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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
Council Chamber, City Hall
. June 22, 1983
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1982 - 1983
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to date
Richard Service, Chairman X 22 1
Hugh Curtis X 22 1
Darel Harris X 21 2
Hugh Kaptur X 20 3
Peter Koetting X 21 2
Don Lawrence X 21 2
Paul Madsen X 19 4
Staff Present
John A. Mangione, Director of Community Development
Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director
Siegfried.Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney
Kenneth E. Feenstra, Redevelopment Director
George Parmenter, Traffic Engineer
Dave Forcucci, Zoning Enforcement Officer II
Stephen Graham, Planner III
Doug Evans, Planner III
Robert Green, Planner II
Diana Ericksen, Community Development Coordinator
Karl Beckley, Engineering Aide III
Tom Lynch, Economic Development & Housing Director
Vicki Nelson, Economic Development Coordinator
John Terell , Housing & Redevelopment Specialist
Mary Isenberg, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee Present - June 20, 1983
Larry Lapham, Chairman Absent: Earl Neel
James Cioffi
Chris Mills
David Hamilton
William Johnson, Alternate
Peter Koetting
Hugh Curtis
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
M/S/C (Harris/Koetting) approving minutes of June 8 with the following
addition:
Page 8, Case 3.573, (after Concern No. 10) relative to Concern No. 1:
Commissioner Koetting questioned the term "surround". Planning Director
explained that the arch elements (surrounds) match from one portion of
the project to the other.
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ADMINISTRATIVE NOTES
Chairman stated that items will be addressed out of order with Case
5.0275-PD-147 to be reviewed at 2 p.m. and Case 5.0252-B-F (MISC. ) to be
reviewed first. He also explained to interested persons in the audience
that Case 2.803 would be removed from the agenda since the applicant
will comply with City requirements.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
CASE 5.0252-8-F (MISC) . Initiation by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS of an initial
study/environmental assessment for the following redevelopment projects:
B. Ramon/Bogie, Sec. 19, 20, 17;
C. S. Palm Canyon, Sec. 22, 23;
D. Oasis, Sec. 15;
E. N. Palm Canyon, Sec. 10, 11;
F. Highland/Gateway, Sec. 34, 35.
Recommendation: That the Planning Commission order the preparation of a
single draft EIR with separate sections for each redevelopment project
area.
Chairman explained that an environmental assessment /initial study has
been prepared for the project areas to determine whether or not an EIR
should be done.
Planning Director stated that each area is unique with unique
environmental impacts; that the projects are not on the same timetable
as the Tahquitz/Andreas project area; and that staff is recommending
preparation of an EIR focused in each area per the issues outlined in
the initial studies.
Housing & Redevelopment Specialist stated that the five separate areas
would be in one EIR in separate sections with some overlap in some areas
and would be adopted at the same time which is legal according to the
EIR consultant; that there may be some additional cost initially in case
supplements are required; that the South Palm Canyon and Ramon/Bogie
projects will be completed by the end of 1983 with the other completed
in the summer of 1984; and that there is considerable savings in the
long term in combining the areas into one EIR.
Planning Director stated that the Tribal Council comments had been
received disapproving further action on the South Palm Canyon project
and the Ramon/Bogie project until certain issues were addressed.
Chairman declared the hearing open; there being no appearances, the
hearing was closed.
M/S/C (Lawrence/Koetting) approving a single EIR document combining all
project areas.
M/S/C ( Koetting/Lawrence) ordering the preparation of a draft
environmental impact report for individual redevelopment project areas to
be combined in a single EIR document.
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CASE 5.0252-B-F (MISC. ) (Cont' d. )
Housing & Redevelopment Specialist stated regarding the Tribal Council
concerns, that he did not know whether or not it was appropriate to
discuss benefits to fee owners at the present time but that a meeting
could be arranged with the Tribal Council to discuss issues; and that it
was too late to change the boundary lines on the Ramon/Bogie project
area but it could be done later if necessary.
Tribal Council comments:
"After consideration of the recommendations of the Indian Planning
Commission, the Tribal Council disapproved any further action to proceed
with a redevelopment project in the Ramon/Bogie Redevelopment Project
Area and the South Palm Canyon Redevelopment Project ARea until such
time as the following issues are addressed:
1. Determination of possible benefits to the fee owners and to
the community as a whole relative to the vacant lands in the
Ramon/Bogie area.
