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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1984/08/08 - MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES Council Chamber, City Hall August 8, 1984 1:30 p.m. ROLL CALL F-Y 1.984 - 1985 Present Present Excused Absences Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to date Richard Service, Chairman X 3 0 Hugh Curtis X 2 1 Hugh Kaptur X 3 0 Peter Koetting - 2 1 Don Lawrence X 2 1. Paul Madsen X 3 0 Sharon Apfelbaum X 1 1 Staff Present Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney George Parmenter, Traffic Engineer Douglas R. Evans, Planner III Robert Green, Planner III Margo Williams, Planner II Diana Ericksen, Community Development Coordinator John Terell , Redevelopment Planner Dave Forcucci , Zoning Enforcement Officer Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary Architectural Advisory Committee Present - August 6, 1984 Michael Buccino Earl Neel Chris Mills William Johnson Hugh Curtis Sharon Apfelbaum Absent: James Cioffi, Chairman i Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m. Minutes of the July 25, 1.984, meeting will be reviewed at the August 22 j meeting. j i i i August 8, 1984 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 2 CONSENT ACTION AGENDA M/S/C (Lawrence, Apfelbaum; Koetting absent) taking the following actions: CASE 3.392. Application by TKD for M. Fife for architectural approval of landscape plans for single-family residence on Stephens Road between Via Monte Vista/Rose Avenue, R-1-A Zone, Section 10. Approved subject the following conditions: That the Tecomaria Capensis be replaced Caroline and Cherry "bright n tight" (Prunus Caroliniaria) along the perimeter and replaced by Xylosma underneath the Ficus Nitida. CASE 3.709 (Minor) . Application by MCKINNEY-BGW, INC. for architectural approval of revised detail material for building on the northwest corner of Arenas Road/South Palm Canyon Drive, C-B-D Zone, Section 15. Approved subject to trim details in paint color for plaster areas being reviewed and approved by AAC and Commission. CASE 3.71.9 (Minor) . Application by R. ROBERTS for architectural approval of a wall on hillside residential dwelling at 375 E. Portal , R-1-B Zone, Section 27. Restudy noting the following: I. That the wall design he more sympathetic to the existing house. 2. That a more detailed drawing for the entire east elevation be submitted. PUBLIC HEARINGS CASE 5.0323-PD-158 (Continued) . Application by NATIONAL UNIVERSITY for a planned development district to allow establishment of an institution of higher learning at 2800 E. Alejo Road between Commercial Road/Civic Drive, M-1-P Zone, Section 12. (Commission response to written comments on draft negative declaration, action for filing, and final approval . No comments received. ) Recommendation: That the Commission order the filing of a Negative Declaration and approve PD-1.58 subject to conditions. Planner II stated that the applicants will be required additional conditions of approval , to resurface the parking lot and add parking lot lighting and that the sign program has not been submitted. She stated that additional shade trees are recommended by staff on the northern part of the site because of the barrenness of the perimeter. Chairman declared the hearing open. r Dr. F. Huber, Chancellor of Palm Springs National University, stated that staffs recommendations were acceptable, that the University will provide a service to the community with flexible scheduling and hours and will grow as Palm Springs grows and that the facility was found by August 8, 1984 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 3 PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued) CASE 5.0323-PD-158 (Continued) the Vice-President of Administration of the University. He stated that signs will be requested similar to those of the Desert Museum and Desert Hospital as well as a monument sign in a location that can be seen from Civic and Alejo, and a sign on the end of the building. M. C. Cook, National University representative, stated that the signing will conform to the requirements of the City. T. Groffer, realtor, 584 Fern Canyon Drive, stated he has visited two campus's of the University and attended graduation ceremonies and has spoken with citizens of these two cities in which the Universities are built, and found that the University is an outstanding form of education supplementing other learning institutions and catering to adults in evening classes. Commissioner Lawrence said he would have to abstain from participation in the discussion since after conferring with the Assistant City Attorney he was advised because of property ownership in proximity to one of the University locations. C. Nichols, 899 N. Palm Canyon, requested approval , stating that he had learned from a son, that is a Professor at San Diego State and who has taught National University students, that the University is a high quality learning institution. M. C. Cook, requested that the staff condition requiring only night classes be deleted since public service seminars are held during the day. There being no further appearances, the hearing was closed. M/S/C (Apfelbaum, Madsen; Lawrence abstained; Koetting absent) ordering the filing of a Negative Declaration and approving PD-158 with the following findings subject to the following conditions: FINDINGS: 1. That the planned development district application is proper and authorized by the Zoning Ordinance, in this case to facilitate the development of an institution of higher education on a secondary thoroughfare. 