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` PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
Council Chamber, City Hall
June 24, 1987
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1986 - 1987
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to date
Larry Lapham, Chairman X 22 0
Hugh Curtis X 20 2
Martha Edgmon X it 1
Brent Hough X 16 0
Earl Neel X 19 3
Gary Olsen X 18 4
Barbara Whitney X 16 3
Staff Present
Marvin D. oos, Planning Director
Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney
Douglas Evans, Planner
Robert Green, Planner
Dave Forcucci , Zoning Enforcement
Robert Mohler, Engineering Manager
Page Garner, Engineering Aide
Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee - June 22, 1987
.,. Chris Mills, Chairman Absent: Mike Buccino
Tom Doczi Brent Hough
Martha Edgmon Bill Johnson
William Johnson Will Kleindienst
Will Kleindienst
Gary Olsen
Barbara Whitney
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
M/S/C (Edgmon/Hough) approving minutes of June 10, 1987, with the following
corrections:
CASE 3.0205 (MINOR) . Page 2, third paragraph, condition no. 1 should read:
"That the existing gray color is approved for the walls of units only
June 24, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 2
CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
M/S/C (Curtis/Neel ) taking the following actions:
CASE 3.304. Application by AL VAN HOUTEN for One Central Bank for archi-
tectural approval of revised colors, materials, and awning for four, 4-
unit apartments on Avenida Caballeros between Vista Chino/Cottonwood, R-
2 Zone, Section 11.
Approved subject to the following condition: That the trim color and
awning shall be submitted for staff approval .
SIGN APPLICATION. Application by IMPERIAL SIGNS for architectural approval of
revisions to main identification sign for Vagabond Inn at 1699 South
Palm Canyon Drive, C-1/R-3 Zone, Section 22.
Restudy of the color and plastic face.
SIGN APPLICATION. Application by IMPERIAL SIGNS for architectural approval of
revised main identification sign for the Desert Hospital Sunrise
Building (former Palm Springs Medical Center) at 1695 Sunrise Way, P
Zone, Section 11.
Restudy of the plastic faced logo and the bulk of the sign.
ITEM REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
CASE 3.0223 (MINOR) . Application by JOHN WALLING for architectural approval
of garage ad2rition for residence at 575 N. Patencio Road between Alejo
Road/Crescent Drive, R-1-A Zone, Section 10.
Planner (Green) described the proposal and stated that the AAC
approved the house addition only (excluding the motor court and
associated excavation) ; and that the AAC had been concerned about the
proposed excavation for the motorcourt.
Commissioner Whitney stated that the house seems the most massive of all
the hillside homes and the addition will make it even a larger mass, and
that Planning Commission action should be delayed until the entire pro-
posal is submitted for review.
Planner stated that the garage extension requires a variance if the
existing garage is converted to residential use; and that a variance
would be reviewed at a public hearing by the Commission.
June 24, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 3
ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT ACTION AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.0223. (Continued)
John Walling, 45260 Club Drive, Indian Wells, the applicant, stated that
the motor court is proposed for vehicle maneuvering and storage; that if
the garage is not constructed, the motorcourt could be constructed and
the addition finished; and that the addition balances the mass of the
house and very little of it can be seen from the street.
M/S/C (Curtis/Edgmon) approving the house extension only (not the motor-
court and associated excavation) subject to the following condition:
That all recommendations of the Development Committee be met.
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
CASE 5.0421-PD-185-D. Application by DESERT HOSPITAL CORPORATION for
arch itectura approval of elevations and site plan for the E1 Mirador
medical offices and tower building, 1150 N. Indian Avenue, R-4 Zone,
Section 11.
(Concept approval . )
The application was removed from the agenda at the applicant's request.
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
DISCUSSION. Planning Commission discussion of sign ordinance provisions
relating to second story uses in the Plaza commercial complex, South
Palm Canyon Drive between Tahquitz Way/Arenas Road, C-6-D Zone, Section
15.
