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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
Council Chamber, City Hall
March 14, 1984
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1983 - 1984
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to date
Richard Service, Chairman X 14 2
Hugh Curtis - 14 2
Hugh Kaptur X 13 3
Peter Koetting X 14 2
Don Lawrence X 16 0
Paul Madsen X 15 1
Sharon Apfelbaum X 15 1
Staff Present
Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director
Sigfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney
George Parmenter, Traffic Engineer
John Terell, Redevelopment Planner
Douglas R. Evans, Planner III
Robert Green, Planner II
Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee Present - March 12, 1984
James Cioffi , Chairman
Earl Neel
Chris Mills
Hugh Curtis
William Johnson
Sharon Apfelbaum
Michael Buccino
William Johnson
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
M/S/C (Apfelbaum/Madsen; Curtis absent) approving minutes of the February 8,
1984 meeting as submitted and the February 22 meeting with the following
correction: Page 4, Paragraph 9, TTM 19870/CASE 3.642. Add to the motion:
"Service dissented".
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
,. CASE 5.0300-PD-156. Application by TEXAS WESTERN DEVELOPMENT, INC. for a
Planned Development District in lieu of a change of zone to R-G-A (8) to
allow construction of a 180-unit condotel on 20 acres on Avenida Cabal-
leros between San Raphael/Frances Drive, 0-5 Zone (I.L.), Section 2.
(Environmental assessment. )
Recommendation: That the Planning Commission deny the application for a
Planned Development District in lieu of a change of zone.
Planner II presented the project and stated that detailed plans have not
been submitted because staff recommends denial .
Planning Director stated that the Tribal Council also recommends denial
of the application.
Discussion followed on the design of the original project and that of
the proposed project. Planning Director stated that it was designed as
a reverse of the original project and that staff had discussed a four-
unit per acre density and integration of the two sites as a conference
center/destination resort but the applicant did not indicate interest in
the proposal . He stated that the project had not been successful as
condominiums for sale or on a resort time share basis, and that the
applicants have been renting the units on a short-term basis.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
J. Reimer, 1400 Express Way Tower, Dallas, Texas, the applicant, stated
that the sale of the units had not been successful possibly because of
being bordered by affordable housing units and that a marketing plan had
been developed to sell the units as undivided 1/11th interest (resort
share); that since January, 1983 the units have been rented successfully
on a short-term basis; and that transient occupancy taxes to the City
are projected to be $140,000 in 1984. He stated that the increased den-
sity and amenities proposed would make the project successful and bring
financial benefits to the City which would outweigh the density bonuses
proposed. He stated that the same peripheral landscaping and mainte-
nance as on the original project would abate blowsand.
In reply to a question from Commissioner Lawrence, Mr. Reimer stated
that the units have not been on the market for sale since January of
1983.
There being no further appearances, the hearing was closed.
Planning Director stated that staff had not requested site plans and
other materials because density and land use issues needed clarification
and that the use is resort with amenities.
Chairman stated that financial considerations should be resolved by the
City Council (not the Planning Commission) since the Commission only
� , considers land use.
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CASE 5.0300-PD 156. (Cont'd.)
Commissioner Kaptur stated that if the application had been a Planned
Development District with a mix of high- and low-density originally, the
requested density transfer would be understandable, but that the current
configuration and proposal indicate poor planning.
In response to Commission question, Planning Director stated that the
sewer density is based on General Plan densities, and that there is
little elasticity in the design of sewer mains in the area.
Commissioner Koetting suggested that the applicant meet with staff to
develop a compromise in density.
Commissioner Lawrence agreed stating that he objected to the proposed
density.
Chairman stated that he could not support the density transfer since
discretionary powers should not be used for a "band-aid" approach.
Discussion followed on action to be taken. Commissioner Koetting sug-
gested a restudy.
In response to Commission question, Mr. Reimer stated that it would be
worthwhile to discuss actual densities, amenities and impacts on the
sewer system with staff.
M/S/C (Kaptur/Madsen; Curtis absent) for a restudy of the project based
on the following findings:
1. That the project is not consistent with housing goals of the
General Plan but is consistent with City Council goals of encour-
aging quality resort facilities.
2. That the proposal is not consistent with the intent of the 0-5
section of the Zoning Ordinance.
3. That the proposed density could not be adequately serviced by the
existing sewer main system.
4. That the proposal could set an undesirable precedent for unplanned
increased residential density throughout the 0-5 Zones.
5. That the proposal represents piecemeal planning and development.
6. That the proposal reduces the land average on the site for land-
scape blowsand protection of the units.
TRIBAL COUNCIL COMMENTS
"It was noted that area development ranges in density from 3.5 to 8
units/acre. It was also noted that the higher densities have been per-
mitted for those projects providing low and moderate cost housing
through a controlled sales program.
After consideration of the recommendations of the Indian Planning Com-
mission, the Tribal Council took the following actions:
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CASE 5.0300-PD 156. Cont'd.
1. Concurred with City Planning Staff's findings in that:
a. The proposed overall density of 6.7 units/acre does not con-
form with the General Plan Land Use designation of 4 units/
acre.
b. The project does not propose to provide low and moderate
cost housing through a controlled sales program, therefore
it would not qualify for the bonus density granted other
such projects in the area.
2. Recommended that the request for a Planned Development District in
lieu of a change of zone to R-G-A (8) be denied in that the pro-
posed project does not conform with the density provisions (Sec-
tion 9407.00-B.1) of the Planned Development District.
