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Council Chamber, City Hall
THURSDAY, November 12, 1987
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1987 - 1988
Present Present E xcused:Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to date
Larry Lapham, Chairman X 8 0
Hugh Curtis X 8 0
Martha Edgmon - 6 2
Brent Hough X 7 1
Earl Neel X 7 1
Gary Olsen X 7 1
Barbara Whitney X 6 2
Staff Present
Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director
Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney
Richard Patenaude, Planner
Margo Williams, Planner
Carol Vankeeken, Planner
Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee - November 9, 1987
Chris Mills, Chairman Absent: Barbara Whitney
Mike Buccino Martha Edgmon, Alternate
Tom Doczi Gary Olsen, Alternate
Brent Hough
William Johnson
Will Kleindienst
j Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
M/S/C (Curtis/Neel; Edgmon absent) approving minutes of October 28 as submitted.
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CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
M/S/C (Curtis/Hough; Edgmon absent) taking the following actions:
CASE 5.0424-CUP (Continued) . Application by MARRIOTT CORPORATION for architec-
tural approval of revised detail landscape, irrigation, and exterior
lighting plans and a main identification sign for a 149 unit hotel on the
east side of Hermosa Drive between Tahquitz Way/Andreas Drive, R-4-VP, C-1-
AA Zones (I .L. ), Section 14.
Restudy noting the following: That the Tahquitz frontage and all entires
be enhanced.
CASE 3.0085. Application by MARK BLAICH CONSTRUCTION for architectural approval
of final landscape plans and building colors for a four-unit apartment
building at Junipero Road/San Marco, R-2 Zone, Section 3.
Restudy.
CASE 3.0237. Application by VITO DI STEFANO for architectural approval of
revised elevations for a two unit apartment at 1340 Camino Amapola between
�.. Thornhill Road/Calle Amigo, R-2 Zone, Section 23.
Approved subject to the following conditions:
1. That the hip roof be closed.
2. That final landscape, lighting, and irrigation be submitted.
CASE 3.0277. Application by SCOTT DORIUS for architectural approval of revised
plans for a mini-storage building on Gene Autry Trail/E. Palm Canyon Drive,
M-1 Zone (I .L. ), Section 20.
Continued to November 25, 1987.
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CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
CASE 3.0315 (MINOR) . Application by SCOTT JOHNSON for architectural approval of
an awning for a business a 255 S. Palm Canyon Drive, C-B-D Zone, Section
15.
Restudy noting;
1. That the awning be wedged to match roof line.
2. Whole building frontage to be done with awnings.
CASE 7.679. Application by WILLIAM GILLESPIE for architectural approval of
revised entrance gate and block wall at 2415 Araby Drive, R-1-B Zone,
Section 25.
Approved subject to the following condition: That the gray color is
approved; noting that dark gray only on the main door.
CASE 3.785. Application by RICHARD EHRLICH for architectural approval of entry
gates for 134-unit apartment project located between E. Palm Canyon
Drive/Avery/Compadre, R-3 Zone, Section 24.
Restudy noting the following:
1. That the masonry walls be deleted.
2. That the gates have all radiused and tubular elements.
3. That a minimum of three (3) horizontal bars before the vertical
pickets be required.
4. That the stationary panels to be freestanding.
5. That the parking space adjacent to the gate be landscaped.
CASE 3.0209. Application by JOHN STANFORD for Mark Benedetti for architectural
approval of final landscape plans for a single family residence on E1
Camino Way between Mesa/Crestview Terrace, R-1-C Zone, Section 27.
Approved subject to the following conditions: That the landscape plan for
the naturalized areas be reviewed by staff.
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ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
CASE 3.0287. Application by JIMSAIR AVIATION SERVICES for architectural approval
o sign for Jimsair/JB's Deli, 1457 Gene Autry Trail, A Zone, Section 18.
Planning Director stated that at the time of the approval of the
Conditional Use Permit for Jimsair a condition was that there be no addi-
tional freestanding signs on Gene Autry Trail and that staff recommends
that the sign be placed on the wall of the building, but that the the
applicants are requesting an 8 foot high steel frame painted sign on Gene
Autry and that the AAC recommended approval . He stated that it looks as
though a wall were removed so there would be a clear view of the sign.
Mike Brill , Jimsair, 145 S. Gene Autry, stated that there had never been a
wall in the location described by the Planning Director.
