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Council Chamber, City Hall
February 24, 1988
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1987 - 1988
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to date
Larry Lapham, Chairman X 12 2
Hugh Curtis X 14 0
Martha Edgmon X 12 2
Brent Hough X 13 1
Earl Neel X 13 1
Gary Olsen X 13 1
Barbara Whitney X 12 2
Staff Present
Marvin D. Roos, Planning -Director
Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney
Douglas Evans, Planner
Margo Williams, Planner
Carol Vankeeken, Planner
Richard Patenaude, Planner
Dave Forcucci , Zoning Enforcement
John Terell , Redevelopment Planner
Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee - February 22, 1988
Chris Mills, Chairman Absent: Barbara Whitney, Alternate
Martha Edgmon, Alternate Brent Hough
William Johnson
Tom Doczi
Will Kleindienst
Mike Buccino
Gary Olsen, Alternate
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
M/S/C (Whitney/Hough; Lapham absent) approving minutes of February 10, 1988 as
submitted.
ADMINISTRATIVE NOTE:
There were no Tribal Council comments.
February 24, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 2
CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
M/S/C (Hou.gh/Edgmon; Lapham absent) taking the following actions:
CASE 3.0022 (Continued) . Application by ROBERT GENGLER for architectural
approval of revised final detailed landscape, irrigation, and exterior
lighting plans for a 5-unit apartment building on Saturnino/Calle Lileta
between Baristo Road/Tahquitz-McCallum Way, R-2 Zone, Section 13.
Approved, subject to the following conditions:
I. Replace Ficus Benjamina with Cocos Plumosa (24" box) in courtyard
area.
2. That Washingtonia Robusta be increase in height from from 8 ft. to 8,
10 and 12 feet.
3. Indicate what type of Raphiolepsis Indica to be used, subject to
staff approval .
CASE 3.0335. Application by JOE DACOSTA for architectural approval of single-
family hillside residence on Girasol Avenue between Cabrillo Road/N.
Racquet Club Road, R-1 Zone, Section 3.
` Restudy. Noting the following:
1. Finished grade should be more sensitive to natural topography.
2. Roof design to have more continuity.
3. Size of columns to be increased.
4. Restudy landscaping including rear yard area.
CASE 3.0339 (MINOR). Application by D & A SHADE COMPANY for architectural
approval of revised awning plans for restaurant (Speak Easy, formerly Pal
Joey's) at 233 E. Saturmino Road, C-1 Zone (I.L.) , Section 14.
Removed from the agenda, pending receipt of revised plans.
February 24, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 3
ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
SIGN APPLICATION. Application by YOUNG ELECTRIC SIGNS for architectural approval
o a main identification sign for the Hampton Inn on N. Palm Canyon Drive,
C-1 Zone, Section 3.
Approved, subject to the following conditions:
1. That the horizontal reveal be removed.
2. That the vertical reveal be extended to grade level .
3. That the logo be routed and lit.
4. That a small reveal be placed under accessory signs..
5. That the cabinet is to match sign face.
CASE 3.0345 (MINOR) Continued. Application by KWAN JIN LEE for architectural
approval of revised exterior elevations for business (former Gilligan's
Island) at 1200 N. Palm Canyon Drive, C-1 Zone, Section 10.
Planning Director described the applicant' s proposed revisions to the
building and stated that there are many maintenance items for the applicant
to complete.
Commissioner Neel stated that there was a dangerous broken sidewalk area on
the south side of the building on Indian Avenue.
Planning Director stated that the applicant will be required to repair the
sidewalk area, that the vacant lot to the north of the property is not part
of the project, and that the fence on the north is there to keep dumping
off the property. He stated that cleanup of the lot can be resolved as a
separate issue and that the air conditioning equipment screening is
included in the conditions of approval .
M/S/C (Olsen/Edgmon; Lapham absent) approving the application, subject to
the following conditions:
1. That no painted glass be used, spandrel glass to be used instead.
2. That the exterior colors are restudied.
3. That the portion to be filled in incorporate concrete block to match
existing block work.
4. That the mechanical screening plan be worked out with staff.
5. That the applicant repaint the entire building with colors to be
t�,.,, reviewed by the Commission.
February 24, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 4
ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT ACTION AGENDA (Continued)
Chairman entered.
CASE 3.0150 (MINOR) . Initiation by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS of architectural
approval of exterior lighting plans for driving range on Crossley Road, 0
Zone, Section 20.
Planning Director described the proposed lighting and stated that staff is
concerned about the proposed direction of the lighting from the 40-foot
light poles and also their height. He stated that the effect of the
lighting on the condo project to the east is also a concern and that
angling of the lights may be a solution or facing the lights to the west.
M/S/C (Hough/Whitney) for a restudy, noting the following:
1. That the sports cluster lights be eliminated.
2. That more ground level bunkers be used.
3. That down lights be used at the tee area.
4. That another lighting solution be reached instead of the 40-foot
light poles.
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
CASE 3.0353. Application by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS for architectural approval
of streetscape program for Andreas Road, Sections 14 & 15.
