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Council Chamber, City Hall
October 28, 1987
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1987 - 1988
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to date
Larry Lapham, Chairman X 7 0
Hugh Curtis X 7 0
Martha Edgmon X 6 1
Brent Hough X 6 1
Earl Neel X 6 1
Gary Olsen - 6 1
Barbara Whitney - 5 2
Staff Present
Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director
Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney
Douglas Evans, Planner
Richard Patenaude, Planner
Margo Williams, Planner
Carol Vankeeken, Planner
Dave Forcucci, Zoning Enforcement
Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee - October 26, 1987
Mike Buccino Absent: Barbara Whitney
Tom Doczi Brent Hough
Martha Edgmon, Alternate Chris Mills, Chairman
William Johnson
Will Kleindienst
Gary Olsen
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
M/S/C (Curtis/Neel ; Whitney/Olsen absent) approving minutes of October 14 as sub-
mitted.
There were no Tribal Council comments.
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CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
M/S/C (Edgmon/Neel; Olsen/Whitney absent) taking the following actions:
CASE 5.0275-PD-147' (CONTINUED). Application by EDWARD DEBARTOLO CORPORATION
for architectural approval of revised landscaping for Desert Fashion
Plaza on N. Palm Canyon Drive between Amado Road/Tahquitz Way, CBD
Zone, Section 15.
Removed from the agenda for submittal of new landscape plans.
SIGN APPLICATION. Application by the TROPICS HOTEL for architectural approval
of two main identification signs for hotel at 411 East Palm Canyon
Drive, R-3 Zone, 26 Section.
Restudy noting the following:
1. That there be a more substantial base.
2. That there is too much plastic.
3. That any plastic should be a matte finish.
4. That letter and background colors be reversed.
SIGN APPLICATION. Application by BILL HOWLETT for architectural approval of
gas rate sign for the Chevron Service Station at South Indian Avenue/
Ramon Road, C-2 Zone (I.L. ) , Section 14.
Approved subject to the following conditions:
1. Cabinet shall rise above monument (minimum 4") .
2. That the corners of the cabinet have a radius.
3. Insert details to match existing.
CASE 3.0287. Application by JIMSAIR AVIATION SERVICES for architectural
approval of sign for Jimsair/JB's Deli, 145 S. Gene Autry Trail, A Zone,
Section 8.
Continued to November 12.
CASE 5.0424-CUP (Continued) . Application by MARRIOTT CORPORATION for
architectural approval of revised detailed landscape, irrigation, and
exterior lighting plans and a main identification sign for a 149 unit
hotel on the east side of Hermosa Drive between Tahquitz Way/Andreas
Drive, R-4-VP/C-1-AA Zones (I.L. ) , Section 14.
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CONSENT ACTION AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 5.0424-CUP. (Continued)
Continued to November 12.
CASE 7.679. Application by WILLIAM GILLESPIE for architectural approval of
entrance gate in block wall at 2415 Araby Drive, R-1-B Zone, Section 25.
Restudy noting the following;
1. That the wall height be equal on each side of the entry gate.
2. That the colors be restudied.
ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
CASE 3.0236. Application by MIKE PIO for architectural approval of revised
elevations for warehouse/office on Valdiva Way/Tachevah/LaCompana, M-1-P
Zone, Section 7.
Planning Director stated that the application was continued for the
applicant to provide relief to the long curved wall on the front of the
building.
Commission discussed its concerns over the unbroken frontage. Consensus
was that the line should be broken by fenestration although revised
landscaping has improved the appearance of the building.
Roger Travis, 2359 Leonard Road, project architect, stated that it is
difficult to add accessory details to a simple box form that is a ware-
house.
Commissioner Curtis stated that the appearance of some of the warehouses
on Valdivia should be reviewed by the applicant since some of them are
well designed. He also asked the applicant to ask staff for direction.
M/S/C (Curtis/Edgmon; Whitney/Olsen absent) for a restudy of the applic-
ation and direction to the applicant to work with staff to resolve
design concerns.
CASE 3.0300. Application by PEPITO FLORES for architectural approval of
single family residence on Phillips Road/Alejo Road, R-1-B Zone, Section
11.
�` M/S/C (Curtis/Hough; Whitney/Olsen absent) tabling the application.
October 28, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 4
ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT ACTION AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.0204 (MINOR)/3.343. Application by ROBERT CHEROSKE for architectural
approval of existing building color and revised landscape plan for
single family hillside residence at 575 N. Patencio, R-1-A Zone, Section
10.
Planning Director stated that the AAC had not given its final recommend-
ations of the color of the building, and the color should be continued
until November 12. He stated that there had been a number of letters
from residents of the area opposing the revised lighter gray color. He
described the landscaping and lighting on the board and stated that
exterior lighting will be reviewed after it is installed to see if it is
obtrusive.
M/S/C (Hough/Edgmon; Whitney/Olsen absent) approving the landscaping and
lighting subject to the following conditions:
1. That no light source is to be seen from off site.
2. That intensity of uplighting be consistent (reduced wattage) .
3. That the overall lighting be reviewed in the field and possibly
adjusted to fit the environment.
4. That the landscape plan is acceptable.
5. That the color is continued for input from the AAC to November 12.
CASE 3.0277. Application by SCOTT DORIUS for architectural approval of a mini
storage . facility on Gene Autry Trail/E. Palm Canyon Drive, M-1 Zone
(I.L. ) , Section 20.
Planner (Vankeeken) presented the project to the Commission including
the reasons for staff recommending denial .
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Planning Director stated that staff rarely recommends denial/ a project
built by right-of-zone but the subject project is not adding anything to
the activities or uses already in the area is inconsistent with the
Tahquitz Creek Scenic Recreation Plan and that the AAC recommended a
restudy.