2. That the form and type of educational facility proposed is necessary and highly desirable for the development of the community at this location and at this time, is in harmony with the various goals and objectives of the General Plan, and is not detrimental to uses existing or possible in the zone or general vicinity. 3. That the 4.74 net acre site is adequate in size and shape to accommodate the proposed intensity of development including setbacks, access, and vehicular circulation, landscaping, parking, and the like required to adjust this use to the vicinity and site on which it is proposed. August 8, 1984 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 4 PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued) CASE 5.0323-PD-158 (Continued) 4. That the subject site is serviced by Alejo Road a secondary thoroughfare, which has been designed to carry the quantity and type of traffic expected to b generated by this use. 5. That identifiable environmental impacts. are individually and cumulatively minor in nature and may be adequately mitigated with proper design and technology. CONDITIONS: 1. That all recommendations of Development Committee be met except Planning Condition #2 (night use only) be deleted. 2. An avigation easement and nonsuit covenant in form prescribed and approved by the City Attorney shall be provided prior to the occupancy of the building. 3. An acoustical analysis or similar document prepared by a licensed acoustical engineer shall be provided prior to the occupancy of the building. Said document shall determine interior noise levels and shall provide mitigation measures for an interior noise level not to exceed 45 CNEL. NOTE: The AAC recommended approval as submitted. The Planning Director stated that the P.D.D. application is scheduled for the August 15, City Council meeting. CASE 5.0321-CUP. By PALM SPRINGS RESTAURANTS, INC. , for a conditional use permit to allow a restaurant-nightclub at 440 S. Palm Canyon Drive, C-B- D Zone, Section 15. (This action is categorically exempt from environmental assessment per CEQA guidelines. ) Recommendation: That the Commission approve Case 5.0321-CUP subject to conditions of staff, Development Committee and AAC. Planning Director stated that recent changes in the CBD Ordinance required nightclubs obtain a conditional use permit, that the property had not been operating for six months and that the primary issue is parking. He stated the during the remodeling, of the former restaurant at the site, 20 parking spaces were lost and that a lesser seat count will be allowed until additional parking space is obtained. In response to Chairman' s question, he stated that no complaints were received when the former restaurant and a adjacent restaurant were operating at full capacity. Chairman stated that he was concerned about the removal of mature vegetation to provide parking space. Planning Director stated that the August 8, 1984 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 5 PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued) CASE 5.0321.-CUP (Continued) Indian Avenue perimeter will not be affected and that the only plant material that will be removed are citrus trees which the AAC thought should be replaced with fast growing shade trees. He stated that the restaurant can use the entire parking lot except for 29 spaces which will be used by the adjacent restaurant. Chairman declared the hearing closed. D. Guevara, 1091' Paseo El Mirador, requested approval because there are very few nightclubs for persons under 21. and stated that the proposed restaurant will help to alleviate the problem of congestion on the streets at the two existing nightclubs for young people. There being no further appearances the hearing was closed. Discussion followed on parking and occupancy requirements for the restaurant. Planning Director stated that there is no requirement for the number of persons allowed to stand in a facility, but that the applicant had to adhere to fire department regulations. Chairman stated that although there is no problem on the subject site there may be at a future location and the lack of requirements is a loop hole in the ordinance. M/S/C (Lawrence, Madsen; Koetting absent) approving CUP 5.0321 with the following findings and subject to the conditions: FINDINGS: 1. That the premises had been previously used for similar uses but had not been so used for at least six months prior to the current application. 2. That the Central Business District (CBD) Ordinance was recently amended requiring restaurants of all types to require a land use permit and nightclubs to require a conditional use permit. 3. That the proposed use is not more intensive than previous uses of the property. 4. That additional parking development is necessary to allow the intensity of use as proposed by the applicant. 5. That a revised site plan has been submitted which will allow the intensity of use outlined in the application. 6. That the restaurant/nightclub use as proposed is in keeping with the resort atmosphere of the community and is consistent with the goals and objectives outlined in the General Plan. 7. That the use is compatible with the surrounding land uses in the vicinit and is not detrimental to other uses allowed b the y Y Zoning Ordinance. i August 8, 1984 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 6 PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued) CASE 5.0321.-CUP (Continued) 8. That the applicant has demonstrated the ability to use the entire parking area for nighttime uses with the exception of parking necessary to accommodate the second restaurant located on the premises. 