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Council Chamber, City Hall
May 28, 1986
1 :30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1985 - 1986
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to date
Paul Madsen, Chairman X 20 0
Hugh Curtis X 20 0
Hugh Kaptur X 18 2
Larry Lapham X 20 0
Curt Ealy X 15 0
Earl Neel X 11 0
Staff Present
Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director
Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney
Carol Vankeeken, Planner
Richard Patenaude, Planner
Douglas Evans, Planner
Robert Green, Planner
Dave Forcucci , Zoning Enforcement
Richard McCoy, City Engineer
Diana Ericksen, Community Development Coordinator
Jerry Gonzalez, Traffic Engineer
Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee - Tuesday, May 27, 1986
William Johnson Absent: J. Cioffi , Chairman
Chris Mills
Earl Neel
Tom Doczi
Curt Ealy
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1 :30 p.m.
M/S/C (Curtis/Neel ) approving minutes of May 14, 1986 as submitted.
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ADMINISTRATIVE NOTE
Community Deve1 dent Coordinator distributed rough drafts of the Capital
Improvement 'Pro ram (CIP) which will be reviewed by the Commission on June 11 ,
stated that the CIP had been discussed with Council and that the Commission
needs to review the document for conformity with the General Plan. She stated
that the dollar amounts and costs are accurate and describe the various funds
included in the CIP. She explained that the Commission could contact her if
there were any questions or concerns or additional items that Commissioners
want included. She stated that the text for the CIP will be completed and
mailed to the Commission, and that prioritizing is indicated by the years the
project is listed, but that years 86 and 87 have not been prioritized. She
stated that the Redevelopment Agency can answer questions on the auto part and
street improvements along Ramon and Gene Autry Trail , but that she could
obtain the costs if the Commission desires. Planning Director stated that the
CIP includes the entire industrial area along Ramon and Gene Autry with an
overall street improvement program. Community Development Coordinator stated
that the text is not available currently even in draft form but should be com-
pleted and available within a week.
CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
M/S/C (Curtis/Ealy) taking the following action:
CASE 3.0041 (MINOR) . Application by SIGN TECH for Tony Romas Restaurant for
architecturYT approval of awning for restaurant at 450 S. Palm Canyon
Drive, CBD Zone, Section 15.
Restudy noting the following:
1 . A total redesign of the awning to include width, height and mass.
2. That the signage be including in the awning design.
ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA
CASE 3.953. Application by MICHAEL KINER representing Horwitch Galleries for
architectural approval of revised landscaping and revised exterior for
art gallery at 1090 N. Palm Canyon Drive between Tachevah Drive/N.
Indian Avenue, C-1 Zone, Section 10.
Planner (Patenaude) stated that the AAC originally recommended approval
subject to submission of landscape plans and recommended at the time the
landscape plans were submitted that a planter be added along the Palm
Canyon frontage tying it with the lower sill of the window, but that the
architect wants to extend the arched window to the ground which would
fill the entire door space and place the planter under the southern
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ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.953. (Continued)
addition of the building only. He stated that at the AAC meeting of May
27, the AAC reiterated its recommendations of April 21. He stated that
the applicant feels that the buttress which would be hidden by the
planter should remain as an important architectural element of the
building.
M. Kiner, 7654 Yucca Tree Drive, Palm Desert, project designer, stated
that the buttresses and the porte-cochere are the two architectural
elements of the building which are strong and should remain. He
described on the board the AAC recommendations and stated that encasing
the buttresses is not acceptable. He indicated his preference for the
elevation exposing the buttress (architect's plan "A" ) .
M. Buccino, landscape architect, 340 S. Farrell Drive, stated that he
does not disagree with the AAC very often, but that in this instance he
felt that the building should be left clean and pure as it was designed,
and that the landscape treatment should be a paving scheme on which the
building sits with no plantings around it. He stated that the courtyard
will be a landscaped scheme with the only planting in the front being an
existing Jacaranda tree. He described the courtyard landscape elements
and stated that sculptures will be placed in the courtyard and under the
porte-cochere. He stated that the integrity of the architecture should
be maintained, that nothing should be added that does not belong in the
design and that to construct a planter would be a foreign element. He
explained that the Redevelopment staff has agreed to participate in the
paving costs because of the proposed concept. He described landscaping
in the parking lot and suggested evergreens on the south side with Crepe
Mrytle in the rear of the parking lot (although the AAC recommended
against them because they do not provide enough shade). He stated that
the applicant wants a bright and playful appearance to the landscaping.
Mr. Kiner stated that the planter recommended by the AAC is not a
planter but a masonry wall .
Commissioner Lapham noted that the Crepe Mrytle trees will be bare six
months of the year.
Mr. Buccino stated that the trees do not lose all of their leaves in the
desert climate and that there will be no strong shade pattern on the
east and north sides of the building.
Commissioner Kaptur stated that he was inclined to agree with the
professionals on the project and not restrict them in the minor details
the AAC recommended. In reply to Commission question, Mr. Buccino
stated that there will be flowers in the two planters and groundcover
beneath the Jacaranda tree in the front and pots against the building
for color.
M/S/C (Kaptur/Ealy; Lapham/Neel dissented) approving architect' s plan
"A" subject to the followings conditions:
1. That the pot shelf be added along the Palm Canyon frontage to the
south of the buttress only.
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ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA (Continued)
CASE 3.953. (Continued)
2. That the trees along the south edge of the parking lot be
evergreen.
3. That Crepe Mrytle be planted along street frontages and parking
lot.