Planning Director stated that staff has taken action on the second story
sign which is on a portion of the building not controlled by Desmonds,
but that the issue of the old Desmond sign at the Plaza remains, and
staff recommends that Commission approve the Desmond sign as part of the
overall sign program for the Plaza.
Zoning Enforcement Officer stated that the proposed vertical second
story sign location was to have been reviewed on the Commission bus tour
June 12, but was forgotten; the applicant is anxious for a sign and the
location was reviewed by staff in the field and the sign, which has
brown lettering, will be supported by wrought iron elements to match the
other side of the building, and that the sign issues
on this particular sign Havo been resolved. He stated that the sign will
be three square feet on each side on the second story on the corner of
the building.
Commissioner Olsen stated that he had concerns about the visual impact
of the sign at the corner.
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MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Continued)
DISCUSSION. (Continued)
Zoning Enforcement Officer explained that review in the field indicated
that the sign would blend in with the building.
Commissioner Olsen remarked that even though the sign had been approved
at staff level , he had concerns about the effect on the appearance of
the Plaza.
M/S/C (Curtis/Neel ) approving the existing Desmond sign as part of the
overall sign program.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - None.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
CASE 5.0442-MISC (Continued) . Initiation by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS for
consideration of term5ation of a nonconforming car rental facility at
351 N. Indian Avenue, C-B-D Zone, Section 15.
(The ten year abatement period for the facility expired on March 3,
1986. This action is categorically exempt from Environmental Assess-
ment per CEQA guidelines. )
Planning Director stated that the use has been nonconforming because of
C-B-D Zoning instituted in 1976, although an expansion to the building
was approved in 1977 (which was never built) and that the car rental use
has continued on a sporadic basis until the present and operates as an
office during the season only because the main operation is at the air-
port. He stated that the owner requests an extension of time from the
City on a year-to-year basis until redevelopment occurs; and that the
owner agrees with the findings that the use is not the highest and best
use of the property; and that after discussions with the Redevelopment
Director and the owner, there is a possibility that the property may be
agglomerated and that staff recommends a short term time extension and
conditions that the property be upgraded in appearance. He stated that
the Redevelopment Agency has no problems with the time extension and
will work with the applicant for upgrading the property.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
Gary Paxton, 6141 W. Century Blvd. , Los Angeles, representing the owner,
stated that the owner will work with the City to develop the landscape
plan and to upgrade the property, and that there are no problems with a
short term extension since there is a higher and better use for the
property, and that a 60 to 90 day abatement notice is satisfactory.
There being no further appearances, Chairman declared the hearing
closed.
June 24, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 5
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0442. (Continued)
M/S/C (Hough/Neel ) approving a twelve-month time extension for the use
with a 60 to 90 day notice of abatement, and directed that staff work
with the applicant and the Redevelopment Agency to develop both long and
short term uses for the property, and also that detailed landscape,
irrigation, and exterior lighting plans be submitted for.. AAC and
Planning Commission approval within 60 days, based on the following
findings and subject to the following conditions:
Findings:
1. That the car rental facility at 351 N. Indian Avenue was lawfully
erected at its current location in 1973 in accordance with archi-
tectural approval Case 2.634.
2. That the underlying zoning of the subject property was changed
from C-1 to C-B-D in 1976.
3. That in 1976 with the adoption of a new zoning section for the C-
B-D car rental uses were prohibited in the C-B-D Zone.
4. That as stated in the Zoning Ordinance the intent of the C-B- D
Zone was and is to promote "the Central Business District,
primarily business in character with related hotels, apartments,
service, cultural , and institutional uses. The Central Business
District is intended to be a compact, lively, active, intensively
used area catering to the pedestrian. Planted parkways, covered
walks, and open plazas that provide sitting, dining, conversing,
gathering, and window shopping are permitted and encouraged."
5. That adequate locations exist outside the C-B-D to permit auto-
mobile rental facilities to service the residents and tourists of
Palm Springs.