Planning Director stated that at the February 22 AAC meeting the project
was reviewed informally and several significantly different comments were
made from previous ones on the design. He stated that the area is a
pedestrian linkage to the Convention Center and the AAC restudied the
application to review the design as a pedestrian space with some parking
removed, with a wide sidewalk, and removal of planters. He stated that the
Redevelopment Agency is reviewing the entire block to the south for a
parking structure and the overall block design concept should be
coordinated with the design of Andreas before further plans are made.
Commissioner Curtis commented that if the intent is pedestrian oriented,
the area should be planted with trees and flowers and the asphalt removed
and perhaps planters placed in the center of the street for integration
with whatever structure is designed.
Planning Director explained that Commissioner Curtis' concept should be
explored and phasing employed; although parking is important to the area's
merchants.
February 24, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 5
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Continued)
CASE 3.0353 (Continued)
Commissioner Curtis replied that if there is a parking structure, no
parking is required. Planning Director replied that the parking structure
is not yet built, but could be part of the phasing.
Commissioner Olsen suggested a grassy area with benches, flowers, and trees
similar to the area between the Desert Museum and the Desert Fashion Plaza.
Redevelopment Planner stated that the concept is a glorified parking lot,
since the City does not have the ability to close the street because of
access easements and that parking is the key element. He stated that only
a small amount of money would be spent in the black-topped area and that
when the parking structure is built, the black-top will be retained for the
area.
Planning Director recommended that staff bring a short-term and a long-term
plan for the Commission to review and compare.
In reply to Commission questions, Redevelopment Planner stated that the
property owners on the street have been notified and have approved the
concept but do not want the street closed.
Planning Director stated that the one-way/two-way street system question on
Indian Avenue and Palm Canyon Drive does not relate to the plan.
Commissioner Whitney stated that the plan does not encourage pedestrians
because of traffic and parked cars.
Planning Director explainedthat the plan will be restudied and brought back
to the Commission.
M/S/C (Curtis/Olsen) for a restudy, noting the following: That a more
pedestrian-oriented concept be explored.
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
CASE 20.107. Application by PALM SPRINGS SPEED SAILING for Commission review of
an aquatic park for sailing events and general recreation sail on the
percolation ponds north of Highway 111 and south of the Southern Pacific
Railroad (Reference County CUP #2963) .
Planner (Evans) stated that the application is for a formal aquatic park
with daily operation and recreation events when the ponds are filled and
that the applicants are planning on approximately 10,000 people a day. He
stated that there are 62 acres of parking (5800 cars) , and that the County
Planning Departlient is requesting an EIR on traffic and infrastructure, but
not on use. He stated that traffic impacts, particularly access off
Highway 111, should be reviewed. In reply to Commission question, he
stated that the plans are as they are shown on the board and that the
applicant proposes to use existing road access, mobiles for offices,
sea/land storage containers, and portable sanitation facilities. He stated
that staff recommends that the applicants construct something permanent
rather than having portables.
February 24, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 6
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Continued)
CASE 20.107 (Continued)
Commissioner Olsen commented that further review is needed since the area
is a gateway to Palm Springs.
Planner stated that the County is concerned about the issues, but the State
will be concerned about access to Highway 111 and an EIR process will be
lengthy. He stated that the County may not be concerned about the
structures being modular and that the structures will be visible f0bm
Highway 111. He recommended that the Commission endorse the County request
for an EIR (which does not mean City approval of the project) .
Commissioner Curtis asked whether or not the ponds were the primary source
of drinking water for Palm Springs and Planner stated that it is the
primary recharge area. Commissioner commented that this is a concern.
Planner explained that the effect on drinking water is a prime concern to
be studied and that if the ponds are classified as swimming pools,
filtration becomes necessary and the County Health Department and Water
Quality Control Board will become involved.
M/S/C (Curtis/Olsen) endorsing the County's request for an EIR for an
aquatic park (reference CUP 2963, Riverside County) .
PUBLIC HEARINGS
CASE 5.0463-PD-195 (Continued). Application by the DESERT SUN for a Planned
Development District to allow construction of a newspaper publishing
facility including a portion of the facility with a 50 f t. building height
on Gene Autry Trail between Tachevah Drive/Ramon Road, M-1-P Zone, Section
7.
(Commission response to written comments on Draft Negative Declaration (no
comments received) action.)
Planner (Evans) described the project stating that the Commission restudied
it at the February 10 meeting and recommended the applicant address site
plan and building design. He stated that the AAC recommended restudy at
its February 22 meeting, although the Committee felt that the overall
direction of the revised design was positive. He noted that the Committee
recommended that the visitor entry be refined and parking, screening and
curvilinear frontage road be considered, although some of the members
expressed concern about the necessity for a frontage connection. He stated
that the water element should be expanded, the southerly driveway
redesigned to focus traffic to the entry, employee parking separated, and
that the service area should be screened and the employee parking area
refined. He stated that a pedestrian access to the employee entry should
be added. Regarding the building design, he stated that the AAC felt that
the direction of the building design was good, but that there should be
refinement of the massing materials and architectural style. He stated,
also, that the window elements should be refined, the flat plane of the
building needs relief and, also, that the north, east and south elevations
of the production area need refinement. He stated that tile and building
materials also should be reviewed and that some portions of the north
February 24, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 7
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0463 (Continued)
building had been stepped which is an improvement and that the planter
should be wrapped around the building for continuity. He stated that the
general consensus is that the architect is making progress, but refinement
is necessary.