2. Rationale for including the area southerly of Mesquite
Avenue within the South Palm Canyon Area, including possible
benefits to the fee owners and to the community as a whole."
• CASE 5.0275-PD-147. Application by E. DeBARTOLO CORP./DESERT FASHION PLAZA for
a planned development district to allow remodeling and expansion of the
Desert Inn Fashion Plaza on Tahquitz-McCallum Way/North Palm Canyon
Drive and redevelopment of the block north of the existing Desert
Fashion Plaza to include the closure of Andreas Road, the development of
additional retail space, parking facilities, and the development of a
207-room hotel , C-B-D Zone, Section 15.
Recommendation: That the Planning Commission take no action other than
noting any concerns of environmental impacts relating to the design of
the project.
Director of Community Development gave a brief history of the area
stating that there had been a loss in the economic viability of the
downtown; that SAX was unhappy with its present location in the
financial section of the City and was considering relocation to the
Desert Fashion Plaza area; that originally another developer had been
contacted regarding expansion of the Desert Fashion Plaza; that Andreas
Road had been recommended by the Commission to be changed from a
collector to a local street which could then be vacated; that City
Council considered the action but tabled the amendment to the General
Plan Land Use Plan until an application could be made for expansion so
other factors could be reviewed; that recent meetings had been held
wherein the DeBartolo Corp. had presented its case and that the
Corporation representatives would be presenting a preliminary approach
to the Commission on the Corporation' s philosophy and overall
• development plans for the project in a series of public hearings; that
an EIR is being done presently; that the present public hearing was for
input only with no decisions to be made until the EIR is complete; that
the project is a major one and could be a turning point in the
redevelopment process downtown; and that the DeBartolo Corporation would
present its concept in tying the hotel and mall together.
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CASE 5.0275-PD-147 (Cont'd. )
• Planning Director stated that the Commission should consider any
additional areas of EIR impact; and the concept and beginning of
architectural thoughts and schemes to establish solid communication
between staff, Commission, and the developer.
H. Biel , project coordinator, introduced the team consultants
architects, engineering firms, and financial consultants) and explained
the inception of the project stating that the key points were
unification of the expansion and existing part of the project as a
single functional unit with equal partnership between the DeBartolo
Corp. and the Desert Fashion Plaza; that the western edge of the project
is important and a restaurant/patio dining will face the mountain on
that edge; that parking would be provided by narrowing the existing
grassy strip between the Museum and the Fashion Plaza to construct
parking spaces; that the underground parking facility will be underneath
the expansion part of the project; that the parking spaces resulting
will be within the average for an urban project; that SAX will be
located at the western edge of Andreas, with small adjacent shops, and
with a major 207-suite hotel adjacent to the shops; that the current
project design is sensitive to the delicate balance of Palm Springs;
that there are two major challenges which are taking pedestrian traffic
from Palm Canyon and introducing traffic to the western extremity of the
project and to the Desert Museum and increasing east/west traffic, and
insuring that the existing center should be just as successful as the
• planned expansion space. He described the expertise of the DeBartolo
Corporation and stated that the project needs tenant mix, a design
sympathy and efficient traffic ingress and egress to make it viable. He
presented and explained slides on the following topics: a) the parking
structure on Palm Canyon; b) the parking field; c) the northeast view
perspective; d) the hotel building footprint; e) the northwest quadrant;
f) cross-sections north along Palm Canyon; g) the vegetation plan; h)
the western edge of the project; i ) Desert Fashion Plaza Drive; j)
cross-section of the adequacy and shelter of the parking; k) west
elevation study; 1) cross-section facing south from Amado; m) cross-
section of the western edge; n) cross-section showing south to north
looking toward the hotel ; o) cross-section of the parking field; and p)
cross-section through the hotel . He stated that a key concern was the
sight line view perspective of the mountain; that a balloon had been
raised to a 60-foot height and a hotel superimposed on photographs to
demonstrate "blockage" of various views but that only one area
diagonally from the corner of Amado and Palm Canyon had been blocked;
that the landscape and site plan would be left on the display board for
the Planning Director's commentary; that staff was responsive and
helpful ; that the original plan had been improved considerably; and that
a scale model had also been prepared.