6. That the "non-conforming uses" provisions for the Palm Springs
Zoning Ordinance outline procedures to be instituted in the event
of non-conforming uses.
7. That the provisions for non-conforming uses allow a 10-year period
from the date a use becomes non-conforming for an owner to
terminate the use unless extended pursuant to those provisions.
8. That the 10-year amortization period for the subject car rental
facility was complete as of March 3, 1986.
9. That alternate conforming uses could be established in the
facility.
10. That the car rental facility could only become a conforming use if
it were incorporated within a resort hotel which is an allowable
conditional use set forth in the Zoning Ordinance.
June 24, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 6
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0442. (Continued)
11. That the redevelopment possibilities in the vicinity of the sub-
ject property includes possible aggregation of properties
including the recently razed Date Barn property.
12. That the car rental use does not contribute to the retail ,
pedestrian orientation of the downtown area or to the specific
neighborhood.
13. That no extension of time is necessary to allow amortization of
improvements.
Condition-;:
That a detailed landscape, irrigation, and exterior lighting plan be
submitted.
Note: The extension period expires on June 24, 1988.
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP 22401 (Continued) . Application by MAINIERO, SMITH AND
ASSOCIATES or Sunspot/Kramer foF a tentative tract map to develop four-
teen single family residences on Racquet Club Road between Cardillo
Road/Girasol , R-1-C Zone, Section 3.
(Commission response to written comments on Draft Negative Declaration;
final approval ; no comments received. )
Recommendation: That the Commission order the filing of a Negative
Declaration and give final approval subject to conditions for the map.
Planning Director stated that the Commission gave tentative approval on
June 10 and recommended that curbs and gutters be deferred until other
property develops in the area; that Engineering representatives want to
discuss the curb and gutter situation with the Commission; and that the
final analysis may rest with the Council .
Engineering Manager stated that the Engineering concerns have been out-
lined in two memos to the Commission; and that the General Operations
staff agrees with the Engineering recommendations; that further hillside
development will continue and that the conditions for the project may be
setting a precedent. He stated that a city-wide assessment district has
not yet been approved by Council ; that cost to residents is unknown even
through there is proposed to be a one-third City participation in the
cost; that the proposed redwood header/gravel combination would not con-
tain water or help erosion; that the City Engineer has heard no feasible
alternative from the applicant; and that presently the only solution would
be curb and gutters. He stated that perhaps hillside areas should
be considered in a separate assessment district or as private streets,
but that the proposed solution would be difficult to maintain for the
�, City crews. He stated that the plans shows no flood protection for the
June 24, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 7
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
TTM 22401. (Continued)
houses along the east side of Girasol ; and that asphalt berms resembling
speed bumps have been installed in the area by City crews to divert
water.
Engineering Aide stated that the nearest curb and gutter to the project
is across the street and is a 6 inch roll curb on the south side of
Racquet Club for one lot on the southeast corner.
Planning Director stated that there is no existing curb and gutter on
the north edge of the street.
Chairman questioned the need for curb and gutters when there are none in
the area.
Engineering Manager stated that the water from the north would flow down
Girasol and from the west would flow down Racquet Club. He demonstrated
the water flow on the aerial map; and stated that there might not be
support for a street assessment district, which isthe reason Engineering
is proposing curbs and gutters for the subject project; and that the
recent sewer district was not supported by the residents but was forced
because of public health and was waived for some lots due to excessive
costs. He stated that damage is difficult to assess because there has
not been a significant rain storm since 1980, but there was erosion in
1980, and that the area is not the worst drainage area of the City.
Chairman stated that the Commission wished to waive the requirements in
order to keep the natural appearance of the area because curbs and
gutters can be ugly unless constructed correctly and may not help since
the improvements will be far from the drainage system. He stated that
alternatives by the applicant were not in the form of barriers or
curbing, but were surface elements which would not contain water; and
that a proposal such as rock rip-rap would require review because of
maintenance concerns for street crews.
Commissioner Olsen stated that curbs and gutters would form a chute and
increase water velocity.