4. That a minimum of 30" box size trees be used in the parking lot.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
CASE 5.0398-PD-180 (Continued). Application by LAWRENCE PIERCE for a Planned
Development District to construct a 91 unit, 3-story hotel on South
Indian Avenue between Calle Encilia/South Indian Avenue, south of Arenas
Road, C-2 and C-1-AA Zones, (I .L. ) , Section 14.
(Commission response to written comments on Draft Negative Declaration;
final approval . No comments. )
Recommendation: That the Commission restudy the architecture and
continue the application to June 11.
Planner (Green) presented the project and stated that there has been a
change in State law that requires that plans be submitted and signed by
registered architects, and that the revised plans submitted by the
applicant were not drawn by a registered architect. He stated that the
AAC recommended continuance until the plans are completed and signed by
an architect although the Committee informally reviewed the
architecture. He stated that the applicants are redesigning the
project.
Chairman declared the hearing open; there being no appearances , the
hearing was closed.
M/S/C (Curtis/Neel ) for a restudy of the architecture and for plans to
be submitted with an architects signature and license number and a
restudy of the landscape plans noting the following:
1. That decorative paving be added to visually break the parking lot
street.
2. That more trees be added around building B (add vertical spaces).
3. That canopy trees be added south of the pool .
4. That trees be subject to the city size policy.
5. That palm trees be grouped and placed against the building.
Note: The Commission continued the application till June 11.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
CASE 5.0398-PD-180 (Continued)
TRIBAL COUNCIL COMMENTS
This case was considered by the Tribal Council at its meeting of May 13,
1986.
After consideration of the recommendations of the Indian Planning
Commission and review of the City Planning Commission Meeting minutes of
May 14, 1986, the Tribal Council took the following actions:
1. Reiterated its actions of May 13, 1986, which were as follows:
a. Concurred with the findings and conclusions contained in
Planning Commission Staff Report dated May 14, 1986.
b. Approved the Preliminary Planned Development District
subject to the conditions recommended by City Staff.
2. Approved the filing of a Negative Declaration with the mitigation
contained in Environmental Assessment/Initial Study dated May 1 ,
1986.
CASE 8.229 - SIGN VARIANCE (Continued). Application by IMPERIAL SIGNS for
Plaza Motors for a sign variance for two additional signs above
�—' ordinance requirements for auto sales company at 290 N. Indian Avenue,
C-2 (I .L. ) , Section 14.
and
CASE 3.0039 (MINOR) (Continued). Application by IMPERIAL SIGNS for
architectural approval of revisions to existing sign program for
automobile agency at 290 N. Indian Avenue, C-2 Zone (I .L. ) , Section 14.
Recommendation: That the Planning Commission deny sign variance 8.229
and approve Case 3.0039 subject to conditions.
Zoning Enforcement Officer described the proposed sign changes and
stated that the AAC recommended approval of the design of the sign but
did not comment on the variance. He stated that two additional signs
are being requested, but are above the requirements of the sign
ordinance - a sign for the used car area and a second identification
sign. He stated that staff is recommending denial of the variance.
Planning Director stated that no finding can be made for approval and
that the Tribal Council supports staffs recommendation for denial .
Chairman declared the hearing open.
J. Engle, Imperial Signs, Indio, stated that there is a problem with the
existing identification sign because it is blocked by the building
architecture and cannot be read by traffic traveling on Indian Avenue.
He stated also that the City' s street trees block the sign and that
there is also a safety hazard created because people have passed the
business before they realize it and cannot turn around because Indian is
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
CASE 3.0039 (MINOR) (Continued)
a one-way street at that point. He stated that the proposed used cars
sign is set 75 ft. and could not be seen unless it were larger than the
5 sq. ft. allowed and was the reason for the applicant's requesting
the sign.
Discussion followed on findings for a variance.
Assistant City Attorney stated that the Sign Ordinance stated that a
sign variance may be granted if there are unique architectural or site
plan features which limit the sign's applicability.
Ms. Shannon O'Mahoney, Imperial Signs, Indio, stated that she had
difficulty finding the 'business as she drove along N. Indian Avenue,
although she knew where it was and that people have to drive around the
block if they miss it because of the one-way street. She stated that
the building structure is unique and that because of the traffic hazard
created by the one-way street the sign company feels justified in
applying for the variance.
Commissioner Kaptur stated that signing is important on a one-way street
and suggested that locations of signs "A" and "E" be reversed.
In reply to Commission question, Ms. O'Mahoney stated that a person
would be able to identify Plaza Motors while traveling west on Amado if
an I .D. sign were facing Amado.
Zoning Enforcement Officer stated that staff could not trade off the
location of the signs, but if the applicant wished to delete the main
sign and replace it with one on the south end of the building it could
be done.
In reply to Commission question he stated that a convenience sign over
the driveway would be limited to 5 sq. ft. (maximum) , but that a sign on
Amado is allowed and cannot be traded.
Further discussion followed on moving locations of the signs.
Commissioner Curtis stated that moving a main I .D. sign to the south of
the building might create both a car servicing and traffic problem.
Ms. O'Mahoney stated that the south parking lot is not used as a
driveway and cars block it.
A. Jessup, 599 Fern Canyon Road, the applicant, stated that the two
objectives requested are upgrading of the sign program and giving
additional identification to the car lines since people cannot find the
business. He stated that there was sufficient signing on the canopy
before the Sign Ordinance was changed and the sign eliminated. He
explained that no single sign will serve the entire facility and
suggested that the sign on the end of the canopy be approved (thus
eliminating a safety hazard) .
