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Council Chamber, City Hall
February 11, 1987
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1986 - 1987
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to date
Larry Lapham, Chairman X 13 0
Hugh Curtis - 11 2
Martha Edgmon X 3 0
Brent Hough X 7 0
Earl Neel X 10 3
Gary Olsen X 10 3
Barbara Whitney X 10 1
Staff Present
Marvin D.-Roos, Planning Director
Douglas Evans, Planner
Robert Green, Planner
Margo Williams, Planner
Carol Vankeeken, Planner
Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney
Dave Forcucci , Zoning Enforcement
Mimi Timbrook, Zoning Enforcement
Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee - TUESDAY, February 10, 1987
` Chris Mills, Chairman Absent: Mike Buccino
William Johnson
Gary Olsen
Tom Doczi
Barbara Whitney
Brent Hough
Will Kleindienst
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
M/S/C (Olsen/Neel ; Curtis absent) approving minutes of January 28, 1987 with
the following corrections:
Page 17, third paragraph, CASE 3.960, motion was as follows:
M/S/C (Hough/Edgmon; Whitney absent; Curtis dissented) approving the base
colors of the signs as submitted and approving a field trip with staff and
architect to review and establish a color scheme for all , four sides of the
mall .
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Correction: Case 3.960 (Continued)
Clarification of motion: That the field trip to approve colors of the
remaining three sides of the mall be postponed until the north side (the side
facing Tahquitz-McCallum) is painted. Note: The Planning Commission approved
the color scheme for the north side at its January 14 meeting.
Page 18, last two paragraphs CASE 20.100 should be revised to read as follows:
Planner (Evans) stated that the zone change request is the largest one ever
proposed for Riverside County and affects property adjacent to Palm Hills. He
stated it is consistent or more restrictive in zoning than Palm Springs and
that staff recommends approval and opposes exclusion of the Palm Canyon area.
He stated that the Andreas Cove area was not included in the zone change.
M/S/C (Curtis/Olsen; Whitney absent) requesting that the Riverside County
Planning Department approve the zone change, and that the Commission is con-
cerned about excluding Palm Canyon from this study (Sections 2 and 11) .
Report of Postin2 of Agenda. Agenda available for public access at City Hall
Lobby counter, Planning Division counter, and Library Reference Room, by 1:30
p.m. , Friday, February 6, 1987.
CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
M/S/C (Whitney/Hough; Curtis absent) taking the following actions:
CASE 3.0156 (MINOR) Continued. Application by HENRY BOOKSPAN for architec-
tural approval of revised elevations for addition to office at hotel
(Estrella Inn), 415 S. Belardo Road, R-3 Zone, Section 15.
Approved subject to the following conditions:
1. That the roof continue across the length of the building with a
hip end.
2. That colors and materials match existing building.
3. That the tile match existing.
CASE 5.0391-CUP. Application by CHRIS MILLS for Moe Salem for architectural
approval of a monument sign and revisions to building colors for service
station remodel on Indian Avenue between Saturnino Road/Ramon Road, C-2
Zone (I.L. ) , Section 14.
Approved colors as submitted.
Approved sign subject to the following condition: That an alternate
background color of black (white proposed) is an appropriate substitu-
tion subject to the architect's discretion.
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CONSENT ACTION AGENDA (CONTINUED)
CASE 3.232. Application by MIKE LATULIPPE for architectural approval of land-
scape plans for an industrial/office building on Valdivia Way between
Chia/Tachevah Roads, M-1-P Zone, Section 7.
Restudy noting the following:
1. That Gazania Mitza Yellow be substituted for Star Jasmine.
2. That Bougainvillea and Gazania be added to the street frontage.
3. That the planting shall be less formal - groupings and non-linear
forms are encouraged.
4. That vines shall be added to the buildings.
5. That informal mounding shall be introduced (show contours) on the
frontage.
6. That an oleander hedge shall be introduced around the rear of the
building.
