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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1987/11/25 - MINUTES ' PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES Council Chamber, City Hall November 25, 1987 1:30 p.m. ROLL CALL F-Y 1987 - 1988 Present Present Excused Absences Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to date Larry Lapham, Chairman - 8 1 Hugh Curtis X 9 0 Martha Edgmon X 7 2 Brent Hough X 8 1 Earl Neel X 8 1 Gary Olsen X 3 1 Barbara Whitney X 7 2 Staff Present Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney Richard Patenaude, Planner Margo Williams, Planner Carol Vankeeken, Planner Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary Architectural Advisory Committee - November 23, 1987 Chris Mills, Chairman Absent: Mike Buccino Martha Edgmon Barbara Whitney William Johnson Brent Hough, alternate Will Kleindienst Gary Olsen, alternate Tom Doczi Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m. M/S/C (Neel/Hough; Lapham absent) approving minutes of November 12, 1987 as submitted. There were no Tribal Council comments. ADMINISTRATIVE NOTE Chairman Lapham was absent; Vice-Chairman Curtis presided. November 25, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 2 CONSENT ACTION AGENDA Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted ,. must be exercised within that time period unless extended. M/S/C (Hough/Olsen; Lapham absent) taking the following actions: CASE 3.702. Application by KAPTUR & CIOFFI for Peri-Mel 1 for architectural approval of screening of florescent light fixtures for 118 unit condominium project on Avenida Caballeros between Arenas Road and Saturmino Road, R-4 Zone (I.L.), Section 14. Continued to December 9 for field trip by the AAC. CASE 3.785. Application by RICHARD EHRLICH for architectural approval of revised plans for entry gates for 134 unit apartment project located between East Palm Canyon Drive/Avery/Compadre, R-3 Zone, Section 24. Restudy noting the following: : 1. That a stepped masonry wall be used in place of the fixed panels. 2. That a square bar stock with radius corners is an acceptable gate frame with round pickets. 3. That a detailed street elevation be presented, including adjacent building. CASE 3.0204 (MINOR)/3.343. Application by ROBERT CHEROSKE for architectural approval of existing building color for single family hillside residence at 575 N. Patencio Road, R-1-A Zone, Section 10. Removed from the agenda (color of paint on the building is as approved by the Planning Commission). CASE 3.0205 (MINOR). Application by ROBERT WEITHORN for architectural approval of stucco of slumpstone wall and color for Orchid Tree Hotel , 261 S. Belardo, R-3 Zone, Section 15. Approved subject to the following conditions: 1. That cap of pool enclosure wall be removed and that wall be stucco to match finish (texture) and color of cottages. 2. That garden walls be painted or stained or mortar wash applied and painted to match the color of cottages. November 25, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 3 CONSENT ACTION AGENDA (Continued) CASE 3.0262. Application by ALEXANDER COLER for architectural approval of landscape and irrigation plans for single family residence at Patencio Road/O'Donnell Golf Course, R-1-A Zone, Section 15. Continued to December 9 at the applicant's request. CASE 3.0318 (MINOR). Application by EXPRESS GAS for architectural approval of revised building color and revised sign for service station at 2901 N. Palm Canyon Drive, U-R Zone, Section 3. Continued to December 9. CASE 3.0324 (MINOR) . Application by CHRISTOPHER MILLS for architectural approval of revision to existing stone wall to allow mounting of brass letters for Liebling Building on the northeast corner of Tahquitz Way/N. Palm Canyon, C-B-D Zone, Section 15. Approved as submitted. CASE 5.0424-CUP. Application by the MARRIOTT CORP. for architectural approval of revised detailed landscape and irrigation and exterior lighting plans and a main identification sign for a 149 unit hotel on the east side of Hermosa Drive/Tahquitz Way/Andreas Drive, R-4-VP/C-1-AA Zones (I.L. ), Section 14. Continued to December 9. CASE 7.675-AMM. Application by TOM DOCZI for architectural approval of final detailed landscape, irrigation, and exterior lighting plans for a single family residence at 690 Stevens Road, R-1-A Zone, Section 11. Restudy noting the following: That a cutout in the driveway be provided for landscaping per original conditions. ITEM REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT ACTION AGENDA Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted must be exercised within that time period unless extended. CASE 3.0277 (Continued). Application by SCOTT DORIUS for architectural approval of revised plans for mini-storage building on Gene Autry Trail between East Palm Canyon Drive/Palm Canyon Drive, M-1 Zone (I.L. ), Section 20. Planner (VanKeeken) described the revised plans with the Commission at the board. She stated that the AAC recommended landscape and site plan November 25, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 4 ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT ACTION AGENDA (Continued) CASE 3.0277. (Continued) approval but a restudy of the managers unit. Commissioner Olsen commented that the managers unit is a step backward in its design and questioned whether or not the project should be approved since the project was the catalyst for the scenic corridor revisions. Planning Director stated that the application could be approved because the City Council had not finally endorsed the corridor zoning concept and the project use is currently by right of zone. He stated