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CASE 5.0275-PD-147 (Cont' d. )
Planning Director stated that the Tribal Council had commented on the
project but had not included a letter that was to accompany the
comments; that the telephone company had commented on the project; that
a specific plan for Amado seems to be appropriately designed; that
straight-forward comments had been received from the Development
Committee; that the newly hired Traffic Engineer had met with the
project traffic engineer and received a traffic analysis; that the AAC
noted that the massing and height were acceptable; that the hotel
element on Amado was no particular problem but could be softened perhaps
by stair-stepping; that the trellis element had not been developed fully
enough to make a strong architectural statement; that there should be
more openings for pedestrians to enter the project; that there may be a
conflict with pedestrians and vehicles on Palm Canyon; that celestory
windows letting light into the existing mall will be incorporated; and
that there is a partnership line which may make it difficult to terrace
an extension of the hotel over the mall . He then discussed the street
scheme on Palm Canyon, including the concept of a shade tree canopy, and
other minor issues. He noted that directly accessing the front ramp
from the covered porte cochere area was a consideration; and that stair-
stepping south of the mall was being discussed with the Redevelopment
Director. (Dr. Biel stated that it was being investigated but would
involve partnership lines. )
R. Arthur, President, Palm Springs Savings & Loan, stated that he
. supported the project since increasing business increases business at
financial institutions and suggested everyone work to make the project a
reality as soon as possible.
Robert Fey, representing the Board of Realtors, stated that the Board is
almost totally supportive of the project; and that all major concerns
have been addressed and will be covered in the EIR. He urged that the
project move forward.
Mrs. R. Licata, representing the League of Women Voters, spoke neither
in favor nor in opposition to the project, but commended the City for
publicizing the meetings to allow input on the expansion project. She
stated that the League believes that democratic government depends upon
the informed and active participation of its citizens. She read a
letter from the League (on file in the Department of Community
Development) and stated that the League anticipates that the open policy
of cooperation will be followed as the project plans mature.
J. Stewart, 155 Hermosa Drive, representing Desert Citizens United,
presented the following concerns of the organization:
1. That the project adhere to parking regulations for hotels.
2. That underground parking be carried on along the western portion
with entrance and exit along Tahquitz with the grass to remain.
3. That the western end of Tahquitz be redesigned as a cul-de-sac for
traffic and to enhance the Museum.
• 4. That Andreas be realigned and kept open between the project and
the new retail street.
5. That highrise hotels be limited to south of Alejo Road.
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CASE 5.0275-PD-147 (Cont'd. )
• He stated that the recommendations result from discussions people
acquainted with the project; and that downtown Palm Springs must be
saved to save Palm Springs.
Mrs. L. Graves, Secretary, Desert Peoples United, stated that the DPU,
in existence since 1972, has as its first function the protection of the
air, water, land, and environment of the City; that the project is
exciting but questioned how the traffic problems can be resolved, (which
is the DPU' s main objection) ; that the project, especially the hotel and
closure of Andreas, will increase traffic; that the project is of high
quality but the DPU has prepared a resolution against the construction;
that the Mayor has suggested a meeting of DPU members but many are gone
for the summer; that a letter had been sent polling the members with the
result that 189 replies out of 202 were in opposition to the project;
that the Board of Directors has requested that the signatures be
presented to the Commission and the City Council ; that only one member
of the organization will be in Palm Springs for the summer meetings;
that although she did not have the original letter relative to
environmental impact of the project, she would forward it to the
Commission; that the letter objected to the closure of Andreas, the six-
story hotel , and increasing traffic because of the ingress and egress on
Palm Canyon; and that doubt had been expressed that the Board
represented its members regarding the DeBartolo project and that was the
reason the "polling" letter had been prepared and was sent to the
• members for their input.
Planning Director stated that staff had seen the form letter which
outlined two positions for the members to indicate their preference.
W. Kleindienst, architect, stated that concessions are being given to
the project on parking; (Planning Director stated that the overall
parking meets standards. ) that there is a congestion problem downtown
which makes it very difficult for traffic to move during the season and
this should be considered; that the project has validity but service
issues such as the loading dock should be addressed; questioned the
safety of the underground parking lot at night; stated that access off
Palm Canyon could be alleviated by using Amado as the front of the
hotel ; that the length of the project along Alejo is too long; that the
project must have consideration of its impacts; and questioned the
upgrading of property in the redevelopment area which will then be
bought by the City at an inflated cost.