Engineering Manager noted that the same velocity would also erode the
surface without curbs and gutters, and that rocks and dirt absorb water
now and extending the street system would add impacts and a hard surface
is needed for control .
Commissioner Olsen stated that unless there is a drainage discharge
point, the situation would be unacceptable with curbs and gutters; and
that he was worried about impacts to the residences on the south side of
Racquet Club Road.
Engineering Manager stated that there is a policy in the City to allow
retention of, a 10-year storm within the site so water velocity would not be
increased on the street surface and impact projects downstream; and that
to lessen impacts downstream requirements are sometimes made that down-
stream curb and gutters be installed with costs to be reimbursed to the
installer/developer by downstream developers in the future.
June 24, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 8
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
TTM 22401. (Continued)
Planning Director stated that the project cannot receive final approval
without satisfying the City Engineer that there are no impacts to down-
stream properties; and that greater impacts caused by development must
be mitigated. He stated that the project engineer can work with the
City for solutions, and that there is a discrepancy between function and
aesthetics in the project. He noted that in terms of accepting flows
from Girasol there would be an asphalt berm splaying out to direct water
to the new curb; that a special hillside standard could be explored with
the Engineering Division at a study session; and that colored curb that
would blend into the dirt color of the hillside could be used. He
stated that presently the edges of the streets are rippled because of
water erosion and that an assessment of $6,000 an acre for flood control
is required. He stated that the requirement to control flooding is
contained in the State Drainage law.
Chairman stated that the City will assess $2,000 a lot to solve the
overall drainage problem and then force the applicant to solve the
drainage problem.
Planning Director explained that there are two issues - one of the com-
munity and area and that the $2,000 assessment could be for the area,
and that if water were retained on site the fee would be reduced by the
amount expended to retain water.
Chairman stated that if the applicant is required to build curbs and
er, gutters downstream the fee should also be deleted.
Robert Smith, Mainiero Smith Engineers, 777 E. Tahquitz, #301, stated
that his firm has been caught in the middle between engineering and
aesthetic functions, and that curbs and gutters would be more func-
tional ; that there would be some erosion after storms; and that a
primary concern is to protect the pads from flooding in the final
grading plan. He stated that alternatives are as follows: No curbs and
gutters and edging the pavement with gravel ; straight faced curb and
gutter, colored or not; rolled curb which is more rural in appearance
but is functional although it does not carry as much water and is not
supported by staff; and an inverted section with a valley or ribbon
gutter down the center which is not a standard City section, but could
be considered for hillsides. He stated that the inverted section would
have a natural appearing pavement edge and solve the downstream condi-
tions. He questioned whether or not the applicant would be required to
develop downstream curbs and gutters because of the financial impact on
a fourteen lot subdivision. He stated that the street would look like
the inverted 'Y' of Baristo on the west side, but not have as much
water; that in a 'Y' there will always be water at the intersections and
a trickle of water in the street; and that it would be a difficult
installation from Girasol to Racquet Club, but could be done. He stated
that there would be less erosion on the sides of the streets since water
will be conveyed to the center not the edge; that the roll curb would be
of concrete; and that rock curbing is not as functional as concrete. He
stated that the curbing would run across driveways to connect to the
other curbs.
June 24, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 9
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
TTM 22401. (Continued)
Chris Mills, 121 S. Palm Canyon, project architect, stated that rock
curb is difficult to maintain; that there would be an erosion problem;
and that the rock would have to be built as a structure rather than a
curb. He stated that the 'Y' section has possibilities, but the
appearance will be that of a hard line; that asphalt does not create a
hard line; that the applicant cannot wait for staff to develop the 'Y'
section; that alternatives could be discussed at the study session of
July 15 for tentative approval of a system with the problem resolved
before final map approval .
Planning Director stated that a condition could be placed that the
detailed design of the drainage including curbs and gutters be reviewed
by the Commission and Council prior to final map approval , and that the
Council may view the situation differently and change the conditions.