Commissioner Curtis questioned the reason for the applicant to apply for a
sign since it should not be there.
Mr. Brill, Jimsair, stated that the standard gas rate sign was placed
between the concrete pillars so that the gas station could be seen; that
accidents have occurred because the gas station was not visible; that the
sign is not aesthetic on the building; and that it is set back.
Commissioner Curtis remarked that it might fit in any other location; that
many businesses have an identification problem; that the Commission did not
know there would be a gas station at the location at the time of the CUP
approval ; and that the Commission tries to keep the signs clean in
appearance.
Mr. Brill stated that a monument sign on Gene Autry would be acceptable,
but would be a violation of the original caveat.
Planning Director explained that the only way this sign could be approved
is to remove the sign on the front of the building; that the Council is
interested in the sign; and that the condition for no additional signage
may have come from the Council.
Commissioner Curtis stated that perhaps there should be a sign in the
interest of safety and another application should be made. He stated that
the sign ordinance has to be upheld.
M/S/C (Curtis/Whitney; Edgmon absent) for a restudy of the sign noting that
it is not legal unless the sign on the building is removed.
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ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
CASE 3.0204 (MINOR)/3.343. Application by ROBERT CHEROSKE for architectural
approval of existing building color for single family, hillside residence
at 575 N. Patencio, R-1-A Zone, Section 10.
Planning Director explained that the color painted on the building is not
the darker color approved by the Commission; that the AAC recommended that
the darker color be repainted on the building; and that the project archi-
tect thinks that the color on the building was approved as does the
painter.
John Walling, project architect, 45260 Club Drive, Indian Wells, stated
that the color on the building is the color that was approved and that the
photos may not have true color.
Commission reviewed the photos at the board.
Mr. Walling stated that the applicant feels that the color is what was
approved and does not want to pay for another $6,000 paint job.
Chairman requested clarification in the difference in opinion between staff
and the applicant on the color approval.
Assistant City Attorney stated that if the color were approved as it is on
the building, the owner has a vested right to that color and is entitled to
it.
Planning Director stated that he did not have an opinion on the color; that
the case planner indicated that the color is lighter than approved, as did
the AAC; that the painter may be correct, but a color chip of the paint was
never submitted; but the file contains a color sample on plaster and the
color on the sample was not approved. He stated that the darker color
swatch painted on the building was approved as shown on photographs on
file.
Commissioner Whitney stated that she remembered samples and had voted
against all the gray colors submitted.
Planning Director showed the paint color samples and stated that the ones
with the X's marked on them were the colors submitted not those approved.
Mr. Walling suggested that one of the X'ed samples was probably the
approved color.
Planning Director stated that one of the X'ed colors matched what was on
the building.
Kip Lyons, attorney, 801 Tahquitz, representing Harold Matzner, a neighbor,
stated that the Matzners object to the lighter gray color which does not
blend with the hillside; that the previous owner had signed an agreement
with the Matzners that the two houses would be compatible and blend into
the hillside; that the agreement provisions relate mainly to the wall,
which were to have been painted gray, and suggested that the application be
°.. continued for discussion between the two neighbors and a possible com-
promise. He stated that the City would probably not be part of the action.
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ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
CASE 3.0204 (MINOR)/3.343. (Continued)
Chairman suggested that the applicant not waste time with a discussion of
the paint with the neighbors since the color scheme has to be approved by
the Commission and that there is not an approved color on the building.
M/S/C (Curtis/Olsen; Edgmon absent) for a restudy of the color of the
residence.
CASE 3.0236. Application by MIKE PIO for architectural approval of revised
elevations for warehouse/office building on Valdivia Way/Tachevah/LaCapana,
M-1-P Zone, Section 7.
Planning Director stated that the AAC recommended approval of the curvi-
lineal design, but that the Commission action was for a restudy .
of the long curved wall; and that the applicant revised the design and the
AAC had not seen it. He stated that the new design introduces a planter
wall which continues the masonry in the front to maintain the curved
element; and that a stronger form would be better rather than just
mirroring the metal and the design could be resolved with staff.
Chairman commented that design is an improvement; that more contrast in the
curvilineal line would be better and would solve design problems.
M/S/C (Whitney/Neel; Edgmon absent) approving the revised application
subject to the following condition: That the planter wall design be
resolved at staff level.