Commissioner Curtis asked whether or not the applicant understood the
Commission and AAC direction.
Planner replied that the Commission should state its concerns, since the
applicant feels that the general concerns of the Commission have been
addressed.
Discussion continued regarding the north elevation. Planner stated that
the north elevation has a long flat element for production and warehousing
and that the AAC felt the wall needed to be more attractive although it
will have large berms against the building. He stated that the dark line
at the bottom of the building on the rendering is exposed aggregate and the
base of the building is tilt-up concrete, not stucco. He noted that the
building ends need termination that wrap around the building and give
relief to the surface. He described the configuration further and stated
that the entry way is recessed for depth and penetration.
Commissioner Olsen commented that the building will be double in size when
expansion are plans are built in the future. Planner stated that the
volume on the roof and the expansion will be that of an airport hangar and
the height will be 45 feet. In reply to Commissioner Whitney's questions,
he stated that the windows are dark tinted in a grid system and perhaps the
grid system is not integrating well with the building design. He stated
that the columns in the front elevation are doors and that when the design
is expanded, climate control must be maintained and the wall taken out
after the expansion is finished. He stated that the AAC felt that the wall
to be removed was of very expensive materials.
Commissioner Edgmon stated that much of the expansion is on the same plane
although landscaping and berming help, and that the sandblasted area did
not enhance the design enough although the revised design is an
improvement.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
Oza Bouchard of Christian and Bouchard Associates, project architect,
stated that no final design was attempted by the firm, but design concerns
were discussed with the AAC on February 22. He requested direction on the
design, stated that he knew more work was needed, and that he would work
with the Commission to arrive at a solution which meets the goals of the
client.
Commissioner Curtis suggested a meeting between the applicants and the AAC.
There being no further appearances, the hearing was closed.
Planning Director stated that since no protest from surrounding property
owners have been received, the Commission could approve the Planned
February 24, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 8
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0463 (Continued)
Development District and send the
p project to Council with Commission's
concerns and thoughts on the design since these need more study.
Commissioner Hough commented that the application should be sent to the
Council in total since there are so many concerns regarding the design of
the architecture and the site plan. He stated that the applicant has done
much work on the project, but the design had not changed very much.
M/S/C (Whitney/Edgmon) continuing the application to March 9 with a restudy
of the site plan and architecture, noting the following:
The AAC received the revised site plan and building design and felt that
although the overall direction was positive, the following concerns should
be considered in a further restudy:
A) Site Plan
The the visitor entry area be refined and parking, screening and a
curvilinear frontage road be considered. Several members expressed
concern about the frontage connection and its necessity. The water
element should be expanded. The southerly driveway should be
redesigned to focus traffic to the the entry with employee parking
becoming a secondary turning movement. The service/distribution area
should be screened from view to visitors using the south driveway.
The south employee parking area should be refined and the pedestrian
area to the employee entry be added.
B) Building Design
That the direction of the building design is improved and that
refinement of the massing, materials, and architectural style is
encouraged. Concerns expressed about the north elevation of the
office area were that the window elements need refinement; and that
the flat plane of the building needs relief. The north, east and
south elevations of the production area needs refinement and the
additional relief should be added to these areas. Comments about
building materials were favorable although several members expressed
concern about the proposed tile and transition between materials.
Additional terraced planters were encouraged.
Chairman suggested a study session between the applicants, staff, and the
AAC before the March 9 meeting.
CASE 5.0462-GPA & 5.0459-PD-133. Initiation by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS of a
General Plan Amendment from "Professional" to "Resort Commercial" and to
consider an application by MICHAEL HARRIS for a Planned Development
District in lieu of a change of zone to C-1-AA to allow construction of a
mixed use resort commercial complex including retail office and food
services on the northeast corner of Ramon Road/El Cielo Road, "P" Zone,
Section 18.
February 24, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 9
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0462-GPA & 5.0459-PD-133 (Continued)
(Commission response to written comments on Draft Negative Declaration (no
comments received); action.)
Recommendation: That the Commission order the filing of a Negative
Declaration and approve the General Plan Amendment and Planned Development
District.
Planner (Vankeeken) presented the case as described in the staff report (on
file in the Planning Division) .
Chairman declared the hearing open.
Michael Harris, 600 Tahquitz Way, the applicant, stated that he had
reviewed staff comments and accepted them and that he appreciated the
Commission' s consideration of the project.
Will Kleindienst, architect representing Chris Mills Associates, requested
that the driveway be offset and that the centerline at the access on the El
Cielo side to the south be allowed to stay at 200 feet.