9. That the site is served by three major thoroughfares which are designed to carry the type and quantity of traffic generated by the use. CONDITIONS: 1. That the parking lot be remodeled to increase the parking count to 147 spaces. 2. That the occupancy of the restaurant be limited by the parking available, i .e., 126 seats during the day and 309 seats plus 1,250 s.f. of dance floor after 5 p.m. after the parking lot expansion plan is -implemented. 3. That the seating be limited to 48 seats during the day and 231 seats plus 1,2.50 s.f. of dance floor after 5 p.m. before the parking lot is expanded. 4. That all recommendations of the Development Committee is implemented. 5. That the exterior of the building be restrained and any loose or broken boards replaced. 6. That revised detailed landscape, irrigation, and signing plans be submitted and approved. 7. That a legal document giving the applicant the exclusive right to use the entire parking lot (except the 29 spaces used by Tony Romas) after 5 p.m. be submitted and approved by staff prior to the conditional use permit becoming effective. CASE 5.032.2-CUP. Application by A. GUEVARA for a conditional use permit for a room-niqhtclub on Research Road between Farrell Drive/Airport Road, M-1.-P Zone, Section 12. (Environmental assessment; tentative approval .) Recommendation: That the Planning Commission order the preparation of a Draft Negative Declaration, tentatively approve Case 5.0322 and continue the application to August 22, for Commission comments on written response as to the Draft Negative Declaration. Planning Director stated that staff recommends addition of two conditions as follows: August 8, 1984 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 7 PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued) CASE 5.0322-CUP (Continued) 6. That the Commission reserve the right to review the CUP on a complaint basis. 7. That the applicant upgrade the parking lot lighting standards per City zoning ordinance requirements. He stated that the occupancy requirements were determined on a reasonable daytime usage of the building and that a logical extention would be .a food service, which could be addressed on a seat basis. Commissioner Lawrence stated that the ordinance is unrealistic on its parking since more than two people will come by car, that the occupancy number will be difficult to enforce and that traffic could impact the residents on Farrell Drive. Planning Director stated that it is incumbant on the applicant to avoid impacting the neighborhood. Discussion followed on lighting for the project. Traffic Engineer stated that the amount of traffic, there is no need to illuminate the intersection of Farrell and Research. Ms. D. Guevara, 1091 Paseo E1 Mirado, stated that supervised organized nightclubs are needed for young people under 21 and would eliminate drinking parties at home and vandalism. Ms. Gloria Guevara, 1.091 Paseo E1 Mirado, also requested approval and ready letter to the editor of the Desert Sun dated July 20, 1.984, stating that young persons needing such as the subject one to go, or problems caused by bored teenagers could become worst and youths could become more hostile. A. Guevara, 1031. Paseo El Mirado, the applicant, requested approval and stated that . the area will be secured inside and out because his entire family would work inside the nightclub and he would not endanger them and that Palm Springs off-duty officers would be used outside. He stated that he cannot afford to have the City close the nightclub, that Friday and Saturday nights will be devoted to persons under 21 so that there will be no conflict with school attendance and that the remaining days will be devoted to adult activities, that there are very few homes in the area and that there is ample parking. In reply to Commission question he stated that a previous operation was closed by the City because it was on the second floor which was not built to support the type of occupancy which developed, that there was a liquor store, a restaurant and trailer park adjacent, and that the trailer tenants complained and that he had lost money on the lease on the former facility. He stated that the proposed facility will be successful since it is needed in the community. There being no further appearance, the meeting was closed. Commissioner Lawrence commented that the applicant and his family are providing a needed service. M/S/C (Lawrence, Madsen; Koetting absent) ordering the preparation of a Draft Negative Declaration, tentatively approving the application and continuing the case to August 22 for Commission response to written comments on the draft negative declaration. August 8, 1984 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 8 PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued) CASE 5.0325-GPA. Initiation by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS of an amendment to the General Plan text allowing hotels, resorts and the like in residential areas not otherwise specified for such development as long as the General Plan density is not exceeded, citywide, including all existing General Plan areas. (Environmental assessment; tentative approval . Recommendation: That the Commission continue the application to August 22 for a public hearing on the General Plan amendment in conjunction with a Zone Change application on Ramon and Sunrise. He stated that people in the audience should be heard, that there should be no impacts in the overall land use values in