CASE 5.0400-ZTA (Continued) . Initiation by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS for
revisions to the Interim Zoning Ordinance (all sections) and adoption of
said ordinance as final .
(Environmental assessment/Initial Study has been previously considered and
a Negative Declaration has been filed. )
Recommendation: That the Commission approve ZTA revisions (Case 5.0400).
Planning Director stated that the Chairman of the Tribal Council was
present.
Planner (Patenaude) summarized the amendment to the Zoning Ordinance and
stated that an item not included in the packet is a prohibition of mini-
warehouses on scenic corridors unless approved under a CUP application.
Chairman stated that the mini-warehouses would be prohibited along Ramon,
Gene Autry, Vista Chino and Farrell - everywhere where there is industrial
zoning; but Planning Director stated that the change is only along major
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
CASE 5.0400-ZTA (Continued)
thoroughfares and that the Commission can, for example, prohibit a mini-
warehouse on the parcel next to the waterpark. He stated that uses such
as auto repair shops probably should not be on scenic corridors.
Assistant City Attorney explained that when the use is subject to a CUP the
Commission has the power to deny the use at the location in question as
well as condition the use. He stated that scenic corridors have unique
properties and special consideration is warranted.
Planning Director stated that the Commission could send the Zoning Text
revision to Council with a directive to staff to analyze the uses of mini-
warehouses on scenic corridors and to develop streetscapes. He stated that
the Council has asked for a streetscape on Ramon as well.
Chairman directed staff to use its own judgement on conditions on mini-
warehouses and factories along City corridors.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
Richard Milanovich, Tribal Council chairman, stated that the Tribal Council
has commended the updating of the zoning text and concurs in general and
has recommended appendices to the ordinance, i.e. , the Tribal Council
appeal ordinance of December 12, 1978; Agreement 1324, between the Tribal
Council and Council of July 26, 1977 and Supplemental Agreement No. 1 of
March 28, 1978 addressing established current procedures rule and regula-
tions for processing land use matters regarding Indian land; and Ordinance
1287 of July 15, 1987 identifying the separate and specific regulations for
the use and the development of Indian Trust Land.
He explained that the Tribal Council recommends the appendices so that a
developer can easily find Tribal Council recommendations in the ordinance.
Chairman commented that most of the recommendations with the exception of
density is policy.
There being no further appearances, Chairman declared the hearing closed.
Planning Director stated that staff concurred with the request of the
Tribal Council. He further explained that the progress of the mini-
warehouse ordinance depends on the Commission motion and that the zoning
text amendments could be passed on to the Council with the M-1 conditions
reviewed by the Commission at the November 25 meeting, and that the condi-
tions would be a mechanism to protect scenic corridors along M-1 Zone
routes. He stated also that water course zoning has been changed to
reflect FEMA recommendations.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
CASE 5.0400-ZTA (Continued)
M/S/C (Neel/Olsen; Edgmon absent) approving revisions to Zoning Text Amend-
ment 5.0400 subject to the following condition: That the M-1 Zoning pro-
visions be developed by staff for properties along scenic corridors and
reviewed at the November 25 meeting of the Planning Commission.
TRIBAL COUNCIL COMMENTS
The Tribal Council 's comments on previous drafts of the Revised Zoning
Ordinance are contained in the enclosed copy of memorandum dated April 7,
1987 from the Tribal Planning Consultant to the City Council and City
Planning Commission.
The Tribal Council Chairman and the Tribal Planning Consultant will address
the Interim Zoning Ordinance, including revisions, and Ordinance No. 1287
at the Planning Commission's public hearing on November 12, 1987.
All other uses and matters on the City Planning Commission agenda of
November 12, 1987, were noted since such matters do not materially affect
Indian Trust Lands.
ITEM NO. 1, CASE 5.0400-ZTA (Tribal Council Comments of April 7, 1987. )
In a previous memoranda to the City Planning Commission, the Tribal Council
has commended the Commission and Planning Staff for their efforts to update
the City's Zoning Ordinance by "streamlining the contents, correcting
�--' errors and bringing the Ordinance into conformance with current operational
policies and procedures". With certain reservations and exceptions, the
Tribal Council has concurred in general with the proposed revisions con-
tained in the various drafts of the Zoning Ordinance received over the past
several months.
