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Council Chamber, City Hall
November 28, 1984
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1984 - 1985
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to date
Richard Service, Chairman X 9 0
Hugh Curtis X 8 1
Hugh Kaptur X 8 1
Peter Koetting X 6 3
Don Lawrence - 7 2
Paul Madsen X 7 2
Sharon Apfelbaum X 7 2
Staff Present
Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director
Douglas R. Evans, Planner III
Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney
Robert Green, Planner III
Margo Williams, Planner II
Allen Smoot, Building and Safety Director
Dave Forcucci, Zoning Enforcement Officer
John Terell, Redevelopment Planner
Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee Present - November 26, 1984
James Cioffi, Chairman Absent: William Johnson
Earl Neel
Michael Buccino
Hugh Curtis
Chris Mills
Sharon Apfel baum
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
M/S/C (Apfelbaum/Curtis; Lawrence absent) approving minutes of November 14,
1984 with the following correction:
Page 11 Case 5.0343-CZ Paragraph 5. Rephrase as follows: "Planning
Director stated that neither bans nor free standing restaurants are allowed
in R-2 zoning, even under a CUP."
There were no Tribal Council comments.
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CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
tr The following items are routine in nature and have been reviewed by the
Planning Commission, AAC, and staff. No further review is required, and
action is taken by one blanket motion upon unanimous consent.
M/S/C (Curtis/Koetting; Lawrence absent taking the following actions:
CASE 3.768 (Minor) (Continued) . Application by THE REGENT HOTEL for architec-
tural approval of awnings and revised exterior material for hotel at 960
N. Palm Canyon, C-1/R-3 Zones, Section 10.
Approved subject to the following conditions:
1. That the blue color is acceptable.
2. That the awning length be as per plan (shown on the right side).
3. That the awning be boxed or tailored style.
4. That the area above the Indian Avenue awning be stucco.
SIGN APPLICATION (Continued). Application by SUN SIGNS for A to Z Rentals for
architectural approval pproval of two revised main identification signs at 4545
Ramon Road, M-1 Zone, Section 19.
Continued to December 12, 1984.
SIGN APPLICATION (Continued). Application by R. LYONS for Ram's Hotel and
Restaurant Supply for architectural approval of main identification sign
for business at 4775 E. Ramon Road, M-1 Zone, Section 19.
Removed from the agenda, pending submission of plans by the applicant.
CASE 3.616. Application by J. M. PETERS COMPANY for architectural approval of
detailed landscape plans for a 240-unit condominium project on E1 Cielo
Road between Ramon Road/Baristo Road, R-3 Zone, Section 13.
Landscape: Approved, subject to restudy of the following species
Cupaniopsis Anacardiodes and Eugenia.
Streetscape: Restudy, noting the following:
1. That plant materials and shrubs undulate to compliment the mean-
dering sidewalk and streetscape.
2. That the slope on the mounds be increased.
3. That interior carports street trees be relocated to the perimeter
of planters to provide visual relief in the rows of carports.
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CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
CASE 3.711. Application by M. BUCCINO for M. Hemstreet for architectural
approval of landscape plans for 125-unit hotel on N. Palm Canyon Drive
between Vista Chino/Via Escuela, C-1 and R-3 Zones, Section 3.
Approved subject to the following conditions:
1. That the pool fence plans be submitted to staff.
2. That the tree sizes along the street be upgraded.
3. That larger scale detail of the southwest corner streetscape be
submitted and approved by staff.
4. That interior planters wrap around wing walls and screen the air
conditioning units.
5. That the architectural detail of the substructures (pool house,
gazebo) be reviewed by the AAC.
6. That street palms which are to be relocated be coordinated with
the Parks Department.
7. That the interior walk corridor have a focal point (to be reviewed
by the AAC).
CASE 3.747. Application by H. HARRIS for Combs Gates Aviation for architec-
tural approval of landscape plans for aircraft storage hangar on airport
property, Camino Bombero, "A" Zone, Section 13.