3. Noted that the potential environmental impacts referenced in Plan-
ning Staff Report dated March 14, 1984 could possibly be mitigated
and should be fully addressed in an Environmental Assessment/
Initial Study, if the project proceeds."
CASE 6.343-VARIANCE. Application by J. KOLMEL for a variance in rear yard
setback to allow addition to a residence at 1523 Rojo Circle, R-1-C
Zone, Section 26.
(This action is categorically exempt from environmental assessment per
CEQA.)
Recommendation: That the Planning Commission approve the application
for a variance to allow an addition to a residence at 1523 Rojo Circle.
Planning Director stated that most variances are not granted, but that
there are grounds for the proposed variance application.
Commissioner Koetting requested that architectural plans be submitted
since the proposed addition would be visible from LaVerne Way.
Planning Director stated that submission of plans could be a condition
of approval and that a letter had been received from a neighbor request-
ing that oleanders be planted and maintained to screen the wall from the
LaVerne side.
Discussion followed on construction standards for the residence. Plan-
ning Director stated that it was built in 1964 to R-1-A standards.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
W. Johnson of Palm Desert, the architect, stated that grounds for a
variance exist and that the applicant was willing to landscape the
barren portion on the outside of the wall but also desired to plant
landscaping on the inside.
Discussion followed on the proposed landscaping.
There being no further appearances, the hearing was closed.
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CASE 6.343-VARIANCE. (Cont'd. )
M/S/C (Koetting/Madsen; Curtis absent) approving the variance based on
the following findings and subject to the following conditions:
FINDINGS:
1. That the following circumstances are present making the normal
application of the zoning ordinance a hardship on the subject
property:
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a. Irregular shape, including fronting on a cul-de-sac lot.
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b. Substandard size (9,900 square feet as opposed to 10,000
square feet required in the R-1-C Zone) .
C. Substandard dimension in depth (80 foot average as opposed
to 130 feet as now required in the R-1-C Zone when backing
on a secondary thoroughfare. )
2. The granting of this variance will not constitute the granting of
a special privilege since many other properties in the vicinity
and neighborhood already are built with a similar rear yard condi-
tion, and other properties under similar conditions could be
afforded similar consideration.
3. That the granting of this variance will not materially affect the
public health, safety, and welfare, or injurious to property and
improvements in the neighborhood of the subject property.
4. That the granting of this variance will not affect the General
Plan.
CONDITIONS:
1. That the architectural plans of the addition be submitted for
approval by the AAC and Planning Commission.
2. That detailed landscape and irrigation plans be submitted.
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
DETERMINATION - 10.338. Request by RIMROCK SHOPPING CENTER for Planning Com-
mission determination that a gymnasium is an allowable use in the C-D-N
Zone.
M/S/C (Kaptur/Madsen; Curtis absent) determining that a gymnasium is an
allowable use in the C-D-N Zone.
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CONSENT AGENDA
M/S/C (Kaptur/Lawrence; Curtis absent) taking the following actions for
items on the consent agenda.
CASE 3.373 (Cont'd. ). Application by R. YOUNG for S. Havens for architec-
tural approval of final landscape, irrigation, and exterior lighting
plans for 11-unit condominium complex on Vista Chino between Chapparral/
Cottonwood, R-2 Zone, Section 17.
Approved subject to the following conditions:
Landscape
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1. That Pinus Mondale be substituted for Pinus Canariensis.
2. That the number of Pinus Mondale be increased to two on the south
elevation.
3. That two Ficus Retusa be added to screen the northern elevation of
the carports.
Carports:
That the carport design be retained as originally proposed.
CASE 3.603. Application by MICHAEL BUCCINO & ASSOCIATES for architectural
approval of landscape plans for condominium complex on Avenida Granada/
South Palm Canyon Drive, R-2 Zone, Section 35.
Approved subject to the following condition: That the interior of the
street trees be increased in size (25% of the total number of trees on
this site to be increased in size with specific emphasis on Jacarandas) .
CASE 3.649 (HOA). Application by ENGINEERING PARKING SYSTEMS for architec-
tural approval of security gates for condominium complex at 1050 E.
Ramon Road, R-4 Zone (I.L. ) , Section 14.
Approved subject to the following condition: That details of ground
cover and vines on the fences be submitted for staff approval .
CASE 3.662 (Minor) . Application by D. R. SCOTT for architectural approval of
landscape plans, decking and spa at 2295 Bisnaga Avenue, R-1-B Zone,
Section 25.
Approved as submitted.
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MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Continued)
�.� DISCUSSION - CASE 5.0309 (MISC. ). Planning Commission discussion of proposed
RV park R. Richey at Indian Avenue and I-10 in the sphere of
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influence.
Planner III stated that no site improvement plans have been submitted,
and that staff reviews sphere projects for compliance with City
standards. He stated that in some areas the proposal does not meet City
requirements but t q that the density complies with City standards.
Discussion followed on the configuration of the site.
Planner III stated that the major EIR issues are noise impact from Hwy
I-10 and blowsand abatement. He stated that staff is recommending City
development standards for this site, that the project would include
three phases, that a trash collection/enclosure system has not been
developed, and that the project is on septic tanks.