that the City Attorney recommends that the project not be denied because of its use and stated that it can be re-evaluated at the building permit stage if the Council endorses the scenic corridor zoning revisions. Assistant City Attorney stated that whatever approval was given would be for the architectural issues and would not address whether or not the project should go forward. He stated that if the architecture were approved the application would be finished and that it does not matter if it is continued or action on the architecture taken. Commissioner Olsen reiterated that the architecture is not appropriate on a scenic corridor. Commissioner Hough suggested a restudy of the manager's unit. Commissioner Neel stated that the landscaping is adequate and that staff and the applicant can resolve the architectural issues. Vice-Chairman stated that he did not like the large number of windows, but that the landscaping has been increased and hides the project. He asked about staff concerns over the number of trees inside the project. Planning Director stated that he had discussed the landscaping with the applicants and thought that trees should be added to the middle row of buildings but the Fire Department has requirements that prevent the addition of trees but that the applicants will meet with staff to review this possibility. Vice-Chairman commented that the wall is sterile in appearance and questioned whether or not there is any offset in the wall . Planning Director stated that the wall has offsets and is split faced block with a fluted block outline. M/S/C (Neel/Hough; Lapham absent) approving the site plan and landscape plan subject to the following conditions: 1. Site plan and landscape plan: That the entry gate be on inside of wall . 2. Restudy of managers unit noting: `�... a. That a roof plan be submitted. b. That the balconies be of a solid material. November 25, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 5 ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT ACTION AGENDA (Continued) CASE 3.0277. (Continued) C. That fluted block be carried acros top element of north elevation. d. That fluted block column be added to east elevation. PUBLIC HEARINGS CASE 5.0400-ZTA (Continued). PLANNING COMMISSION review of M-1 provisions on scenic corridors for inclusion in the Zoning Ordinance. (An Environmental Assessment/Initial Study has been previously considered and a Negative Declaration filed on the original zoning text amendments. ) Planning Director stated that the Commission passed a series of revisions to the Zoning Ordinance and gave verbal direction that mini- warehouses in M-1 Zones be by CUP application and that staff recommends eliminating the uses in conflict with the general direction on the M-1 Zoning given by the Commission. He stated that Part I of the revisions addresses all lots in the M-1 Zone and Part II addresses lots not located within two hundred feet of a scenic corridor. He recommended continuance to December 9 so that a Commission subcommittee can review the revisions, because the revisions will involve Indian lands and the Tribal Council consultant was told that the case would be continued and also because the revisions are no different from those staff recommended in 1981, which were viewed by the Tribal Council as too restrictive. He stated that the revisions may have to be refined. Vice-Chairman declared the hearing open; there being no appearances the hearing was closed. Vice-Chairman selected Commissioners Edgmon and Hough as representatives to review the M-1 revisions with staff. M/S/C (Olsen/Neel ; Lapham absent) continuing the amendments to the Zoning Ordinance to December 9. Vice-Chairman commented that the Commission supports staff's direction on the revisions. CASE 5.0453-PD-192 (Continued) . Application by BOGIE ROAD DEVELOPMENT for a Planned Development District to allow construction of a commercial development, multi-family residential apartments, and office complex at the southeast corner of Gene Autry Trail/Vista Chino, M-I-P/W-M-IP Zone, Section 7. Planning Director stated that the Commission has the option to remove the application from the agenda for a General Plan amendment study or to deny the project as inconsistent with the General Plan; and that the Commission has indicated that the project is acceptable and would bring vitality to November 25, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 6 PUBLIC HEARINGS Continued) CASE 5.0453-PD-192. (Continued) `.r the area. He stated that staff's recommendation would be to study the General Plan regarding the residential use and defer the study on the industrial portion. He stated that a question would be whether or not to leave the industrial on the General Plan and work around it or to develop a new designation or a method to insure compatibility of the project. Vice-Chairman declared the hearing open. James Prock, 5942 La Place Court, Carlsbad, the applicant stated that he had no further suggestions and that any option which would address the industrial portion and give flexibility to the use if industrial is eliminated would be acceptable. He stated that a redesignation to expand the residential portion or development of a commercial element consistent with the development that is occurring around it would also be acceptable, but that leaving industrial zoning on the property would allow no flexibility and leave the project in limbo. He stated that a designed mixed use project is desirable and requested that the twenty- nine acres of industrial be included in the General Plan. He stated that a resort hotel or residential zone would be satisfactory for those