R. Gorney, 1790 Araby Drive, stated that he wa in favor of the concept
but that the actual project is different from the concept; that the
project should not be reviewed in the summer when citizens are out of
the City; requested that the public hearing schedule be revised since it
would not affect the project if hearings were postponed until December;
apologized for remarks he had made regarding particular persons; stated
that SAX is presently located in Palm Springs and by moving they will
not add retail ; that the majority of the new floor area will be devoted
to a hotel ; that Palm Springs leads the Valley in the number of hotels
at the present time and that a major retail area should not be given to
a hotel ; that the "San Francisco look" is not appropriate in Palm
Springs; that access to the Museum will be difficult with the proposed
street configuration; that the closure of Andreas should be separated
from the project; that if any other organization except DeBartolo had
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CASE 5.0275-PD-147 (Cont'd. )
• presented the project at its present stage, the City would not have
considered it.
Mrs. D. Siegel , Playa Circle, suggested that Amado going toward the
Museum be made one-way from Palm Canyon so that traffic can go around
the project; that the six story hotel is not the Palm Springs "look";
that other hotels are not allowed that height; and that the front of the
hotel should be on Amado to alleviate traffic problems.
H. Biel (rebuttal) , in response to Mr. Kleindiest, stated that the
length along Palm Canyon will be articulated vertically and
horizontally; that there are several loading facilities; that a high
volume of parking spaces will be added to the existing spaces; that the
project will enhance the parking and traffic; and that the hotel is no
higher than the Spa, which is an existing precedent.
Mrs. V. McGinty stated that Beverly Hills has solved a similar problem
by ingressing at one end of a project and egressing at the other; that
Palm Springs could solve the problem if Los Angeles can.
There being no further appearances, the hearing was closed.
Chairman requested that Commissioners express concerns about the project
and not a position; that staff express concerns beginning with major
• ones.
Planning Director stated that overall massing concepts and their effect
downtown should be considered; that a four to five hundred space parking
deficiency will be eliminated by the project; that anchoring the project
at the north and with a six story hotel is an issue, and that the
relationship of it to the existing center with the access points as
shown is also an issue.
Commission concerns: Commissioner Curtis stated that his concerns are
in the AAC Minutes (on file in the Department of Community Development) ;
that an additional entrance should be provided to the hotel ; that
signing for the underground parking mall will be difficult and that it
would be difficult to see that it was a shopping center; that the west
side of the curb should be landscaped along O'Donnel Golf Course; and
that the view restaurant is a good way to coordinate the hotel and the
retail businesses.
Commissioner Madsen stated that Palm Canyon frontage landscaping could
be a problem since too much landscaping, including the trellis, detracts
from the center; that he was concerned about the aesthetics of the
restaurant area between the Museum and the project; and questioned the
reasons for its being open.
Planning Director stated that it was open in response to the
relationship between the mall and the Museum to take advantage of the
open space and the view and the AAC thought it was an exciting concept.
Commissioner Lawrence stated that he was concerned about traffic
although that concern is being addressed in the EIR.
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CASE 5.0275-PD-147 (Cont'd. )
Commissioner Koetting stated that pedestrian access on Palm Canyon was
hazardous because of the driveways; that the height and stair stepping
was acceptable; that there should be relief on Amado frontage; that
additional rooms could be added over the mall ; that the service loading
area is a problem and should be landscaped; that there should be offset
parking along Museum and Andreas; that the landscaping should be
improved along O'Donnel ; that the corner should be widened for easier
access for turning right at Tahquitz; that there was a potential
conflict at the Tahquitz entrance to the parking lot; that the offset of
the parking entrance and Belardo should be studied; that with the
massing in the mall , and the roof over the mall , more light will be
necessary; and that the street facade on Palm Canyon will thrive on
activity and should be retained.
Commissioner Harris stated that he was concerned about the bottleneck as
proposed with ingress on Palm Canyon and that the stepped back detail
should be wrapped around the corner; that he was sympathetic with the
neighbors across the street who would be forced out of business by the
project; that there should be "real " open space.
