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Council Chamber, City Hall
December 10, 1986
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL IF-Y 1986 - 1987
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to date
Larry Lapham, Chairman X 9 0
Hugh Curtis - 8 1
Brent Hough X 3 0
Earl Neel - 6 3
Gary Olsen X 7 2
Barbara Whitney X 6 1
Staff Present
Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director
Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney
Carol Vankeeken, Planner
Douglas Evans, Planner
Robert Green, Planner
Richard Patenaude, Planner
Margo Williams, Planner
Dave Forcucci , Zoning Enforcement
Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee - December 8, 1986
William Johnson
Chris Mills
Gary Olsen
Tom Doczi
Barbara Whitney
Will Kleindienst
Mike Buccino
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
M/S/C (Olsen/Hough; Neel/Curtis absent) approving minutes of November 26,
1986, with the following correction:
Page 3, Case 3.960, second paragraph. 18' should be changed to 12' .
There were no Tribal Council comments.
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CONSENT AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
M/S/C (Hough/Olsen; Neel/Curtis absent) taking the following actions:
CASE 5.0391-CUP. Application by C. MILLS for M. Salem for architectural
approval of final landscape plans for gas station remodel on Indian
Avenue between Saturnino Road/Ramon Road, C-2 Zone, (I.L. ) , Section 14.
Approved as submitted.
CASE 3.983. Application by ROBERT STEELE for architectural approval of final
an scape plans for a tire and brake shop on Oasis Road between Del Sol
Road/N. Indian Avenue, M-1 Zone, Section 34.
Restudy noting the following:
1. That the shrub plan be modified to include different species, more
material , and groupings of plants and boulders.
2. That a colored plan be submitted.
CASE 3.0148 (MINOR) . Application by F. HATHAWAY & SONS for architectural
approval o revised exterior materials for building at 1500 S. Palm
Canyon Drive, C-1 Zone, Section 23.
Application denied. (Recommend that natural stone be used. )
CASE 3.576. Application by HAL LACY for Stan Overton for architectural
approval of landscape and irrigation plans for single family residence
on Milo Drive between Sanborn Way/Racquet Club Road, R-1-B Zone, Section
3.
Approved subject to the following condition: That a substitute species
for pittosporum phillyraeoides be included.
CASE 3.0053. Application by ED KANAN for architectural approval for final
landscape, irrigation, and exterior lighting plans for an apartment
complex on Ramon Road/Grenfall Road, R-2 Zone, Section 23.
Restudy noting that accurate site plans and planting plan are to be
submitted.
CASE 3.0054. Application by COMBS GATES AVIATION for architectural approval
of—Tandscape and irrigation plans for airport fixed base operator on E1
Cielo Road, ,south of Aviation Way, "A" Zone, Section 18.
Approved subject to the following condition: That palms and canopy
trees be added per notes on plans.
CASE 3.0146 (MINOR). Application by PHILLIP EMBURY for architectural approval
of swimming pool and spa at 530 Tahquitz Way, R-1-A Zone, Section 15.
Restudy noting the following:
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CONSENT AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.0146 (MINOR) . (Continued)
1. That more detailed plans showing how the proposal relates to the
existing landscaping, house, road and grades (topography map)
shall be submitted.
2. That landscaping shall be revised to "soften the appearance".
3. That stone veneered walls to match the existing walls are recom-
mended.
CASE 5.0277-PD-149. Application by JOSEPH DAMERON for St. Theresa's Church
or architectural approval of parking lot revisions for church on Ramon
Road between Compadre Road/Farrell Drive, R-1-A Zone, Section 13.
Approved subject to the following condition: That all recommendations
of the Development Committee be met.
ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
CASE 3.0123. Application by HERITAGE RANCH CORPORATION for architectural
approval of revised plans for shopping center on North Palm Canyon Drive
between Via Escuela/Zanjero Street, C-1, R-G-A(6) Zones, Section 3.
Planning Director stated that the item was continued at the applicant' s
request for minor revisions of the plans.
M/S/C (Olsen/Whitney; Neel/Curtis absent) continuing the application to
January 14, 1987.