Planning Director stated that the Traffic Engineer would have to respond to
the request and that the driveway is located where it is to be close in
alignment to El Cielo.
Mr. Kleindienst stated that the bus stop location was approved by the
Traffic Engineer.
Joan Harris, resident of the La Palme Condominium project on E1 Cielo and
Ramon, voiced concerns about the driveway with the left turn south on El
Cielo. She stated that if E1 Cielo ever has a median strip, traffic cannot
go south anyway, that the driveway should be left turn only, and people
should go north to Tahquitz for a better traffic flow. She inquired about
the type of food services, since there are many empty stores and businesses
currently.
There being no further appearances, Chairman declared the hearing closed.
Commissioner Olsen stated that offsetting a driveway causes accidents.
Planning Director stated that he would review the driveway location with
the Traffic Engineer and that the alignment is because there is a property
line along the driveway. He stated that the driveway could be required to
be aligned as a condition of the Planned Development District or could be
offset a different way. He suggested resolving the issue at the final
development plan stage.
Commissioner Curtis stated that he felt the project was well-designed and
he was surprised that residents of the Pueblo Sands Condominium Project on
Ramon and El Cielo were not present, since the project is immediately next
to the condominium walls.
Planning Director commented that it is a one-story building and asked for
direction on food services for the complex. He stated that food services
February 24, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 10
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0462-GPA & 5.0459-PD-133 (Continued)
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could be limited to uses listed on the plan, and that any future changes
should be approved by the Planning Commission.
Chairman commented that the type of restaurant makes no difference as long
as it is not a drive-through.
Commissioner Whitney stated that the location is close to the high school ,
on a dangerous corner and could endanger high school students if the food
services appeal to the students. She recommended that no fast food be
allowed.
M/S/C (Curtis/Olsen; Edgmon/Neel abstained) ordering the filing of a
Negative Declaration and approving the General Plan Amendment and Planned
Development District in lieu of a change of zone, based on the following
findings and subject to the following conditions:
Findings
1. That a Resort Commercial complex is necessary or desirable for the
development of the community; is in harmony with the various elements
and objectives of the General Plan as amended and is not detrimental
to existing uses or to future uses specifically permitted in the zone
in which the proposed use is to be located.
2. That the site, for the intended use is adequate in size and shape to
accommodate said use, including yards, setbacks, walls or fences,
landscaping and other features required in order to adjust said use
to those existing or permitted future uses of land in the
neighborhood.
3. That the site is served by Ramon Road and El Cielo Road (major
thoroughfares) which are adequate in size to service the traffic to
be generated by the proposed zone.
4. That the conditions to be imposed are deemed necessary to protect the
public health, safety and welfare of the community.
5. That the proposed General Plan Amendment brings the subject land into
conformance with the surrounding General Plan designations.
Conditions
1. That detailed final development plans for each phase or building
shall be submitted in accordance with Sections 9403.00 and 9404.00 of
the Zoning Ordinance as each phase is implemented.
2. That all Development Committee Conditions shall be implemented.
3. That all mitigation measures of the Environmental Assessment shall be
implemented.
a. That the provisions of Chapter 70 of the Uniform Building Code
blowsand abatement measure, as amended by the City, shall be
complied with.
February 24, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 11
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0462-GPA & 5.0459-PD-133 (Continued)
�- b. City Engineering Division conditions require that the site
accept and convey to an approved drainage carrier flood/or
nuisance water that impinge upon the site. Also, the City
Engineer requires that flood and/or nuisance waters leaving the
site will not cause erosion, nuisance or damage.
C. Due to the site's location immediately adjacent to the airport,
the noise level impact will be minimal . Impacts from the
lights can be mitigated through fixture type and location.
d. Development of the Planned Development District is subject to
the requirement and specifications of the final development
plan. The uses allowed are either allowed by zone (C-1-AA) or
may be considered under a Conditional Use Permit.
e. That Ramon Road and E1 Cielo Road (major thoroughfares) are of
adequate size to service the traffic to be generated by the
proposed project.
4. That no fast food services are allowed.
5. That no drive-through restaurants are allowed.
6. That approval of liquor stores and cocktail lounges in the project be
by CUP.
7. That the driveway alignment be resolved between the applicant and the
Traffic Engineer.
CASE 5.0467-GPA & 5.0450-CZ. Initiation by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS of a General
Plan Amendment from "Residential , L-4" to "Residential , M-15" for
approximately 18.5 acres near the southwest corner of the intersection of
Vista Chino/Sunrise Way and to consider an application by CHRIS MILLS for
Culver Nichols for a change of zone from GR-5 to R-2 on 7.5 acres on the
south side of Vista Chino Way west of Sunrise Way, GR-5 Zone, Section 11.
(Commission response to written comments on Draft Negative Declaration; no
comments received; action. )
Recommendation: That the Commission order the filing of a Negative
Declaration and approve the General Plan Amendment and Change of Zone.
Planner (Williams) presented the staff report (on file in the Planning
Division) including mitigative measures for the project.