Commissioner Kaptur stated that he agreed with AAC recommendations
regarding stepping back the hotel on the north face; that the more
entrances there are, the more pedestrian traffic will be interrupted;
and that the subterranean parking is difficult to design artistically
• since they are dark holes.
Tribal Council comments:
"In response to the Notice of Preparation of a Draft Environmental
Impact Report for the subject project dated May 9, 1983, the Tribal
Council is submitting its comments as to the scope and content of the
environmental information of particular concern to the Tribal Council .
Those comments are contained in the enclosed copy of the Tribal
Council 's letter of June 21, 1983 to the Department of Community
Development."
PUBLIC COMMENTS
None.
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ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS
The Planning Commission reviewed plans, discussed, and took action on
the following items involving architectural approval subject to the
conditions as outlined.
CASE 3.559. Application by EISNER-SMITH PLANNERS for Palm Canyon Associates
for architectural approval of revised plans for a 270-room resort hotel
on East Palm Canyon Drive between Cherokee Way/Southridge Drive, C-2
Zone (I.L. ) , Section 30.
Planning Director stated that the project was placed on the AAC agenda
for informal review only but when recommended for approval the applicant
requested it be placed on the Planning Commission agenda; that the
project was displayed in the Small Conference Room and the Commission
could adjourn to the room to review it. (The Commission adjourned to
the Small Conference Room. )
Discussion: Details of the project. Elimination of the second floor
arches was discussed. T. Koehnline, architect, stated that the detail
was consistent throughout the project. Planning Director stated that
the brick sill was not a condition originally and that the applicants
prefer not to have that detail . Mr. Koehnline stated that he thought
that the plaster application was also a suggestion.
After returning to the Council Chamber, Planning Director stated that he
• had been told by the architect that conditions were not as he understood
them from the AAC review; that the brick sill element and the final site
plan are issues.
Mr. Koehnline stated that he thought the landscape plan was approved
with minor review of the materials. Commissioner Koetting that the AAC
landscape architect suggested that the landscape be reviewed against the
elevations with the use of desert plant materials.
Mr. Koehnline noted that the general basic site plan was approved and
that the cooling tower location had been revised and screened.
M/S/C (Koetting/Harris) approving the application subject to the
following conditions:
1. That plaster edges be rounded.
2. That a brick sill be used on arch windows with the brick to match
the tile.
3. That the proportions on the Porte cochere be shown on the detail
sheet. (See pencil notation on the plan. )
4. That shot plaster be used throughout to give a varied texture to
the building.
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CASE 3.559 (Cont' d. )
• 5. That the landscape plan be further studied to review the
following:
a) Revised plant placement.
b) Increased variety of trees.
c) Elevations submitted which allow comparison of landscape
forms on the building elevations.
d) Tree forms to visually soften the elevations, especially
Building "F".
6. That the final site plan be reviewed and approved by staff.
TENTATIVE TRACT AND PARCEL MAPS
Planning Director reviewed and explained the map and the Planning
Commission discussed and took action on the following parcel map based
on the finding that the proposed subdivision, tegether with the
provisions for design and improvement, are consistent with the General
Plan of the City of Palm Springs. A Negative Declaration has been
ordered filed based on the finding that the project will not have a
significant adverse effect on the environment and subject to conditions
as outlined.
TPM 19405. Application by KWL ASSOCIATES INC. , for the Jewish Community
Center for approval of combination of lots at the northwest corner of
Alejo Road/Cahuilla Road, R-1-A Zone, Section 10.
(Previously given environmental assessment in conjunction with Case
5.0201-PD-135. )
M/S/C (Koetting/Lawrence; Madsen abstained) approving TPM 19405 subject
to all conditions of the Development Committee.
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
CASE 5.0262-ZTA (Revised) . Initiation by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS of revision
to amendments to the conditional use permit section (9402.00) of the
Zoning Ordinance. (Referred back by City Council . )
(Given environmental assessment previously in conjunction with original
review of the case. )
Recommendation: That the Commission approve revised Case 5.0262-ZTA.
Planning Director stated that the case was referred back to the
Commission by Council with concerns about service stations, regarding
the 250 ft. requirement for residential zones, the pump definition (the
revision was acceptable to the Commission) , and non-automotive accessory
uses; that the service stations with today' s technology may not be the
place to service cars; that the Shell station rebuild will be coming
back for Commission review after being tabled for traffic issues.