R. Richey, 2013 N. Indian Avenue, the applicant, stated that the project
would be on septic tanks and developed to County standards. He stated
that he did not know whether the project would be annexed to the City
and described the recreational areas to be developed with the phases.
Discussion followed on the type of Commission action and Commission
concerns. Planning Director stated that direction could be given to the
County that the proposal should conform to City standards and other
Commission concerns if desired.
Chairman stated that the percolation ponds in the vicinity would be an
attractive recreation use but would have policing problems.
Commissioner Koetting stated that the Commission could make recommenda-
tions for standards, but that the proposal is not within the City
limits. He suggested that Commission concerns be noted (such as set-
backs and open space) .
Commissioner Kaptur stated that the County should review the project's
septic tank location in relation to their proximity to the percolation
ponds.
M/S/C (Koetting/Kaptur; Curtis absent) recommending to the County that
the project conform as much as possible to City requirements, i .e. , set-
backs, sewage system, and open space.
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Continued)
SIGN APPLICATION. Application by IMPERIAL SIGNS for the Spa Hotel for archi-
tectural approval of identification sign on Calle Encilia/Tahquitz-
McCallum Way, C-1-AA/R-4-VP Zone (I.L. ) , Section 14.
Planning Director indicated that the AAC recommended restudy but that
the applicants are present and wished to discuss the sign with the
Commission.
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SIGN APPLICATION. (Cont'd. )
Discussion followed at the display board with the sign applicant, L.
Hart, who stated that the sign is elegant, and reflects the Indian heri-
tage and the hotel 's historic significance.
Commissioner Kaptur stated that he felt it should be simpler and noted
AAC recommendations.
Mr. Hart stated that the AAC had not realized that the building had a
stucco finish and that the sign materials reflect the building
materials.
M/S (Apfelbaum/Service; Curtis absent) approving the sign as submitted
(later amended to include the hotel 's agreement to complete the sign
program within a year and compliance with the sign ordinance) .
The vote was as follows:
AYES: Apfelbaum, Service, Lawrence
NOES: Kaptur, Koetting, Madsen
ABSENT: Curtis
The motion failed.
Commissioner Kaptur suggested that a final rendering be submitted for
AAC approval . Further discussion followed on the sign materials and the
sign base. Mr. Hart stated that one sign is being proposed but that all
signs reflect the same theme and will be constructed as budgeting per-
mits (approximately 2 years) . Commissioner Apfelbaum stated that her
motion was based on completion of the sign program within a year.
Commissioner Lawrence stated that he could support a year's length of
time for economic reasons.
M/S (Kaptur, Madsen) for a restudy.
The vote was as follows:
AYES: Kaptur, Madsen and Koetting
NOES: Apfelbaum, Lawrence and Service
ABSENT: Curtis
The motion failed.
Discussion followed on the aesthetics of the sign including the
materials and colors. Mr. Hart stated that individual perferences are
affecting the Planning Commission's decision and that the sign has been
thoroughly reviewed. He stated that he felt that the sign was an ele-
gant, historic one.
M/S (Kaptur/Koetting; Curtis absent) for a restudy for simplification of
the sign (suggesting a sign in a landscape base) and review of colors
and materials.
The vote was as follows:
AYES: Apfelbaum, Lawrence and Service
NOES: Kaptur, Koetting, Madsen
ABSENT: Curtis
The motion failed.
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SIGN APPLICATION. (Cont'd. )
Commissioner Apfelbaum stated that the AAC discussed the sign thoroughly
and there was a dichotomy of opinions which were not reflected in the
vote. Commissioner Lawrence stated that he liked the sign.
M/S/C (Madsen/Kaptur; Curtis absent; Lawrence dissented) to continue the
sign application review to the March 28 meeting for the entire Commis-
sion to be present.
Planning Director stated that the applicant could not appeal the con-
tinuance because no action (only continuance of the application) was taken
by the Commission.
SIGN APPLICATION. Application by H. KASSINGER for architectural approval of
sign program, sign application for E. Welles, and showcases for the Bank
of Palm Springs Center/Courtyard on Tahquitz-McCallum Way between Calle
E1 Segundo/Calle Alvarado, C-1-AA/R-4-VP Zone, Section 14 (Ref. Case
3.309) .
NOTE: Assistant City Attorney was contacted and ruled that Commis-
sioners Kaptur and Madsen who have offices across the street from the
Bank of Palm Springs Center could participate in discussion on the
application but that Commissioner Lawrence who rents office space in the
Bank of Palm Springs Center could not. Commissioner Madsen stated that
he would not participate.
Planning Director stated that there were two submittals: A sign program
for the stores on Tahquitz-McCallum; and two display cases on Tahquitz-
McCallum. He described the sign program and colors and materials and
stated that the signs are unlit. He stated that the original staff
suggestion was to build a wall and make a courtyard look for the pro-
posed bronze metal display cases; and that the AAC recommended approval
but that two of the members felt that the purple awnings and orange the
were not visually compatible. He stated that the Commission had man-
dated a retail look to the Center with the recent approval of the
canopies.
Discussion followed regarding the sign letters and the showcases.
Chairman stated that the cases should be large enough to accommodate
large scale products and that metal store windows were not the answer.
Further discussion followed. Commissioner Kaptur stated that he felt
that the applicant was defeating his purpose with the type of display
cases proposed.
M/S (Koetting/Apfelbaum; Curtis absent; Lawrence and Madsen abstained)
approving the sign program with the applicant to restudy the tile color
with individual signs to be reviewed and approved by staff.