In response to Commission question about replacement of sign "C" with an
entry sign and another sign on the south end of the building, Mr. Jessup
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 3.0039 (MINOR) . (Continued)
stated that he did not like to lose sign "C" on the north side of the
building. He suggested a smaller sign at the end of the canopy as an
alternative and stated that a service entry sign is a needed sign (sign
B . )
Zoning Enforcement Officer stated that sign "B" will be upgraded, is a
convenience sign, and that there is no problem with the sign.
There being no further appearances, the hearing was closed.
In response to Commission question, Assistant City Attorney stated that
he could not interject an opinion on whether or not there is a hardship
because of a lack of signing, because it is the Commission's purvue to
do this. He explained that a finding must be made that there are
unusual architectural or unusual site plan features which limit the
applicability and lessen the intent of the Sign Ordinance.
In response to Chairman's request Planning Director stated that the
intent of the Sign Ordinance is for one main sign concept per property.
Assistant City Attorney read the preamble to the Sign Ordinance (high
aesthetic standards, equitable standards for all businesses, and the
need for an uncluttered appearance of the City) .
Discussion followed on the uniqueness of the building as a finding for a
variance. Mr. Ealy stated that the building does have some
d... characteristics of "unusual and unique" architecture. City Attorney
stated that a finding would have to be that the building is unique.
Planning Director stated that if the uniqueness of this building is a
finding, staff will receive many applications for additional signs.
Chairman stated that a variance does not set a precedent.
Commissioner Kaptur stated that he could support the variance, but did
not want 5 or 6 signs on the building. He suggested that an in-depth
study be made to resolve problems from a design standpoint and develop-
ment of a sign program.
Discussion followed on whether or not a variance could be approved.
Commissioner Curtis stated that sign "E" on the south side of the
building, if approved, should be compatible with the rest of the
signing.
Zoning Enforcement Officer stated that the parking area south of the
property is owned by Plaza Motors.
Commissioner Curtis suggested a free standing sign and again suggested
that a program be developed at which the variance could be supported if
necessary.
Zoning Enforcement Officer stated that a monument sign was suggested by
staff, but that the sign company felt that the configuration of the
building prohibited it.
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CASE 3.0039 (MINOR) . (Continued)
Chairman commented that a monument sign would have to be on the
sidewalk.
Discussion ensued on the type of Commission action.
Planning Director stated that a variance could be approved if findings
were made that the building is unusual (with a restudy of the signs),
He suggested that if findings are made for uniqueness they be enum-
merated.
M/S (Kaptur/Ealy) that the variance be approved with findings that there
are unique architectural and site features, one-way traffic which
reduces the visibility of the signing, existing City palm trees which
block the signing, that the signing was designed with a two-way street
element which has now become one-way, and also that the architecture
does not facilitate to adequate signing.
Discussion continued before the vote was taken.
Planning Director reiterated that staff is concerned about the findings
being specific because there are many businesses along one-way streets
with the architectural design ignoring graphics and signage and the same
findings could be made for many businesses along Indian and Palm Canyon.
He questioned whether or not there were a problem with the Sign
Ordinance and stated that findings could be made on this particular
building but not on every building along Palm Canyon and Indian.
Commissioner Kaptur stated because of the nature of the 200 ft. wide
frontage there would be less signage than there would be if the property
were in several more normal frontages.
Commissioner Ealy stated that the wording regarding the Ordinance seems
to be more general and permissive in the Sign Ordinance than in the
Zoning Ordinance and allows for more general types of findings.
Assistant City Attorney stated that findings for a land use variance are
different from that for a sign in that the characteristics created by
the user himself, such as architecture of the building, are not used in
a land use variance but can be used in a sign variance.
Commissioner Ealy explained that the generality is the reason he
seconded the motion.
Commissioner Curtis stated that there are not many businesses that have
access to the south or north on Indian and Palm Canyon and that they
would never require a sign either north or south, but that there are
many properties on the corners who do not have existing signage. He
stated that if there are any businesses that deserved a sign on the
south side the subject business does although the type of sign is open
to question.
Commissioner Kaptur stated that the business is unique because there are
several businesses within one at the facility (servicing, used car and
new sales).
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 3.0039 (MINOR). (Continued)
Chairman stated that he did not support the variance because the problem
could be resolved by moving the main identification sign down to the
driveway.
Commissioner Neel stated that he could not support the variance because
it is precedent setting and because there will be many more requests if
it is approved.
Chairman explained that Commission action should be in regard to whether
or not there are sufficient grounds for a variance (without consider-
ation of the signs) .
Assistant City Attorney stated that precedent setting cannot be caused
by a variance because it is granted on uniqueness.
The Commission then voted on the variance. The vote was as follows:
Ayes: Kaptur, Ealy, Curtis
Noes: Lapham, Neel , Madsen
The was a tie vote and the variance was denied. (Assistant City
Attorney stated that a tie vote is denial since the Commission did not
approve the variance. )
Planning Director stated that the action is appealable to the City
Council .
M/S/C (Curtis/Lapham) approving the three legal signs as submitted (Case
3.0039) .
TRIBAL COUNCIL COMMENTS
CASE 8.229 - SIGN VARIANCE was considered by the Tribal Council at its
meetings of May 13, 1986. Action on this Case was continued pending the
applicant's submittal of the showings required for the approval of a
variance.
After consideration of the recommendations of the Indian Planning
Commission and review of the City Planning Commission meeting minutes of
May 14, 1986, the Tribal Council took the following actions:
1. Noted that the applicant did not make the mandated showings,
either as part of the application or in his presentation at the
City Planning Commission hearing of May 14, 1986, which are
required for approval of a variance.