CASE 3.0163 (MINOR) . Application by TOZIER & ASSOCIATES for architectural
approval of automatic teller at the First Trust Bank, 441 S. Canyon
Drive between Ramon Road/Baristo Road, C-B-D Zone, Section 15.
Restudy noting the following:
1. That the canopy shall be omitted.
2. That the teller shall be better integrated into the facade.
3. That planters shall be added on either side of the teller.
4. That two bands of special paving (concrete) shall be added on
either side of the tile walk.
5. That the colored bands shall be eliminated from the teller.
CASE 3.0097 (MINOR). Application by D. CHRISTIAN AND ASSOCIATES for archi-
tectural approval of revised details for showcases for commercial com-
plex on Tahquitz Way between Calle Alvarado and Calle El Segundo, C-1AA
Zone, Section 14.
Approved as submitted.
TIME EXTENSION-CASE 2.558. Application by GEORGE MONTGOMERY for a 12-month
time extension of architectural approval for a single-family hillside
residence on Cahuilla Hills Drive, R-1-A Zone, Section 27.
Approved a twelve-month time extension with the new expiration date to
be February 26, 1988, subject to original conditions of approval and the
condition that trash be removed and the lot barricated to prohibit ac-
cess.
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CONSENT ACTION AGENDA (CONTINUED)
TIME EXTENSION-CASE 2.558. (Continued)
Note: Planning Director recommended a time extension instead of
removing improvements as was originally conditioned since it would be
more disruptive to remove the improvements than to leave the site in its
present condition. He stated that an additional condition should be
that trash be removed from the site and barricades placed to prohibit
access.
TIME EXTENSION - CASES 5.0315-CUP & 3.582. Application by ALFRED WILKES for a
-monthtime extension for a con itional use permit and architectural
approval for a condominium resort hotel on Baristo Road between Avenida
Caballeros Road/Sunrise Way, R-4 Zone (I.L. ) , Section 14.
Approved a twelve-month time extension with a new expiration date for
Cases 3.582 and 5.0315-CUP to be 2-11-88 subject to all original con-
ditions of approval .
Planning Director stated that the site is not one that is recommended as
a hotel site and the location is on Baristo Road behind Caballeros
Estates.
TRIBAL COUNCIL COMMENTS
After consideration of the recommendations of the Indian Planning
Commission, the Tribal Council approved the granting of a 12-month time
extension for Conditional Use Permit Case 5.0315 and Architectural
Approval Case 3.582.
CASE 3.0162 (MINOR) (Ref. Case 5.0123-CUP) . Application by WILLIAM
KLEINDIENST for KPSI Radio for arch itecturaf approval of an addition to
the existing KPSI Radio building on Tahquitz-McCallum Way, R-2 Zone,
Section 13.
Planner (Williams) stated that the addition is minor but reduces the
amount of open space in the project which had been allowed to have a
surface of stamped concrete, as a portion of the open space and that the
site is 21,000 sq. ft.
Planning Director explained that the addition has no visual effect on
the building mass.
Planner explained that the location of the existing satellite dish will
not be affected by the proposed addition.
M/S/C (Olsen/Edmon: Hough abstained; Curtis absent) approving the
application subject to the following condition: That all recommend-
ations of the Development Committee be implemented.
CASE 20.102/TPM 21921 (SPHERE-OF-INFLUENCE) . Initiation by RIVERSIDE COUNTY
or subdivision for industrial commercial purposes at Indian Avenue at
Garnet and the Sphere-of-Influence.
Planning Director described the location of the map as the intersection
of Interstate 10 and Indian Avenue, noted that the development is
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CONSENT ACTION AGENDA (CONTINUED)
CASE 20.102/TPM 21921 (SPHERE-OF-INFLUENCE). (Continued)
indicative of development proposals in the County, and that staff has
concerns about substandard elements of the proposal . He stated that the
City recommends landscaping along the freeway, and also that the lots
should have a minimum frontage of 200 feet.