Discussion followed. Commissioner Kaptur stated that the orange color
should be removed.
D. Christian, the architect, noted that the applicant wants the orange
tile. Further discussion followed.
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SIGN APPLICATION. (Cont'd. )
Commissioner Koetting withdrew his motion with the consent of the
seconder.
Commissioner Kaptur stated that with the awnings being burgundy there
was a new color scheme for the Center.
M/S/C (Kaptur/Koetting; Lawrence and Madsen abstained; Curtis absent;
Service dissented) approving the sign program and colors and restudying
the orange the color to make it complementary with the new color scheme
and with individual signs to be reviewed and approved by staff.
M/S/C (Kaptur/Apfelbaum; Curtis absent; Lawrence and Madsen abstained)
denying the display cases.
Commissioner Koetting noted that the display cases should be in the
courtyard (not on the street).
CASE 5.0303-PD-152. Application by R. GREGORY & E. JOHNSON for architectural
approval of golf course landscape and irrigation plans for golf
course/condominium project at Ramon Road/Farrell Drive, R-1-C & W-R-1-C
Zones, Section 24.
Planner III stated that the maintenance building has been moved to Sunny
Dunes off Sunrise, that the applicant has submitted specific plans on
the tees, greens and fairways. He stated that the bikeway has been
changed per Planning Commission conditions; that staff is recommending
that detailed landscape plans be submitted of representative sections of
several elements of the plan; and that the applicant has requested a
Planning Commission field trip to the site.
C. Mills, 278-C N. Palm Canyon, the architect, requested that the rough
grading on the front nine be allowed to continue and stated that the
natural area will be left untouched. He requested a Commission determi-
nation on a tennis court location, and stated that the courts will be
sunken and unlighted. He requested that the bikepath be on one side of
Farrell only with a meandering sidewalk on the other side; and that 50
to 60 mature olive trees be allowed to be planted (which could be moved
later if necessary) .
Chairman stated that there are several olive trees on the DeBartolo
project that could be placed on the golf course.
Mr. Mills stated that the tennis courts are approximately 200 feet from
the Sunshine Villas complex and could be bermed, if necessary. He
stated that the equestrian path on the edge of the channel goes into the
wash and under the Sunrise Bridge, and that no decision has been made on
fencing although the equestrian trail would not be fenced.
R. Leonard, resident of Sunshine Villas, stated that the homeowners
appreciated the Commission's concern over the maintenance building loca-
tion. He stated that the homeowners were concerned that driving and
parking of cars of the tennis players would become a problem and ques-
tioned the reasoning for having the tennis courts next to Sunshine
Villas. He stated that the residents want their land to be the golf
course.
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CASE 5.0303-PD-152. (Cont'd. )
Commissioner Lawrence stated that the developer had moved the clubhouse
per the homeowners request but that the tennis courts do not present a
problem.
Mr. Leonard stated that the original residents knew where the Sunshine
Villas tennis courts were when they bought in Sunshine Villas. Discus-
sion continued. Chairman stated that there was not to be a debate.
R. Fixa, 567 Sunshine Circle, stated that he appreciated the fact that
the maintenance building was moved but objected to the placement of the
tennis courts since his home is adjacent to them. He stated that the
residents of Sunshine Villas knew where the courts were and knew that
there were no future plans for tennis courts, that expensive legal fees
have been paid, and that the residents requested that the land be kept
free as a green belt. He stated that the tennis court should be on land
adjoining the new condos, and that if the courts were sunken they would
flood. He stated also that the residents do not want to have a roadway
behind Cerritos and requested that the condo units near Sunshine Villas
be all one-story.
E. Johnson, 344 Cathedral Canyon Country Club, landscaper for the
project, stated that there was an urgency to planting of the landscape
because of the approaching summer season. Chairman stated that a
definite landscape plan is required, and that the applicant has sub-
mitted only progress plans.
Planning Director stated that the landscape plan was to be a final but
that the AAC felt that more details should be submitted; and that
staff's recommendation would be for approval with specific areas to be
submitted for review. He stated that the applicant wants to develop a
full scale model of the site.
Chairman stated that he did not want to approve "as built" plans.
Commissioner Kaptur stated that the applicant was at the Commission' s
mercy since revisions would have to be made if the Commission did not
approve what the developer has built.
Chairman commented that the process was a complete perversion of the
normal procedure, and that planning should be put on paper for proper
review so that the Commission does not have to view the project in the
field.
Discussion continued on the applicant's request and lack of plans. Mr.
Mills stated that complete landscape plans will be submitted for the 3-
28 meeting. Further discussion followed.
M/S/C (Lawrence/Koetting; Curtis absent; Madsen dissented) taking the
following actions:
1. The request for a bikepath on the east side of Farrell with a
meandering sidewalk on the west side is approved.
2. New location of maintenance building on Sunny Dunes is approved.
3. The rough grading of the front nine holes can continue.
4. That focused details of the landscaping of greens, tees, lakes,
public right of ways, and bikeways be submitted and approved:
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CASE 5.0303-PD-152. (Cont'd. )
5. Location of the tennis courts per plans or mounding next to
Sunshine Villas is approved -( courts to be sunken and unlighted) ,
,(:Tennis court landscape plans are to be submitted with`detairled land-
cape plans for-,-review at the 3-2.3-84 Planning Commission meeting. )
6. Planting of the olive trees is approved subject to relocation if
necessary.