2. In view of the applicant's failure to make the showings referred
to above, the Tribal Council concurred with the recommendations
contained in City Staff Report dated May 14, 1986, that the
variance be denied.
3. In accordance with its policy on architectural approval items, the
Tribal Council did not comment on CASE 3.0039 (MINOR) which
involved architectural approval of revisions to existing signs.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0404-PD-182. Application by DAVID GRAF for Mark Bragg for review of
the initial study portion of an environmental review to define the areas
to be analyzed in an EIR for a Planned Development District to allow
construction of a 200 unit resort hotel on Tram Way between the Tram
Base Station/Highway 111, U-R Zone, Section 4.
Recommendation: That the Commission order the preparation of a draft
EIR.
Planner (Evans) described the project as a 200 unit hotel with 8 tennis
courts and 5 pool areas on 40 acres of a 320 acre site. He requested
that comments or concerns be given to staff regarding potential issues,
to establish the scope and focus of the EIR, and to delineate primary
and secondary impact areas . He stated that the Tribal Council is
supporting the preparation of a Draft EIR, and that one letter has been
received in opposition to development in Chino Canyon. He explained
that the proposed timeline is for a public hearing on the draft EIR in
November and the final EIR in January, 1987.
In reply to Commission question, he stated that 200 units would be built
at a maximum condition; and if condominiums were constructed, there
would be 150 units.
He described the site on the board and stated that landscaping is
proposed to be traditional urban type of landscaping with a transition
area to native plant species. He discussed the proposal showing
conference and administration facilities and the surrounding property
which is to be preserved as open space. He stated that the archi-
tectural concepts will be Mediterrean with materials to be selected for
compatibility with the area and that minor revisions may be made after
EIR results have been formulated. He explained that the AAC approved
the concept but felt the architectural type should represent the desert
environment. With respect to the landscaping, he stated the AAC
recommended that the desert landscaping should be less rigid, more
integrated that additional elevations and footprints are necessary, and
that a study of detailed colors and materials be made. He stated that
all details are to be reviewed in the future by the Commission.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
M. Bragg, 1526 18th Street, Washington D.C. , the applicant, stated that
he was present to answer questions.
C. Nichols, 899 N. Palm Canyon, stated that he was in favor of the pro-
ject since it will be beneficial and help to protect his adjoining
property which he will maintain as a private natural reserve with no
plans for development. He stated that his unspoiled property will be
preserved permanently for study and educational purposes. He requested
that "Tram Way Road" on the agenda be changed to "Tram Way" which is the
approved name, and that Highway 111 be referred to as North Palm Canyon
Drive.
G. Meyer, 73300 Grapevine, Palm Desert, speaking for the Tahquitz group
of the Sierra Club and also for the Coachella Valley Audubon Society
voiced concerns as follows:
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0404. (Continued)
- Leap frog development without necessary support services. (Poor
planning practise.
- Visual obtrusiveness (height, hillside development, visibility
from the valley floor, obstruction of the view to Mt. San
Jacinto) .
- Light obtrusiveness (from tennis court lighting) .
- Impact on the natural environment and nocturnal animals.
- Hillside development. Technically not hillside but should be
listed as such in General Plan and Zoning Ordinance. Also Tramway
General Plan should be updated as sensitivity to resources has
increased since the plan was written in 1966.
- Impact on water resources. Wells for the project would have
adverse affect on the adjacent oasis which is a Least Bell 's Vireo
habitat.
- Flood control . Floods could occur on the property since the
boulders on the site were deposited by floods and flooding may
occur again.
- Impact on biological resources. Development is planned in the
midst of a natural wildlife area.
- Plantings. Non-native vegetation will be intrusive and will
interfere with native vegetation. Utilization of natural vegeta-
tion should be required.
- Nightlight impact. Night lighting effects on wildlife are unknown
but impacts could be severe.
Cultural resources. More thorough study needed.
- Increase in traffic. Traffic would not be confined to tram hours
but would be on a 24 hour basis; night travel with lights would be
generated and should be considered.
- Bighorn sheep habitat. Potentially prime habitat for the Bighorn
sheep.
- Construction disturbance. Entire 40 acres will be disrupted at
one time with loss of much of the values of the site from dust,
noise, and vehicles , and will impact on the Least Bell 's Vireo.
- Fire. Long emergency response time. Should be sprinklered, water
tanks provided, and trained personnel should be on site. Adjacent
area is a wildfire area and fire might escape from the site.
- Project location. Main concern. It would be a fine project some-
where else but not in its present location.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
M. Bragg (rebuttal ) stated that many of the concerns have been discussed
in meetings with the Sierra Club and Audubon Society and will be
addressed in the EIR. He stated that the cultural resources study was
not superficial because much time and money were spent on it, and the
study found that there was no major disruption of any identified
cultural resources at the present time. He stated that the other con-
cerns will be addressed in detail in the future.
In response to Commission question, Planner stated that the Least Bell ' s
Vireo is found in most of the canyons west of the City and every project
near a canyon will need to address the issue. He stated that most of
the issues indicated by Mr. Meyer are addressed in the initial study.
M/S/C (Curtis/Lapham) ordering the preparation of a draft EIR for review
by the Commission and focusing on areas identified by staff in the
initial study.
TRIBAL COUNCIL COMMENTS
It was noted that the proposed project is located on former Indian Trust
Land and is bounded by undeveloped Indian Trust Lands on the South,
Northeast, Northwest and Southwest.