Planner (Evans) recommended the lot at the corner of Garnet and Indian
not be subdivided to avoid the hazards of driveways accessing to the off
ramp and the bridge and that all access be off Garnet, that overhead
utilities be undergrounded, that final development plans for structures
submitted for City review, that blowsand measures be implemented, that a
visual buffer (wall and landscaping) be placed along the west and north
boundaries, and that the remainder parcel be evaluated as to an illegal
land fill . He stated also that the broad range of uses permitted such
as building heights, yard requirements, and other property development
standards that conflict with the City standards should be reviewed.
M/S/C (Neel/Hough; Curtis absent) approving staff's recommendations as
follows and directing that the recommendations be sent to the County
Planning Commission and Board of Supervisors:
1. That Lots 1, 2 and 3 not be subdivided as proposed unless a
specific development plan is submitted. The basis of this request
is the provisions of the Designed Neighborhood Shopping Center (C-
D-N) provisions of the Palm Springs Zoning Ordinance. City site
area requirements for this type of facility is a minimum of five
I" acres. Subdivision as proposed will encourage strip commercial
development and multiple driveways adjacent to a major freeway
off-ramp. Ingress and egress on Indian Avenue should be pro-
hibited.
2. That due to the depth of lots 4-20 an increased width to a minimum
of 200 feet should be considered. The increased lot width and
area will encourage superior site design, allow greater
flexibility, and encourage better land uses.
3. That the subdivider should be required to design, construct and
maintain a substantial visual buffer along the west and northerly
property boundaries. Such a buffer should screen the proposed
development from I-10 and consider grade differences, landscape,
walls, wind conditions and general maintenance.
4. All existing and proposed overhead utilities should be under-
grounded per Western Coachella Valley Plan (W.C.V.P. ) and City
requirements.
5. That all subsequent development proposals should be submitted to
the City for review and comment. Pursuant to the W.C.V.P. the
City requests that building elevations, site plans, landscape
plans, exterior lighting, and colors and materials be submitted to
the City. All mechanical equipment should be screened on all
sides.
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CASE 20.102/TPM 21921 (Continued).
6. That a b owsand wind erosion program be instituted immediately due
to prior grading and disturbance.
7. That the remainder parcel be evaluated as to an illegal landfill
which was created during demolition of on-site buildings and site
grading.
8. That the City has severe reservations about the broad range of
uses permitted, allowable building height, yard requirements and
other property development standards which conflict with City
standards.
CASE 3.0151 (MINOR). Request by B. DOBRIS for reconsideration of motion for
denial of partial balcony conversion on Los Patos Drive in new Horizons
condominium complex, R-G-A(8) Zone, Section 29. (Ref. Case 2.807-HOA. )
Chairman explained that a Commissioner voting in favor of denial would
be required to make a motion for reconsideration of the case and that
Commissioners Edgmon, Hough and Olsen voted for denial .
Planning Director explained that the applicant wants to address the full
Commission and has requested a two week continuance for a full comple-
ment of Commissioners.
B. Dobris, 2413 Los Patos, the applicant, requested a chance to address
the full Commission and requested continuance until March 11.
M/S/C (Neel/Olsen; Curtis absent) continuing the item to March 11.
Note: Later in the meeting Commissioner Edgmon and Whitney indicated
that they may attend the Planning Commissioner's seminar in Sacramento
on March 11 and would not be at the Commission meeting. Planning
Director stated that Mr. Dobris would be informed of the fact.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
CASE 5.0400-ZTA (Continued) . Initiation by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS for
revisions to the Zoning Ordinance (all sections).
(Commission response to written comments on the Draft Negative
Declaration; final approval . )
Recommendation: That the case be continued to March 11, per Tribal
Council request.