CASE 5.0417-CUP. Application by MICHAEL BUCCINO for Cherokee Village Resort
or architectural approval of revisions to an approved main sign and
revised elevations for resort hotel/restaurant and conference facility
on Cherokee Way/Hwy 111, R-G-A(8) Zone, Section 13.
Planning Director stated that detailed plans were not submitted by the
applicant and recommended continuance.
M/S/C (Whitney/Hough; Neel/Curtis absent) continuing the item to January
14, 1987.
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
CASE . 3.976 (Continued) . Application by WILLIAM KLEINDIENST for KSS
Professional ssociation for reconsideration of denial of revised
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MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Continued)
CASE 3.976 (Continued)
elevations for an outpatient,medical center on N. Palm Canyon between
Tachevah Drive/Vereda Sur, C-1 Zone, Section 10.
Planning Director stated that the item had been continued because of a
tie vote in the last meeting, which resulted in denial , and that one of
the Commissioners voting against the motion (either Whitney or Neel )
would have to make the motion to reconsider. He stated that since
Commissioner Neel was absent Commissioner Whitney would be the motioner.
Commissioner Whitney stated that she would be more comfortable to have
the full complement of Commissioners present to review the case.
Chairman stated that the item would be addressed later in the meeting
when Commissioners decided whether or not to have an adjourned meeting
on December 17.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
CASE 5.0400-ZTA (Continued) . Initiation by the CITY OF PALM SPRING of
revision to Zoning Ordinance (all sections).
(Commission response to written comment on Draft Negative Declaration;
final approval . No comments received. )
Recommendation: That the Commission continue the item to January 14,
1987.
Planning Director stated that staff had met with the Tribal Council con-
sultant full Tribal Council , the Tribal Council Attorney and additional
members of the Tribal Council and has resolved some of the Indian's
concerns. He recommended continuance for further input in reeti.ngswith
the Indians and Indian consultant. He stated that the Tribal Council
wants the Indian Ordinance sections delineated through the revised
ordinance, not in a separate attachment, which was staff's recommenda-
tion.
Chairman declared the hearing open; there being no appearances the
hearing was closed.
(Olsen/Whitney; Neel/Curtis absent) continuing the case to January 14,
1987.
NOTE: Chairman stated that he was at the meeting with the Tribal
Council and there was good dialogue between the two bodies and only two
or three items to be clarified. He stated he felt there was hope for
future cooperation with the Indians.
CASE 5.0421-PD-185-B. Application by DESERT HOSPITAL CORPORATION for concept
approval of a parking lot on the east side of Via Miraleste between
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0421-PD-185-B. (Continued)
Paseo E1 Mirador/Tachevah Drive, R-1-A Zone, Section 11. (This proposal
may include the closing of Vereda Del Sur at Via Miraleste. )
(Environmental assessment. )
Recommendation: That the Commission deny Case 5.0421-PD-185-B.
Planner II (Patenaude) stated that the hospital has submitted a Master
Plan to be reviewed by the City and has asked for a preliminary review
of a parking lot on the east side of Vereda del Sur at the intersection
of Via Miraleste. He stated that the hospital has an option on a
portion of the property and has requested City review of the proposed
lot, but that staff recommends denial because the parking is more suit-
able on the main hospital campus. He stated that the parking lot users
would have to cross Via Miraleste to access the hospital and that the
lot is an intrusion into an established single family neighborhood, is
inconsistent with the General Plan, and would cause an undesirable
emergency access situation. He stated that if the application is
approved, the conditions recommended by staff are delineated in the
staff report.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
M. Fontana, 1150 N. Indian, Desert Hospital Planner, apologized to the
neighbors, stating that the hospital had planned to meet with them to
review the parking lot plans before the public hearing, but the
renderings for the project were not completed in time. He stated that
the hospital planners knew that there would be concern about the pro-
posed parking lot because of the single family neighborhood and the fact
that the hospital had never tried to establish a use eacst of Miraleste.
He explained that the parking lot location is important because it is
directly across from the main lobby of the hospital and that because of
the growth of the hospital , visitors and employees park on the streets
around the hospital , which is not a good situation, and would be
partially remedied by the proposed parking lot. He stated also that
many of the department expansions will be located on the east side of
the hospital and also that additional parking during construction is
important. He stated that the approach taken is sensitive and
eliminates some of the parking problems.