residential neighborhoods, since there are provisions in the ordinance that would mitigate intrusions in single family areas, and that probably no more than six sites will be developed in the next twelve years. Discussion followed on the implications on the proposed General Plan amendment. Planning Director in response to Chairman's question, stated that the policy could have a caveat in regard to requiring them on major or secondary thoroughfares and that infrastructure and services be available to the site. Chairman stated that the "Sundance" condominium/timeshare project on Avenida Caballeros caused a furor because of the traffic and noise. In reply to Commission questions, Planning Director stated that the Sundance Condos could become a hotel or resort and that staff suggested a La Mancha type of operation for the condominiums, which are on two secondary thoroughfares. He stated that perhaps the tribal council is concerned that the General Plan amendments may affect existing hotel zoning on land owned by the Indians in Section 14. He stated that studies reflect that environmental impacts from hotels are about equal to those of single family residences. Mrs. M. Tuminello, 2430 Palermo, spoke opposing the General Plan amendment, stating that hotel development should be allowed on individual basis only and should not be allowed in general . She stated that there are too many country clubs in the City presently and that there should be resort facilities available to all residents, that the City might use the eminent domain policy and request that no blanket approval be given. Chairman stated that the General Plan amendment would only allow an application and would require a public hearing. Mrs. M. Cooper, 475 La Palms, requested that the General Plan not be changed until applications are reviewed individually in a public hearing and no blank General Plan amendment passed allowing hotels in residential areas. There being no further appearances, the hearing was closed. M/S/C (Kaptur, Lawrence; Koetting absent; Madsen dissented) continued the case to September 12, tribal council input. August 8, 1984 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 9 PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued) . CASE 5.0325-GPA (Continued) TRIBAL COUNCIL COMMENTS: In keeping with its policy to consider all amendments to the City's General Plan, and after consideration of the recommendations of the Indian Planning Commission, the Tribal Council took the following actions: 1. Noted that this proposed amendment to the General Plan text would be a very significant change in the City's current land use policies related to hotel developments which were adopted in 1.966. 2. Questioned if all the issues that would be involved in this policy change have been identified and/or fully addressed in the analysis set forth in Planning Commission Staff Report dated August 8, 1984. 3. Expressed a strong concern that a Negative Declaration would not be appropriate in view of the potential significant environmental impacts of this proposed General Plan text amendment. 4. Requested that this matter be continued to the City Planning Commission's regularly scheduled meeting of September 1.2, I.W. The Indian Planning Commission and Tribal Planning Consultant have requested additional time to evaluate and comment on the potential ... impact of this proposed amendment on existing and future land use matters. PUBLIC COMMENTS None MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS CASE 5.0281-ZTA (Continued) . Initiation by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS for an amendment to the Sign Ordinance and its inclusion in the Toning Ordinance. i Planning Director presented the original Task Force and Commission recommendations (on file in the Planning Division, City Hall) for directional size for condominiums and plan development complexes, stating that staff recommends that these type of signs not be allowed and that the City Council would review the Sign Ordinance on September 19. August 8, 1984 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 10 MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Continued) CASE 5.0281.-ZTA (Continued) Commission Lawrence stated he would rather see no directional signing than the proposed wording, that the Merchants and Citizens Association was meeting at 5:30 p.m. on 8-8-84 to discuss the Sign Ordinance, that members of the Sign Ordinance Task Force will be in attendance at the meeting, and requested an continuance for input from the Task Force. He stated that he had attended a board of realtors meeting and realtors indicated little or no desire in off-site signing, which made him more wilding to approve the ordinance without the restrictive access wording. Commissioner Kaptur agreed stating that realtors indicated to him that off-site directional signs meant little in sales of residences. He stated that he felt that one segment of the population cannot be shown favoritism. Commissioner Apfelbaum congratuated the two commissioners for changing their stances regarding off-site directional signs. Commissioner Lawrence suggested that the open house directional sign wording be deleted and sent to the Council for review and public input. Commissioner Kaptur stated that the sector of the real industry who wanted the off site was the smaller office type of real estate business. M/S/C (Apfelbaum, Curtis;. Koetting absent; Madsen dissented) to delete the section regarding open house directional signing from the Sign Ordinance. Commission Madsen stated that he dissented because his