Approved subject to the following conditions:
1. That 4-foot berms or wall be placed in the street setback area to
screen the parking area.
2. That the palm row and ground cover be duplicated on the east side
of the driveway behind the 6-foot wall .
3. That undersized pea gravel be used as a ground cover on the
Airport Operations side.
CASE 3.777 (Minor). Application W. SORRENTINO for Indian Wells Date Shop for
architectural approval of new awning (with sign) for business at 364 N.
Palm Canyon Drive, C-B-D Zone, Section 15.
Approved as submitted.
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CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
CASE 5.0128 - PD-107. Application by H. MAXWELL for architectural approval of
final development plans (landscape) for a condominium development on
East Palm Canyon Drive, R-3 and R-G-A(6) Zones, Section 25.
Approved subject to the following condition: that landscaping on the
east side of the building be reviewed by staff after construction, prior
to final occupancy of approval .
SIGN APPLICATION. Application by UNION OIL COMPANY for architectural approval
of gas rate sign for gasoline station at Smoketree Village, the south-
east corner of East Palm Canyon Drive/Sunrise Way, C-D-N Zone, Section
25.
Approved as submitted.
CASE 7.578-AMM. Application by OSTER-McNEEL CONSTRUCTION CO. for architec-
tural approval of entry gate for a single-family residence at 1188
Tamarisk Road, R-1 Zone, Section 11.
Approved as submitted.
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Removed from Consent Agenda)
The Planning Commission reviewed plans, discussed, and took action on
the following items involving architectural approval subject to the con-
ditions as outlined.
CASE 3.231 (Continued) . Application by SWR DEVELOPMENT CO. for architectural
approval of window details for condominium complex on E. Palm Canyon
Drive between Gene Autry Trail/Broadmoor Drive, R-3 Zone, Section 30.
Planning Director stated that the application was continued for field
review and additional comments and recommendations; and that the devel-
oper will be willing to post a five-year maintenance bond for future
maintenance problem of the window detail and will record this fact in
the real estate report.
C. Reeder, S. W. R. Corporation, stated that more of the window detail
has been constructed because of AAC approval on November 12 and that he
had seen some of the Commissioners reviewing the details in the field.
Planning Director described the method of installation of the window
detail and stated that the horizontal wood members do not reach to the
plaster element which should be corrected, and also that the plaster
around the windows should be repainted the color of the wood.
Commissioner Kaptur stated that in his field review, he found that the
boards were beginning to warp in one instance and that the correct
detail was included in the construction documents. He stated that he
could not support the revised ,detail since the element is different from
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CONSENT ACTION AGENDA
CASE 3.231 (Cont'd.)
what was approved and will be a maintenance problem after the five year
guarantee has expired. He stated that "plant-ons" do not have inte-
grated structural strength.
Chairman agreed, stating that he voted against continuance from the
November 14 meeting because he felt that although the developer could
make the "plant-ons" appear visually correct from the street, the long-
term maintenance and appearance would suffer from the "band-aid" type
approach. He stated that had the detail been submitted in plan check,
it would not have been approved by the Commission, and also that the
developer continued working after being "red-tagged" by the Building
Division and the developer now states that he has continued construction
of the detail on other buildings. He stated that there should be metal
clad materials on the windows to prevent maintenance problems.
Commissioner Curtis stated that the developer should be willing to cor-
rect the mistake and that if an acceptable "band-aid" cannot be found,
the developer should construct the detail as it was originally approved.
He stated that the Planning Commission should not consent to anything
less than a quality project.
Mr. C. Reeder suggested several alternatives for the window detail ,
including painting the outside corner in a darker color giving the
effect of wood, which he thought had been discussed at a previous AAC
meeting. In response to Chairman's question, he stated that another
coat of stucco would be applied and finished to resemble wood. He
requested direction on the alternative and stated that another possi-
bility would be to apply mini-brick around the balconies which he
thought had been discussed at an AAC meeting.