7. Review of the bikepath by staff is required.
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8• Submission of detailed landscape and other final plans for the 3-
28 meeting is required.
! 9. That smaller palms be used with larger palms (clusters vs. individual palms) .
Commissioner Apfelbaum stated that the bikepath is close to the tennis
court area and has not been discussed. Mr. Mills described the configu-
ration of the tennis courts and bikepath and landscaping along the
streets.
Commissioner Koetting stated that the Commission has been generous in
its review of the project.
Commissioner Kaptur stated that he had hoped that the homeowners would
resolve their difficulties regarding the tennis courts and that the
developer has been reasonable in helping to resolve problems. He stated
that review of the landscaping and mounding is as far as the Commission
can go.
Mr. Fixa stated that efforts have been made to resolve differences with
the developer, that there are legal difficulties and that the residents
want the 1 and left open.
CASE 3.602. Application by R. GREGORY for the City of Palm Springs for archi-
tectural approval of final landscape plans for police station expansion,
3300 E. Tahquitz-McCallum Way, CC Zone, Section 13.
M/S/C (Kaptur/Koetting; Curtis absent) approving the application subject
to the following condition: Submission of landscape screening of the
trash enclosure for staff approval .
MISCELLANEOUS ACTIONS
M/S/C (Madsen/Kaptur; Curtis absent) taking the following actions:
TTM 17260 & CASE 3.645 (Cont'd. ) . Application by HELTZER ENTERPRISES for
architectural and tentative tract map approval for 120-unit condominium
project on Golf Club Drive between Waverly Drive/Cree Road, R-3 Zone
(I.L. ), Section 29.
(Commission response to written comments on draft Negative Declaration
and final approval . )
,Continued to 3-28-84 meeting.
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TTM 17260 & CASE 3.645. (Cont'd. )
TRIBAL COUNCIL COMMENTS
"At its meeting of February 21, 1984, the Tribal Council approved the
preparation of a draft Negative Declaration and approved TTM 17260.
After consideration of the recommendations of the Indian Planning Com-
mission, the Tribal Council took the following actions:
1. Approved the filing of a Negative Declaration and reiterated its
action of February 21 to approve TTM 17260.
2. In reviewing the Planning Commission meeting minutes of February
22, 1984, it was noted that this case was continued pending an
overall restudy of the site plan, building height, configuration
of elevations, etc. It was also noted that the proposed project
meets all development of the R-3 Zone with the possible exception
of distance between buildings in the case of courtyards, and that
the proposed density is approximately 76% of the maximum allowable
under the R-3 Zone.
In view of the above notations, the Tribal Council expressed a
concern that some of the design issues may be arbitrary in nature,
and are resulting in undue delays in the processing of this issue.
DISCUSSION -CASE 3.666 (Minor) . Commission review of design for historic
marker for the Historic Site Preservation Board (HSPB) .
Continued to 3-28 for a more thorough staff presentation.
CASE 3.665. Application by L. JOHNSON for revised plans for trellis for
single-family hillside residence at 2332 Cantina Way, R-1-A Zone,
Section 27. (Reference Case 6.339)
Continued to 3-28 at the applicant's request.
CASE 7.556-AMM. Application by J. WADDINGTON for T. Eadie for architectural
approval of archway and columns for residence at 620 Rose Avenue, R-1-B
Zone, Section 10.
Restudy. (Noting that the mass of the arch element should be
increased. )
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ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Continued)
CASE 3.608. Application by M. BUCCINO for R. Pond for architectural approval
of landscape plans for single-family residence on Dunham Road between
Hillview Cove/Stonehedge, R-1-B Zone, Section 1.
M/S/C (Kaptur/Madsen; Lawrence abstained; Curtis absent) approving the
application as submitted including revisions to the building elevations.
COMMISSION REPORTS, REQUESTS AND DISCUSSION
Discussion on Study Session with CVB regarding Convention Center.
Planning Director requested that a subcommittee be appointed to work
with staff on the convention center. Chairman appointed Commissioners
Kaptur, Apfelbaum and the Chairman to serve on the ad hoc Committee with
staff for review of the center.
Commission/Holiday Date Conflict. Chairman stated that several holidays
fall on Planning Commission meeting dates in 1984, and that he would
work with staff to change the dates or cancel the meetings.
Revised Sign Ordinance. Commission directed that the sign ordinance and
the environmental assessment be reviewed atthe 3-28 meeting and then
continued to a night meeting on April 11.
Used car lot on East Palm Canyon and Sunrise adjacent to Crocker Bank.
Staff to investigate this illegal use.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Chairman adjourned the
meeting at 6:52 p.m.
PEA ING UIRECTOR
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ATT:
A. Minutes of Case 11.15 (Bogie Road street name change) .
B. Minutes of Case 5.0310-MISC. (percolation ponds in the sphere of
influence).
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CASE 11.17 (Continued)
M/S/C .(Lawrence/Ko-etting; Curtis absent) recommends to the Council that
it approve 'a street name change from Bogie Road to Gene Autry Trail
(from East Palm Canyon Drive to East Vista Chino) .
TRIBAL COUNCIL COMMENTS
This proposed street name change was considered by the Tribal Council at
its meeting of February 7, 1984. It was noted that the major portion of
Bogie Road southerly of Ramon Road is adjacent to or traverses Indian-
trust lands.