Planning Director stated that staff was prepared to spend time in
reviewing the details of the revision, but that the Tribal Council con-
sultant requested a one month delay since the Tribal Council has not
been able to review thoroughly the changes to the Zoning Text because of
Indian land developments. He stated that a delay will allow staff to
compile the revisions into a single document for final action on March
11. He noted that a local architect has requested that the Commission
speak on of the effect of the the Zoning Text on urban design aspects,
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (CONTINUED)
CASE 5.04 00-ZTA. (Continued)
but that the architect will be late and that the Commission may wish to
discuss urban design guidelines for Tahquitz and downtown with the
architectural community in another forum.
Chairman declared the hearing open; there being no appearances the
hearing was closed.
Discussion followed on continuing the item to March 25 because of the
Indian request for continuance and also because two of the members may
attend the Commissioners conference in Sacramento and will not attend
the March 11 meeting.
M/S/C (Neel/Hough; Curtis absent) continuing the item to March 25.
TRIBAL COUNCIL COMMENTS
As noted in previous memorandum the City Planning Commission, the Tribal
Planning Consultant has received and is reviewing drafts of the Revised
Zoning Ordinance, Revised Ordinance No. 779 ("Indian Land Ordinance")
and Revised Property Development Standards for the "M-I" and "M-I-P"
Zones. The latter two items were received on January 5 and January 26,
1987, respectively.
In order to complete the review of this considerable quantity of
material and provide time for a follow-on meeting with Planning Staff
prior to the Planning Commission's action, the Tribal Council is
requesting a final continuance of this case to the Commission's meeting
of March 11. Your cooperation and assistance in this matter has been
appreciated.
CASE 5.0424-CUP (Continued) . Application by the MARRIOTT CORPORATION for a
Conditional Use Permit to allow construction of a 148 unit 3-story
hotel , with an overall range of 46 feet on the east side of Hermosa
Drive between Tahquitz Way/Andreas Road, R-4VP, and C-1-AA Zone (I.L. ),
Section 14.
(Commission response to written comments on Draft Negative Declaration.
No comments received. )
Recommendation: That the Commission continue the case to February 25.
Planning Director stated that the architects have not resubmitted the
restudy of the designs and that staff recommends continuance to February
25. He noted that members of the audience wishing to review the plans
may leave their names with staff and they will be contacted when the
plans are submitted.
Chairman declared the hearing open; there being to appearances the
hearing was closed.
M/S/C (Edgmon/Olsen; Curtis absent) continuing the item to February 25.
TRIBAL COUNCIL COMMENTS
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (CONTINUED)
CASE 5.0424-CUP. (Continued)
This Case was considered by the Tribal Council on January 27, 1987. It
was noted that the Project complied with all sections of the City' s
Zoning Ordinance with the exception of the side setback along Hermosa
Drive. The proposed setback of 32 feet did comply with Ordinance No.
779 ("Indian Land Ordinance") .
After consideration of the recommendations of the Indian Planning
Commission, the Tribal Council took the following actions:
1. Approved the filing of a Negative Declaration with the mitigation
measures noted in the Environmental Assessment.
2. Reiterated its prior action of January 27 to concur with findings
contained in Planning Staff report dated January 28, 1987, and to
approve the granting of the Conditional Use Permit subject to the
conditions recommending by Planning Staff.
TPM 21744. Application by CASA VERDE ASSOCIATES for a Tentative Parcel Map to
combine parcels into one for property located on the northeast corner of
Amado Road/Hermosa Drive, R-4 Zone (I.L. ) , Section 14.
(Given Environmental Assessment previously in conjunction with TTM
14009. )
Recommendation: That the Commission approve the map subject to the con-
dition that all recommendations of the Development Committee be met.
Planner (Williams) stated that the application is for a lot con-
solidation which is a condition of approval of an apartment complex on
the site. She stated that the consolidation will combine two parcels
into one and that the consolidation will not affect the density of the
complex.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
N. Pask, President of the Greenhouse Homeowners Association, requested
that the lot consolidation be denied, that the complex be revised to
condominiums as was approved originally, and stated that the homeowners
of The Greenhouse are in opposition to an apartment complex in the
middle of low density condominium.