After consideration of the recommendations of the Indian Planning
Commission and in view of the project's potential environmental impact
on undeveloped trust lands, including cultural resources within the
Project Site, the Tribal Council took the following action:
Concurred with City staff recommendations that a Draft Environmental
Impact Report be prepared addressing the impact areas identified in the
Environmental Assessment/Initial Study dated May 28, 1986, and focused
according to the prioritization contained in the document.
CASE 6.354-VARIANCE. Application by ERIK WILLIAMS for a variance in front
yard setbacks to construct a shade structure for a single-family
residence at 373 Via Sol , R-1-A Zone, Section 3
(This action is categorically exempt from environmental assessment, per
CEQA guidelines. )
Recommendation: That the Commission deny the application.
Planner (Green) presented a staff report and stated that the house had a
carport converted legally before the City required two covered parking
spaces for residential areas, and Finding No. 4 in the staff report is
not valid since this information recently came to light. He stated that
staff cannot make the necessary required findings for approval of the
variance, and that the Zoning Ordinance requires that garages be 25 ft.
from the property line for vehicular maneuvering. He stated that if the
variance is granted, cars will be required to back onto the street. He
explained that five neighbors have objected to the proposal citing
�'� concerns of precedent setting, adverse impact on the appearance of the
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 6.354-VARIANCE. (Continued)
street, and effect on property values. He stated that the AAC
recommended approval of the design, but that staff recommends denial of
the variance.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
E. Williams, 373 Via Sol , the applicant and owner of the property stated
that there are certain circumstances that should be considered and
certain conditions make the variance a reasonable one. He stated that
the house was built in the 1950's and was inadequate as his family grew
larger, and that it was necessary to convert the garage into living
area, which necessitated giving up the parking space, and that covered
parking is needed because of the summer heat. He stated that there is a
driveway on the side of the house which places cars closer to the street
with less turning radius and is more objectionable that what is being
proposed. He stated that everything being requested adheres to the
Zoning Ordinance except for the extension of the canopy further into the
setback, that the canopy is not obtrusive or unattractive, and that none
of the neighbors has reviewed the plans and are responding in ignorance
of the situation. He stated that in the older Las Palmas area many
homeowners have constructed canopies and carports, many of which are in
violation of the existing ordinance, that no precedent is being estab-
lished, since it is already established in Las Palmas; and that the City
has allowed the infractions to remain. He stated that the present
ordinance requires two covered spaces, and that he wishes to comply with
�.. the ordinance but that compliance requires a variance of 5 ft. 6 inches.
Commissioner Kaptur asked the depth of the canopy if taken back to the
property line. Dr. Williams stated that it would be 15 ft. and very
sufficient, and that he had thought the structure was required to be 18
ft. by 18 ft.
Planning Director stated that since the carport was legally converted,
the applicants are under no mandate to construct a garage or carport so
that a permit could be issued for a six foot square covered area and the
15 ft. extension would be no problem. He stated that if it were a
legal carport, in order to satisfy the ordinance the applicants would be
required to put in a 18 ft. square structure.
Dr. Williams stated that he would be happy to compromise with a 15 ft.
canopy. Commissioner Lapham stated that there would not be a require-
ment for Commission approval , and that the 15 ft. canopy would require
only a building permit.
Planning Director agreed since it is not a hillside area or an archi-
tectural street. He stated that it was put on the agenda to achieve
what the applicant wanted to build and that the applicant was not
questioned by staff on whether or not he would find the smaller
structure acceptable.
,. G. Trimble, 353 Via Sol , stated that he was in favor of the project,
that it would be visible from his property and would enhance the subject
property since the cars will be covered.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 6.354-VARIANCE. (Continued)
There being no further appearances, Chairman declared the hearing
closed.
M/S/C (Lapham/Kaptur; Curtis abstained) denying the variance based on
the following findings:
1. That there are no special circumstances applicable to the subject
property which determines that the strict application of the
Zoning Ordinance would deprive the subject property of privileges
enjoyed by other properties in the vicinity under identical zone
classification.
2. That conditions cannot be applied to the proposal which would
assure that the adjustment shall not constitute a special
privilege inconsistent with the Zoning Ordinance.
3. That the granting of the variance would not adversely affect the
General Plan for the City.
4. That the depth of the lot conforms to the Zoning Ordinance
requirements.
TPM 21492 and CASE 3.997. Application by BERNARD J. CRAWFORD for a tentative
4... parcel map to consolidate 3 lots into one for condominium purposes and
architectural approval of a 3-story condominium complex on El Segundo
between Ramon Road/Saturnino Road, R-4 Zone (I .L. ) , Section 14.
(Commission response to written comments on draft Negative Declaration;
final approval ; no comments. )
Planner Green explained the project on the display board, and stated
that there have been objections from the residents of an adjoining
condominium project regarding safety fence, some of the residents feel
that the homeowners in the proposed project might gain access to their
project while being concealed by the carports. He stated that staff has
no objections to the carports as long as they are designed with the pro-
ject although a AMM will be required to allow a minor intrusion into the
setbacks. He stated that staff recommends approval of the architecture
subject to conditions, that a separate CUP will be required for tennis
court lighting. and that an additional trash enclosure will be required.
He stated that accessing onto Ramon Road will be by right turn only and
that the AAC reviewed the project at an earlier meeting and had minor
recommendations. He stated that Planning staff has added some condi-
tions.
In regard to the map, he stated that staff recommends that the north
boundary line extend to the Baristo Channel to avoid a remainder sliver
of land which does not comply with the provisions of the Subdivision Map
Act, but that the applicant is questioning the condition. He stated
that the applicant is also questioning the condition to widen the bridge
across the flood channel in order to keep a straight line for E1 Segundo
and the requirement to install a traffic light at E1 Segundo and Ramon
May 28, 1986 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 15
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
TPM 21492 and CASE 3.997. (Continued)
(applicant will be required to pay one-fourth of the cost) . He
explained the City Attorney is requesting a continuance of the map for
further review by his office.