The following persons spoke in opposition to the project:
Mrs. D. Waldman, 651 Paseo El Mirador
D. Haaka, 688 Vereda del Sur
(will take action to place a referendum on the November 1987, ballot and
will also take legal action to stop the proposal . )
J . Blair, 9903 Santa Monica Blvd. , Beverly Hills
R. Bramley, 630 Paseo El Mirador
R. Albrehct, 805 Paseo El Mirador
B. Marvey, 780 Paseo El Mirador
�.. Mrs. L. Hostrop, 700 Vereda del Sur
D. Frid, 687 Vereda del Sur
J . Von Glahn, 1194 Via Miraleste
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0421-PD-185-B. (Continued)
A. Ostendorf, 1784 Stardust Place
Those in opposition cited the following objections:
- Parking lot threatens the safety and welfare of the community.
- Proposal will not relieve parking problems.
- Parking will be close to the rear yards of the residences.
- Parking lot should be on the campus which has adequate room and also
should be moved to the west side of the hospital .
- Crime will increase with a completed parking lot near residences.
- Accessing and ingressing of the lot will create additional traffic
hazards to school children at Catherine Finchy school .
- Increase in fumes and noise will result from vehicles.
- Street design of the cul-de-sac is dangerous and will hinder access for
emergency vehicles.
- Neighborhood traffic pattern will change and a quiet street will have
heavy traffic.
- Lot will encroach into a established residential neighborhood and will
lower property values.
- A private institution should not be allowed to encroach into a neighbor-
hood to subsidize its expansion and profitability.
- The parking lot use sets a dangerous precedence.
- One parking lot is chained closed for helicopter landings which is a
dangerous situation.
L... - There will be safety concerns because of the proximity of the lot to the
residential area.
- The terminus of Vereda del Sur should not be paved since the area is
lovely and has large lots.
- There are other options for the hospital to pursue, such as parking
structures for shade.
- A wall on the lot will hinder pedestrians access to the hospital .
- There should be no expansion east of Via Miraleste.
- The hospital does not monitor parking lots presently for trash and
litter from vehicles parked on the lots.
- Lower cost land is west and north of the hospital and could be used for
parking under an urban renewal program and would not disturb homes on
the east side of the hospital .
- Homeowners bought in the area to be able to walk to the hospital but a
wall would block their way.
C. Mills, project architect, 121 N. Palm Canyon, (rebuttal ) stated that
measures have been taken to make the lot more sensitive to the area,
that the use is an interim one before parking is constructed on the
north side of the hospital ; that there is not a problem with a daytime
use only of the lot; and major setbacks provided and the area heavily
landscaped. He stated that the fire department indicated that the cul-
de-sac although longer than normal is allowable because of the location
of the fire hydrant and that an access for foot traffic from the cul-de-
sac to the hospital will be provided.
There being no further appearances, the hearing was closed.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0421-PD-185-B. (Continued)
In reply to Commission question, Mr. Fontana stated that the parking
lot is chained to provide a liahted safe lot for women employees atnight and
to reserve parking for overlapping. shifiCs. He stated that the grassy area west
of the hospital is not suitable for parking because of its lack of
proximity to the entry and that placing a parking lot west of the
hospital would not resolve the problem of parking close to the lobby
because of the distance. He stated that a multi-level parking structure
would not be completed until Phase 4, which could be 15 years an the
future and that future needs must be addressed in the Master Plan. He
stated that north and west side parking would be provided with parking
structures in Phases 3 and 4 and the influence east of the hospital
diminished, and that the hospital owns some property north of the
hospital and that there is a need for more than the 99 spaces in the
proposed east parking lot.
In reply to Commission question, Mrs. Waldman, who spoke in opposition
to the project, stated that a finished parking lot would be more
inviting to derelicts and as a hangout, and drinking and littering would
increase, and that there is no problem with the vacant lot presently
because it cannot be seen. She stated that the lot would be difficult
to police and the hospital will not provide protection for the neigh-
bors. She commented in regard to the movement of school children that a
dangerous situation exists presently and will be compounded by heavier
traffic and emergency vehicles.