position had not changed and he felt that one additional real estate open house sign was warranted in restricted access complexes. TENTATIVE TRACT AND PARCEL MAPS TTM 19396 (REF. CASES 3.616/5.0292-CUP) . Application by S. MORRIS CONSULTING ENGINEERS for J. M. Peters for approval of revised phasing plans for a tentative tract map to allow construction of a 240-unit condominium project on the northwest corner of E1 Cielo . Road/Ramon Road, R-3 Zone, Section 13. Planning Director described the phasing plan and stated that the entire site will be graded and overseeded to prevent blowsand. S. Morris, Engineer for the project, stated that many phases are planned to comply with the Department of Real Estate which requires bonding with each phase. He stated that there would be a 2 year build out of the project. Chairman stated that he felt that the project elevations were not pleasing. The case was continued till later in the agenda for staff to bring elevations to the Commission for their review. August 8, 1984 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 1.1. ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS CASE 3.71.4 (Continued) . Application by PALM SPRINGS ASSOCIATES for Fuddrucker Restaurant for architectural approval of revised elevations for restaurant at 262 S. Palm Canyon Drive (site of former Old World Restaurant), C-B-D Zone, Section 15. Chairman abstained; Commissioner Madsen presided. Planning Director stated that the AAC had not fully approved revised elevations until details are resubmitted by the applicant and that there no recommendations for signs. Redevelopment Planner explained the innovation parking plan proposed by the applicant (in file in the Planning Division Office). He stated that the applicant has obtained a parking lease for after 5:00 p.m. and that the bottom level of the restaurant used during the day and with the upper level only used a night, which is a logical division of space. Commissioner Lawrence commented that the proposal meets requirements of the ordinance but patrons will be aware of the parking lot. Planning Director stated that a condition of approval could be that signing on the Fuddruckers site indicates where additional parking is located. M/S/C (Lawrence, Curtis; Koetting absent; Service abstained) approving the application subject to the following conditions: 1. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be met. j 2. That the awning be revised over the ground floor entry area (details to relate to adjoining building). 3. That plant-on details be used in lieu of awnings over doors on the East elevation. i 4. That the lighting concept be restudied. 5. That details of the awning, including the materials and colors, be submitted for AAC and Planning Commission approval . R. Edrick, representing Fuddruckers stated that his company will comply with all recommendations. CASE 5.0303-PD-152 (Continued) . Application by C. MILLS for J. F. Temple for architectural approval of final development plans (Sunshine Villas landscaping and fence barrier between the bike path and condominiums) for golf course/condominium complex at Ramon Road/Farrell Drive, R-1.-C and W-R-1.-C Zones, Section 24 (some I.L. ) . Planning Director stated that the homeowners of Sunshine Villas are concerned because they have not seen the plan for Sunshine Villas landscaping and have other concerns such as tennis court setbacks which they feel are not as deep as the Commission approved, and that the developer is dumping construction materials on the Sunshine Villas property and that the residents also have landscape, bike path, and lighting concerns. Mrs. L. Howard, President of Sunshine Homeowners Association, stated that the homeowners are concerned with the security and requested August 8, 1984 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 12 ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Continued) CASE 5.0303-PD-152 (Continued) perimeter lighting around the Sunshine Villas fence. Chairman stated that here are no lighted bike paths in the City to discourage biking at night and that he felt the lighting might invite security problems. Discussion continued reference security lighting. Planner III presented the lighting plan on the display board and he stated that the developer is committed to some lighting, but there is not specific City requirement for lighting. Planner III stated that the lease agreement between the developer and the homeowner state that plans for the land leased to the developer require approval by the homeowners association, but that the developer has not met with the homeowners. Chairman stated that in the matter is a private one and not one that the Commission reviewed, and that health, safety and welfare only can be reviewed, but that a dispute between the developer and homeowners cannot be arbitrated by the Commission. Mrs Howard stated that the property is owned by the Sunshine Villas, that there are lights in the trees presently and that the dark areas are dangerous. She is requesting that the Commission consider the situation as a health and safety issue. Discussion continued. Planning Director stated that the only specific requirement for lighting is for parking lots. Assistant City Attorney stated that a review by the Commission and AAC are established in the ordinance and imposing one party will upon another party is not appropriate situation for Commission review. He stated that the Sunshine Villas Homeowner's Association can apply for approval of lighting plan for its property, the implementation of which would be between the