After consideration of the recommendations of the Indian Planning
Commission, the Tribal Council took the following actions with respect to
the following drafts of the Revised Zoning Ordinance:
CHAPTER 91 - INTRODUCTION AND DEFINITIONS Rev: 3-13-87
1. Found that the revisions make specific reference to Indian Land in
the preamble, and notes that new provisions are being adopted which
apply only to Indian Lands with respect to identification, regula-
tion, development, etc. of these lands. These revisions are con-
sistent with the purpose of Ordinance No. 779 of the City of Palm
Springs adopted March 13, 1967, and known as the "The Joint Planning
Procedure Ordinance" and with earlier agreement between the Tribal
Council and City Council (Agreement No. 1324 dated July 26, 19877,
and Supplement Agreement No. 1 thereto dated March 28, 1978).
2. Concurred with the proposed revisions to zoning designations and to
procedures related to processing amendments to the zoning map,
handling of violations, penalties, etc.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
CASE 5.0400-ZTA (Continued)
CHAPTER 92 - ZONING REGULATIONS Rev: 3-6-87
1. Residential Zones
Concurred with the proposals to combine the single-family zones and
to combine the garden apartments zones, standardize parking require-
ments, add and delete uses permitted by the right of zone, condi-
tional use permits or land use by the right of zone, conditional use
permits or land use permits, modify development standards, and
eliminate redundancy.
2. Commercial Zones
Concurred with the proposals to add and delete uses permitted by
right of zone, conditional use permits or land use permits and to
simplify development and performance standards.
3. Manufacturing/Industrial Zones
a. Concurred with the proposals to add and delete uses permitted
by the right of zone, conditional use permits or land use
permits, delete redundancy and simplify performance standards.
b. Disagreed with proposed Property Development Standards which
increase lot acres, lot widths and depths, setbacks, landscape
buffers, etc. As noted previously, these standards appear to
be arbitrary and very restrictive when compared with those in
other communities that are currently experiencing significant
growth in quality industrial/business parks, and may not be
attuned to the current market for industrial properties.
C. Seriously questioned if the proposed statement that "These
standards (Property Development Standards) may be altered where
a specific development plan is approved under a Planned
Development of a Conditional Use Permit or otherwise approved
Master Plan of development where the development meets the
intent of this Ordinance" will mitigate the possible detriment
created by these standards with respect to the City's ability
to attract the types of industries that contribute signifi-
cantly to job opportunities and economic stabilization within a
community.
4. "A", "Nil, "W", "Oil, 'IV-Rill) "CC", "H" and "R" Zones.
Concurred with the proposals to combine certain zones, modify
development standards, and add and delete uses permitted by right of
zone or Conditional Use Permit.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
CASE 5.0400-ZTA (Continued)
CHAPTER 93 - GENERAL CONDITIONS Rev: 5-8-88
Concurred with the proposals to modify development standards, delete
redundance and simplify procedures.
CHAPTER 94 - PROCEDURE Rev: 5-8-86
1. Concurred with proposals to simplify and eliminate redundacy in
certain procedures.
2. As expressed in previous memoranda, the Tribal Council feels very
strongly that the following Ordinances and Agreements be included in
Chapter 94 as separate and distinct sections:
a. Ordinance No. 5 of the Agua Caliente Band of Cahuilla adopted
December 12, 1978, and known as "The Tribal Appeal Ordinance".
b. Agreement No. 1324 between the Tribal Council and City Council
dated July 26, 1977, including Supplement Agreement No. 1
thereto dated March 28, 1978, which established current proce-
dures, rules and regulations for processing land use matters
involving Indian Land.
C. An updated edition of Ordinance No. 779 of the City of Palm
Springs adopted March 13, 1967, and known as "The Joint
Planning Procedure Ordinance".
A draft of such an Ordinance prepared by Planning Staff and
dated January 5, 1987 is being reviewed by the Tribal Planning
Consultant. While this draft attempts to clarify and eliminate
redundancy in the current Ordinance, it proposes certain
revisions to Performance and Development Standards, i.e. ,
reduction in density for apartments and dwelling units,
setbacks, etc. , which could significantly impact the develop-
ment of Indian Land. The Tribal Council will respond to this
draft after further review and recommendations by the Indian
Planning Commission and Tribal Planning Consultant.