acres. Planning Director stated that the present zoning is 0-5 on the adjoining property which allows residential development at 3.5 units per acre and that the study may have to be expanded beyond the project site to make uses on the property compatible with the area. He stated that the prop- erty further south is M-I-P and all the properties next to the subject .proposal are 0-5. He stated that there would be retention of flood waters on the 29 acres whether or not it was zoned industrial, the other acres would develop around the 29 acre site, and that an assessment district is being formed, probably within two months. He stated that the commercial uses would require a CUP and the residential section would require a General Plan Amendment, and that the commercial uses could be placed on the 29 industrial acres under a Planned Development District, that a palette of resort uses cwould be developed and perhaps a new General Plan designation for the southern tip of the property could be developed, (perhaps "resort") but probably not residential or hotel or apartment zoning because there should not be a corridor of high density nor resort commercial development along the corridor. Mr. Prock suggested commercial under a CUP on the north portion of the property and stated that the most desirable land uses could be addressed later. Planning Director stated that staff' s recommendation would be "resort commercial" "or neighborhood shopping center" to eliminate industrial park uses on both sides of a residential area. M/S/C (Hough/Olsen; Lapham absent) removing Case 5.0453-PD-192 from the agenda pending a General Plan study per staff recommendations. November 25, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 7 PUBLIC HEARINGS Continued) CASE 5.0454-CUP (Ref. Case 3.0260) Continued. Application by LASZLO SANDOR for Harold Matzner for a conditional use permit to allow construction of a tennis court with substandard setbacks on Crescent Drive/Patencio Road/R-1- A Zone, Section 10. (This action is categorically exempt from Environmental Assessment per CEQA guidelines. ) Planning Director stated that the applicant has submitted a plan that improves the aesthetics of the parking although the Commission recommended no parking within the setbacks. Vice-Chairman declared the hearing open. Laszlo Sandor, project architect, Indian Wells, stated that the plan has addressed the concerns of the neighbors; that the tennis court is sunken four feet; that a compatible masonry wall of the same height as the neighboring wall has been designed, and one parking space has been eliminated. He stated that the driveway entrance has been shifted and mounding and decorative paving added; that the driveway was not eliminated since the client needs it because of no other parking, and that the project meets setback requirements by averaging setbacks. There being no further appearances, Vice-Chairman declared the hearing closed. Mr. Sandor stated that the landscaping has been removed from the north side of the court because the area faces a neighbor's service yard and a wall and is not visible from any angle and is compatible with the desert in its present state. M/S/C (Olsen/Edgmon; Lapham absent) approving CUP 5.0454 based on the following findings and subject to the following conditions: Findings 1. That the southerly portion of the site contains a steep hillside which restricts the available area for construction of a tennis court. 2. That the lot is narrower than specified in the R-1-A section of the Zoning Ordinance. 3. That a tennis court which intrudes into the setbacks can be con- sidered under a CUP. 4. That the tennis court is accessory to a residential lot and as such is necessary and desirable for the development of the community and is in harmony with the General Plan, and as conditioned is not detrimental to existing or future uses in the zone. 5. That the site is adequate in size and shape to accommodate the use, including yards and setbacks and walls or fences, landscaping and November 25, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 8 PUBLIC HEARINGS Continued) CASE 5.0454-CUP. (Continued) other features to adjust the use to existing or future uses in the neighborhood. Conditions 1. That detailed landscaping plans be submitted prior to issuance of a grading permit. 2. That this approval does not include illumination of the court, which is prohibited by the Zoning Ordinance. 3. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be met. 4. That final detailed landscape, exterior lighting, and irrigation plans be submitted. TPM 22406 (Continued) . Application by HACKER ENGINEERING COMPANY INC, for John Rocca for tentative parcel map to subdivide property into thirteen lots for residential purposes at Morongo Trail/Araby Drive, R-1-B Zone, Section 25. (Commission response to written comments on Draft Negative Declaration; action. ) Planning Director stated that the subdivision is unusual, that the rear property lines on some of the lots are the streets for the rest of the properties, and that the AAC recommended approval to be subject to land- scaping and maintenance (with a landscape plan to be submitted and a means to maintain it), and that the applicants have submitted a revised plan for overall landscaping for which the AAC recommended approval . He stated that the applicant agrees to the landscaping revisions but is voicing concern over the private maintenance requirement, feeling that a homeowners association for such a small project would be a detriment and is requesting a maintenance district. He stated that a maintenance district would be possible for the landscaping but not for the