In reply to Commission questions, Planner stated that staff feels that
carports should be placed along the north portion of the site along the
flood channel , will require a AMM for minor encroachment into the set-
backs and that a ramp will be required into the entrance to the double-
loaded corridor. He stated that zoning for the Village Racquet Club is
R-4. (Planning Director stated that Zoning was R-2 when the project was
built. )
Chairman declared the hearing open.
B. J. Crawford, project developer and lessee, requested that the 8 ft.
sidewalk and 8 ft. bikepath requirement be revised to a 10 ft. combin-
ation which allows for more landscaping. He stated that the condition
which will be impossible to fulfill is that of requiring dedication of
Saturnino because he does not have the land under lease, and the area is
a natural extension of the Village Racquet Club lease and not tied into
the subject site. He said that his lease extends to the southside of
the channel and that one of the lots has a maximum of 10,000 sq. ft.
and does set a precedent. He stated that' the Subdivision Map Act may
not be applicable to Indian Land held in Federal Trust and that he would
accept the condition to fund one-fourth the cost of a traffic signal at
�..� E1 Segundo and Ramon, although he questioned whether it was needed
because a recent traffic study stated that it was not a requirement on
that street. He noted that his firm had just completed the Biarritz
complex which abuts the same street and was not required to participate
in the cost of a signal . He stated also that the requirement for a
bridge on El Segundo may not be able to be met because the the Indians
may not lease him additional land, and he does not have the authority to
dedicate that piece of land. In reply to Commission question, he stated
that the land is leased only to the south boundary of the flood channel
and that the remainder land is still retained by three Indian owners and
is contiguous with land east of Village Racquet Club. He stated that
someone could negotiate with the Indians regarding this particular
sliver, but that he could not insure the land, and that irrigation would
have to be on separate meters. He stated that the Indians should have
been compensated for the sliver when the land was taken from them. He
stated it was probably a problem for the flood control district.
C. Mills, 121 S. Palm Canyon, project architect, stated that he was
present to answer questions, and that there was no problem with reloca-
tion of the carports, but that it would be difficult to negotiate to
develop on the sliver of property and that the carports are more hidden
in their present location.
Mrs. M. Troup, 951 Village Square South, stated that driveway ramps on
the project will affect residents at that end of the project, because
the units face the new complex and will be affected by lights from the
cars on the ramps. She stated that security could be a problem because
people can climb the walls to use the pools and other facilities and
requested that the wall of the adjoining complex be raised in height.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
TPM 21492 and CASE 3.997. (Continued)
M. Johnson, 474 Village Square West, stated that he was not objecting to
the development itself, but that the homes along the wall will be facing
directly into the development, and that his home would be near the car-
ports and tennis courts. He stated that circumstances change properties
which has happened at the Biarritz and that there will be light
pollution from the courts. He stated that at Easter there were problems
with persons scaling the walls and also security problems and that one
of the security guards was killed recently when a vehicle rammed the
gate. He questioned whether or not there would be public access to the
new project since people could then have access to the Village Racquet
Club and stated that the Village Racquet Club homeowners plan to build
guard houses and hire additional guards, but if people can access
readily the homeowners would be spending money needlessly. He stated
that the tennis courts for the Village Racquet Club are in the center of
the complex and unlighted to avoid light pollution. He also questioned
landscape maintenance responsibility and height of the walls and stated
also that the homeowners were never approached regarding the project.
B. J. Crawford (rebuttal ) stated that the residents have valid concerns,
that he had tried to contact the homeowners association but that the
management company had refused to give out the names of the homeowners
and he was forced to obtain the names from the assessors rolls for
notification. He stated that the subject property tennis courts are not
lighted nor are those of the Biarritz. He explained that the maximum
height of the walls is 54 inches and that there will be unmanned
security gates at the project entrance. He stated that the angle of the
ramps does not allow vehicular light pollution.
Mr. Mills stated that the angle of the ramps and the landscaping will
screen the lights and that the carports will be light, open, and low;
and that there are three elevators in the project in the central cores.
He stated that the project will be gated.
M/S/C (Lapham/Neel ; Ealy abstained) approving the architecture (Case
3.997) subject to the following conditions:
1. That all recommendations of the Development Committee of May 13,
1986 be implemented.
2. That there be a restudy of the capitals.
3. That there be a restudy of the roof tile.
4. That the carports be relocated to the north boundary line.
M/S/C (Curtis/Lapham; Ealy abstained) continuing TPM 21492 to June 11
for further review by the City Attorney's Office.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
TPM 21492 and CASE 3.997. (Continued)
TRIBAL COUNCIL COMMENTS
After consideration of the recommendations of the Indian Planning
Commission, the Tribal Council took the following actions:
1. Approved tentative Parcel Map 21492 subject to Development
Committee Conditions dated March 11, 1986.
2. Approved the filing of a Negative Declaration with mitigation
measures as contained in Environmental Assessment/Initial Study
dated May 28, 1986.
3. In accordance with its policy on architectural approval items, the
Tribal Council did not comment on the architectural features of
the proposed project.
PUBLIC COMMENTS: None.
ITEM REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
CASE 3.0038 (MINOR) . Application by IMPERIAL SIGNS for architectural approval
of revised sign application and awning for Robann's Jewelers at 125
South Palm Canyon Drive, CBD Zone, Section 15.
Zoning Enforcement Officer presented the sign and awning on the board.