homeowners and the developer. Mrs. Howard stated that the homeowners have always opposed the placement of tennis courts on the property, leased by Mr. Temple, and that the homeowners thought the tennis courts were further south. She stated also that Mr. Temple is using the homeowners property for a dump site. Discussion followed on landscaping provision. Planner III stated that the developer is committed to landscaping the entire area, but controls only a portion of the property and that the gate shown on the plan is for gardens. Chairman suggested that the spikes be placed on the wrought iron fence as a security measure. S. Lit, member of the Sunshine Villas Homeowners Association, requested continuance for the homeowners to meet with the developer per presentation of a package to the Commission. Chairman directed that any motion not include lighting and that the homeowners submit a lighting plan. M/S (Lawrence, Apfelbaum) approving the application except for lighting, with a lighting plan to be submitted and with a spike top wrought iron fence suggested. August 8, 1.984 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 13 ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Continued) CASE 5.0303-PD-1.52 (Continued) Discussion followed. Commissioner Apfelbaum stated that she was withdrawing her motion since the spike topped fence was only a suggestion. M/S/C (Lawrence, Apfelbaum; Koetting absent) approving the application subject to the following conditions: 1. That the desert planting area be more free formed and larger (per modified plan of 6/18/84) . 2. That the barrier fence plans adjacent to site 2 be submitted. 3. That the wrought iron fence be spike topped. 4. That a lighting plan be submitted and approved. TENTATIVE TRACT AND PARCEL MAPS (Continued) TTM 1.9396 (REF. CASES 3.616/5.0292-CUP) . Continued. Discussion ensued on the window depth of the elevations. Planning Director stated that the windows are surface mounted and have an overhand. Commissioner Kaptur suggested that the windows be recessed.. M/S/C (Kaptur, Madsen; Koetting absent; Service dissented) approving phasing for Tentative Tract Map 19396 subject to all recommendations of the Development Committee and ACC recommendations as follows: That working drawings are approved subject to revision of roof water drainage (use of scuppers . is to be avoided, except for emergencies) . Discussion followed on the esthetics of the design. Chairman stated that he felt the project is a plastic rendition of art deco. Commissioner Kaptur stated that the style is architecturally rendered and that he could not find fault with the design. CONSENT AGENDA SIGN APPLICATION (REF. CASE 3.573. Application by G. M. SIGNS for Miller's Outpost for architectural approval of sign for retail business in the Palm Springs Mall on Tahquitz-McCallum Way between Farrell Drive/Sunset Way, C-S-C Zone, Section 1.3. Zoning Enforcement Officer presented a sign on the display board. Ms. Doris Bennett, G. M. Sign Company of Burbank, requested that the sign color be allowed in red since the standard Millers colors are a red and yellow combination. (The AAC recommended rust. ) . Zoning Enforcement Officer stated that Thrift's and Von's sign were changed to rust from red. August 8, 1.984 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 14 CONSENT AGENDA (Continued) SIGN APPLICATION (REF. CASE 3.573) (Continued) The discussion continued. The Chairman stated that the rust looks red at night but does not have the glare of red. Ms. Bennett stated that illumination is different with a rust color. Discussion continued. Ms. Bennett suggested that originally perhaps the Von's, Thrifty's and Millers' signs could have been considered in red rather than rust for continuity. Commissioner Madsen questioned the Levis symbol on the Miller's sign. Ms. Bennett stated that there is a legal corporate connection between Millers and Levis. Commission Apfelbaum stated that Fun in the Sun Candies which has a red and white peppermint stick was requested to change to rust and white. Further discussion followed. Commission Kaptur questioned whether the background yellow could be cut out around the letters. Further discussion followed. Consensus was that rust should be used instead of red. M/S/C (Lawrence, Apfelbaum; Koetting absent) approving the sign subject to the following conditions: 1. That the sign cabinet meet the fascia. 2. That the red color be changed to rust. 3. That the symbol "For" be eliminated from the sign face. Discussion followed on the deletion of the Levis symbol. Consensus was that the logo should be deleted since it would be precedent setting and other proposals of the type have been denied. Ms. Bennett stated that Millers has several other products which are not advertised on the sign, but that Levis is part of the corporate name. M/S/C (Kaptur, Madsen; Lawrence dissenting, Koetting absent) for reconsideration of the motion for approval which included the logo. M/S/C (Kaptur, Madsen; Lawrence dissenting; Koetting absent) adding the following condition: That the Levis symbol be removed from the sign. CASE 3.721. (Continued) . Application by CITY OF PALM SPRINGS REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY for architectural approval of landscape concept for Indian Avenue in the downtown area, C-B-D Zone, Section 15. Discussion ensured on the downtown landscape concept. Redevelopment Director stated that the plan is to make Indian Avenue as important a street as Palm Canyon Drive. The plan is being is being designed in conjunction with landscape architect Michael