Chairman stated that the problem with the parking lot location is that
it is inconsistent with the General Plan and approval would establish a
dangerous precedence of expansion to the east across Via Miraleste into
an established residential neighborhood. He stated that the hospital
has the funds and area for the Master Plan to address parking problems
and although the land east of the hospital is owned by the hospital ,
that direction is a poor one in which to expand.
Planning Director stated that the staff has not supported the proposal
but gave some recommendations in case the Commission approved the use.
He stated that the cul-de-sac was a staff recommendation and not pro-
posed originally by the hospital .
M/S/C (Olsen/Hough; Neel/Curtis absent) denying CUP application 5.0417
based on the following findings:
1. That the parking allocated to this lot could possibly be located
on the Hospital campus itself.
2. That users of this parking lot must cross a secondary thoroughfare
(Via Miraleste) to access the Hospital .
3. That this extension of the Hospital represents an unwarranted
intrusion into an established single-family residential
neighborhood and is not consistent with the General Plan for the
area.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0421-PD-185-B. (Continued)
4. That the closing of Vereda del Sur would essentially create a long
cul-de-sac which is undesirable from an emergency access
standpoint.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Attorney Paul Selzer, representing applicants in Case 3.976 (outpatient
surgical center) requested reconsideration of postponement of the case.
He stated that he thought that reconsideration would be given at the
meeting of December 10 and that the applicants would have otherwise sub-
mitted a minor revision if they had realized there was a possibility of
continuance. Chairman explained that the motion for reconsideration
would have to come from a Commissioner who voted against the motion.
Commissioner Whitney stated that it would be better to have more
Commissioners present to reconsider the case and suggested that the case
be on the adjourned meeting agenda of December 17 (if the meeting is
held) .
Discussion continued on problems of taking action if there is a meeting
on December 17. Planning Director stated that there could be another
tie vote depending on the makeup of the Commission at the adjourned
meeting. Assistant City Attorney stated that if the Commission declined
to make a motion the requested revision would be dead.
Commissioner Olsen stated that he had visited the site and was not
opposed to the revisions. Mr. Selzer asked that the Commission proceed
with the action on the case and stated that if there is a tie vote the
applicants will return with a revised plan.
- Mrs. C. Cadigan, 2223 Park Drive, requested that the exterior mall
colors be changed to desert colors, stating that she lives in the
neighborhood and the neighborhood joke is that the neighbors are going
to a circus. She requested that pink not be painted against the red
tile roof and suggested that the appearance of the center of town is
just as important as that of downtown. (Case 3.960).
- H. Ostendorf, resident of Fairways Condominiums, requested clarification
of the time extension of in the Conditional Use Permit for the Fairways
since the homeowners association has requested only enough time to allow
persons not living permanently in the condos to comply with the garage
conversion condition of the CUP. Planning Director stated that the CUP
has a provision for the garage conversion permits to be obtained within
90 days and is impractical for those who are not permanent residents.
He recommended a time extension to April 15, 1987. (Case 5.0403-CUP)
CASE 3.976 (Continued) . Application by WILLIAM KLEINDIENST for KSS
ro essiona ssod ation for reconsideration of denial of revised eleva-
tions for an outpatient medical center on N. Palm Canyon between
Tachevah Drive/Vereda Sur, C-1 Zone, Section 10.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS (Continued)
CASE 3.976 (Continued)
Discussion ensued on action Xhat could be taken on the project. In
reply to Commission question Assistant City Attorney stated that one of
the Commissioners who voted for the action taken by the Commission would
have to make the motion for reconsideration. He stated also that the
Commission can decline to reconsider or can reconsider and deny the
application, and that the effect would be the same in that the applicant
would be required to submit a new application.
Chairman stated that only Commissioners Neel and Whitney could make the
motion for reconsideration and since Commissioner Neel was not present
Commissioner Whitney would be required to do so, and the project could
be approved, denied, or modified.
Commissioner Whitney stated that she felt that the project should be
restudied not denied.
M/S/C (Whitney/Olsen; Neel/Curtis absent) to reconsider the action for
denial .
Planner (Williams) stated that revision are simple and include the beam
being moved almost flush with the building and exterior color changes.
Commissioner Olsen stated that his concerns were alleviated after a
site visit.
M/S/C (Olsen/Hough; Whitney dissented; Neel/Curtis absent) approving the
application as submitted.