After consideration of the recommendations of the Indian Planning Com-
mission, the Tribal Council took the fo-llowing actions:
1. Reiterated its previous action to endorse this proposal to change
the name of Bogie Road to Gene Autry Trail as being timely and
appropriate.
2. 4For purposes of better identity for the traveling public, it was
suggested that this name change should include that section of .
Palm Drive in unincorporated County territory and extending
southerly on I-10.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
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v CASE 11.17. Application by W. HIRD for -a name change from Bogie Road to Gene
Autry Trail from East Palm . Canyon Drive to East Vista Chino, Sections
30, 19, 20, 17, 18, and 7. (Some °I.L. )
Recommendation: That the Planning Commission recommend to the City
Council that. it approve a street name change for Bogie Road (from East
Palm Canyon Drive) to East Vista Chino to Gene Autry Trail .
Planning Director stated that Resolution of Intention for Street Name
Change notices were posted along Bogie Road and that some contact had
been received from the public including an objection that it would be
costly to change stationary and restencil the equipment for one of the
firms. He stated that a letter had been received from Mrs. Hird
requesting approval and that the request would be reviewed by the City
Council on March -21. He Mated also that dedication plans have already
begun.
In response to Commission question Planning Director stated that staff
would4consider two signs (Bogie Road and Gene Autry Trail) during a time
of transition.
Chairman d'eclared ,the hearing open. The following persons spoke in sup-
port of the street name change:
Mrs. J. Laduke, 2294 Star Road.
J. Cooper, 2560 Golf Club Drive.
�-' J. Kenna, President, Chamber of Commerce.
B. DeGrande, -2912 Playmor.
H. Haddock, former City Leisure Services Superintendent.
D. Williams, 4� 3 N. Palm, Canyon Drive.
H. Williamson, 690 Cielo Drive
T. Keiley, 1800 S. Sunrise Way
The above persons stated that they felt that Mr. Autry was an honored
member. of the community who has made significant contributions to the
City.
The follow.ing persons spoke in opposition:
A. Albert,, North Bogie Road,
R. Butin, Airport Park Businessman.
Reasons stated in opposition were as follows:
Costs of changing stationery and merchandise, and costs of
relabe ling/restenciling equipment; name change not suited to a
commercial street; many businesses on Bogie Road will be affected; and
disruption of record keeping with government agencies. Dr. Butin stated
- that businessmen should be reimbursed for costs incurred by the name .
change.
Commissioner Koetting suggested that a fundraiser be initiated' to help
reimburse expenses incurred by residents on Bogie Road.
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Commissioner Madsen stated that storing the water benefits northern and
... southern California more than the desert. Mr. Levy stated that it was
not northern and southern California water but will be water that can be
pumped to the Valley and assures (the Valley)_ that- there is water in the
reservoir since there is no pipeline from northern California to the
Valley. He stated that although there is a water agreement with the
State, there is a possibility that water would be curtailed to the
Valley in the event of a drought, since the agreement is not completely
binding.
In response to Commission questions, Mr. Levy stated that eventually
facilities would need to be built, and that there is an advantage in the
fact that the MWD has agreed to build the facilities. He stated that in
the drought of '76 to '77 there was no northern California water pumped
across the Tehachapi Mountains. He noted that the MWD will pay for the
dikes ($3 to 3.5 million), that it is an economic advantage to deliver
water on power contracts in a period of surplus, and that water would be
j stored for the future and benefit of the Valley. He described briefly
the history of the CVWD and stated that a permit was filed on the ulti-
mate "build-out" to keep the land from being sold by the BLM and that
what is proposed to be built at the present time is the medium-term
facility. Commissioner Koetting stated that Palm Springs would be
adversely effected by the total project and will be a guinea pig in a
disaster, such as an earthquake. He questioned reasons for not prepar-
ing an EIR for the total project.
Mr. Levy stated that the Negative Declaration was prepared for Phase 1
`�-- but before anything else is constructed CEQA guidelines would be met
Planner III stated that CEQA requires an full assessment of a project in
a tiered fashion including the ultimate project which is not being
addressed; and that wind turbines may be proposed in the ponds and on
the dikes between the ponds. He stated that it may be inappropriate to
extend the dikes to protect the turbines because the natural open space
quality would be lost. He described the dikes asbeing 400 feet apart
and 10 feet high with the top of the dike at 50 feet where there may be
wind turbines. He stated- that in the past small dikes have failed and
have caused minor flooding on Indian Avenue. He described the config-
uration_of the dikes and stated that they are constructed to fail in a
series so that flooding is not in one stage. He stated that a portion
of the project is within the City limits, but that the CVWD did notcon-
tact City staff nor have the impacts of the EIR been quantified. He
stated that the staff has not seen the Whitewater Flood Plain - channeli-
zation program and its effect on Indian Avenue and that the potential
substantial impact requires public review. He stated also that recrea-
tional water use should be reviewedwith the CVWD.