He stated that staff and the applicant have had many discussions
regarding alternatives to the application for a better land use or to
move the building to the rear of the site, but the applicant feels the
project is the best he can do at the present time. He stated that there
is a precedent by the courts in denying a right of zone application
although the City Attorney has serious reservations about the precedent,
feeling that the case was not exactly applicable to the situation; and
that the Planning Commission can deny the application or send it back
for a revised plan.
Assistant City Attorney explained that the only Commission matter is an
architectural consideration since the City does not have the power to
prohibit uses in the zone, especially when a CUP is not required; and
October 28, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 5
ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT ACTION AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.0277. (Continued)
that the precedent setting case was somewhat different in that consider-
ations of conditions similar to those provided for a CUP were involved.
He stated that this latitude is not provided in the present situation.
Chairman stated that the Commission can rule on the architecture only
until staff and the City Attorney agree before action is taken on the
use.
M/S/C (Edgmon/Hough) for a restudy noting the following:
1. That the overall site needs developing because of the site's
visibility including the viability from the elevated portions of
the Oasis Water Park.
2. That the entire landscape plan be restudied; add landscaping to
the perimeter; coordinate landscape with adjacent properties and
add landscape to the interior.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
CASE 5.0421-PD-185 HOSPITAL EXPANSION & 185-B EL MIRADOR TOWER MEDICAL
OFFICES & 5.0456-GPA GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT) . Application by DESERT
HOSPITAL for a Planned Development District to allow phased redevelop-
ment and expansion of the Hospital campus for hospital and related
health care uses on 25.69 acres bounded by Indian Avenue, Tachevah
Drive, Via Miraleste, and Mel Avenue, R-4/R-2 Zones, Section 11. (This
expansion includes a permanent heliport location. ) Also to be
considered is an amendment to the General Plan Land Use Plan to expand
the area designated as "Hospital" and delete from the street plan the
portion of E1 Mirador between Indian Avenue/Via Miraleste.
(Commission response to written comments on Draft Negative Declaration;
action. No written comments received on preparation of the Draft
Negative Declaration. )
Planner (Patenaude) explained that the application was continued from
October 14; that the plan is a four phase one over a 20 year period; and
that a helipad will be constructed on a vacated portion of Paseo E1
Mirador. He described construction of the four phases and stated that
issues are the street closure and traffic impacts caused by increased
hospital trips, a slight reduction in open space, parking structures,
emergency access on Via Miraleste, new highrise towers, and the
permanent heliport. He stated that the Commission action entails
approval of the Planned Development District in lieu of a Zone Change,
approval of the General Plan amendments to expand the hospital designa-
tion north of Mel Avenue and to delete a portion of El Mirador between
Palos Verdes and Via Miraleste from the General Plan; and final approval
of the architecture of the El Mirador Tower office building. He stated
that the issue receiving the most attention is the helipad, and that if
the Commission decides to approve the helipad, staff recommends that the
City restrict the operation to specific areas with approach to the west
of the helipad from the Indian Avenue/Palm
Canyon corridor with
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0421-PD-185 HOSPITAL EXPANSION & 185-B EL MIRADOR TOWER MEDICAL
OFFICES & 5.0456-GPA GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT (Continued)
helicopter operations to observe altitudes as shown on a map prepared by
staff to reduce noise impacts. He stated that this pattern would have
to be approved by the appropriate agencies before the hospital receives
approval of the helipad, that one letter had been received in favor from
a Cal Brown at 695 Paseo E1 Mirador, and several had been received in
opposition - primarily to the issue of helicopter noise and danger.
Commissioner Hough indicated that the alternate route has been changed
from the north to the south through input from the FAA tower chief.
Planner stated that the height of 1,000 ft. is to be reached within a
4000 ft. radius of the pad.
Planning Director stated that staff research indicates that while staff
recommends approval, there is no mandate that the helicopter land on or
near the site and that the allowance for the helipad use normally means
that a CUP is required, and if the Commission approves the helipad, the
use of helicopters should be restricted to the site. He stated there
have been 19 landings in 6 months. In response to Commission question
he stated that the helicopters cannot land in the parking lot if the
helipad is not approved.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
Michael Fontana, Hospital Planner, stated that the hospital ' s viewpoint
had been presented at the October 14 meeting; that there are no problems
with the additional modifications to the approach and landing patterns;
and that the Division of Aeronautics will probably have no problems with
the changes.
Elliot Field, 1380 Tamarisk, voiced opposition to the helipad, stating
that he has been a neighbor and has brought children to Katherine
Finchey School for many years and the helipad is a frightening thought.
He stated that if a helicopter strayed away from the proposed corridor
it could terrorize people with an approach of much less than a 1,000 ft.
He stated that he wondered what the compelling reason could be for a
heliport when the airport is so close and requested Commission consider-
ation that the permanency of the heliport risks lives.
Kathy Newman, 434 The Palms, whose residence is northwest of the
helipad, stated that she had purchased her home three years ago and com-
pletely renovated it and the grounds, although she knew the area was
economically depressed, but thought that privacy and the value of the
property were important. She stated that she had been an anchorwoman
for CBS and NBC and retired to Palm Springs and the helipad will be
placed in front of her home, which frightens her, and that she was a
reporter reporting a helicopter accident in 1978 in Portland when two
friends of hers in an auto rotating helicopter were practicing manuevers
for emergency situations and crashed because of wind gusts and being
blown into high power lines causing the craft to flip over and the pilot
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<.. to be killed and the co-pilot to be critically injured
She explained that the two men were experienced helicopter pilots and
that the accident is the kind that happens where the winds are unpre-
October 28, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 7
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0421-PD-185 HOSPITAL EXPANSION & 185-B EL MIRADOR TOWER MEDICAL
OFFICES) & 5.0456-GPA (GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT) . (Continued)
dictable. She stated that there have been two other recent major
crashes and that the helipad is a danger to the densely populated area
and the neighborhood school, and that she had witnessed the helicopter
landing and the police closing the street and she was afraid for her
home. She requested that the neighbors' safety be considered and stated
that helicopters are not necessary and that she had contacted the
National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) which reported that there
were 211 accidents in 1986 and that in July 1987 a study was begun
because too high a percentage of the accidents had been emergency
services accidents, and that these types of accidents have increased in
the last two years. She stated that she could give the Commission names
of the members of the NTSB if they desired. She again reiterated the
consideration of the safety of the neighbors.