J. Engle, Imperial Signs, Indio, requested that the canopy be approved
at 30 inches (not 15 as recommended by the AAC) , because the 15 inch
width becomes part of the fascia.
Zoning Enforcement Officer stated that AAC member Mills dissented
because he did not feel that the building design should be changed,
because the building was designed by Lloyd Wright.
M/S/C (Lapham/Kaptur) approving the application subject to the following
conditions:
1. That the awning will be recessed an additional 15 inches (from a
30 inch width to a 15 inch width) .
2. That the width at the end of the horizontal band match the
building.
3. That the south end of the awning be extended to the end of the
stonework.
4. That the AAC and Planning Commission review working drawings.
May 28, 1986 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 18
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
CASE 3.959 (HOA) . Application by STEVE SULLIVAN for the Palm Springs
Town omen Homeowners Association for architectural approval of detailed
landscape, irrigation, and exterior lighting plans for a security wall
system for a residential condominium complex on N. Indian Avenue
between Via Escuela/Racquet Club Road, R-2 Zone, Section 2.
Planning Director stated that the application was denied by the
Commission, but the Council overruled the Commission action and
applicants are now submitting landscape plans, and that irrigation plans
include reworking of the existing irrigation system (which has been dis-
cussed with staff) . He described the size of the plant materials and
stated that the lighting will be very simple with lights at the walkways
and uplights on the walls. He stated that the AAC recommended approval
subject to changes in some aspects of the landscaping.
S. Sullivan, Palm Desert, the architect, stated that the applicants were
agreeable with the conditions.
M/S/C (Curtis/Ealy) approving the application subject to the following
conditions:
1. That the Via Escuela street frontage include Bougainvillea,
Aramerops, and Rosemary in the raised planters.
2. That shrubs be integrated with the annual color and planting
areas.
3. That the Lantana in the raised planter boxes on Via Escuela be
deleted and Bourgainvillea substituted.
4. That details of the above conditions be approved by staff in the
field.
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
CASE 5.0155-PD-129 & TTM 17151. Request by MEL HABER for a twelve month time
extension for TTM 17151 and Case 5.0155-PD-155 to allow construction of
a 76 unit condominium project on the westerly terminus of Tahquitz-
McCallum Way, R-2 & R-3 Zones, Section 15.
Planner (Evans) stated that the project was approved in 1981 and the map
will expire in July of 1986 and cannot be extended but can be
resubmitted. He stated that the AAC had been concerned about the roof
concept in the original approval and the elevations were approved con-
ditionally subject to redesign of the mansard roof to hip roofs in some
areas. He stated that the AAC reviewed the original application on May
27, is still concerned about the mansard roof concept, and that staff is
recommending a 24 month time extension on the PD.
Planning Director explained the project was reviewed by the AAC because
the new Zoning Ordinance limits the length of the AAC approval to 2
May 28, 1986 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 19
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Continued)
CASE 5.0155-PD-129 & TTM 17151. (Continued)
years and staff feels that the AAC should review older projects. He
stated that there are homes which overlook the roof.
Planner stated that residents above the project are concerned about the
height of the building and the roof tile and are concerned about the
white roof because of the mansard concept. He stated that staff has
recommended a 24 month time extension with the roof concept to be
redesigned prior to issuance of building permit.
M. Haber, 200 W. Ramon, the applicant, requested. extension of the PD so
that the project will not fail since much time and money have been spent
on it. He stated that the restudy of the roof concept is an acceptable
condition.
M/S/C (Curtis/Lapham; Kaptur abstained) approving a 24 month time
extension with a new expiration date to be July 28, 1988 subject to all
original conditions of approval and the following additional condition:
That the mansard roof concept be redesigned to include hip roofs in the
overall concept.
NOTE: TTM 17151 expired on 1/25/86 and no further extensions can be
granted.
�... ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Continued)
Approval of architectural cases is valid for two years. The approval granted
must be exercised within that time period unless extended.
CASE 3.864. Application by BROWN, BROSCHE, FINANCIAL, INC. for architectural
approval of revised roof tile for hotel on N. Palm Canyon Drive between
E. Vista Chino/Via Escuela, C-1 & R-3 Zones, Section 3.
Planning Director stated that the original approval was for authentic
barrel tile, that the applicant is now requesting a change to either
articulated flat tile or "S" tile, and that the AAC recommended denial
and retention of the approved barrel tile.
M/S/C (Curtis/Kaptur) denying the proposed change of roof tile.
CASE 3.932. Application by SUJAN, INC. for architectural approval of revised
elevations for apartment building on E1 Placer Road between Ramon
Road/Via Parocela, R-2 Zone, Section 19 (Ref. Case 3.951) .
M/S/C (Curtis/Lapham) for a restudy noting the followings :
1. That the east end elevation be redesigned with a more substantial
element, not an "add-on" element.
2. That the wall and entry area & landscaping be redesigned.
May 28, 1986 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 20
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Continued)
CASE 3.951 (REF. Case 3.932) . Application by SUJAN, INC. for architectural
approval of revised elevations for apartment building on E1 Placer Road
between Ramon Road/Camino Parocela, R-2 Zone, Section 19.
M/S/C (Kaptur/Curtis) for a restudy noting the followings :
1. That the east end elevation be redesigned with a more substantial
element, not an "add-on" element.
2. That the wall and entry area & landscaping be redesigned.
CASE 3.0042 (MINOR) (Continued) . Application by SIGN TECH for architectural
approval of two main identification signs, an attraction board for a six
plex motion picture theater at the Courtyard, 789 E. Tahquitz Way
between Calle Alvarado/Calle E1 Segundo, C-1-AA Zone, Section 14. (Ref.