CASE 3.960. Application by CHRISTIAN ASSOCIATES for the Palm Springs Mall for
architectural approval of exterior colors for a remodeled shopping
center on the southwest corner of Tahquitz-McCallum Way/Farrell Drive,
C-S-C Zone, Section 13.
Planning Director presented the history of the project revisions. He
stated that in January of 1986 the colors, elevation, and site plan and
some aspects of the project were approved with the colors to be reviewed
in the field that there was a review of actual swatches in the field by
the AAC including some Planning Commissioners, and on that basis the
applicants painted three base colors. He stated that the reality of
this situation is that the color pattern painted is not the pattern
shown on the elevations either in intensity or in placement, parti-
cularly on the east elevation on Farrell and there is no approval of the
colors as applied. He explained that the Camelot theater painting has
not been approved. He stated that there was a field trip on December 8
with the AAC and Planning Commission and long discussion between the two
bodies. Chairman stated that the colors were approved in the field by
the AAC, but not by the Planning Commission. Planning Director agreed.
Planner (Williams) stated that several items were discussed at the AAC,
including paint application, pattern, and color selection, and that
several motions were taken because ofconcerns of the AAC members, for
example, the K-mart columns are too strong in color and should probably
be peach. She showed color-coded blueprints on the board which depicted
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PUBLIC C0Mr1ENTS (Continued)
CASE 3.960. (Continued)
the colors of the buildings, as painted, and described the different
votes taken on the colors she stated that yellow is the main issue, but
that some members feel the yellow should be retained as it is others
feel it should be a different shade of yellow.
Planning Director stated that one of the comments of the AAC was not
suggest specific minor revisions since the impact will probably be the
same and changing small areas could lessen the quality of the concept.
Commissioner Whitney stated that she agreed with the AAC and did not
want to approve placement of color. She stated that the color palette
should be approved with the applicant deciding on its application, and
that the basic problem is the color represented as cream which is really
yellow. She commented that the other colors are palatable and that the
yellow color should be discussed and a decision reached.
Commissioner Olsen stated that he remembered that the applicants
indicated that the mall colors would resemble the north face, and they
do not, and that if the elevations had been painted like the rendering
he would have been satisfied. He stated that he had a problem with the
intensity, and that maybe the City is faced with having to choose alter-
natives now that the colors are painted on the building. He stated that
he does not like the colors.
Commissioner Hough stated that he would like to see all four sides pre-
sented and a different shade of yellow might be acceptable.
D. Christian, 1000 S. Palm Canyon, Project Architect, stated that it is
impossible to depict colors accurately on a rendering, that specific
colors from the manufacturer were shown, that it seemed that five of the
six colors are acceptable and that he was surprised at the Commissions
adversion to the yellow, since four members of the AAC voted to retain
it. He stated that he had been review any another color for the
remainder of the buildings, or perhaps minimizing the use of the yellow
color, but it seems that the AAC voted 7-0 to retain the basic palette.
Chairman questioned Commission on the yellow color. Planning Director
stated that the four design members of the AAC felt that yellow should
be retained as it is.
Mr. Christian stated that the issue seems to be split among the AAC
members. Chairman asked whether or not the colors as painted were
approved. Planning Director stated that they were not approved,
although the applicant was told that the three base colors were accept-
able and that several people have stated they do not care about the
pattern, just the overall palette. He stated that the interpretation of
the colors is vital and that there could be a sophisticated look that
would be supported at the City Council .
Chairman stated that staff recommends a continuance to an adjourned
meeting on December 17 with the AAC and that during the interim the
architect can meet with staff to reorganize the colors. He suggested
that the architect present a painting scheme around the building because
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PUBLIC COMMENTS (Continued)
CASE 3.960. (Continued)
if not done, the Council will make a decision on the palette, and it
will be beige.
Mr. Christian stated that he felt that the distribution of colors except
for the base colors would not change the character of the building and
that discussion of placement of the colors could be endless. He stated
that the AAC indicated that once the palette is selected the application
should be at the discretion of the developer, and that there is a lot of
yellow shown in the elevations on the board. He asked if a presentation
should be made to the Commission at the December 17 adjourned meeting,
but stated that he doubted if such a presentation would be of great
assistance to the Commission. He requested that the color situation be
resolved at the December 10 meeting.