Val Winiecki, 2268 A. North Indian Avenue, president of the 119 unit
Palm Springs Townhomes Association, stated that he usually takes a walk
at 5 a.m. and last weekend watched a helicopter come down Indian Avenue
south toward the hospital veering to the left and circling before
landing at the hospital . He stated that it was reminiscent of the years
he spent in Westchester near Orange County Airport, and that this heli-
copter was not 500 feet above the ground. He requested a decible
reading of the helicopter landing and remarked that the noise at Orange
County Airport caused him to move to Palm Springs.
�--' Bill Coffman, 900 block of Mel Avenue, voiced opposition, stating that
he had safety concerns because of the nearby school and stated that the
helicopter comes very close and circles over roofs looking for the
helipad.
Mary Lawler, 2268-E N. Indian, resident of the Palm Springs Townhomes,
objected to the impacts to the immediate neighborhood and stated that
she was also on the flight path of the emergency helicopter and on the
alternate flight path of the new helipad, and requested that if approved
the helipad be relocated to the northeast corner of Tachevah and Indian
or deferred to the Phase III location on top of the Nursing Tower. She
stated that the Liberace Museum was denied by the City Council as an
intrusion into the Las Palmas neighborhood, and that the helipad is a
far greater intrusion into the quality of life of the hospital
neighbors.
Al Gergeley, 420 S. Palm Canyon, attorney representing several residents
of the area, stated that he had problems with the noise report because
it does not indicate where the landings occur and at what height; and
that at a 10 degree angle the copters will only be a 100 ft. of the
ground at a distance off 100 feet. He stated that a temporary helipad
is in violation of the Public Utilities Code since it is within 1,000
feet of the school and notices must be published and the school
notified. He stated that there have been a number of studies made
regarding helicopter uses and that one of the problems is caused by
�., pilots being encouraged to fly in unsafe copters and under unsafe
weather conditions for emergency services, and that the use endangers
the lives of the neighbors as well as those on board the helicopter. He
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0421-PD-185 (HOSPITAL EXPANSION) & 185-B (EL MIRADOR TOWER MEDICAL
OFFICES) & 5.0456-GPA (GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT) . (Continued)
stated that there are in excess of 500 residential units impacted by the
noise path of the copter; that 85 decibels generated at the landing site
would be similar to a pneumatic drill at 50 feet and will disturb many
people. He stated that in a recent court case, the Supreme Court (Baker
vs. Burbank) ruled that the appellants had the right to sue for inverse
condemnation because of the effect on the land valuation and that the
case is a precedent for this type of use. He stated that there are many
law suits being litigated due to helicopters; that his clients want to
avoid litigation if possible, but are afraid that their property will be
devalued; and that the was has to be approved by the City, and the City
as well as the Hospital could be held responsible in a law suit. He
stated that in 1970, a helipad was approved for the hospital for a year
and if a permanent facility would then to be considered, it was to be
located on a rooftop, and that contingueous land owners can file action
if the noise level exceeds City of Palm Springs Noise Ordinance. (He
presented a copy of the summary of the Supreme Court case to the staff) .
Vince Dundee, 455 The Palms, requested information of financial con-
sideration if a property is devalued by a City action.
Assistant City Attorney stated that Government Code 7265 provides that
if a public agency requires land to be used as an airport and con-
tigueous property values are diminished, the public agency could be
required to provide reimbursement up to $15,000 per property owner, but
�... that the code is not applicable in this case because a public agency is
not acquiring land for use as an airport.
Mr. Dundee replied that the code applies to a private agency serving the
public and the public agency can be held responsible as well . He stated
that he disagreed with the City Attorney's interpretation, and that law-
suits will follow if the helipad is approved.
William Stremmel, 1194 Via Miraleste, stated that he lived on the corner
of Via Miraleste and El Mirador and that the helicopter used to land in
front of his front door and that at one time his home was being closed to
access by party guests because the street was closed for a helicopter
landing. He stated that he complained to the Desert Hospital Board
President and was assured that the incidents would stop, but that they
did not. He said he finally called the City which was unaware that
landings were being made in the public streets and the landings were
stopped because of liability; and that helicopter rotors stir up dust
and sand and deposit it in his pool. He stated that he was under the
assumption that the flight paths were to change, but Thursday, October
15, the day after the October 14 meeting of the Planning Commission, a
helicopter flew from the east and landed at 4:00 a.m. and flew out
through the west, which was in direct opposition to the flight path
described by Mr. Fontana. He stated that he had other problems in that
there are 2-hour parking signs in front of his house which are not being
observed, but the the City states that the hospital has to enforce the
parking. He stated that the hospital says it will enforce the two hour
parking but does not, and that ambulances still travel up and down Paseo
E1 Mirador although less frequently. He stated he was worried about
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0421-PD-185 (HOSPITAL EXPANSION) & 185-B (EL MIRADOR TOWER MEDICAL
E�
OFFICES) & 5.0456-GPA (GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT). (Continued)
helicopters landing and searching for a spot in the area during the
early morning hours when the FAA tower is closed; that the few landings
projected are not enough to pay for the construction cost of the heli-
pad; that the hospital is probably considering the military emergencies
which will be increased money for the hospital ; and that after the huge
expansion of the Twenty-nine Palms Marine Corps Base is completed, there
will be many more landings. He also objected to adding two more 5-story
towers when the present tower has empty beds. He suggested using the
money that is budgeted for the helipad to move the emergency services
facilities over to Indian Avenue and Tachevah because Indian Avenue is
a four lane road which can handle the heavy flow of traffic. He stated
that the school will be affected by the ambulance. route and that the
major arteries should be used.