Commissioner Whitney asked for clarification on dollars mitigating sewer
deficiencies. Planner stated that a sewer fund is established and the
money will be placed in the fund and a parallel line or other measure
implemented when warranted.
Planning Director explained that in the 1981 Tribal Council zone changes, a
study was prepared on density increases and the sewer system was found to
February 24, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 12
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0467-GPA & 5.0450-CZ (Continued)
be adequate except for the portion of a line along Sunny Dunes. He stated
that a specific cost was established and the same figures are being used
for the subject project. In response to Commissioner's Whitney's question,
he stated that the density does not create an immediate sewer problem
according to the study which has been reviewed by Engineering.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
Will Kleindienst, representing Chris Mills Architects, stated that he was
present to answer questions.
Anne Amato, resident of Ranch Club Estados south of the project, asked that
the type of construction be clarified. Chairman stated that R-2 zoning is
142 d.u./acre which is the type of construction of the Ranch Club Estados.
Mrs. Amato asked whether or not the complex would be brought to the
boundary line and the project size. Planning Director stated that nothing
specific has been submitted, but that senior housing is a possibility with
approximately 100 units and that setbacks would be based on the height of
the buildings and there would be 50% open space. He stated that the
complex just touches the corner of the Ranch Club at the garages and the
only view affected would be northwest. He stated that the property to the
north has no application at the present, but is owned by Desert Hospital
and the mass and size would be the same as the Ranch Club because it is
also R-2 zoning, and that if density bonuses or low-income housing were
�•— proposed, a public hearing notice would be sent to the property owners.
Mrs. Amato stated that few people received the hearing notices for the
February 24 meeting.
There being no further appearances, Chairman closed the public hearing.
Planner explained that the 72 acres outlined in red on the board is the
area of the General Plan Amendment.
M/S/C (Olsen/Curtis) ordering the filing of a Negative Declaration and
approving the General Plan Amendment and zone change, based on the
following findings and subject to the following conditions:
Findings (General Plan Amendment) :
1. The proposed General Plan Amendment from Residential L-4 to
Residential M-15 is consistent with existing land use patterns and
not likely to be detrimental to surrounding uses or future uses.
2. The existing infrastructure can accommodate the proposed density
without any adverse impacts based on the mitigation measures being
implemented at the time of development.
3. The subject property is suitable for the uses permitted in the
proposed designation in terms of access, size of parcel and
` relationship to similar or related uses.
Findings (Zone Change) :
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0467-GPA & 5.0450-CZ (Continued)
-' 1. The proposed change of zone is necessary and proper at this time and
is not likely to be detrimental to the adjacent property or resident.
2. The subject property is suitable for the uses permitted in the
proposed designation in terms of access, size or parcel and
relationship to similar or related uses.
3. The proposed Zone Change will not create any adverse environmental
impacts, provided the mitigation measures of the environmental
assessment and conditions of the General Plan Amendment are
implemented.
Conditions:
1. That the mitigation measures in the environmental assessment apply at
the point of development.
2. That the vacant parcels be developed in accordance with the
development standards of the R-2 Zone.
3. That the mitigation measures of the environmental assessment be
implemented at the time of any development of the site.
., CASE 5.0468-GPA & 5.0453-PD-192. Initiation by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS of a
General Plan Amendment from "Planned Research and Development Park" to
"Limited Multiple-Family Residential" and "Neighborhood Commercial" and to
consider an application by the NEWPORT NATIONAL GROUP for a Planned
Development District to allow a mixed use development including apartments
and a light industrial office park on 55+ acres on the southeast corner of
Gene Autry Trail/Vista Chino, M-1-P/W-M-17-P Zones, Section 7.
(Commission response to written comments on Draft Negative Declaration;
action. Responses included in staff report. )
Planning Director stated that the application has been before the City in
many forms over four years, that there have been some significant changes,
and the applicant has concurred with most of staff's recommendations.
Planner (Williams) presented the staff report (on file in the Planning
Division) , including mitigative measures and responses to Environmental
Assessment comments. She stated that mitigative measures have been
developed for impacts, including a traffic study, flood impacts, airport
impact, and water resources; and that the Director of Community Development
is concerned about the R-2 density and feels that any density bonus should
meet established housing goals of the City for low and moderate-income
families. She stated that the applicant is concerned about the "Airport
Noise and Blowsand" designation on a portion of the property and requests
that the "Industtrial" designation be left in place to be used for an
industrial business park in the future, if the subject project is not
�"'' built.
February 24, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 14
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0468-GPA & 5.0453-PD-192 (Continued)
Chairman stated that the Commission in the recent study session with
applicant explained that the "Industrial" designation would be deleted.
Planning Director stated that the applicants feel that it could be several
years before the East Area Specific Plan (EASP) is developed, and that they
want to be able to develop the bottom third of the property as an
industrial park, if necessary. He stated that the concept would be to use
final development plans to develop a portion as a business park with the
"Airport" designation (which is a compatible use) extended to that portion.