Planner stated that the AAC recommends that the wall on the east side of
the property line be only as high as it needs to be to control flooding
and can be a rock wall ; and that the condition is part of the environ-
mental assessment.
There being no further appearances, Chairman declared the hearing
closed.
Mr. Mills stated that the developer would be willing to fund curbs and
gutters or post a bond for street improvements, but that the normal
method is through a covenant with the property instead of tying up funds
indefinitely. Planning Director stated that on new subdivisions, street
improvement bonds are required (not covenants) ; and that if a condition
of approval were developed that improvements be deferred for future
development of properties, the City requires cash or bonding set aside
for the future; and that bonding is not held more than 2 or 3 years.
Engineering Manager stated that most bonds are held for up to two years
usually in conjunction with phases since there would be an inflationary
factor if bonds were held longer. He stated that he understood
Commission's concern on aesthetics but that a 31� inch high roll curb
will only contain 3� inches of water, and that the roll curbs invite
parking over the curb. He stated that a special hillside section could
be developed if parking is not a problem.
Chairman suggested that a hillside curb and gutter section and policy be
developed to minimize their appearance. He stated that it would be a
shame to put in curbs and gutters in areas such as hillsides or in the
Mesa and Las Palmas areas. He suggested that an integral brown color be
used in the surfacing.
Engineering Manager stated that the City Engineer is open to
alternatives, and that other shapes and colors of concrete could be
explored.
Chairman directed that the study session of July 15 include discussion
on development of a section for hillside areas.
June 24, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 10
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
TTM 22401. (Continued)
Commissioner Neel stated that roll curbs are not acceptable, and that
the best solution should be a 'Y' section without curbs; and that the
sides should be dressed with Desert Gold gravel .
M/S/C (Whitney/Edgmon) ordering the filing of a Negative Declaration
subject to conditions except that specific requirements for curbs and
gutters be deferred pending review of hillside sections at a study
session based on the following findings and subject to the following
conditions:
Findings:
1. That the proposed single family subdivision is in harmony with the
General Plan, and is not detrimental to existing uses or to future
uses specifically permitted in the zone in which the proposed use
is to be located.
2. That the site is adequate in size and shape to accommodate the
use, including yards, setbacks, walls or fences, landscaping and
other features required in order to adjust said use to those
existing or permitted future uses of land i the neighborhood.
3. That the site for the proposed use relates to Gi rasol Avenue and
Racquet Club Road which are properly designed and, as conditioned,
improved to carry the type and quantity of traffic to be generated
by the proposed use.
4. That the conditions to be imposed and shown on the approved site
plan are deemed necessary to protect the public health, safety and
general welfare.
Conditions•
€ngineering Division
1. See/memo dated March 24, 1987.
2. That the lots shall be subject to architectural review.
3. That all recommendations of the Development Committee shall be
complied with.
4. That grading shall be for street placement and construction only.
5. That all Mitigation Measures of the Environmental Assessment shall
be complied with.
6. A six-foot high block wall shall be constructed along the easterly
boundary of the site.
7. An A.M.M. shall be submitted for substandard area and dimensions.
8. That garages be located at the lower elevations for lots on the
east side of Girasol .
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
TTM 22401. (Continued)
9. That all right-of-way areas be kept free of boulders, rocks and
slopes.
10. That streets shall have the minimum dimensions required for hill-
side collector and cul-de-sac.
11. That Security Ordinance 1101 be complied with.
CASE 5.0425-PD-186 & CASE 5.0444-GPA. Application by GEORGE JELKS for a
Planned Development is ric in lieu of Change of Zone from R-G-A(8) to
R-4 and an initiation by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS for General Plan
Amendment including "Residential-Medium 8" to "Residential High 43/30",
relocation of a specialized parks symbol , and deletion of a high school
site for property on Sunrise Way between East Arenas/E. Baristo Roads
to allow construction of a 127 retirement facility, R-G-A(8) Zone,
Section 14.