M/S/C (Koetting/Curtis; Lawrence absent) denying the approach proposed
by the application and directing that the applicant construct the detail
as originally approved.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
CASE 5.0333 AND TTM 20435. Application by V. PIROZZI for a Change of Zone
from "0" to "R-1-C" or other designation as the Planning Commission
deems appropriate on Via Miraleste between Francis Drive/Racquet Club
Road, "0" Zone, Section 2.
(Commission response to written comments on draft Negative Declaration
and final approval .)
Recommendation: That the Planning Commission order the filing of a
Negative Declaration and approve Case 5.0333-CZ and TTM 20435 subject to
conditions.
Planner II (Williams) gave a brief staff report and stated that there
are no mitigative impacts from the proposal .
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CASE 5.0333 AND TTM 20435 (Cont'd.)
Chairman declared the hearing open; there being no appearances, the
hearing was closed.
M/S/C (Curtis/Madsen; Lawrence absent) approving Case 5.0333-CZ and TTM
20435 with the following findings and subject to the following
condition:
FINDINGS
1. That the proposed change of zone is in conformity with the General
Plan.
2. That the site is suitable for the uses permitted in the proposed
zoning district.
3. That the proposed change of zone is necessary and proper at this
time and is not likely. to be detrimental to the adjacent proper-
ties or residences.
4. That the proposed map is in compliance with the minimum standards
of the R-1-C Zone.
5. That the proposed map is in compliance with the General Plan and
its objectives.
6. That the proposed map will not be detrimental to the health,
safety or welfare of the the City or neighborhood.
CONDITION
That all Development Committee recommendations be adopted as conditions
of approval .
CASE 5.0341-PD-163 (Continued). Application by CDS DEVELOPMENT OF CA, INC.
for a p an�ned development district to allow construction of a 120 unit
motor hotel on N. Palm Canyon Dr. between Zanjero Road/Via Olivera,
C-1, and R-G-A(6) Zones, Section 3. A General Plan amendment would be
required to facilitate this planned development district.
Planning Director stated that the application was continued for discus-
sion at the November 21 study session and that if the Commission feels
that it is an appropriate application, it can be continued or removed
from the agenda for a General Plan study, or the application can be
denied without further review or can be denied without prejudice from
staff to complete a study of land use and zoning in the area. He stated
that there was a consensus at the study session that zoning patterns
will inhibit good development of the area; and that there is no definite
character either existing or desired, but that moderate cost hotels or
strip commercial seemed not to illicit interest, and that hotel and
strip commercial uses as well as office uses would have to be explored.
He stated that staff had not had time to develop a program for develop-
ment of the area, and that some direction on the character of the neigh-
borhood should be expressed by the Commission.
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CASE 5.0341-PD-163 (Cont'd.)
Commissioner Kaptur suggested that the application be continued
(possibly to January 9) for a staff report.
Chairman stated that the applicant is asking for a 43-unit per acre
density; and that the increased density should be reviewed considering
the entire area. He suggested that the developer be informed if the
Commission feels that 43-units per acre is too dense, or if the Commis-
sion wishes to defer the application until a General Plan Amendment is
developed.
Planning Director, in response to Commission question, stated that there
is no sufficient Commission direction for a General Plan hearing, except
for consolidation of lots, and that staff had not felt any consensus by
the Commission regarding character of the area. He stated that although
the area had been a redevelopment survey study, the necessary findings
for blight and other problems for it to be included in a redevelopment
project area could not be made by the Redevelopment staff since there
are other higher priority areas to be addressed in the City. He noted
that the Redevelopment Director requested goals and policies from the
Commission and Council in order to establish a Redevelopment Project
Area. He explained that lot sizes and incentives can be established in
the Zoning Ordinance without a redevelopment project area but future
development patterns might not be acceptable to the Commission with this
kind of criteria. He explained that there are two different characters
on the east and west sides of Palm Canyon; and that the General Plan
Amendment could be considered for the east side with a future amendment
for the west side, and that the Commission could take action on a
General Plan Amendment for the east side even though the proposed hotel
project is not acceptable and that conditions could be developed for
hotels on a limited basis if hotel development is acceptable to the
Commission in that area.