The Tribal Council appreciates the time and effort that the
Commission and Planning Staff have spent on this matter. It is
not the intent of the Tribal Council to delay the processing of
this revised Zoning Ordinance and would suggest that the
Commission may wish to forward this matter to the City Council
for its review pending further consideration by the Commission
with respect to the concerns which have been expressed by the
Tribal Council.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0451-CUP (REF. CASE 3.0260) Continued. Application by LASZLO SANDOR for
Harold Matzner for a conditional use permit to allow construction of a
tennis court with substandard setbacks on Crescent Drive/Patencio Road, R-
1-A Zone, Section 10.
(This action is categorically exempt from environmental assessment per CEQA
guidelines. )
Recommendation: That the Commission continue the application to November
25.
Planning Director stated that no revised plans have been submitted.
Chairman declared the hearing open; there being no appearances the hearing
was closed.
M/S/C (Curtis/Hough; Edgmon absent) continuing the application to November
25, 1987.
TPM 22406 (Continued) . Application by HACKER ENGINEERING COMPANY, INC. for John
Rocca for a tentative parcel map to subdivide property into thirteen lots
for residential purposes at Morongo Trail/Araby Drive, R-1-B Zone, Section
25.
(Commission response to written comments on Draft Negative Declaration;
action; no comments received. )
Recommendation: That the Commission continued the application to November
25.
Planning Director stated that the AAC requested preliminary landscaping
plans and CC&R provisions, which have not been submitted by the applicant.
Chairman declared the hearing open; there being no appearances, the hearing
was closed.
M/S/C (Olsen/Curtis; Edgmon absent; Hough/Neel abstained) continuing the
application to November 25, 1987.
CASE 5.0453-PD-192. Application by BOGIE ROAD DEVELOPMENT for a planned develop-
ment district to allow construction of a commercial development, multi-
family residential apartments and office complex at the southeast corner of
Gene Autry Trail/Vista Chino, M-1-P/W-M-1-P Zones, Section 7.
(Commission response to written comments on Draft Negative Declaration; no
comments received; no comments received; action. )
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0453-PD-192. (Continued)
Planner (Williams) stated that the project is one of regional significance
and requires review at State level ; that the Environmental Assessment has
been sent to affected agencies and a 30-day review period is necessary to
receive comments from the agencies; that the sewer study has been accepted
with construction of a parallel line of increased size as a mitigative
measure; that the fringe-toed lizard conservation plan is to be
implemented; that elevations and pads above the 100 year flood plain are
required; and that mitigative measures to handle increased traffic such as
widening of Vista Chino at some points and traffic signals are also
required. She stated that the project does not integrate well with the
East Areas Specific Plan which envisions hotels and golf courses in the
area. She described the project on the display board and stated that the
AAC recommended approval with the following conditions:
1. That the major travel way (internal) in the residential section be
defined through pavement pattern or some other methods.
2. That the secondary access to the residential be better developed.
3. That the secondary access on the commercial portion be better
developed as a main entry feature with landscaped median during Phase
IV.
She recommended continuance pending review of environmental documents and
preparation of a General Plan Amendment.
Commissioner Hough commented that the project does not integrate well with
the East Area Specific Plan, and the configuration of the residences and
industrial areas should be reversed.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
Jim Prock, Bogie Road Development, 5962 La Place Court, Carlsbad,
California, stated that the business park idea originally submitted was no
longer viable and that housing needs have been addressed and that all
recommendations could be accommodated by working with staff. He stated
that the mixed use of residential and commercial is the most viable,
supported by the AAC, and the project is internally self-supporting to an
extent in its relationship between uses, and that the housing meets the
needs of the community.
Bob Reinan, ASL Engineers, 2045 Tahquitz-McCallum, stated that the applica-
tion has been in the process for some time and that now integration is a
concern. He stated that the applicants think the plan is compatible with
the East Area Specific Plan that a levy at the Whitewater River from
Sunrise extension to Ramon would protect property in the flood zone east of
the City, that the client wants to participate in the assessment; and that
the site plan is dedicated to handling unknown water in unknown amounts of
time for safe development, but that staff is recommending a continuance.