Planning Director stated that there are many concerns and that growth
inducing impacts vis a vis water and land use have not been discussed
with the District. He stated that liquifaction has not been addressed,
and that the environmental review has been treated lightly. He noted
that no discussion of land use or open space impacts has been held. He
requested that the CEQA/NEPA study remain open until issues have been
addressed and also that urbanization and City services should be
addressed. He stated that the City will meet with the County on sphere
planning on Friday with a joint document to be prepared by the summer of
184. He stated that dialogue needs to be developed for projects in the
sphere area and that the percolation pond issue is before City Council
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MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
DISCUSSION - CASE 5'.0310 (MISC. ). Commission discussion of proposed expansion
of existing percolation ponds (DWA & CVWD) in the Whitewater Flood Plain
west of Indian Avenue within the sphere of influence.
Planner III stated that the percolation pond _expansion came to the
attention of the staff approximately 2 months ago as a side issue in
discussions with the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) on another project
and that Phase 1 construction is scheduled to begin on April_ 2 He
stated that construction would be staged over the approximately 20 years
and that the purpose of the present expansion is to store an advance
allotment of water from the Metropolitan Water District (MWD). He
stated the normal allocation is 61,000 acre feet with an annual increase
to 200,000 acre feet under the advanced allocation program. He stated
that 150,000 acre feet had been added to the groundwater basin in the
past 10 years so that acceleration of recharge can be done during a one
year rather than a 10 year period; and that the project is located
within the Whitewater Flood Plain from Windy Point to Indian Avenue and
from Highway Ill to the Southern Pacific Railroad and involves a five to
six square mile area. He described environmental documents prepared
previously for the first percolation ponds and stated that in the 1983
document there was no mention of expansion of the ponds. He noted that
the document distributed to the Planning Commission was from the,: Coa-
chella Valley Water District (CVWD) for Phase 1 and that it is incon-
sistent with CEQA which states that the entire project must be addressed
and that the document is inadequate for a project of the proposed scope.
He stated that BLM document begins to address the expansion but its
references require updating and that technical questions should be
addressed to Tom Levy of the CVWD who is a specialist in ground
water recharge (project manager).
? Chairman stated that he had attended a meeting with Mr. Levy regarding
the expansion ponds and that the expansion would not result in any' addi-
tional water other than what has originally been contracted for (the-
same quantity of water but in a accelerated -timeframe).
Planner III explained the mechanics of water delivery to the Coachella
Valley from MWD in normal and drought conditions and explained that the
water is traded for ease in delivery. In reply to Commission question,
he stated that the water is perked only during non-summer months when
the evaporation rate is less than in summer months.
T. Levy of the Coachella Valley Water District (CVWD), Coache la, Cali-
fornia, explained that the District is proposing to practice good water
I . management by storing the water in the expanded percolation ponds in
order to make water available to MWD or to northern California during
periods of drought. He stated that the percolation will be done during
j periods of low water evaporation.
Commissioner Lawrence questioned whether or not the advantages out-
weighedof disturbing the desert environment. Mr.
wei hed the disadvantages s
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Levy stated that storing water ensures that the valley's water supply is
maintained and is not depleted when droughts occur in northern Califor-
nia. He stated that the evaporation rate is approximately 1%.
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on decrease or increase of water costs. He explained that two projects
are involved and that an environmental assessment was done for the first
stage per CEQA guidelines and that the second project is an application
filed with the BLM which is a permit to grant a right for expansion for
the future which will have an environmental assessment per CEQA before
anything is constructed. He stated that the ground water level has been
going down and with the expansion of the percolation ponds the water
level will rise, but not beyond the point of non-pumping in the Valley.
He stated that the additional water would not cause lubrication of the
fault and precipitate an earthquake. He noted that the ground would not
be saturated from the ground water table to the surface since the pond-
ing is not a continuous situation and will not change conditions that
would naturally occur.
Commissioner Lawrence stated that the project should be reviewed
totally.
Mr. Levy stated that the BLM required a construction plan for a permit
to "hold" the land although the proposed final expansion will be in
approximately 30 years. He reiterated that an EIR would be done on
future construction and stated in reply to Commission question that the
City was not notified because the project the Negative Declaration
covers is not in the City and there is no requirement to notify the
City, although City staff was given material when it was requested. He
stated that the CVWD has worked with the BLM for one and a half years
and was sorry that City staff was unaware of the project.
Discussion followed on future annexation of the area. Concensus was
that it would be a City Council concern.
In response to a Commission question, Mr. Levy stated that the excess
water proposed to be placed in the percolation ponds is now flowing the
Gulf of Mexico and that the preliminary hydrology report indicates
p Y
that flooding on Indian Avenue would be less than that of a 10-year
storm. He stated that in spontaneous failure ofthe levee the water
would spread equal to a 10-year storm since the levee is approximately 2
miles from Indian Avenue and has space in which to spread. He stated
that there are dikes protecting the City on one side in case of flooding
and that the humidity of the water storage is insignificant comparing to
the humidity caused by irrigation of agriculture in the lower Coachella
Valley.
In reply to Chairman's question, Mr. Levy stated that the plan has gone
through an authorized procedure, that the public had a chance to review
the proposal in conjunction with the CEQA process for the District, and
that the City's staff would be kept aprised of projects (in the future).
Chairman stated that the only obstacle to construction of Phase 2 is the
CEQA process.
Planning Director stated that the storage and distribution of water
facilities is specifically exempt from local zoning control since water
agencies are autonomous and that there is very little interaction and
control under normal circumstances unless the area is annexed. He
stated that the City has some authority since the environment assessment
is inadquate and most of the documentation is not concerned with
construction of the dikes but with the delivery of the water.
March 14, 1984 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
the on March 21 with no time for discussion with the CVWD or the County.