James Prock, 5962 La Place, Carlsbad, the applicant, requested the right to
develop a business park, if the EASP is not developed within a reasonable
time period. He stated that the 25% low-income provision is acceptable,
provided there is flexibility in how it is configured and requested that
the fire station "dot" be placed on property on the west side of Gene Autry
Trail . He requested that the cost of the undergrounding of utilities be
coordinated through the City. He also requested that the south driveway in
the retail section remain for service to that section, and that street
improvements be constructed on the subject property, not offsite.
There being no further appearances, the hearing was closed.
Planning Director reiterated six items of concern as follows:
1. Development of the Lower 28 acres. Could be reserved for future use
d.,. as a business park with a specific list of uses placed in final
development plans and with no application for a period of time while
the EASP is being prepared.
2. Site Plan Flexibility. Staff is concerned that setting aside an area
for low-cost housing would create an impact on that area and that the
housing should be spread throughout the project so that no onus
occurs in a particular area. The variety of income levels in the
complex could be developed in conjunction with the Housing Division.
3. Fire Station. General Plan requires that land be set aside for a
fire station. The station could be on another parcel or an
alternative to the fire station could be developed, such as
spri nkl eri ng of the housing or, if budget cuts become a reality, the
possible deletion of the fire station. Staff would leave the
designation as a potential fire station.
4. South Driveway. Problems can be solved in final development plans,
although a median on Gene Autry makes the question moot.
5. Offsite Improvements. Should not be deleted since they are
mitigative measures for offsetting impacts of substandard
improvements.
6. Utility Undergrounding. Not an offsite requirement and can be
resolved with the City. One of the lines may be 115 KV which is not
�' required to be undergrounded.
February 24, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 15
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0468-GPA & 5.0453-PD-192 (Continued)
Chairman asked if the requirement for improvements 300 feet north of the
project in the County were unusual .
Planning Director replied that some of the improvements are installed and
the cost could be reimbursed if an agreement with the County could be
reached.
Chairman stated that he did not think the applicant should be required to
pay the cost without reimbursement.
In reply to a question from Commissioner Curtis, he stated that the Traffic
Engineer feels that it is necessary to have improvements to the west side
of Gene Autry because of traffic conflicts.
In reply to Commission Olsen's question, Planning Director stated that the
project will generate 5,000 trips a day from the residential section, that
there are 12,000 cars a day presently on Gene Autry and 16,000 on Vista
Chino, and that a traffic increase of 33% would be generated by the
complex. He stated that a condition in final development plans should be
that no business park development take place for 12 to 18 months, in order
that staff can develop the EASP.
Mr. Prock stated that the residential portion of the project would be built
first and the commercial second.
Commissioner Curtis stated that the southern portion of the project should
be accommodated and that the overall project concept is acceptable.
M/S/C (Curtis/Neel ) ordering the filing of a Negative Declaration and
approving the General Plan Amendment and Planned Development District based
on the following findings and subject to the following conditions:
Findings (General Plan Amendment) :
1. That diversifying the land use types on the General Plan for the
subject property is appropriate given the oversupply of industrial
property throughout the community.
2. That the commercial/residential/business park uses requested are
initially compatible with the direction the Planning Commission has
requested for the area east of the airport.
3. That the specific plan (EASP) for the overall area east of the
airport has not yet commenced.
4. That residential density increases in General Plan designation have
consistently been reserved for projects meeting identified General
Plan Housing Element needs, particularly for low and moderate-income
households.
5. That prior to the property being designated "Industrial", the overall
75 acre subject property was designated "Airport Noise and Blowsand"
which allowed a maximum 3.5 du/acre which would have yielded 263
units if approved under a Condition Use Permit.
February 24, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 16
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0468-GPA & 5.0453-PD-192 (Continued)
6. That using the previous density and applying a 25% density bonus
would result in a 329 unit potential .
7. That allowing 500 units on the property would constitute a 90%
density increase over an assumed 3.5 du/acre basis.
Implementation Measures for General Plan:
1. That a floating "dot" be used to identify a neighborhood shopping
center designation.
2. That a floating "dot" be used to identify a multiple-family housing
site of up to 500 units, including 25% for low-income families.
3. That the industrial designation be removed.
4. That an "Airport" designation be used as a base land use for the
remainder of the property.
5. That the lower 28 acres be designated as "Business Park"
("Industrial" deleted) with no applications accepted until the EASP
is prepared.
Findings (Planned Development District):
1. That a Planned Development District in lieu of a change of zone for
this type of land use is the proper application authorized by the
Zoning Ordinance.
2. That the site is adequate in size, shape, and area to accommodate the
proposed land uses.
3. That surrounding streets and infrastructure have sufficient capacity
to serve the project provided the mitigation measures of the
environmental assessment are implemented.
4. That the proposed development is consistent with the General Plan and
its objectives.
5. That the proposed development is compatible with surrounding land
uses, is not likely to cause any detrimental effects, and is
appropriate at this time.
Conditions:
1. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be implemented.
2. That all mitigative measures outlined in the environmental assessment
be implemented.