Vincent Dundee, 455 The Palms, said he had researched air safety and
found that for public relations and a desperate attempt to fill beds,
hospitals put patients into the air when it is not necessary; that most
hospitals would like to get into the helicopter business since despite
the cost, helicopters have many enticements to the hospitals and can
generate a million dollars on a severe trauma case delivered by heli-
copter. He stated that a helicopter is an important revenue generator
witha high visibility and public relations function, and can increase
patient count and enhance a hospital 's reputation. He stated that the
public should recognize this and that the "war games" cost the public
r� much money. He stated that if the Commission approves the use, the city
can be part of a legal action against the hospital and the City.
Michael Fontana (rebuttal) stated that the hospital is not going to base
a helicopter service at the hospital and is only requesting the saving
of lives through transportation by helicopter service to the helipad.
He stated that the helipad meets the Division of Aeronautics and FAA
requirements and will eliminate problems of the past and will help
pilots identify the landing spots. He stated that the helipad is not a
money making venture, but is done with an obligation as a trauma center
to save lives.
Planner at Commission request gave directions for Commission action.
Planning Director suggested action on the General Plan amendment first
to allow facility of the Master Plan.
Commissioner Hough stated that two new 5-story nursing towers are in a
later phase and will be constructed on as needed basis and no empty beds
will be affected.
Planning Director in response to Commission question stated that the
landscaping and elevations have only minor concerns.
M/S/C (Neel/Curtis; Whitney/Olsen absent) ordering the filing of the
Negative Declaration, approving the General Plan Amendments, approving
the Planned Development District subject to conditions, the elevations
of the El Mirador Tower subject to conditions and the preliminary site
October 28, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 10
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0421-PD-185 (HOSPITAL EXPANSION) & 185-B (EL MIRADOR TOWER MEDICAL
OFFICES) & 5.0456-GPA (GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT). (Continued)
plan (excluding the helipad) based on the following findings and subject
to the following conditions:
Findings
1. That the hospital expansion program is necessary and desirable for
serving the continuing health care needs of the community, is in
harmony with the objectives of the General Plan and is not detri-
mental to existing uses.
2. That the corresponding General Plan amendments are necessary to
accommodate the expansion program and create a logical extension
of the hospital use.
3. That the 26.4-acre site is adequate in size and configuration to
accommodate the expansion program and all property development
standards in order to adjust the Hospital to the neighborhood.
4. That the project is located on Indian Avenue, Tachevah Drive and
Via Miraleste, all of which are required to be fully improved in
order to carry the type and quantity of traffic generated by the
hospital at full buildout.
5. That the visual impact of the high-rise portions of the hospital
is not significant.
6. That the establishment of a heliport will not create any new noise
conflicts with surrounding residential properties.
Conditions
1. The detailed final development plans for each phase or building
shall be submitted in accordance with Sections 9403.00 and 9404.00
of the Zoning Ordinance as each phase is implemented.
2. Detailed parking plans shall be submitted for approval in accord-
ance with Item #1 above. Parking spaces shall be provided in
accordance with Section 9306.00 of the Zoning Ordinance, except
that parking for the Medical Office building may be provided at
the rate of one space for each 200 sq. ft. of gross floor area due
to its size (over 10,000 sq. ft. ) and its relationship within the
Hospital campus.
3. It is intended that Section 9304.00 of the Zoning Ordinance (High-
rise Buildings) should be complied with. The point of measurement
for building height shall be the adjoining curb elevation. After
further review and analysis, the Planning Commission reserves the
right to adjust the required setback.
4. Prior to approval of the development plans for Phase I, the
Hospital shall demonstrate ownership of all parcels within the
boundaries of the proposed Planned Development District.
October 28, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 11
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0421-PD-185 (HOSPITAL EXPANSION) & 185-B (EL MIRADOR TOWER MEDICAL
OFFICES) & 5.0456-GPA (GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT). (Continued)
5. A preliminary landscaping plan shall be submitted. The plan shall
show a common landscape theme throughout the project and shall
serve as the landscape master plan to be used as a guide for pre-
paration of detailed landscaping plans.
6. That all Development Committee conditions shall be complied with.
7. That all mitigation measures of the Environmental Assessment shall
be complied with:
a. That the provisions of Chapter 70 of the Uniform Building
Code blowsand abatement measure, as amended by the City,
shall be complied with.
b. That the heliport be used for emergency purposes only and
the primary access and egress be from and to the west.
C. As a critical facility, the planning and design of
facilities on this site shall take into account the likeli-
hood of an earthquake of magnitude 7.5 on both the San
Andreas and the San Jacinto faults.
d. The developer shall contribute the full cost of signaliza-
tion at the intersection of Via Miraleste and Tachevah
�..� Drive. The signal would be installed with the warrant
criteria is satisfied.
The developer shall contribute the full cost of the modifi-
cation of the Indian Avenue at Tachevah Drive traffic
signal. The modification would consist of installing left-
turn phasing for northbound/southbound traffic. This would
be provided when left-turn warrant criteria is satisfied.
The developer shall contribute one-half the cost for signal-
ization at each of the following intersections: Sunrise Way
at Tachevah and Vista Chino at Via Miraleste. The signals
will be installed when warrant criteria is satisfied.