Buccino, that the plan only August 8, 1984 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 15 CONSENT AGENDA (Continued) CASE 3.721 (Continued) extend, between Arenas and Andreas because of the cost and the scope of the larger plan. He stated that the agency will work with businesses for more funds for the project, that Andreas as a pedestrian way requires study because of traffic problem. He described plans for the Old Plaza, using stamped concrete, a band stand for special events. He stated that the A & W Rootbeer stand will remain and that the A & W Rootbeer stand ties in with the architecture of the Plaza. Commissioner Kaptur suggested that the special treatment extend down Tahquitz-McCallum to Palm Canyon for continuity. Redevelopment Director stated that the natural spa may be opened as an important element of the plan as a celebration of the hot water, and that the process of going toward Palm Canyon to Tahquitz was started but has not gone further because of the Redevelopment Agencies involvement with the Liebling Trust for improvement of the corner. He stated that the redevelopment of the southwest corner of Tahquitz and Palm Canyon will be the second phase. The discussion ensured on the crosswalks. Chairman stated that the portion of the plan that includes the design of the crosswalks was postponed and that originally that the crosswalks were to be textured, but there is a problems with Cal Trans and that textured concrete is difficult to walk on and difficult to restore when streets are being restored. Redevelopment Director stated that Cal Trans has no voice in the cross walk design or material . Chairman stated that there is a groutless tile that survives heavily truck traffic and abuse. Commission Kaptur suggested coordination between the utilities companies an& the City in removing portions of the street. Redevelopment Director stated that there no coordination and that there will not be lights on the Palm Trees since there are sodium vapor lights on Indian Avenue and requested that the concept be recommended for approval to the City Council so that negotiations with property owners can begin. Planning Director stated that there was another issue - that of a name change for Indian Avenue to Indian Canyon or Indian Canyon Drive for more luster and that businesses do not identify with the Indian Avenue name. Commissioner Kaptur also sug9ested that "Tahquitz" be deleted from Tahquitz-McCallum Way. Redevelopment Director stated that the direction the Commission is giving is review of alternate materials which will not be destroyed when streets are torn up. Planning Director stated that the material could be put into panels and removed more easily. M. Buccino, the landscape architect, described the configuration and design of the plan. He stated that the colors are beige and burnt orange with red tile inserts at entryways for continuity, and for a clearer view of the design. Commissioner Kaptur suggested a tan and brown theme for integration with all types of architecture on Indian Avenue. Chairman thought that brown would not be appropriate. Mr. Buccino stated that there are areas to be reviewed for character and that furnishings, lighting fixtures and materials such as carved Mexican August 8, 1984 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 16 CONSENT AGENDA (Continued) CASE 3.721 (Continued) stone would add interest. Redevelopment Director stated that the terracotta color, integrating the Old Plaza tile is appropriate. Mr. Buccino stated that the Crepe Myrtle tree proposed on the plan is a small delicate tree with strong wood and high flowering characteristics and that the tree is a good accent tree and very unobtrusive. Redevelopment Director stated that placement of trees will be reviewed so that business signs will not be hidden. He stated also that the plan includes moving the east curb of Indian Avenue out 8 feet so that there is a broader sidewalk on the east side of Indian, that parking will be removed on the east side of Indian, which will affect the traffic, and that removal of the parking will be discussed with the Traffic Engineer and suggestions made by the Commission on moving the curb in and out will be explored. Discussion followed on a name change for Indian Avenue. Redevelopment Director stated that he favored Indian Canyon Drive. Discussion followed on methods of changing the name. Planning Director stated that a name change can be proposed to the Council and a Public Hearing held or by a petition from the property owners of the street. Chairman stated that he felt a name change would inconvenience the businesses. Redevelopment Director stated that the idea of changing Indian Avenue to another name has to begin somewhere and that the Planning Commission can propose it to the Council. M/S/C (Curtis, Apfelbaum; Koetting absent) approving the landscape concept for Indian Avenue, including moving the east curb 8 feet with further review of details by the Commission. Discussion continued. Commissioner Kaptur stated that the street designation should be earthy, such as Indian Canyon Trail . Commissioner Apfelbaum requested that the Indians become involved in the renaming of the street, and that the renaming requires more consideration and input. Chairman stated that any change will cloud the issue of the landscape concept. Planning Director stated that the Tribal Council has passed a resolution that it was understood that the street would be called "Tahquitz", through section 1.4, when the right-of-way was dedicated and that the Tribal Council did not concur with the