He stated that the continuance is understandable, but that in light of the
ill-defined future of the area east of Gene Autry Trail, the General Plan
study should indicate what uses will be on the site (such as more
residential). He stated that the sewer line is to be a parallel line and
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0453-PD-192. (Continued)
has been approved by the City Engineer and that there is a discrepancy
between the staff report and the environmental assessment regarding traffic
with a condition in the Environmental Assessment the more reasonable, and
that this probably could be resolved with staff. He requested that the
secondary access to commercial uses remain for service vehicles and that
Phase I (the commercial phase) was designed as the easiest to approve and
build in light of the rest of the environment, although it is unknown until
the City finishes the East Area Plan. He stated that the clients are not
upset about no industrial uses in the area, but no one can predict the
future and that a golf course and office accommodation might be considered.
He requested that the project be placed on the Planning Commission study
session of November 18 for more direction from the Commission.
Commissioner Olsen suggested right turn and out only on the secondary
access road into the residential area to eliminate a bottleneck.
Commissioner Hough stated that the secondary road should have gate controls
to reduce its use.
Planner stated that the right turn in and out only were not cited as a
problem, and that the main entrance is aligned with Executive Drive, and
there was no comment on the intersection by Traffic Engineering.
Chairman stated that it will be reviewed in the light of the East Area Plan
at the study session.
There being not further appearance the hearing was closed.
M/S/C (Neel/Hough; Edgmon absent) continuing the application to November
25, 1987, with review at a Planning Commission study session on November 18
at 3 p.m.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - Three Minute Time Limit.
None.
ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT ACTION AGENDA (Continued)
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
CASE 3.0311 (MINOR). Application by JAMACIA HOTEL for architectural approval of
repaint of exterior and revised landscape plan for hotel at 424 E. Palm
Canyon Drive, R-3 Zone, Section 23.
Nathan Miller, of the Jamacia Hotel, 424 E. Palm Canyon Drive, stated that
the building was painted because its original beige color was drab; that
the small hotel is not noticeable; that the doors on the hotel were blue
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ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT ACTION AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.0311 (MINOR). (Continued)
originally; that the roof is white, and that a brighter blue was used to
make the building more attractive.
Commissioner Curtis suggested that the applicant discuss the colors with
staff and submit a color board for review.
Mr. Miller asked if the opposition from the Commission was to the trim or
to the white.
Planner stated that the AAC recommended a blanket restudy.
M/S/C (Olsen/Curtis; Edgmon absent) for a restudy and direction to the
applicant to discuss colors with staff.
CASE 3.0314 (MINOR) . Application by TEES ARE US for architectural approval of
sliding door to front of building at 324 N. Palm Canyon Drive, C-B-D Zone,
Section 15.
Planner (Williams) stated that the applicant installed glass sliding doors
without permit because he felt that people were not seeing his business;
but that the doors do not fit the opening, and the AAC recommended a
restudy. She stated that the applicant was not present.
M/S/C (Curtis/Neel; Edgmon absent) for a restudy noting the following:
1. That the frame be natural aluminum -finish to match existing store-
front.
2. That the door be full height (no transom) .
3. That the door match the frame opening (no wood frames for fill in).
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
CASE 3.0297 (MINOR) . Application by MIKE BRUCE for Bob's Big Boy for recon-
sideration of restudy for awning program on remodel of restaurant at 1901
E. Palm Canyon, R-3 Zone, Section 24.
Planner (Williams) stated that the applicant is dealing with an inflexible
corporation design is requesting reconsideration of the overall design, and
that the awning was recommended for denial by the AAC as not enhancing the
building.
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ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Continued)
CASE 3.0297 (MINOR). (Continued)
She stated that AAC member Mills felt the design could be acceptable with a
different shape and a different attachment at the building. She described
the revisions at the board.
Kyle Bodahine, Town and Country, Orange, California, stated that the awning
program will be eliminated and the other improvements recommended by the
AAC will be done.
M/S/C (Curtis/Hough; Edgmon absent) taking the following actions:
1. That the awning is denied.
2. That the remainder of the improvements are approved subject to the
following conditions:
a. deleting the light fixtures is acceptable.
b. That the paint colors match existing colors.
C. That the T-111 siding is acceptable.
d. That the beams be tail cut at least 4" - 6" trimmed with copper
or painted metal to match; metal to have a hemmed edge.
CASE 3.702. Application by Kaptur & CIOFFI for Perri-Mel 1 for architectural
approval of balcony drainage detail and screening for fluorescent fixtures
for a 118 unit condominium project on Avenida Caballeros between Arenas
Road/Saturmino Road, R-4 Zone (I.L. ) , Section 14.