Commission Kaptur stated that, for the applicant's information, on a
project at the entrance of the City 43-units per acre is too dense.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
J. Meyers, owner of adjacent corner property, requested approval ,
stating that he is going to develop his property possibly as a profes-
sional building and integrate the design with the subject proposal .
Ms. Rita Waters, representing CDS Development Company, stated she
appreciated the time spent on the proposal and that she understood the
problem of high density at the entrance of the City, but that the owner
hopes to develop at the 43-unit per acre density of C-1 zoning. She
stated that she felt that an acceptable project could be developed and
that the north end needs to enhance and invite development.
There being no further appearances, the hearing was closed.
Chairman stated that, if the proposal averages R-G-A(6) and C-1 zoning,
R-2 zoning results, (20 units per acre), which is compatible with the
neighborhood to the east.
Commissioner Curtis suggested that staff develop information on the 4 or
5 sites which can be combined through land assemblage, and that a possi-
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CASE 5.0341-PD-163 (Cont'd. )
ble solution would be for additional housing which would benefit the
community. He stated that the he was in opposition to an increase in
density which becomes an eyesore, and that C-1 zoning density is not the
solution.
Commissioner Kaptur stated that an acceptable program would be the
combination of lots for a larger scope of development.
Commissioner Madsen agreed that larger types of development with set-
backs and buffers would be acceptable and that development should be
encouraged, but that 43-units per acre density would probably not be
reasonable on all parcels in the area.
Planning Director stated that 43 units per acre is hotel density, since
apartments and condos on C-1 zoned land take density from the R-3 Zone
(21 d.u./acre), and that the only 43 unit per acre project in the City
is the apartment project on Sunrise next to Alpha-Beta.
M/S/C (Madsen/Kaptur; Lawrence absent; Koetting abstained) denying the
hotel application, based on the following findings:
1. That a PD application is appropriate for the consideration of this
proposal .
2. That the use is not in harmony with the elements, objectives and
densities of the General Plan.
3. That the site is adequate in size and shape to accommodate the
use.
4. That the site is serviced by North Palm Canyon Drive, a major
thoroughfare with adequate capacity, to serve the proposed use.
Chairman requested that Commission discuss a staff study of the area.
Consensus was that hotel uses, combinations of parcels, sensitivity to
the entrance of the City, incentives, inclusion in a redevelopment
project area, inclusion of the entire City in a redevelopment project
area, and discouragement of small parcels on the west side of the street
should be explored.
Commissioner Kaptur suggested a study session to discuss the items to be
included in the study.
M/S/C (Kaptur/Curtis; Koetting abstained; Lawrence absent) directing
staff to study the subject area, taking/consideration Commission direc-
tions as noted above. into
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ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS
CASE 3.231 (Continued. Application by SWR DEVELOPMENT CO. for architectural
approval of indow details for condominium complex on E. Palm Canyon
Drive between Gene Autry Trail/Broadmoor Drive, R-3 Zone, Section 30.
Chairman requested a motion. if the Commission desired to reconsider the
denial of the application for revised window details for discussion with
the developers who had just come to the meeting.
Motion was made by Madsen to reconsider the action. The motion died for
lack of a second.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Chairman stated that the developer could speak for three minutes on his
project.
S. Reeder of SWR Corporation requested help from the Commission, since
he had inherited problems from builders no longer associated with the
project. He stated that he would post a bond and place a condition in
the CC&R's for the maintenance of the window details for the life of the
project. He explained there was a problem with the original design
during construction, and revisions were made in the field which did not
meet original requirements. He requested direction on alternative solu-
tions from the Commission.
Chairman stated that a solution for the problems would be left to the
developer, but that the revisions made in the field were denied. He
stated that the Commission wanted a long-term solution to the problem
and that Mr. Reeder had mentioned a longer term solution than what was
mentioned earlier. He stated that the' Commission action can be appealed
to the City Council.