B. Kaye, 1252 E. Andreas, Palm Regency Condominiums, requested that the
Commission not allow the apartments to be built because the units will
not help the neighborhood. He asked if the residents had any rights
regarding the issue.
Planning Director stated that the issue before the Commission is whether
or not the line is removed from the middle of the property, and has
nothing to do with the type of development. He stated that the
developer has a choice of building either condominiums, apartments, or a
hotel by right of zone in the R-4 Zone, and this parcel 's density was
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (CONTINUED)
TPM 21744. (Continued)
raised from 8 d.u./acre to 29 d.u./acre in the Indian Zone changes of
1981. He stated that he would have to do some research, but thought
that staff had recommended that the subject property be left 8/acre and
that at the time The Greenhouse and La Mancha projects were built. He
stated that unless the developer wishes to build to a lower density and
not have apartments, there is little that can be done and with the
demand on Indian leases to perform trendy development (which is at the
present time apartments) will take place. He stated that the issue is
out of the City's hands and not a Commission concern.
Chairman explained again that the developer has the right to develop his
property as either condominiums or apartments, and that the issue being
reviewed is that of consolidation of lots, which is a technical
procedure. He explained that whether or not the apartments are low or
moderate rent is not within the Commission's purview.
Mr. Kaye responded that development remains a long time and requested
consideration of the neighbors' views.
Chairman again stated that the issue is only that of consolidation of
parcels.
Mr. Kaye suggested that the City discuss the issue with the developer.
He stated that there is a moral responsibility involved.
There being no further appearances Chairman declared the hearing closed.
Commissioner Whitney asked the reason for the Commission being asked to
approve the combination of lots.
Planning Director explained that if the Commission denies the map,
although there is no reason to do so, the site plan might be altered,
but not the development type density, and that consolidation is a legal
requirement.
Chairman again explained that the application is a technical
"housecleaning" item, not related to the land use issue.
Planning Director stated that the developer could build the same number
of units whether or not the line were deleted.
Planner explained that the Development Committee conditions are
conditions recommended by City staff, including Fire, Engineering,
Building and Planning.
M/S/C (Neel/Olsen; Curtis absent; Whitney dissented) approving TPM 21744
based on the following findings and subject to the following conditions:
FINDINGS
1. That the proposed division is consistent with the City's General
Plan and Zoning Ordinance.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (CONTINUED)
TPM 21744. (Continued)
' 2. That the site is adequate in size and shape to accommodate uses
allowed in the R-4 Zone.
3. That the proposed subdivision is not detrimental to the public
health, safety or welfare.
CONDITIONS
That conditions of the Development Committee dated January 27, 1987 be
implemented.
TRIBAL COUNCIL COMMENTS
It was noted that a Negative Declaration was filed for the original
Tentative Tract Map (Tract No. 14009), and that the Tentative Parcel Map
is being filed to facilitate the development of a previously approved
apartment development.
After consideration of the recommendations of the Indian Planning
Commission, the Tribal Council took the following action:
Concurred with the findings contained in Planning Staff report dated
February 11, 1987, and approved Tentative Parcel Map No. 2144 subject
to Development Committee conditions dated January 27, 1987.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS R. Rosenberg, 474 N. Hermosa, Greenhouse Condominiums, stated that he
had never received notice of a hearing on the project, although a long
time resident of the City, that evidently the decision of building
apartments has been made, and asked the appropriate time for Greenhouse
East homeowners to comment on whether or not apartments or condominiums
should be built.
Chairman explained that there is a density limit on the land, but
whether of not condominiums or apartments are built is strictly the
developers choice, and if the developer changes his mind and builds at
the same density, he can build apartments. He stated that if a developer
builds by right of zone, no public hearing is required.
Planning Director stated that a project on the property received a
public hearing during the past year when the applicant requested a
density transfer from the Casa Verde complex and much citizen input was
received. He stated that the applicant withdrew the application and
reduced the density from 292 to 258 units which is the density by right
of zone, and therefore no public hearings were required.