3. That 25% of the housing units be reserved for low-income families
with rental guidelines to be approved by the Economic Development and
Housing Division as part of the final development plans.
February 24, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 17
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0468-GPA & 5.0453-PD-192 (Continued)
4. That the development participate in an assessment district to hard
line the Whitewater Channel levee if such a district is formed.
5. That the project shall participate in the implementation of the Mid-
Valley Parkway to the extent it abuts the project.
6. That a reimbursement agreement with the County properties be
developed for offsite street improvements.
7. That an irrigation easement and non-suit covenant be recorded on the
property.
Commissioners Curtis and Whitney left the meeting.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
None.
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
CASE 5.0421-PD-185. Application by DESERT HOSPITAL for architectural approval of
landscape, irrigation and exterior lighting plans for parking lot and
helipad on Paseo El Mirador, between North Indian Avenue/Via Miraleste, R-4
Zone, Section 11.
Planning Director stated the AAC recommended approval of the landscape
design, of the helipad, and parking lot "B" and that the helicopter flight
path should be discussed.
Planner (Patenaude) presented the landscape plan on the board and stated
that additional shade trees will be added to the sidewalk plan per AAC
recommendations. Because the helipad will be elevated 5 feet above the
surrounding surface, turf with a rock scape around the outer edge, he
stated that trailing plants are being investigated since flowers would be
blown away by the wash of the helicopters. He stated that a flight path
has been prepared with a primary approach to the west of the helipad and to
the southwest of the hospital parking lot, then to the Palm Canyon/Indian
Avenue corridor, flying both to the north and to the south. He stated that
the alternate would be to the north following Mel and then to the corridor
which would bypass the single-family residential neighborhoods to the east.
He stated that the multi-family residential and apartment projects on Mel
would be overflown and that most of the flights would use the primary
pattern with the alternate being used only when the primary was in service.
February 24, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 18
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Continued)
CASE 5.0421-PD-185 (Continued)
Commissioner Hough stated that the primary path would be used according to
weather conditions.
Robert Silberstein, 486 The Palms, adjacent to the proposed helipad, asked
if the approval were just the lighting and the helipad. Chairman stated
that the hospital is informing the Commission of the preliminary approval
of the flight path.
Mr. Silberstein stated that he was opposed to the plan and asked about
lights on the helipad.
Planner stated that the lighting is activated by the helicopter and are
landing lights only. He stated that perimeter lights are to be located
around the pad.
Chairman stated that the lights shine directly up to the sky to define the
landing area.
Mr. Silberstein questioned the effect on neighboring homes. Planner
explained that the lights are aimed upward.
Mike Fontana, hospital planner, stated that the lights are flushed mounted
and are only seen from above with no light spillover.
Chairman stated that the parking lot lights are like those now at the
hospital .
Planning Director stated that there are no floodlights on the parking lots.
Mr. Silberstein asked about the lighting effect on the skyline. Planner
explained that the parking lot lights are required to be contained on the
hospital property.
Mr. Silberstein objected, stating that the lights are adding "insult to
injury" and that legal action will be filed.
Vince Dundee, 455 The Palms, questioned the flight path from the north.
Chairman explained that it would be down the Indian Avenue and Palm Canyon
corridor, approaching the hospital ; that use of the path to the north would
be according to weather conditions; and that the helicopters will be flying
over the hospital parking area. He stated that the Palm Springs Regional
Airport determines the routing.
Planning Director stated that once the flight path is adopted by the FAA,
it will be encoded and carriers will be alerted to use the primary path
unless it is in service. He stated that once the route is encoded, the
tower is in contact with the helicopter.
Mr. Dundee stated that the tower closes at 11 p.m.
Commissioner Hough stated that some flights will arrive after 11 p.m. , but
that the helicopters will still have the encoded flight path to follow.
February 24, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 19
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Continued)
CASE 5.0421-PD-185 (Continued)
-� Planning Director stated that the flight path plan is being submitted to
the FAA and CalTrans and if there are additional concerns, they will be
forwarded to the FAA and brought back to the Commission, in another
hearing, if the Commission is not aware of the alterations.
Chairman stated that if the pattern is changed, the Commission will start
over again in its review.
Mr. Dundee questioned whether or not the Commission were interested in
alternative flight paths to mitigate damages.
Chairman explained that the route has been resolved with airport input and
have taken months.
Mr. Dundee stated that he was giving the Commission a chance to mitigate
damages.
Marie Cooper, 475 The Palms (300 feet from the helipad), stated that the
last two weeks have been noisier than the b months prior and that she had
been living in the City 13 years. She stated that the prospect of the
helipad has lowered property values causing an undesirable element in the
neighborhood and that there have been rapes and a murder recently. She
asked to whom she could turn to voice complaints. She also asked that if
the trauma center were closed, if the neighborhood would be forced to
endure the helipad or if it could be eliminated.
Mike Fontana stated that he could not say that the helipad would be
eliminated.
Planning Director stated that it would be used for emergency purposes only.
Mr. Fontana stated that the emergency room has 24-hour service and a trauma
center, but the center also has surgical team specialists on-call within 15
to 20 minutes and that there are still reasons to land a helicopter for
emergency purposes.