He stated in reply to Commission question that the reason for Planning
Commission review of the document in its incomplete form was that the
BLM is ready to take action on the permit and that the comment period is
over on the 26th of March which is the day the BLM intends to take
action. He stated that the staff requested Commission and Council com-
�ment rather than staff response to concerns and that the Commission can
state that the environmental assessment is incomplete. Planner III
stated that the BLM has had the application for approximately a year
which is a typical turnaround time and that the staff was told that the
BLM does not need comments from the City Council but if City comments
were forthcoming the time period would be 20-days (March 20, 1983) . He
noted that the BLM feels that the project is minor and requires little
environmental documentation; and that the environmental assessment is a
statement rather than an analysis. He noted that staff had requested a
two-week extension of the review period which was refused by the BLM
although the City could comment on the day the action is taken, and
that it is probable that the City's comments will have little impact.
Chairman stated that in recent discussions with a Councilman, he learned
that there are 27 golf courses in the planning stages in the Valley
which result in use of 1 million gallons of water per day per course.
He stated that if there were not as much growth the Commission probably
would not be reviewing the proposed percolation pond expansion. He
noted that the project is very important- with a regional significance
and has a massive impact, that the City did not know about the -project
except by accident and that no public hearings have been scheduled. He
stated that he had read the document and could not decipher 'it because
the reference materials noted in it were in Coachella He stated that
the Corp of Engineers has stated in the City's seimic safety element or
other documentation that significant hydrostatic pressure in a seismic
fault could cause fault slippage and that in the event of an earthquake
of significant magnitude the Palm Springs area could be inundated by
flood waters. He stated that an unlined 10 foot levy will not contain a
major flood and the _water is aimed at the weakest flood control dike
(between Sunrise Way and Palm Drive). He stated that he wondered what
the criteria would be if an engineer were proposing to build a dam
across- the Tahquitz Canyon, that he had procedural concerns and wondered
how a negative declaration could be made in July 1983 for a -project of
regional significance. He stated that there were other concerns incud-
ing growth and infringment on the fringe-toed lizard area.
Commissioner Madsen stated that the document is contradictory since it
finds no effect on the fringe-toed lizard but when the dikes are built
the lizard will inhabit the area.
Chairman expressed other concerns with the document includinglubrica
-
tion of fault lines.
Commissioner Lawrence stated that obstruction of views will cause are
aesthetic impact.
In response to Commission question, Planning Director stated that the
Desert Water Agency (DWA) and the CVWD both knew of the proposal .
In response to Commission question, Mr. Levy stated that the long-term
impact is that the same amount of water will be obtained but the supply
will be in the ground water basin and that statistics were not available
March 14, 1984 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Discussion followed on the type of Commission action.
M/S/C (Lawrence/Apfelbaum, Curtis absent) that the Commission make the
Council aware of the concerns discussed including lubrication of an
earthquake fault, aesthetics, flooding, regional impact, future annexa-
tion of the area, inadequate environmental assessment and review period
for the City, and inadequacy of land preservation for the fringe-toed
lizard. The Commission also stated in the motion that the CWCD should
pay $750 an acre for land purchase for a fringe-toed lizard preserve,
and that a full EIR should be prepared noting the Commission's concerns.
Discussion followed on the possible mitigative measures. Planner III
stated that the full EIR should be a joint one following CEQA and NEPA
guidelines.
Commission recessed at this time (4:20) .
Chairman stated that another member of the audience wished to voice an
opinion (4:30) .
Mrs. R. Lecata, 530 N. Calle Marcus, stated that the percolation ponds
would have a profound impact on the Valley; that the public has not been
adequately informed on the impacts, and that the proposal could cause
"delayed shock" to the public. She suggested that the City take legal
action in the public interest. She stated in response to Chairman's
question that water quality had not been reviewed by the Commission and
questioned the quality of water to be received by the City if the perco-
lation ponds are constructed.
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Council Chamber, City Hall
March 28, 1984
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1983 - 1984
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to date
Richard Service, Chairman X 15 2
Hugh Curtis - 15 2
Hugh Kaptur X 14 3
Peter Koetting X 15 2
Don Lawrence X 16 1
Paul Madsen X 16 1
Sharon Apfelbaum X 16 1
Staff Present
Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director
Sigfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney
George Parmenter, Traffic Engineer
John Terell, Redevelopment Planner
Michael Dotson, Planner II
Douglas R. Evans, Planner III
` Robert Green, Planner II
Dave Forcucci, Zoning Enforcement Officer
Mary E. Lawler, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee Present - March 26, 1984
James Cioffi, Chairman
Earl Neel
Chris Mills
Hugh Curtis
William Johnson
Sharon Apfelbaum
Michael Buccino
William Johnson
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
M/S/C (Apfelbaum/Koetting (Lawrence absent) approving the minutes with the
exception of Case 5.0312-MISC. (percolation ponds) since a page was
inadvertently deleted; and with a revision to Sign Application (Spa Hotel) as
follows: The motion should read (final motion, Page 8) :
AYES: Kaptur, Koetting, Madsen
NOES: Apfelbaum, Lawrence, Service
ABSENT: Curtis
M/S/C (Apfelbaum/Kaptur; Lawrence absent) approving Case 5.0312-MISC with the
addition of the final page re: discussion and motion (see attachment to
Minutes of 3-28) .