(Environmental Assessment/Action. )
Recommendation: That the Commission order the preparation of a Draft
Negative Declaration; give tentative approval to Case 5.0425-PD-186
subject to conditions and Case 5.0444-GPA; and continue the items to
July 8.
Planner (Green) described the site and stated that the City leases a
portion of it from the school district including the Tennis Center; that
the "H" symbol will be deleted since it is no longer applicable
because of the underlying uses; that the Parks and Recreation Commission
proposes an enlargement of the Tennis Center in the future; and the
specialty park symbol should be placed on the Tennis Center site. He
stated that the M-8 section should be changed to H-43/30 and that the
worst case density would be 70 units or 153 persons for multi-
residential development and could be less if the area is built in second
homes (53 units - 110 residents) ; and that the area will possibly become
mixed multi-family and hotel uses and will not reach the maximum
density. He stated that traffic problems will be mitigated by a left
turn pocket at the intersection of Baristo and Sunrise for east and west
bound traffic and a striping lane provided; and the sewer impact will be
mitigated by payment of the sewer impact mitigation fee. He noted that
the school district has expressed concern over the specialized park
designation feeling that the park symbol will reduce the land value and
has asked for reconsideration of the recommendation and for continuance.
He stated that staff recommends ordering the preparation of a Draft
Negative Declaration, tentative approval subject to conditions and con-
tinuation to July 8 for both cases.
He explained that the reasons for the specialized park "S" symbol on the
Tennis Center site is for flexibility if the facility is expanded in the
future and there are 9 acres of the 15 acre site which will be
designated "S".
June 24, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 12
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0425 & 5.0444. (Continued)
Commissioner Curtis stated that the Commission is concerned about
keeping open space and not increasing density and questioned the reason
for the increased density.
Planner stated that the presentation is to accommodate the subject
application and that staff had originally recommended denial because of
setting a precedent but density cannot be increased on the General Plan
for special sites, especially like the subject site which is in an area
of land surrounded by a high residential designation. He stated that
the site has had a General Plan designation that remained unchanged
while much round it has changed, that the "S" symbol was incorrectly
placed; that the "H" (high school ) symbol does not relate to the area
and that the R-4 is a problem as well .
Commissioner Whitney stated that Commission originally denied the
project because of proposed density increase, but now more land is being
increased in density and wondered how the Tennis Center can expand when
it is on a lease.
Planner explained that staff recommended denial but the Commission
directed the staff to amend the General Plan. He stated that the staff
felt that there should be a larger area designated for a specialized
park because of the recommendation by the Parks and Recreation
Commission for expansion of the Center.
Discussion followed on the 43/30 designation on the M-8 portion.
Planning Director explained that 43/30 designation does not affect the
"R" (Resort Overlay) areas. He stated that the school district lease is
to the year 2008. Chairman stated that staff is trying to conform the
General Plan and zoning, and that the Medium 8 designation is R-G-A(8)
which will be deleted from the block.
David MacEwan, Palm Springs School District, Facilities Planner, spoke
in opposition to the General Plan Amendment, stating that the amendment
is creating an open space area for the park and may result in future
changes to the zoning which could be construed as a "taking" of property
because property values would lower significantly since development
would be precluded on the site. He stated that the school district had
a lengthy lease with the City (to approximately 2005) which has terms
favorable to the City.
Chairman stated that there is no way to know if the City will buy the
land at the end of the lease, but the land will be have to be bought or
given back to the school district and would not be a "taking".
Mr. MacEwan explained that a change in the General Plan could be
followed by change of zoning during the period and result in a loss of
land value, that the school is protecting its vested interest and the
flexibility in the General Plan and Zoning Ordinance to have control
over development; and that the open space designation will preclude
,,, development.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0425 & 5.0444. (Continued)
City Attorney explained that the open space designation which changes
the value of the land and "taking" occurs when regulations or legisla-
tion removes all viable use and that a lesser use does not constitute a
"taking". He stated that the property owner does not have a vested
right on the property at any certain time, that it is a valid concern by
the district, but whether or not it is a "taking" is difficult to
answer; and that if a "taking" is found compensation would follow.