The design and construction of the above traffic signals
will be provided by the City of Palm Springs. The signal
locations will be added to the City's Capital Improvement
Program, with the developer's contribution. In the event a
general traffic impact mitigation fee is adopted which
requires Hospital participation, the City may determine such
fee to be adequate to cover partial or full cost of the
required traffic signals.
e. The parking along the following streets shall be removed to
provide adequate capacity for the traffic volumes that will
be generated by this project with implementation to be
established by the Traffic Engineer:
October 28, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 12
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0421-PD-185 HOSPITAL EXPANSION & 185-B EL MIRADOR TOWER MEDICAL
OFFICES & 5.0456-GPA GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT Continued
Via Miraleste - Tachevah Drive to Mel Avenue
Tachevah Drive - Indian Avenue to Avenida Caballeros
Mel Avenue - Indian Avenue to Via Miraleste
Avenida Palos Verdes - Paseo El Mirador to Mel Avenue
f. All driveway openings shall be installed a minimum of 200
feet apart.
g. All driveways shall be constructed per City Standard Drawing
No. 205 and shall be a minimum of 32 feet in width with a 25
foot radius return.
h. All parking stalls shall be installed a minimum of 50 feet
from the end of curb return to allow for stacking.
Chairman stated that the safety and comfort of the general area
residents should be considered, but that the hospital is the only trauma
center in a 50 mile radius and that consideration has to be weighed
against the concerns of the 500 to 750 people in the immediate area.
In response to Commission question, Planning Director stated that a
temporary landing site is not allowed within 1000 feet of the school
unless approved by the FAA, that the helipad is 100 feet from the apart-
ments at Palos Verdes and El Mirador; that the staff does not know if
�s the helipad is FAA approved since the location would be a part of the
application by Desert Hospital to the FAA; and that FAA requirements
regarding lighting specifics and other details have not been seen by
staff, including a flight path that these details can be reviewed in
final development plans and that the Commission can judge in the final
context impacts that are not apparent now.
Commissioner Curtis stated that for the people in the audience the
steeper glide slope would alleviate some of the concerns and that the
only concern in the future may be noise. He asked when the helipad
would be moved to the 5-story nursing tower. Commissioner Hough also
requested this information. Planning Director stated that the request
is for a permanent helipad; and that it would be a permanent facility
enjoying the approval of the City and the FAA as to its design, location
and usage as opposed to the temporary landing site that the hospital has
been using.
Commissioner Hough stated that upon completion of the first 5 story
tower, the pad will be moved to that building.
Planning Director explained that the use could be conditioned for one
year with a review at the end of that year, or condition the use to be
placed on the first tower, or it could be approved and the list of uses
could be established with the trauma patients landing at the airport
during hours that are outside of the allowable landing hours, but the
hour curtailment might have to be explored with the FAA. He stated that
October 28, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 13
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0421-PD-185 HOSPITAL EXPANSION & 185-B EL MIRADOR TOWER MEDICAL
OFFICES & 5.0456-GPA GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT (Continued)
the most impact usage is the night landings and conditions could be
placed regarding these and should be explored. He stated that there
could be no night usage if the Commission desires.
Commissioner Hough stated that no usage at night is not equitable since
the savings of lives is paramount; that the intrusion of night use and
legality of control after 11:00 p.m. is a concern, but that the FAA felt
that control could be exercised.
stated
Chairman /that the use could be conditioned for a year with controls over
the flight paths with use by trauma patients only, and that the hospital
could work with the airport.
Commissioner Hough stated that the only verification of the use that
could be made would be through the FAA in terms of approaches and
departures in a certain time frame.
Commissioner Edgmon stated that a time frame is the only way she would
support the helipad and that safety and noise issues are important. She
stated that it should be reviewed in a year and the residents could let
the Commission know what is occurring.
Chairman stated that only testimony from those opposed has been heard
since those in opposition have a stake in the outcome because they live
�...� in the area and the noise is difficult for the residents, but the
Commission is not hearing from the vast area which would be served by
the trauma center, and that having an immediate access to the hospital
is necessary.
Commissioner Curtis stated that the burden of proof should be placed on
the hospital to meet conditions the Commission stipulates.
M/S/C (Curtis/Hough; Whitney/Olsen absent) approving the helipad subject
to the following conditions:
1. That the helipad operations be for one year with a review by the
Commission at the end of that time on the impacts to the neighbor-
hood, usage, etc. , with the burden of proof on compliance with
Commission conditions to be placed on the hospital with compliance
to be reviewed also at the end of the year.
2. That details of ambulance routing be submitted with final develop-
ment plans.
3. That a flight operations plan including routing, glide path ratio,
height and location be submitted with final development plans and
shall receive all necessary approvals from appropriate govern-
mental agencies.
�,, 4. That the helipad be used for emergency trauma patients only.
October 28, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 14
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0421-PD-185 HOSPITAL EXPANSION & 185-B EL MIRADOR TOWER MEDICAL
OFFICES & 5.0456-GPA GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT) . (Continued)
NOTE: Signatures of twenty-five residents immediately affected by the
helipad operations were received at the end of the meeting and placed in
the 5.0421-PD-185 file.
CASE 5.0454-CUP (REF. CASE 3.0260) CONTINUED. Application by LASZLO SANDOR
for Harold Matzner for a conditional use permit to allow construction of
a tennis court with substandard setbacks on Crescent Drive, Patencio
Road, R-1-A Zone, Section 10.
(This action is categorically exempt from environmental assessment per
CEQA guidelines. )
Planning Director stated that the site plan issues have been addressed
by the architect as he understood direction of the Commission; that the
AAC recommended a restudy; that the applicants plan to sink the court,
and no new letters have been received from the neighbors.
Commissioner Edgmon commented that the parking area is not appropriate
in front of the tennis court, even if the driveway is shifted.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
Bob Keene, 830 Fair Circle, stated that he approved of the project
because the site has become a dumping ground for materials used by
builders and that the tennis court will eliminate the dump.
There being no further appearances, Chairman declared the hearing
closed.
M/S/C (Hough/Curtis; Whitney/Olsen absent) for a restudy noting the
following:
1. That the driveway be shifted to the east.
2. That mounding and additional screening be provided.
3. That the landscape materials be sympathetic to the environment.
4. That the on-site parking adjacent to the tennis court be
eliminated.