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MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS. No report was given.
COMMISSION REPORTS OR REQUESTS.
APPROVAL OF MAPS IN RELATION TO PROJECT APPROVAL (REF. TPM
Commissioner Whitney requested an explanation of approving a
pr ject first and a map later.
Planning Director stated that an application was not submitted for a map
at the same time as the project was submitted, and that there is not
requirement for all of the procedures to begin at the same time. He
stated that the Development Committee conditions include a "boiler
plate" condition to file a parcel map and that until a year ago there
was no State law mandating Public Hearings for maps. He stated that the
City was one of the few jurisdictions in the area which did not hold
Public Hearings for maps in the past, and that one of the problems
regarding the project is that the project can be submitted at the
density allowed by right of zone and the map filed later (requiring a
public hearing). Discussion followed with the City Attorney regarding
the processing of the project. City Attorney stated that he assumed
that the map was approved for condominium purposes and that action at
the meeting would be to undo that action. Planning Director stated that
the original condominium map was never recorded.
Commissioner Whitney stated that she could see no reason to approve a
project and then conform it by removing lines.
Discussion continued. Planning Director stated that in Section 14, maps
are necessary to obtain a truly defined parcel , and that a public
hearing is required although in the past action would have been taken
without a public hearing. He stated that if a public hearing is desired
by the Commission on the Casa Verde project, the Ordinance would have to
be changed to state that projects such as Case Verde which are presently
allowed by right of zone require public hearings. He stated that
criteria would need to be developed to do this, and that the topic could
be discussed at a study session, but that currently the project is
allowed by right of zone, whether or not it is on one parcel or more.
PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR STUDY SESSION, FEBRUARY 18, 1987.
Agenda items will include review of selected General Plan policies
(Commissioner Whitney's request) and review of handicap standards of the
Ci ty.
Note: Chairman suggested that an entire study session be devoted to
review of the Zoning Ordinance (at a future date).
ADDED STARTERS. (Determination of eligibility for consideration. ) No action
necessary since there were no added starters.
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ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT ITEMS
CASE 5.0436-ZTA/CZ. Initiation by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS of a zoning text
amendment to establish an "R" Resort Combining Zone for the purpose of
protecting those properties citywide which have the potential for
providing resort commercial uses from certain incompatible uses, and to
consider a change of zone to place the combining zone on certain
properties citywide.
M/S/C (Hough/Neel ; Curtis absent) ordering the preparation of a Draft
Negative Declaration and continuing the case to February 25 for public
hearing.
ADMINISTRATIVE NOTES
American Planners Association (APA) DINNER MEETING FEBRUARY 19. Stanley
Goodkin, Real Estate Consultant and Researcher, will give -a-talk at the
APA dinner meeting which begins at 6:00 p.m. at Las Casuelas Terrazas on
February 19.
COMMISSIONER PLAQUES. Four retiring Commissioners plaques will be given
to Commissioners at a future Planning Commission meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Chairman adjourned the
meeting at 2:45 p.m.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
Council Chamber, City Hall
February 25, 1987
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1986 - 1987
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to date
Larry Lapham, Chairman X 14 0
Hugh Curtis X 12 2
Martha Edgmon X 4 0
Brent Hough X 8 0
Earl Neel X 11 3
Gary Olsen X 11 3
Barbara Whitney X 11 1
Staff Present
Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director
Douglas Evans, Planner
Robert Green, Planner
Richard Patenaude, Planner
Margo Williams, Planner
Carol Vankeeken, Planner
Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney
Dave Forcucci , Zoning Enforcement
Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee - February 23, 1987
Chris Mills, Chairman Absent: Mike Buccino
William Johnson
Gary Olsen
Tom Doczi
Barbara Whitney
Brent Hough
Will Kleindienst
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
M/S/C (Curtis/Hough) approving the minutes of February 11 , 1987, as submitted.