Commissioner Whitney stated that if the land were hers and rezoned, she
would be-upset; and that she did not feel right about the situation.
Planning Director stated that zone changes on school district property
are not being discussed, but there is no way to insure that zoning will
always remain as it is and that many areas of City were rezoned in 1973
without permission of the owner in an effort to reduce population of the
City; and that it is a State mandate that zoning be consistent with the
general plan. He stated that the Council can not tie the hands of a
future Council in terms of rezoning the property; and that there could
be an overlay of higher or medium designation. He stated that the
current lessee of the Tennis Center has proved there is a market for an
organized, well-run complex; has advertised to various markets to
attract customers; and has proved the center can be successful and can
be expanded under a lease with the school district.
City Attorney stated that the City could expand the specialty park
designation to include all of the property that the City has under
lease. Commissioner Hough suggested that the leased area acquire the
"S" overlay over 43/30 for the balance of the lease and that the "S"
designation be deleted at the end of that time.
Planning Director stated in the future if the school district wants to
sell the land and there is an "S" designation over a 43/30 designation
and the specialty park is gone, the General Plan could be amended.
Mr. MacEwan stated that the proposal would alleviate the school
district's concerns.
Commissioner Whitney explained that she found it interesting that the
expansion is being considered when less then a year ago negotiations
were being held on the lease for the school district to obtain revenue
for another school site.
Planning Director stated that the lease negotiations have been resolved.
There being to further appearances, the hearing was closed.
Planning Director stated that the law is more specific now regarding
slicing through property with generalized lines; that the Tennis Center
was not in existence when the "S" was placed; and that the "H" was
placed when the Continuation School (now gone) was instituted.
M/S/C (Curtis/Hough) ordering preparation of a Draft Negative
Declaration, tentatively approving the General Plan Amendment as
June 24, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 14
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0425 & 5.0444. (Continued)
follows: the "S" moved to the western side of the block; that the "H"
be deleted; the M-8 designation changed to H43/30: ,
M/S/C (Hough/Edgmon) ordering preparation of a Draft Negative
Declaration and tentatively approving PD-186 subject to conditions.
Note: Both cases were continued to July 8 for final approval and
Commission response to written comments on the Draft Negative
Declaration.
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Continued)
CASE 5.0446-MISC. Planning Commission discussion of development of an archi-
tectural theme for the downtown area, C-B-D Zone, Section 15.
Planning Director discussed an article in the California Planner
magazine entitled, "The Making of Anywhere" and stated that there is an
analogy between the article and the beginning of a Council interest
toward mandating "Romance Spanish" as a downtown architectural theme in
Palm Springs; that the point of the article is that a town can damage
its existing architectural culture and heritage by trying to transplant
styles from other locations that do not relate to the underlying design
of the town. He suggested that discussion be continued to the July 15
study session and stated that some of the Council are interested in
developer Wessman's plan to develop a "Romance Spanish" theme for his
project on the southeast corner of Tahquitz-McCallum and Palm Canyon and
also felt that the plans for the Liebling building across the street did
not compare to the Wessman development. He stated that the Wessman
project has charm and that part of the charm of the "Romance Spanish"
theme is open space and plazas and fountains, but there is no parking on
the Wessman project. He stated that the Wessman development would lose
much of its charm if there were a parking structure on top of it, and
that there will be a parking structure in the Liebling project. He
stated that he would take Commission recommendations to the Council .
Chairman stated that he shared staff concerns about the "Romance
Spanish" look and that the Wyndham Hotel is an example of the theme and
is not attractive. He stated that taking an existing building like the
Liebling Center and remodeling it in "Romance Spanish" should not be
done unless the center were demolished and constructed anew, that there
are many good examples of "desert" architecture done in various styles,
and that the "desert" style is a "feeling" not necessarily a style, that
imposing red tile roofs on all projects is not acceptable, and that a
town should not be "themed".