October 28, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 15
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0400-ZTA. Initiation by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS for revisions to the
interim Zoning Ordinance (all sections) and adoption of set ordinance as
final.
(Environmental Assessments/Initial Study has been previously considered
and a Negative Declaration filed. )
Recommendation: That the Commission continue the application to November
12.
Planning Director stated that the Tribal Council has requested a
continuance for their review until November 12, and that staff will
request that council continue the application.
Chairman declared the hearing open; there being no appearances, the
hearing was closed.
M/S/C (Curtis/Neel ; Whitney/Olsen absent) continuing the case to
November 12 at the Tribal Council ' s request.
TPM 20943 (REVISED). Application by DANNY RAY ORMSBY for a tentative parcel
map to divide two lots on property located in Palm Hills adjacent to
Cathedral City Cove area, UR Zone, Section 5.
(Commission response to written comments on Draft Negative Declaration;
`. action. No comments received. )
Recommendation: That the Commission order the filing of a Draft Nega-
tive Declaration and approve TPM 20493 subject to conditions.
Planner (Vankeeken) gave the staff report.
Planning Director stated that although staff is supporting the approval
of the map, there is a concern of allowing for illegal sales of property
without a subdivision map and accommodating the subdivision after the
fact, and that the development should only take place after a full EIR,
although the lots are large enough for development. He stated that
there should be no problem with the creation of the lots and that the
easterly parcel is the one that was sold.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
Bob Mainiero, 777 E. Tahquitz, project engineer, stated that he con-
curred with staff' s recommendations.
The being no further appearances, the hearing was closed.
M/S/C (Neel/Hough; Olsen/Whitney absent) approving TPM 20943 based on
the following findings and subject to the following conditions:
October 28, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 16
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
TPM 20943 (REVISED) . (Continued)
Findings
1. That a parcel map is the appropriate application for the proposed
subdivision.
2. That the Palm Hills General Plan classifies the site area as con-
servation area and has been designated for not residential
development.
3. That all development in the Palm Hills area shall be subject to
the Planned Development District provisions of the Zoning
Ordinance.
4. That the nearest available utilities are located at Highway 111
and that the Riverside County Flood Control District maintains a
levee on the subject property and that portions of the property
may be subject to flooding.
5. That in 1985 an application for a 4 parcel Tentative Parcel Map
was submitted with the intent to de-annex that portion (Parcel 2)
suitable for development, based in the fact that Parcel 2 could be
more reasonably developed and serviced as part of the City of
Cathedral City.
6. That the City Council for the City of Cathedral City denied the
application for pre-annexation zoning for Parcel 2.
7. That in December 1985 the City Council ordered the preparation of
an Environmental Impact Report (baseline study) before consider-
ation of any development of the property (Resolution 15735), this
Resolution was appealed and in February 1986 the ordering of an
Environmental Impact Report (baseline study) was reaffirmed by the
City Council.
8. That the proposed subdivision as conditioned including a require-
ment that no development will be allowed on either of the lots, is
consistent with the City's General Plan and Zoning Ordinance and
conditions have been imposed to insure that the proposed map will
not be detrimental to the public health, safety and welfare.
9. That the proposal is to create two parcels in order to recognize a
previous sale and is not for the purpose of development.
Conditions
1. That the creation of Parcel 1 and 2 is only for the purpose of
separating the west-half of Section 5 from the east-half of
Section 5.
2. That no development shall be permitted on Parcel 1 and/or Parcel 2
without additional consideration as outlined herein.
October 28, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 17
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
TPM 20943 (REVISED) . (Continued)
3.That prior to any development of Parcel 1 or Parcel 2, the pre-
paration of an Environmental Impact Report (baseline study) and a
master plan for development under Planned Development District
procedures shall be required.
4. That all conditions of the Development Committee shall be compli-
mented.
TPM 22700. Application by KRIEGER & STEWART for Bobby Ray Preckwinkle for a
tentative parcel map to subdivide a 40-acre parcel into four parcels on
the east side of Gene Autry Trail between Mesquite Avenue/East Palm
Canyon Drive, M-1 Zone (I.L. ), Section 20.
(Commission response to written comments on Draft Negative Declaration;
action. No comments received. )
Recommendation: That the Commission order the filing of a Negative
Declaration and approve TPM 22700 subject to condition.
Planner (Vankeeken) presented the project on the board.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
Scott Dorius, 111 Tahquitz, applicant, stated that the map of the entire
area was submitted in accordance with staff's recommendations. He
described the property.
M/S/C (Hough/Neel ; Whitney/Olsen absent) approving TPM 22700 based on
the following findings and subject to the following conditions:
Findings
1. That the site is adequate in size and shape to accommodate the
proposed subdivision.
2. That the proposed subdivision is consistent with the Zoning
Ordinance and General Plan.
3. That the site is adequate physically for the type of development
and density of development.
4. That the proposed subdivision is not likely to result in any
adverse environmental impacts.
Conditions
1. That the application is. subject to the fee for funding a reserve
for the fringe-toed lizard. Proof of payment shall be submitted
prior to issuance of building permits for each parcel .
October 28, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 18
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
TPM 22700. (Continued)
2. That a standard "avigation easement and non-suit covenant" in a
form prescribed and approved by the City Attorney has been pro-
vided by and with reference to present and future owners shall be
submitted to the satisfaction of the Director of Transportation
and Energy prior to recordation of the final map.
3. That all mitigative measures identified in Environmental Assess-
ment/Initial Study be implemented as follows:
a. That the provisions of Chapter 70 of the Uniform Building
Code blowsand abatement measures as amended by the City
shall be complied with.
b. City Engineering Division conditions require that the site
accept and convey to an approved drainage carrier flood
and/or nuisance waters that impinge upon site. Also, the
City Engineer required that flood and/or nuisance waters
leaving the site will not cause erosion, nuisance or damage
(See Development Committee Condition's Engineering - General
7 and 8).