Planner (Williams) stated that at final inspection there was concern about
balcony drainage details and lighting fixtures in the carports. She stated
that the detail was not on the plans and poor installation and design
resulted in a request by the architect for Commission review; and the AAC
recommended that the workmanship be improved. She stated that the project
is in bankruptcy, that the bank will make the repairs, that the fluorescent
fixtures with colored tubes have been placed on the carport; and that two
AAC members reviewed the fixtures in the field and two did not, and that
AAC member Kleindienst felt that the fixtures were poorly designed. She
stated that the light source can be seen.
Commissioner Hough explained that he did not review the fixtures at night
but that they are not attractive and he did not feel that the colored
florescent tubes would help.
Commissioner Curtis stated that the colors should be diffused.
Commissioner Hough remarked that the tubes are already installed.
M/S/C (Whitney/Hough; Edgmon absent; Olsen/Lapham abstained) approving the
scu rs with the workmanship to be improved to the satisfaction of the
arc�� ect, and a restudy of the fixtures with a different fixture recom-
mended or a light shield provided.
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ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Continued)
CASE 3.0193/TPM 21832. Application by JAMES CIOFFI for James Shigur for archi-
tectural approval of medical complex on Tachevah between N. Palm Canyon
Dr./N. Indian Avenue. , C-1 Zone, Section 10.
(Commission response to written comments on draft Negative Declaration;
action on environmental assessment only. )
Planning Director stated that the item was on a July agenda and restudied
and no reference to the environment assessment was noted on the agenda
after the restudy. He stated that the accompanying parcel map will be
scheduled for public hearing.
M/S/C (Curtis/Neel; Olsen/Lapham abstained; Edgmon absent) ordering the
filing of a Negative Declaration.
Commissioner Curtis left.
CASE 3.0052 (MINOR) . Requests by PARKS, RECREATION AND LIBRARY DEPARTMENT STAFF
for Commission consideration of 30 foot high parking lot fixtures for
Desert Highland Park on Tramview Road, 0 Zone, Section 34.
Planning Director stated that the community center is being expanded at
Desert Highland Park and the Parks Department is requesting parking lot
lights at a 30 foot height (18 ft. is maximum in their zone). He stated
that the department does not have enough money in the Grant to increase the
number of lights if they are at an 18 ft. height, that the standards are
far away from residences, and the circumstances are unusual resulting in a
request for the 30 ft. height.
M/S/C (Olsen/Neel ; Edgmon/Curtis absent) approving 30 ft. high parking lot
fixtures for Desert Highland Park.
CASE 3.0318 (MINOR) . Application by EXPRESS GAS for architectural approval of
revised building color and sign for service station at 2901 N. Palm Canyon,
U-R Zone, Section 3.
Planner (Williams) stated that the applicant is requesting a monument sign
and has already painted the building with white, red, and yellow on the
fascia, and that the applicant is not present.
M/S/C (Neel/Olsen; Edgmon/Curtis absent) for a restudy noting the
following:
1. That the building be sandblasted back to original color.
2. That the paint colors are not acceptable.
3. That sign design and colors be restudied.
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ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Continued)
4. That blocks on the monument match existing.
5. That a trash enclosure be provided per City Standards.
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Continued)
CASE 3.0305 (REF. CASE 5.0438-MISC. ). Initiation by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS a
revised parking and access plan for Palm Springs Regional Airport, A Zone,
Section 18.
(Commission response to written comments on Draft Negative Declaration; no
comments received; action. )
Planning Director stated that although the project could be exempt from
environmental assessment, the Federal Government requires more complete
environmental action.
M/S/C (Hough/Olsen; Edgmon/Curtis absent) ordering the filing of a negative
declaration for Case 3.0305.
CASE 5.0414-CUP. Request by ROBBIE REEDS RESTAURANT for Commission allowance of
driveway connection to Avenida Ortega from parking lot of restaurant at 500
E. Palm Canyon Drive, R-3 Zone, Section 23.
Planner (Vankeeken) presented the request stating that the access may
require a public hearing.
Planning Director stated that a condition of approval for the CUP for the
restaurant was that there be no access to Avenida Ortega and allowing it
without public hearing would be questionable. He stated that staff
recommends that the access remain closed.
Chairman stated that the neighborhood should not be impacted by opening the
access.