Commissioner Curtis asked why there should be a Spanish theme since the
Palm Springs heritage is Indian in influence. He stated that many
people feel that the City has lost its character because of inadequate
designs and approving architecture that is borderline in appearance and
that the Commission should insist that the appearance and aura of a
project be "Palm Springs" in character.
June 24, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 15
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Continued)
CASE 5.0446. (Continued)
Chairman stated that Santa Fe, for example, which has much ambience,
does not allow curbs and gutters; has much rainfall and that drainage is
provided by tile culverts under driveways.
Commissioner Neel commented that the natural drainage is already in
place and only has to be followed.
Discussion continued on the "Romance Spanish" theme. Planning Director
stated that it would be difficult to duplicate the look of the old Palm
Springs buildings because of changes in codes, that the look of old
Mexico is difficult to achieve and that Ric Service, a former chairman
of the Planning Commission, will be showing slides of the "old Mexico"
look at a future study session; that not all design can achieve great
heights and that there is a point at which the City has to let the
developer do the best he can; but that the downtown is a special area
and should not have minimal architecture. He stated that the Liebling
Center could be effective if the parking lot were removed and part of
the building removed to form a plaza; that the Wessman project will not
have parking and the parking problem for the project will be left for
the City to solve.
Note: Discussion item only. No action was taken.
DISCUSSION. Planning Commission discussion on survey questionnaire followup
o bus tour.
Planning Director stated that the questionnaire answers will be reviewed
at the July 15 study session. He requested that Commissioners complete
the questionnaires and return them to the Planning Division for review
by staff before the study session.
CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS. Update of City Council actions.
Zoning on the East Side of Gene Autry Trail . Council feels the resort
commercial designation would e vi able z—oni ng. Staff has been directed
to contact property owners for their support.
CASE 5.0400 - ZTA. Council will adopt the Zoning Ordinance as an
interim ordinance as of the July 1 meeting. The ordinance will be
refined over the next six months.
COMMISSION/STAFF REPORTS OR REQUESTS.
- July 15 Study Session Agenda. Agenda items will include historic areas,
and hillside curs and gutters (City Engineer Richard McCoy will be
invited to attend).
Chairman suggested that the Commission give guidelines for the hillsides
and historic areas such as flat street edges and "V" sections on
residential streets; and the use of integral desert colored mix on the
outside edge with Desert Gold gravel on the top; and stated that the
combination should produce a very neat-looking gravel road, which will
carry water and not wash away.
June 24, 1987 PC MINUTES Page 16
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Continued)
ADDED STARTERS. (Determination of eligibility for consideration. )
None.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Chairman adjourned the
meeting at 4:00 p.m.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
Council Chamber, City Hall
July 8, 1987
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1987 - 1988
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to date
Larry Lapham, Chairman X 1 0
Hugh Curtis X 1 0
Martha Edgmon X 1 0
Brent Hough X 1 0
Earl Neel X 1 0
Gary Olsen X 1 0
Barbara Whitney X 1 0
Staff Present
Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney
Douglas Evans, Planner
Robert Green, Planner
Dave Forcucci, Zoning Enforcement Officer
Margo Williams, Planner
John Terell , Redevelopment Planner
Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee - July 6, 1987
• Chris Mills, Chairman Absent: Martha Edgmon
Tom Doczi Mike Buccino
Brent Hough
William Johnson
Will Kleindienst
Barbara Whitney
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
M/S/C (Olsen/Hough) approving minutes of June 24, 1987, with the following
correction:
TTM 22401, pp. 10 & 11. Substitute the following conditions for those in the
June 24 minutes:
1. That the lots shall be subject to architectural review.
2. That all recommendations of the Development Committee shall be complied
with except as amended below.
3. That all Mitigation Measures of the Environmental Assessment shall be
complied with as follows:
a. The project shall comply with Chapter 70 of the Uniform Building
Code (Wind erosion control measures).