Mrs. Cooper stated that the airport is five minutes away and if specialists
require 15 to 20 minutes to reach the hospital , the helicopter should land
at the airport. She stated that residents are trying to sell their homes,
if they can.
Mr. Dundee stated that he was under the impression that the trauma center
is the reason for the helipad, and that he is now being told that the
helipad will be used even if there is no trauma center.
Chairman reiterated that the use is for emergency purposes only.
Mr. Dundee reiterated that the helipad was presented as a necessity for the
trauma center.
Mr. Fontana stated that the hospital is operating both a trauma center and
an emergency room so that he did not see what the furor is about if the
trauma center is retained.
February 24, 1988 PC MINUTES Page 20
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Continued)
CASE 5.0421-PD-185 (Continued)
�-' Commissioner Olsen described his adventures with the search and rescue team
in saving of a badly injured boy and rescuing him from a cliff in Tahquitz
Canyon. He stated that if the helicopter had not been used to save him,
the boy would have died; and admonished people in the audience for
criticizing the helicopters when they are often a lifesaving necessity.
M/S/C (Neel/Olsen; Curtis/Whitney absent) approving the application,
subject to the following condition:
That design of the parking lot shall be subject to the provisions of
Section 9306.00, including parking lot shading.
Chairman Lapham left; Commissioner Olsen presided.
CASE 3.0335. (Continued) Application by JOE DACOSTA for architectural approval
of single-family hillside residence on Girasol Avenue between Cabrillo
Road/N. Racquet Club Road, R-1-C Zone, Section 3.
Planning Director stated that the applicants for the subject single-family
residence have requested reconsideration of the restudy action of the
Commission.
Anthony Araiza, project architect, representing the applicant, gave a
history of the project stating that a topo was prepared per Planning
Commission direction, was provided to the Division, and that a
representative of staff stated that the area was not hillside and only
Building Division requirements were necessary. He stated that a member of
the Engineering Division prepared house plans which did not satisfy the
Building Division, that he was asked to help, that Engineering found that
the lot could not be filled because of the slope and directed that the
house be redesigned to follow the contour of the property (which was done),
that after that the Planning Division told him that the house is in an
architectural area and an architectural approval application was necessary
(which was submitted) , that the design was not received well by the AAC and
a restudy was recommended. He requested direction from the Commission to
develop and acceptable design and stated that the applicant has been trying
for two years to complete the project.
Commissioner Olsen read the AAC conditions and stated that they were
specific. Mr. Neel asked if the problems could be resolved with staff.
Planner (Vankeeken) showed the pads of the adjoining homes on the display
board.
Commissioner Hough explained that it is not in the Commission's purview to
redesign a house or make aesthetic recommendations.
Mr. Araiza stated that a member of his staff had taken notes at the AAC
meeting and felt that there was no definite direction.
Mr. Araiza was given a copy of the AAC minutes and Commissioner Edgmon
stated that the recommendations of the Committee were specific and not as
negative as Mr. Araiza thought.
February 245- 1988 PC MINUTES Page 21
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Continued)
CASE 3.0335 (Continued)
Mr. Araiza stated that the specifics could be addressed as recommended by
the Planning Commission, that the neighborhood is low- to medium-income,
and the subject house may be overbuilt, and that he would address the
specific recommendations and return to the AAC.
Commissioners Edgmon and Olsen stated that the column size should be
increased.
No more action was taken.
NB: Planning Director stated that the history of the processing of the
house was not exactly as Mr. Araiza indicated.
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Continued)
CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS. Update of City Council actions.
No report was given.
COMMISSION/STAFF REPORTS OR REQUESTS.
Vegetable stands at Vista Chino and Gene Autry. Illegal stand with
homemade signs set up on weekends. Planning Director stated that if the
City sees it, the operators will be told to cease the operation.
ADDED STARTERS.
None.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, Commissioner Olsen adjourned the meeting at 4:50
p.m.
rLARMG DIRECTOR
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WP/PC MIN
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
Council Chamber, City Hall
March 9, 1988
. 1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1987 - 1988
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to date
Larry Lapham, Chairman X 13 2
Hugh Curtis X 15 0
Martha Edgmon X 13 2
Brent Hough X 14 1
Earl Neel X 14 1
Gary Olsen X 14 1
Barbara Whitney X 13 2
Staff Present
Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director
Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney
Douglas Evans, Planner
Margo Williams, Planner
Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee - March 7, 1988
Chris Mills, Chairman Absent: Barbara Whitney, Alternate
Martha Edgmon, Alternate Gary Olsen, Alternate
William Johnson
• Tom Doczi
Will Kleindienst
Mike Buccino
Brent Hough
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1 :30 p.m.
M/S/C (Curtis/Hough) approving minutes of February 24, 1988 with the following
corrections:
Page 20, first paragraph; (Case 5.0421-PD-185) : Change "adventures" to
"operations".
ADMINISTRATIVE NOTE:
There were no Tribal Council comments.
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