a
project such as the proposal (with some changes) , and that the project
should be continued for a site visit and further review to make the
project better and acceptable to everyone.
Commissioner Neel expressed the same opinion stating that the changes
recommended by the AAC should be considered and that if the project is
continued, it should proceed as quickly as possible.
Chairman stated that the site plan and the overall detailing of the
building are excellent, but that the center of the project should be
raised with both ends stepped to soften the impact.
Commissioner Edgmon stated that noise from the cooling tower was an AAC
concern, that she had visited the site and was concerned about the view
obstruction, and that it should be reviewed in the field.
Chairman stated that a field trip should be scheduled with the AAC and
Commission.
M/S/C (Curtis/Neel ; Olsen abstained; Whitney absent) continuing the
application to April 13 for a field trip with the AAC and Commission
before April 13.
Tribal Council Comments:
"Although this proposed project is not located on Indian trust land, the
identified as well as the potential impacts on archaeological/historical
resources of the Cahuilla people are very significant. While the
mitigation proposed in the Planning Commission staff report dated March
23, 1988 generally addresses these impacts, the Tribal Council seriously
questions the adequacy of the proposed test excavation plan to identify
the full extent: and importance of possible subsurface finds, including
those associated with the Indian burial grounds.
To provide adequate time for further research of Tribal records and
discussions with elders of the Tribe, and the possible drafting of
further mitigation, the Tribal Council requested that this case be
continued to the City Planning Commission' s next regularly scheduled
meeting."
PUBLIC COMENTS
None.
MARCH 23, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 15
CASE 3.0343. Application by PERRY LISS for architectural approval of resided
plans for a single family residence on Camino del Norte between Via
Monte Vista/Stevens Road, R-1-C Zone, Section 10.
M/S/C (Neel/Edgmon; Whitney absent) approving the application, subject
to the following conditions:
1. That final landscape and grading plans be approved by the AAC and
Planning Commission.
2. That privacy walls between the two properties be addressed with
the final landscape plan.
3. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be met.
Commissioner Curtis left the meeting.
CASE 3.0346. Application by DENNIS AUSTIN for architectural approval of a
single-family hillside residence on the southwest corner of Vista
Drive/Via Livorno, R-1-B Zone, Section 3.
Commissioner Hough suggested that the Commission and AAC visit the site
of the application.
M/S/C (Hough/Neel ; Curtis/Whitney absent) for a restudy of the
application, noting the following: That the AAC members visit the site.
SIGN APPLICATION. Application by BEST SIGNS for Desert Hospital for
architectural approval of a sign program for the Desert Hospital Sunrise
Building on the southwest corner of Sunrise Way/Vista Chino, P Zone,
Section 11.
M/S/C (Edgmon/Hough; Curtis/Whitney absent) for a restudy, noting the
following:
1. That there should be more design in the main identification sign.
2. That the individual signs be removed and a directory program be
used.
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (continued)
DISCUSSION. PLANNING COMMISSION discussion of Zoning Ordinance requirements
for video arcades.
Planning Director stated that the Zoning Ordinance requires that a video
arcade be 1000 feet from a school and that a letter has been received
from an applicant who is requesting a variance from this requirement in
order to place a video arcade in the Palm Springs Mall which is near
Palm Springs High School . He stated that even if the footage were
measured from the point of the arcade within the Mall , it would, still be
within the 1000-foot distance and that the applicant Imeets four
requirements of the Zoning Ordinance but cannot meet the fifth which is
MARCH 23, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 17
DISCUSSION (Continued)
COMMISSION/STAFF REPORTS OR REQUESTS.
Case 3.475. The Commission requested that the JimsAir storage yard be
reviewed by staff for large equipment storage which is visible from Gene
Autry Trail .
CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS. Update of City Council actions.
No report was given.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, Chairman adjourned the meeting to Tuesday,
March 29, 1988 at 1:30 p.m. in the Large Conference Room, City Hall.
PLANNIING DIRECTOR
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• on circulation are valid.
Commissioner Neel asked if the space were a pass-through.
Mr. Wessman replied that the area is a service area and also will
contain public restrooms. He explained that there may not be
any access from Palm Canyon because of the legal ramifications;
that the original plans were better, and that the new plans are
designed in their present configuration because he has no control .
He stated that he cannot lose any more square feet since he has
lost 2000 square feet on Tahquitz in order to have better
circulation.
Redevelopment Director explained that the developer is severely
restricted because of the law suit which forced him to leave a
portion of the library as it is, and that eventually the library
may be able to be converted back to the way it was (through appeals)
which will open the space.
Action was then taken on the motion for restudy. The vote was
as follows:
AYES: Kleindienst, Doczi
NOES: Mills , Hough, Edgmon
ABSENT: Whitney, Olsen, Buccino, Johnson
• The motion for restudy failed.
M/S/C (Hough/Edgmon; Doczi/Kleindienst dissented; Whitney/Olsen,
Buccino/Johnson absent) approving the revised application subject
to the following condition: That the entry element and elevations
on Tahquitz be reviewed by the AAC and Planning Commission in
working drawings.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
Posting of Agenda: Agenda posted on the west bulletin board,
and Planning Division counter, City Hall by 5:00 p.m. , Friday,
March 25.
Approval of Minutes: M/S/C Curtis/Edgmon; Whitney/Olsen absent
approving minutes of the March 9, 1988, meeting with the following
revision to the Planning Division "Conditions" (a portion of the
Development Committee minutes) : Case 5.0463-PD-195, Page 2,
Paragraph 11 , should read: ". . .parking management program 201
spaces) , and . . . total of 231 parking spaces. . . ".
Jeremy Crocker, 330 West Arenas Road, stated that he did not
understand the proposed remodeling shown for the Library courtyard
since if he understood the judicial decision, the courtyard is
in the perimeter; that since the south storage room is shown on
. the new plans as a planter, it is evident that the developer's