C. Mitigation will be accomplished through contribution of the
Coachella Valley Fringe-Toed Lizard mitigation fee to
acquire Coachella Valley Fringe-Toed Lizard Reserves Fes
L..� will be collected by the Native Conservancy which will
pursue the land acquisition program.
TPM 22406. Application by HACKER ENGINEERING COMPANY INC. for John Rocca for
a tentative tract map to subdivide property into 13 lots for residential
purposes at Morongo Trail/Araby Drive, R-1-B Zone, Section 25.
(Commission response to written comments on Draft Negative Declaration;
action. No comments received.)
Planning Director stated that the area developed very early in the City,
and the AAC recommended further study for the perimeter landscaping plan
to integrate the project and an individual lot development plan sub-
mitted prior to approval of the map. He stated that the tennis court on
Lot 12 will have a separate application when the lot develops, and there
is a front yard and backyard condition on several of the lots which are
difficult to develop. He stated that one letter and one phone conversa-
tion had been in favor of the project; and that the AAC is also recom-
mending a continuance to determine whether or not the lots can be
developed before the map is approved. He stated that no setbacks have
been shown on the lots; and that the two front yard conditions do not
allow walls on Morongo Road. He stated that the builder has a track
record in the City having recently completed a tract of houses at Sonora
and Farrell .
October 28, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 19
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
TPM 22406. (Continued)
Chairman declared the hearing open.
Larry Cole, Hacker Engineering, 490 S. Farrell, stated that the parcel
has been difficult to develop and all has been done that can be done on
the design. He stated that staff and the applicants can work together
to fit the map into the neighborhood, that a perimeter wall has been
discussed to eliminate some of the front yards.
Chairman stated that with perimeter walls there is private property on
the outside of the wall toward the street which is never maintained and
this condition should be finalized before approval is given to the map.
Mr. Cole stated that a homeowners association would be formed for main-
tenance.
Sylvia Morgan, 2766 Anza Trail, stated that her property backs onto the
parcel ; that oleanders and a chain link fence were placed on the
property line; that these were removed and trees and shrubs planted and
maintained by Earl Neel until he sold the property, and that she now
maintains them. She stated that she did not want trees removed; that
the single story houses would be an asset to the neighborhood and that
she did not want the tennis court because of lighting. She stated that
she is surprised that Mr. Press is not in attendance to support the
elimination of the court.
Kaye McManahan, 2714 Anza, asked if a private wall were to be built
along the property line. She stated that she felt there should be one,
but no tennis court.
Planning Director stated that the plan does not show a wall and is not a
requirement, although a six foot wall could be constructed with a
building permit and also that the Commission could require it.
There being no further appearances, the hearing was closed.
Planning Director stated that the map could be approved subject to con-
ditions, including the formation of a homeowners association for peri-
meter landscape maintenance and for continuity, and the AAC recommended
continuance so that pads can be developed before the tentative map is
approved.
M/S/C (Curtis/Edgmon; Whitney/Olsen absent) continuing the application
to November 12 for the applicant to address AAC concerns as follows:
1. That a streetscape plan including landscaping and perimeter walls
be submitted.
2. That preliminary site development plans be submitted.
3. That architectural review of the houses be conducted by staff
unless AAC review is necessary.
October 28, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 20
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
TPM 22406. (Continued)
4. That the applicant explore the possibility of forming a homeowners
association for maintenance and for continuity of the perimeter
landscaping.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - Three Minute Time Limit.
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
CASE 3.0300. Application by PEPITO FLORES for architectural approval of
single family residence on Phillips Road/Alejo Road, R-1-B Zone, Section
11.
M/S/C (Curtis/Neel ) taking the item off the table.
Planner (Vankeeken) presented the case.
Tom Hernandez, project architect, described the landscaping on the
project and stated that there is sufficient planning and adding more
would make the site cluttered.
He described the species of plants and trees proposed and stated that
colored concrete would be in the parking area.
Discussion continued on the AAC concerns and the landscaping.
Planner stated that the Committee felt that the driveway was too open
and should have landscaping.
Chairman recommended that the applicant meet with staff to review the
AAC concerns and to increase the landscaping.
Commissioner Edgmon stated that Mr. Buccino, landscape architect on the
AAC, was impressed with the Phillips site landscape elevations and felt
that the Alejo elevations should be improved (as did the other members) .
M/S/C (Curtis/Neel; Whitney/Olsen absent) approving the application sub-
ject to the following conditions:
1. That the materials on the fascia to be continuous.
2. That the driveway area be restudied (more landscaping and
screening).
3. That a more detailed preliminary landscape plan be submitted.
4. That the applicant review landscape details with staff.
October 28, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 21
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Continued)
CASE 3.0308-MINOR. Application by Warner Cable for architectural approval of
satellite dish at 1050 N. Palm Canyon Drive, C-1 Zone, Section 10.
Zoning Enforcement Officer stated that the City usually issues antenna
permits without review by the Commission, but when the Warner Cable
site was reviewed in the field, it was evident that the business had
outgrown its facility and there are more problems than the location of
the antenna. He stated that the problems were discussed with the
Assistant City Manager who explained that ongoing negotiations were
taking place with the company and that the business was looking for a
new site within 2 to 3 years. He stated that a letter had been received
from the General Manager of Warner Cable requesting architectural
approval of the satellite because of the necessity to bring in two sky
stations which have changed locations. He stated that dismantling could
begin in 1988 with the business offices to be moved in 1992.
Zoning Enforcement Officer stated that the parking area is shared with
another store which is unoccupied at the present time, but parking could
be a problem when it does become occupied; and that the antennas on the
site are very visible from the public right-of-way and cannot be
screened because of a necessity to face toward the orbiting stations.