M/S/C (Neel/Hough; Curtis/Edgmon absent) denying the request for a driveway
connection to Avenida Ortega.
CLARIFICATION. Request by staff for Planning Commission clarification of Sign
Ordinance provisions relating to small day care operations, citywide.
Planning Director stated that the City has allowed small daycare centers to
operate in residential areas under a Land Use Permit but without signing,
but that he had received a request from an operator of a four-student
center in a home to allow signing, and if the center were expanded an
application would be submitted for a PD or a CUP. He stated that the
Commission should clarify that a small day care center (under 12 children)
should be considered a home occupation and not allowed signing, and signing
should be allowed, in centers of more than 12 children.
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MISCELLANEOUS ITMES (Continued)
CLARIFICATION. (Continued)
M/S/C (Olsen/Hough; Curtis/Edgmon absent) that no signing be allowed in
residential areas for day care centers with less than 12 children.
CASE 85.136. Request by JOE HENDERSON for a lot line adjustment/certificate of
compliance for property on Smokewood Avenue, R-1-C Zone, Section 25.
Joe Henderson, property owner, explained that the diagonal line on the map
is the new lot line proposal and the lot line will legitimize the trian-
gular piece in the back of the property.
M/S/C (Curtis/Neel; Edgmon absent) approving lot line adjustment/
Certificate of Compliance Case 85.136.
CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS. Update of City Council actions.
Council Retreat. October 30 at the Pavilion. AAC exercise was held with
an actual case submitted to the Planning Division as an example. The
exercise was effective, buzz words were used and glossary of terms was
developed. Honesty with applicants from the beginning was discussed.
Sometimes terms are misinterpreted. Number rating system was suggested by
an architect but is difficult to use because the ratings have to be inter-
preted. Staff told Council that options would be explored. System has
undergone constant changes since its conception. There is a concern
because of the layout of the dais area of the Council Chambers, but the
subfloor is concrete and difficult to change. There may be a need for a
larger Council Chamber in the future since 40% of the Council meetings are
standing room only. Perhaps an AAC format of working around a table should
be tried. Chairman stated that there was not enough room in the Large
Conference Room and transferring plans is difficult, but could be done to
make the system work more effectively. AAC in the past reviewed items
before they were on the Planning Commission agenda. The information given
to applicants depends on the personnel on the AAC. Some members in the
past have been blunt in there directness and today more directness is
needed. Numbering system is difficult to administer.
Planning Director stated that a numbering system allows strange combin-
ations on projects and is subjective. Perhaps role playing should be tried
to talk about the issues of honesty in regard to Community consensus, for
example, good architecture but not good for the community.
PC Study Session. November 18. One of the agenda items will be the City
Manager's review of status of the City's budget.
Tribal Council Comments on Zoning Text Amendment. Planning Director stated
that the Tribal Council upheld all revisions in the ordinance. Chairman
stated that discussion with the Tribal Council in its chambers about the changes was helpful, that the City received cooperation, and that the
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MISCELLANEOUS ITMES (Continued)
current Chairman is very good. Planning Director stated that the Tribal
Council originally wanted all Tribal Council agreements in the Ordinance
but now recommends placing them as appendices.
COMMISSION/STAFF REPORTS OR REQUESTS. No report was given.
ADDED STARTERS. (Determination of eligibility for consideration. ) None.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Chairman adjourned the meeting
at 4:00 p.m.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
Council Chamber, City Hall
November 25, 1987
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1987 - 1988
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to date
Larry Lapham, Chairman - 8 1
Hugh Curtis X 9 0
Martha Edgmon X 7 2
Brent Hough X 8 1
Earl Neel X 8 1
Gary Olsen X 3 1
Barbara Whitney X 7 2
Staff Present
Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director
Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney
Richard Patenaude, Planner
Margo Williams, Planner
Carol Vankeeken, Planner
Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee - November 23, 1987
Chris Mills, Chairman Absent: Mike Buccino
• Martha Edgmon Barbara Whitney
William Johnson Brent Hough, alternate
Will Kleindienst Gary Olsen, alternate
Tom Doczi
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
M/S/C (Neel/Hough; Lapham absent) approving minutes of November 12, 1987 as
submitted.
There were no Tribal Council comments.
ADMINISTRATIVE NOTE
Chairman Lapham was absent; Vice-Chairman Curtis presided.
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