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CASE 5.0262-ZTA (Cont'd. )
• Discussion: Background and reasons for staff recommendations. Planning
Director stated that the current standard is 1500 sq. ft. , and that the
PVO station on Sunrise Way was allowed a dentist office in the rear in
conjunction with architectural approval .
Chairman declared the hearing open.
W. Kleindienst, 3963 Calle San Antonio, stated that the concept of mini-
markets is that they are unsightly but that if the market design were to
be approved through the AAC and Planning Commission, it would be
acceptable and that to deny the mini-market service station combination
would be to restrict construction of stations in the City and close
other stations; that whether or not a mini-market should be combined
with a gas station should be decided by the gasoline company; that gas
stations are a necessity for the tourist business; that mini-market
construction should be reviewed individually; that historically the
first gas stations were general stores with pumps; and that perhaps the
concept will return.
There being no further appearances, the hearing was closed.
M/S/C (Kaptur/Harris; Curtis/Koetting dissented) to continue the case to
July 13.
Chairman directed staff to review the revisions and consider
architectural control of the combination usage.
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
DETERMINATION 10.335. COMMISSION determination that a complete recycling
center is a proper use in the M-1 zone, City-wide.
Planning Director explained that the request is different from the
recent request for a "drop-off" recycling facility since this is a
complete processing plant; that the Director of Community Development
requested specific Planning Commission determination on the use.
Discussion: Allowance of the use and its aesthetics. Commissioner
Koetting stated that it should be under a CUP because of the magnitude
since it is noisy and more industrial in character than anything in the
City.
M/S/C (Koetting/Kaptur) determining that a recycling center is a proper
use in the M-1 Zone under a conditional use permit.
Planning Director stated that staff would develop clear wording for the
determination.
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ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Continued)
• CASE 2.709. Application by THRIFTY DRUG STORES for architectural approval of
revised sign program for Thrifty Drug, Big 5, and Sandy's Restaurant
complex on South Palm Canyon Drive between Amado Road/Ramon Road, C-B-D
Zone, Section 15.
Planning Director stated that a request had been received to revise the
sign program for the complex including Thrifty, Big 5 and Sandy's
Restaurant; that much time had been spent by Commission and staff in
1975 to devise a good sign program; and that the applicant feels that
the present signs are not readable during the day because of the the
size and mass of the letters.
Zoning Enforcement Officer stated that the applicant wants a sign like
the one at the Liquor Barn.
Discussion: Crown Book Store sign. Consensus was that the Crown Book
Store was not on the same frontage as the other businesses and should
not be required to change its sign. Commissioner Curtis stated that the
two dissenting AAC votes were because the architects felt that the
present signs were effective and should remain.
M/S/C (Lawrence/Kaptur; Curtis/Koetting dissented) approving the
application subject to the following conditions:
• 1. That all plexiglass match the existing Liquor Barn in terms of
color and flat finish with color chips and numbers to be submitted
for staff approval .
2. That all metal cabinets be painted with a flat finish to match the
Liquor Barn.
3. That all permits and details be submitted before signs are placed
on the building.
4. That Crown Book Store sign remain as is pending any further
signing requests for the complex.
CASE 3.577. Application by KAPTUR & CIOFFI for R. Silberman for architectural
approval of remodel and addition for temporary retail/office and parking
on Belardo Road between Alejo Road/Amado Road, C-B-D Zone, Section 15.
Redevelopment Director explained the background of the Youth Center
building and stated that the Redevelopment Agency is helping to
establish a temporary use of the building as a restaurant and
retail/office use in a general revitalizing of the area; that the old
Texaco station will be demolished and the underground gas tanks properly
filled.
M/S/C (Harris/Curtis; Kaptur/Service abstained) approving the
application subject to the following conditions:
1. That broad leafed trees be used in the open area to the east of
the property.
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CASE 3.577 (Cont'd. )
2. That detailed landscaping, irrigation and exterior lighting plans
be submitted.
3. That a double trash enclosure be used.
4. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be met.
Commissioner Kaptur left the meeting at this point.
CASE 3.582. Application by A. WILKES for architectural approval of a condo-
minium/apartment hotel on Baristo Road between Avenida
Caballeros/Sunrise Way, R-4 Zone ( I .L. ) , Section 14.