Planning Director explained that the City has accommodated Warner
through the years on its antennas and its lack of parking and that more
antennas on the roof and more impact to the parking should not be
considered since the company has less than 30 of the required parking
spaces. He stated that the parking lot should be brought up to code
with perimeter landscaping on the north and south sides, that the trucks
should be relocated to another site, the parking lot throat redesigned,
and 30% coverage by shade trees should be required. He stated that the
application could be approved with parking lot upgrading and lack of
parking not to extend beyond 1990 with review at that time if the dishes
are not eliminated.
Mark Mathews, general manager, Warner Cable, stated that there are
parking problems and that the company is looking to relocate to the air-
port area with dishes to be moved, (but not until the system is changed
over to the new dishes) and that the dismantling will add 2-3 parking
spaces in the parking lot; but that the offices cannot be moved because
of lease requirements until 1992. He said that employees could take the
trucks home to add parking space.
Discussion continued on the upgrading of the parking lot.
M/S/C (Curtis/Neel ; Whitney/Olsen absent) approving a temporary
allowance of a dish antenna in the parking lot subject to the following
conditions:
1. That the parking lot be brought up to standards.
2. That the lack of parking space be resolved with staff.
October 28, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 22
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Continued)
CASE 3.0283. Application by WENDELL VEITH for Betty Chapman for architectural
approval of revised elevations for a 4-unit apartment complex on Camino
Real between La Jolla St./La Verne, R-2 Zone, Section 26.
Planning Director stated that the elevations were restudied on the
truncated portion of the site and that there is a problem with the pool
area since it cannot be accessed except around the side or in front of
each units windows; and that the area is very tight. He stated that
units can be shifted and private back yards created and that reduction
of one parking space could be allowed under a AMM. He stated that the
AAC had two motions before a third was approved for restudy; and that
the restudy recommended relocation of the pool.
Wendell Veith, project architect, 556 S. Sunrise, stated that he was
shocked at the restudy motion since he had thought that everything was
approved except for Unit 4; that financial matters have been completed
by the applicant pursuant to that approval ; and that the owner was
present to answer questions on the pool . He stated that site problems
have been resolved, that the pool should not be a problem because the
units are apartments, and that the setbacks could be adjusted on the
south and west allowing a move to the south to make the setback greater
along Camino Real and the parking space could be eliminated in front of
Unit 4. He requested approval as given before subject to a slight
modification (AMM) and future submittal of landscape plans.
Betty Chapman, the owner, stated that she would be the only one walking
by the windows, that she does not intend to use the pool and that she
did not want the pool on the street and would eliminate it if forced to
place it in that location.
Chairman stated that he did not feel that there was a problem in
accessing the pool.
Planning Director explained that one parking space should be eliminated
so the building does not loom onto the street.
M/S/C (Curtis/Neel ; Whitney/Olsen absent) approving the revised
elevations subject to the following conditions:
1. That all the recommendations of the Development Committee be
implemented.
2. That one parking space be eliminated on the north end of the
project in front of Unit 4 through an AMM application.
3. That landscaping be increased.
4. That the pool location is acceptable.
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October 28, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 23
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Continued)
CASE 3.0291. Request by SUNSPOT/KRAMER for clarification of conditions for 14
single family houses on Girasol, R-1-C Zone, Section 3.
Planning Director stated that the staff recommendation was not to allow
an additional 5 feet intrusion into the setbacks of the two properties
along Racquet Club Road, since the required setback is 25 ft. and an AMM
would allow 20 feet. He stated that the applicant has requested a 15
foot setback, and that the applicant thought the Commission had approved
it.
Chris Mills, 121 S. Palm Canyon, project architect, stated that he could
make the 20 foot setback work but all the building would have to be
pushed back to meet the tighter conditions.
Chairman suggested the applicant resolve the setback situation with
staff.
M/S/C (Hough/Edgmon; Whitney/Olsen absent) directing the applicant
resolve the setback problems with the Planning Director.
CASE 3.0261 (MINOR) . Request by CANYON HEIGHTS for reconsideration of revised
roof color for guard house located in condominium complex at 2901 S.
Palm Canyon Drive, PD-78, Section 34.
Planner (Evans) stated that the homeowners repainted the copper guard-
house roof and that the AAC felt that there might be damage to the
copper if the paint were removed and recommended reroofing in copper
or tiling the roof to match the condo roofs. He stated that the Home-
owners Association does not agreed with the recommendation and wants the
roof to remain painted.
Commissioner Edgmon stated that the roof is very unattractive.
Chairman stated that copper cannot be damaged unless acid is poured on
it, and the roof should be returned to the original copper or tiled.
Planner stated that the letters had been stripped and found not to be
metal, and that they will be have to be repainted with a copper paint.
M/S/C (Curtis/Neel; Whitney/Olsen absent) denying the reconsideration to
revise the roof color and directing that the roofs be taken back to
copper or tiled to match the existing condominium roofs.
October 28, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 24
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS. Update of City Council actions.
No report given.
COMMISSION/STAFF REPORTS OR REQUESTS.
No report given.
ADDED STARTERS. (Determination of eligibility for consideration. )
None.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Chairman adjourned the
meeting at 4:50 p.m.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
Council Chamber, City Hall
THURSDAY, November 12, 1987
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1987 - 1988
Present Present Excused. Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to date
Larry Lapham, Chairman X 8 0
Hugh Curtis X 8 0
Martha Edgmon - 6 2
Brent Hough X 7 1
Earl Neel X 7
Gary Olsen X 7 1
Barbara Whitney X 6 2
Staff Present
Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director
Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney
Richard Patenaude, Planner
Margo Williams, Planner
Carol Vankeeken, Planner
Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee - November 9, 1987
Chris Mills, Chairman Absent: Barbara Whitney
Mike Buccino Martha Edgmon, Alternate
Tom Doczi Gary Olsen, Alternate
Brent Hough
William Johnson
Will Kleindienst
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
M/S/C (Curtis/Neel ; Edgmon absent) approving minutes of October 28 as submitted.