Mr. Reeder stated that economics sometimes forces lower standards and
that he would appeal to the Council.
Commissioner Koetting suggested that the developer contact staff for
ideas.
Mr. Reeder stated that he had not attended meetings previously because
of presentation of alternatives by persons working with him, but that he
wanted the project to be acceptable because it is very visible, since it
is located at an important intersection, and because it will be his
first completed project.
Chairman stated that the applicant could obtain direction on timely sub-
mittal of an appeal from the Planning staff for review at the December
19 City Council meeting.
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CASE 3.776 Minor Application by R. C. ELLIS for architectural approval of
�Fi-Tlsi a grading to allow storage of mobilehomes in conjunction with
Safari Trailer Park, R-TP Zone, Section 30.
Planning Director stated that the application is for grading of a knoll
on the west boundary of Safari Trailer Park for storage of RV's and
travel trailers. He stated that some work had been completed because of
confusion in what type of grading permit was issued and that the AAC
recommended restoration of the area to its original condition and
replanting of vegetation, although there is a possibility that the area
cannot be fully restored.
R. C. Ellis, the applicant, stated he was present to answer questions
and that the pad would be for storage of campers, motorhomes and
trailers; and has been used in this manner for many years.
Planning Director stated that a letter had been received from Horizon
Mobilehome Park which has a view of the area, stating that the park
residents had no objection.
Discussion followed on the site's visibility from other parts of the
City. Planning Director stated that some of the homes in Southridge can
see the site and that the AAC felt it was not appropriate to grade off
the toe of the mountain for storage of travel trailers. Commissioner
Kaptur stated that the Commission should be the body to determine the
importance and suggested that landscaping could possibly hide the site.
Planning Director stated that if the cut were landscaped properly, it
would be acceptable, but that he did not know whether or not the appli-
cant would do it correctly, and that a landscape architect should submit
the plans.
Discussion continued on compaction of the site. Commissioner Koetting
suggested paving, a retaining wall, and a vegetation plan. Planning
Director stated that his original suggestion was for Eucalyptus and
Oleander, but possibly the area should be renaturalized. He stated that
the permit indicates that a 270 foot wall of undetermined height was to
be constructed, but that the permit was issued 4 years ago and the
permit center staff does not remember the details. He stated that the
grading was red-tagged.
Discussion continued on the restoration plan. Commissioner Kaptur
directed applicant to provide a restoration or landscape plan prepared
by a landscape architect before any further grading occurs.
M/S/C (Koetting/Apfelbaum; Lawrence absent) aRprovinq the hillside grad-
ing application, subject to the following conditions:
1. That a landscape restoration plan be submitted (prepared by land-
scape architect) and approved by the Commission.
2. That there be no grading on the site until the landscape restora-
tion plan is approved.
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ADDED STARTER
CASE 3.626. Application by W. KLEINDIENST for the City of Palm Springs for
architectural approval of revised exterior color for cogeneration plant
on El Cielo Road between Tahquitz-McCallum Way/Camino Bombero, GR-5
Zone, Section 13.
Planning Director stated that finishing is taking place on the cogenera-
tion plant behind City Hall and several staff people have indicated that
a color revision should be considered as a paint color rather than being
included in the water seal coat. He stated that he suggested that the
Building and Safety Director contact the architect for discussion at the
meeting.
Building and Safety Director stated that the architect was told to match
the City Hall color which is pink, that the building is a distance away,
but that pink is not the most acceptable color.
Chairman suggested that a paint which is graffiti-proof be used on the
building.
M/S/C (Kaptur/Koetting; Lawrence absent; Service dissented) that staff
work with the architect to choose a suitable color for the building.
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Continued)
CASE 3.741 (Minor) (Continued). Application by J. BUND for Livreri 's Italian
Restaurant for architectural approval of final landscape plans and
revised elevations for restaurant at 250 to 254 S. Indian Avenue, C-2
Zone (I.L. ), Section 14.
Planning Director stated that the AAC had no opinion and suggested Plan-
ning Commission review.