Commissioner Olsen stated that it would be a mistake to grant approval
without more details and that if the actual colors had been shown, the
project would not have been approved. He stated that the AAC is able to
visualize the colors on the buildings, but he cannot and renderings need
to be presented. Commissioner Hough agreed. He stated that the sides
of the mall differ and affect the colors. Mr. Christian stated again
that is difficult to indicate colors precisely.
Commissioner Whitney suggested that the actual colors be brought to the
Wednesday meeting. She also suggested that alternative colors be pre-
sented using the five colors other than yellow. She recommended using
the lighter peach and lighter yellow portions of the palette. Chairman
suggested that the yellow be eliminated. Mr. Christian stated that he
was considering eliminating it, but that the AAC wants to retain it.
Commissioner Whitney questioned whether or not the Commission should
become involved in individual colors, or should choose a palette.
Discussion continued. Chairman suggested that the colors be painted on
a board for review. Mr. Christian stated that it would be difficult,
and that tonality is represented on the buildings even if the colors are
shocking.
Chairman recommended no further painting until the issue is resolved.
Mr. Christian requested that the purple stripe be allowed to be painted
on the fascia of the buildings because it has an interaction with the
yellow.
Commissioner Whitney stated that further painting would compound the
problem.
M/S/C (Whitney/Hough; Neel/Curtis absent) continuing the application to
the adjourned meeting of December 17.
CASE 5.0426-MISC (Continued). Planning Commission review of proposed specific
plan for Landau Blvd. , Cathedral City.
Planning Director stated that the case was continued by Cathedral City
for further review by Palm Springs and is a proposal for alignment of
Landau Blvd. which affects Palm Springs in a small triangular parcel
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PUBLIC COMMENTS (Continued)
CASE 5.0426-MISC (Continued)
west of the bowling alley on, Ramon, and north of the Ramon Road bridge
and is an alignment of Landau which connects with Dinah Shore and runs
northerly to Vista Chino and beyond. He stated that the alignment would
affect City limits at the Whitewater Wash and 50 feet of the "N" zonal
City parcel would be removed by right of way dedication. He stated that
Cathedral City is recommending that the parcel be annexed into Cathedral
City. He stated that Palms Springs Planning staff feels that there are
inconsistencies in the proposal in as much as the right-of-way at the
south end is 60 feet and the north end is 100 feet, and that there is a
bike path on the west side which would affect the dike. He stated that
part of the cost of signalization of Landau and Ramon would be borne by
the parcel with little benefit to the City, and that staff recommends
that the cost would have to be borne by Cathedral City since it will not
be developed in the near future. He recommended that the roadway width
be reduced as much as possible including bike paths and sidewalk area
and that traffic engineering be reviewed further along Ramon with the
possibility of closure of the major entrance of the bowling alley, and
the entry moved further east away from the intersection. He recommended
that the Commission support the concept with specific recommendations on
right-of-way width being developed by staff and transmitted to Cathedral
City. He stated that the parcel is Indian-owned.
M/S/C (Olsen/Hough; Neel/Curtis absent) supporting staff's recommenda-
tions as indicated above.
L.� CASE 3.0097 (Ref. Case 3.309). Request by D. CHRISTIAN, for the Courtyard,
or clarification of conditions of requirement to attach columns to the
building for revisions to the Courtyard shopping complex on Tahquitz
Way, C-1-AA Zone, Section 14.
Planning Director stated that project architect David Christian
requested clarification of the Commission condition that the columns tie
back into the buildings. He stated that the architect feels that the
condition does not work architecturally.
Discussion ensued on attachment of the columns, D. Christian, 1000 S.
Palm Canyon, project architect, stated that the AAC recommended that the
columns be freestanding.
Planner (Williams) stated that two members of the AAC voted against
freestanding columns. Mr. Christian stated that connection to the
building is awkward and that the freestanding columns define space with-
out being attached.
Planner (Williams) stated that the AAC upheld its previous action for
the columns to be freestanding. Planning Director stated that the AAC
recommended freestanding, but that the Commission approved attached
columns• Commissioner Olsen stated that the end columns were
the ones recommended to be attached.