Tahquitz-McCallum designation. He stated that the City Council is requested to consider the tribes viewpoint. M/S/C (Kaptur, Madsen; Koetting absent; Service dissented) recommending to the City Council that it consider modifying the name of Indian Avenue to Indian Canyon Trail. M/S/C (Lawrence, Kaptur; Koetting absent; Madsen, Curtis dissented) recommending to the Council that Tahquitz-McCallum Way be changed to Tahquitz Canyon Way. (Commissions Madsen and Curtis dissented because they felt that the McCallum name should be retained.) August 8, 1984 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 17 CONSENT AGENDA (Continued) CASE 3 717 (Continued) - REF. TTM 14899. Application by ASL CONSULTING ENGINEERS for Friedman Ventures for architectural approval of revised architectural plans for an industrial park on Gene Autry Trail between Sunny Dunes/Mesquite Avenue, M-1. Zone (I.L. ), Section 20. M/S/C (Curtis, Lawrence; Koetting absent) for a restudy noting the following: I. That increased steps be added to the fascia and that indentation in the fascia be achieved either visually and/or physically, and III that the building detailing be refined. 2. That landscaping adjoining the buildings is approved as submitted. I 3.372 (Minor) . Application by C. MILLS for M. Geyer for architectural approval of revised exterior elevations for building at 266 N. Palm Canyon Drive between Amado Road/Andreas Road, C-B-D Zone, Section 15. M/S/C (Kaptur, Lawrence; Koetting absent) approving application subject to the following: That the fascia be replastered (with colors to be . reviewed by the AAC). COMMISSION REPORTS, REQUESTS AND DISCUSSION Water Slide Park and the Sphere of Influence. M/S/C (Madsen, Lawrence; Koetting absent) directing staff prepare a letter recommending that an EIR be prepared. Planner II stated that the developer is appealing a staff recommendation of an EIR. Chairman stated that the issue is that a large development is proposed into a non-service area, and he stated also that the park could possibly be creating a demand for off-vehicle use. - CIP. Planning Director stated that an review of the Capital Improvement Program may be added to the study session of August 1.5 if there is time. Review of signs for National Firms. Planning Director stated that the situation is reviewed every 4 or 5 years for recommitment to the sign policy. Commissioner Lawrence requested more background material. Sphere Area Plan. Planning Director stated that a joint study session will be scheduled with the Council. Windmills in the pass area. Chairman suggested that the City receive benefits from wind energy such as a Helioscience Institute. Commissioner Curtis stated that the issue is the esthetics of the corridor. Commissioner Lawrence stated that some people like the windmills. Chairman noted that windmills may inhibit residential building in the desert. Commission Madsen stated that the manufacturing of windmills in a clean, light industry and might be encouraged. > Commission Kaptur stated that a master plan should be developed for August 8, 1984 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 18 CONSENT AGENDA (Continued) COMMISSION REPORTS, REQUESTS AND DISCUSSION (Continued) locations of the windmills, and that the desert should be preserved in a natural state. Chairman stated that the City may be missing an opportunity of using the wind to its advantage and that no one has claimed title to the wind industry. Commission Lawrence noted that the money is not in operation but in the syndication of the machinery. Commissioner Madsen stated that the theory of tax advantage is advancing money for research and development. Commissioner Apfelbaum stated that there are twelve regional offices for wind energy farms in the bank of Palm Springs Center. Commissioner Kaptur noted that the Southern California Edison Company buys power from alternate energy sources. Commissioner Lawrence said they are required to do so. Commissioner Madsen stated that there is an advantage in not having capital outlay. ADJOURNMENT There being no further business to discuss. Chairman adjourned the meeting at 6:15 p.m. VY PLANNING DIR 0 MDR/ml WP/PC 4 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES Council Chamber, City Hall • August 22, 1984 1:30 p.m. ROLL CALL F-Y 1984 - 1985 Present Present Excused Absences Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to date Richard Service, Chairman X 3 0 Hugh Curtis X 2 1 Hugh Kaptur - 2 1 Peter Koetting X 2 1 Don Lawrence X 2 1 Paul Madsen - 2 1 Sharon Apfelbaum X 1 1 Staff Present Douglas R. Evans, Planner III Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney George Parmenter, Traffic Engineer Robert Green, Planner III Margo Williams, Planner II Richard Patenaude, Planner II Diana Ericksen, Community Development Coordinator Dave Forcucci , Zoning Enforcement Officer • William Hudak, Zoning Enforcement Officer Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary Architectural Advisory Committee Present - August 20, 1984 James Cioffi, Chairman Earl Neel Chris Mills William Johnson Hugh Curtis Sharon Apfelbaum Absent: Michael Buccino Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m. M/S/C (Lawrence, Apfelbaum; Kaptur, Madsen absent) approved minutes of the July 25 as submitted and August 8, 1984 meeting with the following corrections: Aug. 8, 1984, page 13, Condition #2, Case 5.0303-PD-152: Change Site 2 to Site 1. • Page 3, paragraph 3, Case 5.0323-PD-158, delete "realtor". Page 14, paragraph 9 (last motion) Sign Application - Millers Outpost: Add "Curtis" to dissenting vote.