Planner III (Williams) stated that two parts of the open work of the
canopy were not removed as shown on the plan.
M/S/C (Kaptur/Madsen; Lawrence absent; Service abstained) approving
final landscape plans and revised elevations (fascia change) as sub-
mitted).
Chairman left the meeting at this point.
3.728 (Minor). Application by H. LEWIS for Hamburger Hamlet for architectural
approval of outdoor dining and exterior colors for restaurant at 105 N.
Palm Canyon Drive, C-B-D Zone, Section 15.
Chairman was absent; Vice Chairman presided.
Planning Director stated that the canopy was repainted from green to
white, French doors were painted white, and that the applicant (on an
interim basis before the DeBartolo hotel project is completed) wishes to
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CASE 3.728 (Minor). (Cont'd.)
create a patio for outdoor dining adjacent to the French doors. He
stated that a land use permit is required and that the application has
been made.
M/S/C (Madsen/Kaptur; Lawrence and Service absent) approving the appli-
cation as submitted.
Chairman returned to the meeting.
CASE 5.0275 - PD-147. Application by REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY for architectural
approval of fence for O'Donnell Golf Course as part of remodel of Desert
Fashion Plaza Project and 207-room hotel on North Palm Canyon Drive,
north of Tahquitz-McCallum Way, C-B-D Zone, Section 15.
Planner III (Green) presented the project and stated that the AAC recom-
mended that the fence be denied.
Redevelopment Planner stated that the request to add the fence came from
the golf course administration.
Discussion followed on the height of the proposed fence and landscaping.
Commissioner Kaptur suggested deletion of the Eucalyptus trees and sug-
gested that consideration be made of no changes until there is a
problem.
M/S/C (Kaptur/Koetting; Lawrence absent; Curtis dissented) approving the
following:
1. That the 26 foot high fence is denied.
2. That the landscaping is approved, except that the Eucalyptus trees
are to be deleted.
3. That the six foot high golf course fence on Belardo is approved.
NOTE: Commissioner Curtis dissented because he felt that the Eucalyptus
trees should not be deleted and should remain as a barrier.
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
DETERMINATION 10.347. Planning Commission determination that outside display
and storage of motor oil falls within the prohibition of outside activi-
ties in gasoline service stations, citywide.
Planning Director stated that the determination was placed on the agenda
relative to the Mobil station at 1708 North Palm Canyon Drive where
there are displays of oil on the gasoline islands and that there is a
difference of opinion between staff and the City Attorney on Ordinance
interpretation.
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DETERMINATION 10.347. (Cont'd. )
In response to Chairman's question, Assistant City Attorney explained
his position by stating that he equates the storage container with gas
pumps and air and water hoses which are used for routine tasks on the
islands and that the container is not an advertising display.
Chairman commented that, if the City uses the statement as a test, the
entire Ordinance is out of synchronization, and that the purpose of the
Ordinance is to prohibit outside display.
Assistant City Attorney explained that his statement applies to service
routinely performed on the island, and that if the case were in court,
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he could not win.
Planning Director stated that the particular container is well-designed
in a high-tech way, but it allows storage and display of oil and the key
is that, if it displays oil, it is prohibited by Ordinance; and if it
does not display oil , staff has no problem.
City Attorney concurred with Planning Director's statement. Planning
Director stated that any operation and storage must be inside a perma-
nent structure.
Commissioner Kaptur stated that storage of a day's supply of oil for
efficiency should be allowed.
M/S/C (Curti s/Apfelbaum; Lawrence absent; Service dissented) determining
`-' that outside storage of motor oil is an allowable use in gasoline
service stations citywide, provided that the oil is not displayed for
advertising purposes.
Planning Director requested clarification. Commissioner Koetting stated
that the motion is that the oil be locked in a cabinet.
Chairman stated that the Commission has set a precedent which will be
difficult to enforce and that the City has been trying to regulate
service stations since the 60's to make them good neighbors. He stated
that he felt that a company would not go to court over a display cabi-
net.