�-' Discussion ensued on the location of the columns. Mr. Christian stated
that he felt the offset freestanding columns and connection to the ends
would not have strength, and would be awkward with two of the columns
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PUBLIC COMMENTS (Continued)
CASE 3.0097 (Ref. Case 3.309) . (Continued)
connected and four freestanding. Commissioner Hough stated that the
columns are only noticeable as freestanding at the east and west ends.
Discussion continued. Planning Director stated that pedestrians can
pass between the columns and the building at the courtyard level but not
at street 1 evel , and that the col umns wi 11 ri se to the top of the roof
element of the center building.
Chairman stated that the Commission action was to tie the columns to the
building. Mr. Christian stated that he was designing the columns as
decorative elements, like sculpture, and that they would resemble the
freestanding columns at Wally's Desert Turtle Restaurant. Discussion
continued on the symmetry of the columns. Planning Director stated that
the canopies on the buildings tie into the buildings. Mr. Christian
stated that the columns' appearance above the fascia line is not a
problem, but that attached the design will not work because there is a
problem in retaining the column space.
Commissioner Whitney stated that she felt that the free standing columns
added interest to the building.
M/S (Olsen/Whitney; Neel/Curtis absent) for approval of freestanding
columns.
The vote was as follows:
Ayes: Olsen, Whitney
Noes: Lapham, Hough
Absent: Neel , Curtis
There was a tie vote resulting in denial .
Discussion continued. Chairman stated that there are several design
options for attached columns open to the architect and suggested that
the long flat fascia have some relief. Mr. Christian stated that
attaching the columns could be a weak relationship. Planning Director
stated that he would not be in favor of making the building heavier in
appearance to the street.
Mr. Christian stated that he would appeal the denial of the freestanding
columns to the Council .
CASE 3.0141 (Continued) . Application by JETWAY SYSTEMS for Skywest for
nvironmenta ssessment/Initial Study of an aircraft/hush house
facility on Gene Autry Trail between Vista Chino/Ramon Road, A Zone,
Section 18.
(Commission response to written comments on Draft Negative Declaration.
One letter received.
Planner (Evans) stated that the AAC restudied the architecture and that
staff recommends filing of a Draft Negative Declaration. He stated that
one letter had been received from Cathedral City stating that noise from
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CASE 3.0097 (Ref. Case 3.309). (Continued)
the project would not affect Cathedral City, but recommend establishment
of a noise monitoring system. '
M/S/C (Olsen/Whitney; Neel/Curtis absent) ordering the filing of' a Draft
Negative Declaration and restudy of the architecture.
NOTE: Planning Director later in the meeting stated that the applicant
wanted to finalize the site plan in order to finalize his lease, which
will be sent to Council on December 17 and that conditions of approval
will need to be established and the site plan fixed.
Planner (Evans) stated that the architecture will be restudied and that
the AAC had no major concerns with the site plan but did not vote and
suggested moving the driveway away from the site line to the ramp
although staff feels that the lineal site line is necessary because of
the activity on the site. He stated that the committee was also con-
cerned about that only the street elevation did not resemble a standard
hangar. He noted that the AAC recommended that the roof line be
restudied. He stated that the facility is designed to conduct noise
from the hangar to Ramon Road.
Planning Director stated that the facility would be subject to AAC and
Development Committee conditions.
M/S/C (Olsen/Hough; Neel/Curtis absent) approving the site plan and land
use as proposed, and restudy of the architecture subject to staff, AAC,
and Development Committee Conditions.
CASE 5.0403-CUP. Request by FAIRWAYS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION for a time
extension for conditions of a conditional use permit to change the
original CUP regarding parking requirements for a condominium project
located on Crossley Road, NWO-5 Zone, Section 20.
Planner (Vankeeken) stated that this application was approved in August
to allow parking on the street and conversion of garages, and that some
of the residents have applied for building permits, but the majority of
the homeowners are seasonal and have not returned to the desert, so
staff is recommending an extension of the deadline for applying for
building permits to April 15.
M/S/C (Olsen/Hough; Neel/Curtis absent) extending the deadline for the
conditional use permit to April 15, in order to allow seasonal residents
to comply with the garage conversion condition.