(Environmental assessment and tentative approval . )
Planner II explained that the condotel is a new concept and is a hybrid
in which the units are sold as condominiums and then leased back to the
management for rental as a hotel use; that no predetermination of the
percentage of hotel and condominium use has been provided by the
applicant; that there is a sewer capacity problem since sewer capacity
was calculated at R-GA(8) density; that the applicant will develop the
first phase only and defer development of the remainder of the property
until there is adequate sewer capacity; that staff felt that
calculations should be prepared on the full condominium capacity since
there are no established standards.
Discussion: Density calculations and unresolved problems of the
project. Commission requested the architect to explain.
A. Wilkes, architect, explained that the property was Indian land and
belongs to one person; that a tract map will be filed for it; that the
hotel is designed as a full hotel operation with the intent to sell as a
condominium with a leaseback and then operated as a hotel ; and that it
was not a timeshare and will be under the full condominium process of
the Department of Real Estate.
Commissioner Koetting stated that the rooms are sold individually and
when the owner is in residence, it is a condominium; but when leased, it
is a hotel ; and that the project has a commercial restaurant.
Planning Director explained that the project is like the Racquet Club in
which the restaurant is mainly for service of the units, not outside
customers; and that it is a difficult use to control but may integrate
with future development in Section 14.
Chairman requested staff to research the use with the City of
. Scottsdale, Arizona, since it has a hotel similar to the proposal . He
questioned whether or not a room tax would be levied.
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CASE 3.582 (Cont'd. )
• Assistant City Attorney stated that room tax would not be paid when a
person stays in his own condominium (even though a good argument could
be made for paying the tax) , but that a person can lease the
condominium; that he did not know whether or not the project would lose
the right of accessory uses granted to resort hotels (in this case, the
restaurant) if the project achieved a high occupancy of non-transient
visitors; and that this type of issue would arise when the tentative map
is before the Commission with the only review at present being on
architectural approval and limited by constraints of the Zoning
Ordinance.
Planning Director stated that if the Commission finds that the use is
inconsistent with the Zoning Ordinance, it can request more detail , or
the project could be made to comply with the Ordinance by removing
accesory commercial uses, or the project could be reviewed at a study
session; that a freestanding restaurant use would not normally be
allowed in the zone; that with a hotel use the restaurant would not
require a tract map; that the project differs from La Mancha because
that is a private club with a small restaurant serving mainly club
members; and that perhaps a consideration should be made as to the scale
of the restaurant.
Commissioner Koetting suggested that the City of Napa be contacted
relative to a similar project in that city; that he has concerns about
• the two driveways on Belardo and suggested that there be only one so
that there would be more parking; and that the curb cuts were too close
together.
Mr. Wilkes stated that there is a porte cochere and the client wanted
one way in and one way out; that the restaurant was not a public
commercial restaurant, would have no signing, and would not be visible
from the street since it is in the interior of the project.
Planning Director stated that when the sewer study is completed, the
project will be placed back on the agenda and the burden of providing
the study is on the applicant not the City.
M/S/C (Curtis/Koetting; Kaptur absent) continuing the environmental
assessment subject to the preparation of a sewer study as recommended in
the initial study and tentative architectural approval subject to:
1. A restudy of the landscaping noting the following:
a) Reduction of the number of deciduous trees, especially
around the pool area where palms should be used.
b) Increasing the number and variety of trees on the street
elevations.
c) Addressing the landscape plan on the eastern boundary.
d) Submission of detailed landscape, irrigation, and exterior
lighting plans.
• 2. That samples of the roof tiles be submitted with a brown tone
preferred with tiles showing a variation in color.
3. That a site planshowing the entire concept of all phases be
submitted.
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CASE 3.582 (Cont'd. )
• 4. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be met.
CASE 3.576. Application by H. LACY for S. Overton for architectural approval
of single family residence on Milo Drive between Sanborn Way/Racquet
Club Road, R-1-B Zone, Section 3.
Planning Director stated that the proposed building is 24 feet high and
that there are no grounds for a variance or an AMM since it is not a
substandard lot in size and has no other conditions that would support
the added height.
M/S/C (Madsen/Harris; Kaptur absent) that the application be returned to
staff for submission of a proper application.
Commissioner Curtis left the meeting at this point.