Assistant City Attorney stated that, if the company went to court, his
office would not be successful in defending the City.
Discussion followed on the necessity for oil can storage. Planning
Director agreed that enforcement would be very difficult, since staff
will have to determine what is appropriate and what is not in the
service islands.
Discussion continued. Chairman stated that the cabinets will prolifer-
ate. Commissioner Kaptur stated that the determination is sensible.
Assistant City Attorney stated that in cities without the Ordinance, the
devices are usually not abused and that most of the containers are simi-
lar to those being discussed. Zoning Enforcement Officer stated that
the newest design is "A" frame oil racks for outside display.
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DETERMINATION 10.347. (Cont'd.)
Discussion continued. Chairman suggested that there be an approved
design as a prototype. Commissioner Kaptur stated that oil racks for
display or sale of oil are not allowed (Assistant City Attorney stated
that he understood).
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Continued)
CASE 3.754. Application by M. SIPA for architectural approval of a 4-unit
apartment building at 200 Saturmino Drive between Calle Lileta/Brewster
Road, R-2 Zone, Section 13.
M/S/C (Madsen/Koetting; Lawrence absent) for a restudy, noting the fol-
lowing:
1. That the structure have a residential scale.
2. That the entry be enhanced.
3. That the pool area be revised. (It was suggested that a jacuzzi
may be more appropriate, given space available.)
4. That the parapet detail be examined to ensure that it can be con-
structed.
5. That the landscaping relate to the building.
CASE 3.761. Application by C D & E BUILDERS for architectural approval of
single-family residence at 538 West Stevens Road, R-1-A Zone, Section
10.
Discussion ensued at the display board. Commissioner Kaptur suggested
that the tennis courts be changed to an east/west configuration.
M/S/C (Kaptur/Madsen; Lawrence absent) for the following:
1. A restudy of the site plan to turn the tennis court to an
east west configuration to allow the residents to move further
north and provide more space around the pool area and to create a
more interesting wall facing the street.
2. A restudy of the the arch to integrate its design into the archi-
tecture of the residence.
TTM 19544. Revised application by LAND CONCERN, LTD. for Penn Phillips Prop.
for architectural approval of final landscape, irrigation and exterior
lighting plans for auto park on the southwest corner of Ramon Road, M-1-
P Zone (I.L.) , Section 20.
Planning Director stated that the project is at a standstill and that
the Economic Development Division is working with the developer to
obtain a saleable package for auto dealers, and that some grading has
been approved on the site. He stated that site is leased (not fee
land). he
Planner III (Evans) stated that the developer has requested down-sizing
of the trees, but staff felt that it was not a legitimate request
because of the high winds in the area and that multi-trunk trees were
suggested by the AAC, although not included in its motion.
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Chairman stated that Crossley will be an important road and the project
landscape will set the theme on the street. He stated that the main
street tree on Crossley should not be deciduous.
Commissioner Apfelbaum stated that the landscape design submitted had no
feel for the desert.
M/S/C (Kaptur/Madsen; Lawrence absent) for a restudy of the landscape
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plan, noting the following:
1. That 80 percent of the street trees be 24-inch box size or greater
and provided with an automatic drip irrigation system.
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2. That the shrub plan include hearty wind-resistent shrubs.
3. That the California Pepper Tree or alternate tree be substituted
for the Camphor tree.
4. That one- to three-foot mounds be constructed along Crossley Road.
5. That all onsite palms be Washingtonia Filifera (sizes to be sub-
mitted).
6. That landscape plans reflect the desert environment.
7. That no deciduous tree be used on Crossley Road.
COMMISSION, REPORT AND DISCUSSION
Convention Steering Committee Meeting. Planning Director reminded
Chairman and Commissioner Apfe baum, who are representatives to the Con-
vention Center Steering Committee, that there would be a Committee meet-
ing (after the Commission meeting) from 5 - 7 p.m. in the Large Con-
ference Room.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Chairman adjourned the
meeting at 4:30 p.m.
P1 Dir ctor
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