CASE 3.0150 (MINOR) . Initiation by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS for architectural
approval of landscape plans for Crossley Road as extension of driving
range, "0" Zone, Section 20.
Planner (Patenaude) stated that the City is extending the driving range
300 feet along Crossley Road, which would affect property across the
street from the Fairways Condominiums so landscaping will be added for
screening, as well as for screening from the water park and settling
ponds proposed by the DWA. He stated that berming is proposed along
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CASE CASE 3.0150 (MINOR) . (Continued)
Crossley and oleanders and olives as well as Sumachs. He stated that
clusters of palms will be at the entrance at the end of the berms and at
the entrance of the condominium complex, and that the AAC recommended
approval of the landscape concept. He explained further that the golf
course wants a driving range screen along the existing length of the
driving range, which would be 20 feet high on either end with a 40 foot
section in the center, but that AAC recommends denial and suggested that
the golf course reorient the driving range to the northwest so balls
will be diverted from Crossley Road.
Commissioner Olsen questioned whether or not the landscaping was planned
for all the way down to the edge of Crossley, and planner responded that
it is on Crossley Road at that point and the turf would be extended
along the edge of Crossley Road. He stated, in reply to Commission
question, that if orientation of the course were rotated, there would
still be landscaping provided.
Chairman commented that the AAC approved the landscape, but denied the
screen.
Planner stated that rotation was recommended by staff, but that staff is
not forcing the golf course to change of orientation.
M/S/C (Olsen/Whitney; Neel/Curtis absent) approving the landscape
application and denying the driving range screen.
CASE 5.0418-CUP. Application by CHRIS MILLS for Mark Hastings for a
conditional use permit to allow a preschool day care center for 48
children on Racquet Club Road between Farrell Drive/Cerritos Road, R-1-C
Zone, Section.
Planning Director stated that the application was denied by the
Commission in October, but appealed to the Council who overrode the
Planning Commission denial , with a condition that the case be returned
to the Commission to establish of Development Committee and staff
conditions.
He stated that the AAC recommended a restudy of the colors which are
proposed to be bright pink, orange, and a odd green. He recommended
conditions as set forth and preparation of a Draft Negative Declaration.
He stated also that the Commission should order the preparation of a
draft negative declaration.
Chairman explained that in voting on the case the Commission would not
be approving or disapproving, but setting conditions of the Conditional
Use Permit since the case has been approved by Council .
M/S/C (Whitney/Olsen; Neel/Curtis absent) approving the conditions as
recommended by staff; ordering the preparation of a Draft Negative
Declaration; and continuing the item to January 14, 1987 for Commission
response to written comments on the preparation of the draft.
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MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Continued)
CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS. No report was given by staff.
ADJOURNMENT
Chairman adjourned the meeting at 4:40 p.m. to December 17, 1986 at 3:00 p.m.
in the Large Conference Room, City Hall . (The adjourned meeting will be held
in conjunction with the regularly scheduled Planning Commission study
session.)
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Council Chamber, City Hall
January 14, 1987
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1986 - 1987
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to date
Larry Lapham, Chairman X 11 0
Hugh Curtis, Vice Chairman X 10 1
Martha Edgmon X 5 0
Brent Hough X 5 0
Earl Neel X 8 3
Gary Olsen X 8 3
Barbara Whitney X 8 1
Martha Edgmon X 1 0
Staff Present
Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director
Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney
Carol Vankeeken, Planner
Richard Patenaude, Planner
Douglas Evans, Planner
Robert Green, Planner
Margo Williams, Planner
Dave Forcucci , Zoning Enforcement
Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee - January 12, 1987
Chris Mills, Chairman Absent: Mike Buccino
William Johnson
Gary Olsen
Tom Doczi
Barbara Whitney
Brent Hough
Will Kleindienst
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
Report of Posting of Agenda. Agenda available for public access at City Hall
Lobby counter, Planning Division counter, and Library Reference Room, by 1:30
p.m. , Friday, January 9, 1987.
M/S/C (Olsen/Whitney) approving minutes of December 10 &TT1111986, with the
following corrections:
indicate
• 1. December 17 adjourned minutes, pages after front page /"December 10,
1986" (should be December 17).