private streets and the appli- cation needs to be continued for development of a mechanism to accomplish the desired maintenance6redesign of the project. Vice-Chairman declared the hearing open. Rhonda Cress, 15342 Hawthorn Blvd. , Lawndale, representing the applicant, stated that the applicant does not want a homeowners association and requested that street maintenance be addressed some other way. Planning Director stated that no private streets have been maintained with maintenance agreements in the City, that staff feels that a homeowners association is necessary but would be willing to explore other possibilities; and that research is needed to determine whether or not a public street would take too much right-of-way from the lots and affect them negatively. November 25, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 9 PUBLIC HEARINGS Continued) TPM 22406. (Continued) Ms. Cress stated that the property lines are as tight as they can be pre- sently, and that the streets cannot be widened to make public streets. Planning Director stated that more research is needed and the problem should be resolved at the December 9 meeting. He stated that the sidewalk requirement is a standard one for any subdivision but that the Commission could review the area and determine whether or not the sidewalk requirement should be waived. Ms. Cress suggested landscaping to the curb and Planning Director stated that it could be discussed. Assistant City Attorney stated that without a homeowners association there is a problem in ownership of the private streets since someone has to own them. Planning Director stated that the private streets could be owned by the people individually by easements. There being no further appearances, Vice-Chairman closed the hearing. M/S/C (Olsen/Edgmon; Hough/Neel abstained; Lapham absent) continuing the application to December 9 for further review. PUBLIC COMMENTS - None. MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS TIME EXTENSION - TTM 19447. Request by SANBORN/WEBB ENGINEERING for Tim Binder for a twelve-month time extension for a 1 lot subdivision to create a 40 unit residential condominium complex on N. Indian Avenue east of Zanjero Road, north of Racquet Club Road, R-2 Zone, Section 3. M/S/C (Olsen/Neel; Lapham absent) approving a twelve-month time extension for TTM 19447 subject to all original conditions of approval . (New expiration date will be December 21, 1988. ) CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS. Update of City Council actions. CASE 3.0272 (Voss Investments) . Appeal was heard by the Council and case was approved; applicants are discussing withdrawing and redesigning the project since it is controversial and over budget. Project will be reviewed later by the Commission. - CASE 5.0344-PD-164 (Convention Center) . Tours will be conducted through the convention center around December 15 and Commission will be invited. There will be a nationally televised New Year' s Eve Party, on December 31. November 25, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 10 PUBLIC HEARINGS Continued) CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS. (Continued) Commissioner Curtis stated that the high school rented the Convention Center for its 50th year reunion and later was told that they could not have the facility because of an series of IBM conferences. Planning Director stated that negotiations are underway regarding this, and that Council may decide to form a Convention Center Commission, although it is not required to by law. CASE 5.0453-PD-192. Commissioner Whitney asked if a retention pond next to commercial or residential development were unusual . Planning Director stated that it should not be a problem. CASE 3.758-Dead Palm Trees ' . Planning Director stated that the applicants are waiting until electrical lines are undergrounded before replacing the eight dead palm trees. - AWNING MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. Commissioner Edgmon stated that a maintenance and placement program should be developed for awnings through the ordinance if necessary. Commissioner Whitney stated the best solution would be not to approve any more. Planning Director stated that was the approach for many years but awnings are popular with pedestrians, are liked by people, and are an architectural bandage. COMMISSION/STAFF REPORTS OR REQUESTS. See above. ADDED STARTERS. (Determination of eligibility for consideration. ) None. ADJOURNMENT There being no further business to discuss, Vice-Chairman adjourned the meeting at 3 p.m. 1 PLANNING DIRECTOR MDR/ml PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGMINUTES j Council Chamber, City Hall December 9, 1987 1:30 P.M. F-Y 1987 - 1988 Present Excused Absences ROLL CALL Present to Date to date This Meeting I Plannin4 Commission 9 0 Larry Lapham, Chairman X 10 2 Hugh Curtis X 8 1 Martha Edgmon X 9 1 Brent Hough X 9 1 Earl Neel X 9 2 Gary Olsen X 8 Barbara Whitney Staff_ Present Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director oos, Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney Douglas Evans, Planner Richard Patenaude, Planner Margo Williams, Planner Carol Vankeeken, Planner John Terell , Redevelopment Planner Dave Forcucci , Zoning Enforcement Jerry Gonzalez, Traffic Engineer Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary Architectural Advisor Committee - December 7, 1987 Chris Mills, Chairman Absent: Mike Barbarraa WhitneyWio Tom DOcz* Gary Olsen Martha Edgmon, Alternate Brent Hough William Johnson Will Kleindienst Chairman called the meeting to order*at 1:30*P•m• M/S/C (Edgmon/Neel) approving minutes of November 25, 1987 as submitted.