Case 3.309.)
Chairman abstained; Vice Chairman presided.
M/S/C (Curtis/Neel ; Ealy/Kaptur/Madsen abstained) tabling the item till
later in the meeting.
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT ITEM
CASE 5.0405-CUP. Initiation by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS of a conditional use
permit to allow construction and operation of a public park (McCallum
Desert Reserve) on El Cielo Road, north of Sonora Road, W-R-1-C Zone,
Section 19.
Planner (Evans) presented the project and stated that the review will be
of the environmental assessment only with the public hearing scheduled
for June 11. He stated that the McCallum property was donated to the
City with open space deed restrictions, and that the idea will be to
landscape an area that will represent desert regions throughout the
southwest. He stated that the plan was a concept and that the AAC
recommended changes as follows: Roadway to be relocated to the north
adjacent to the Tahquitz Wash so that the internal portions of the park
are not disturbed by vehicular traffic; that the roadway proposed to be
gravel be paved (the Traffic Engineer agrees with this condition) ; and
that a special entry wall be used (per Frank Lloyd Wright) which
utilizes boulders set in concrete. He explained that the Director of
Community Services may have budgetary constraints regarding the wall ,
that there will be no significant adverse effects on the environment and
the project will enhance the area and provide access to the equestrian
facility. He stated the Traffic Engineer recommends keeping Sonora in
its present configuration, feeling that two access points are better
than one.
M/S/C (Curtis/Ealy) ordering the preparation of a Draft Negative
Declaration and continuing the application to June 11.
4" NOTE: Brief discussion ensued on extending the roadway to the north.
Commissioners Ealy and Lapham indicated that they would like to be able
to drive through the park as long as the road is paved.
May 28, 1986 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 21
CASE 3.0042 (MINOR) . Application by SIGN TECH for architectural approval of
two main identification signs, an attraction board for a six plex motion
picture theater at the Courtyard, 789 E. Tahquitz Way between Calle
Alvarado/Calle El Segundo, C-1-AA Zone, Section 14. (Ref. Case 3.309. )
Chairman abstained; Vice-Chairman presided.
M/S/C (Curtis/Neel ; Madsen/Kaptur/Ealy abstained) removing the item from
the table.
Planning Director explained that two signs are proposed with black metal
letters in a script form and a different location than what was
originally indicated. He stated that the AAC recommended that the sign
be on the east side, that the reader board be separated and integrated,
and that the color combination proposed is a black background with white
letters. He stated that staff recommended burgandy rather than the red
trim because of the color problems of the Courtyard complex, and that
also staff feels that the type of letter does not lend itself to the
project as it is a cartoon type of style but that the AAC did not
comment on the style.
Commissioner Lapham commented that the building is stiff and formal .
M/S/C (Curtis/Neel ; Ealy/Kaptur/Madsen abstained) for a restudy noting
the following:
1. That the reader board be recessed into the wall for a maximum
!� projection of five (5) inches.
2. That the sign be integrated on the north elevation with the reader
board.
3. That the color, location, and script style of the sign be
restudied.
4. That the sign on the east elevation is approved as to sign and
location but that the script letter style shall be restudied.
NOTE: Planning Director stated that at the Big 5 complex on South Palm
Canyon a script style lettering was approved, and it is difficult to
read because of lack of negative space around the letters.
CASE 3.0043 (MINOR). Application by GEORGE MARANTZ for architectural approval
of addition of windows on the north elevation of a building, 1000 block
S. Palm Canyon Drive, CBD Zone, Section 15.
Planning Director showed a photo of the building as originally approved
and with two recent holes cut into the building and requested that the
Commissioners review the building individually in the field.
M/S/C (Kaptur/Neel ; Ealy/Madsen abstained) continuing the application to
June 11 for a field review by the AAC and Planning Commission.
May 28, 1986 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 22
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS. (Continued)
CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS. Update on City Council actions.
'�.. - Noise Study. Noise consultants from Fayetteville, Arkansas will be
retained by the City to study airport noise, especially engine run-ups
which check performance and are very noisy.
- Draft Residential Survey. Input required from Commission as soon as
possible since study session of May 21 was cancelled.
- Commission Vacation Sign-up Sheet. Circulated to Commissioners to
indicate their vacation dates.
- Review of AAC Process. Council is requesting review of the process may
be revised.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Chairman adjourned the
meeting at 5 :30 p.m.
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Council Chamber, City Hall
June 11 , 1986
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1985 - 1986
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to date
Paul Madsen , Chairman - 20 1
Hugh Curtis X 21 0
Hugh Kaptur X 19 2
Larry Lapham X 21 0
Curt Ealy X 16 0
Earl Neel X 12 0
Staff Present
Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director
Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney
Fred Hawkins, Director of Community Services
Carol Vankeeken, Planner
Douglas Evans , Planner
John Terell , Redevelopment Planner
Dave Forcucci , Zoning Enforcement
Diana Ericksen, Community Development Coordinator
Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee - June 9, 1986
J. Cioffi , Chairman Absent: William Johnson
Chris Mills
Earl Neel
Tom Doczi
Curt Ealy
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
M/S/C (Curtis/Ealy; Kaptur absent) approving minutes of May 28, 1986 with the
following corrections :
Page 2, line 11, change "part" to "park" (CIP).
Page 14, sixth paragraph, line 3, change "fence" to "since" (Case 3.997/TPM
21492)
Page 18, fifth paragraph, line 2, change "Aamerops" to "Chamerops" (Case 3.959) .
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