CASE 3.551. Application by C. MILLS for E. Strebe for architectural approval
of revised plans for renovation of existing Village Theatre property on
• North Palm Canyon Drive, C-B-D Zone, Section 15.
Planning Director explained the project on the display board.
Discussion: Validity of the proposal . Commissioner stated that it
would be a temporary use and would place the City in an awkward position
regarding removal of tenants since it is in a redevelopment project
area. Consensus was that the design does not relate to any other
project in the downtown.
M/S/C (Harris/Lawrence; Curtis/Kaptur absent) for a restudy with a
request to the architect to present elevations of the entire frontage of
the building (including the MDX Drugstore) which shows continuity and
compatibility with the adjacent structures.
CASE 2.803-RECONSIDERATION. Request by A. GROVUE for reconsideration of
architectural approval for elevated sundeck at 1111 E. Alejo Road, R-G-
A(8) Zone (I .L. ), Section 14.
Planning Director stated that the application was removed from the
agenda since the applicant will lower the deck so that no elements are
visible.
•
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CASE 3.580. Application by KAPTUR & CIOFFI for S. Schwartz for architectural
• approval of tennis court on Southridge Drive, R-I-A Zone, Section 25.
M/S/C (Madsen/Koetting; Curtis/Kaptur absent) approving the application
subject to the following conditions:
1. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be met.
2. That a detailed landscape, irrigation and exterior lighting plan
be submitted.
3. That light green plastic-coated chain link fence be used.
4. That a chemical treatment be applied to the exposed concrete
surfaces to simulate the desert varnish.
TPM 18787. Application by R. GREGORY for Golden West Equity Properties for
architectural apparoval of preliminary landscape plan for subdivision of
land for industrial purposes on Ramon Road between Bogie Road/San Luis
Rey, M-1-P Zone, Section 17.
Planning Director stated that he would review San Luis Rey landscaping
up to the access road.
• M/S/C (Lawrence/Madsen; Curtis/Kaptur absent) approving the application
subject to the following conditions:
1. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be met.
2. That the landscape at the junction of Bogie Road/Ramon Road be
expanded to a minimum width of 25-feet with landscaping of the
strip to follow the theme of the rest of the project.
3. That the Ramon Road sidewalk/bikepath meander and not be adjacent
to the curb.
4. That detailed landscape, irrigation and exterior lighting plans be
submitted.
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Cont'd. )
CASE 5.0272-ZTA. Initiation by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS for an amendment to
the Zoning text establishing a land use permit process, City-wide, an
amendment to the C-B-D Zone, Section 15.
(Commission response to written comments on draft Negative Declaration
and final approval . No comments received. )
• Chairman declared the hearing open; there being no appearances, the
hearing was closed.
Planning Director stated that staff would recommend continuance to the
July 27 meeting for further staff review.
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TPM 18787 (Cont'd. )
M/S/C (Madsen/Koetting; Curtis/Kaptur absent) continuing the case to
July 27.
Tribal Council comments:
"This case was considered by the Tribal Council at its meetings of May
10 and May 24, 1983. As noted in Planning Commission Meeting Minutes of
May 25, 1983, this case was continued for further staff review and
revisions. An updated Staff Report has not been received at the Tribal
Council office.
After consideration of the recommendations of the Indian Planning
Commission, the Tribal Council reiterated its actions of May 24, 1983
which were as follows:
1. Generally endorsed the intent and purpose of the proposed Land Use
Permit Process, i .e. , to provide a means whereby the Planning
Director can review certain land uses that may have a minor
impact, and can condition those uses, subject to the right of
appeal , to insure that they are compatible with the community. It
would be expected that this process will result in considerable
savings in time and cost in those cases where a project having
minor impacts would otherwise be handled under the Conditional Use
Permit Process.
• 2. This endorsement is subject to the Tribal Council ' s further
consideration of the specific uses that will be covered by the
Land Use Permit in all Zoning Districts affecting Indian-trust
lands.
3. Withheld comment on the proposed amendments to the C-B-D Zone
since the Zone applies only to Section 15 and does not materially
affect Indian-trust lands."
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Cont'd. )
M/S/C (Koetting/Madsen; Curtis/Kaptur absent) approving time extensionsfor the
following:
TTM 16640 (Ref. Case 3.337)-SECOND TIME EXT. Request by KWL ASSOC. INC. for
D. Johnson for a second 12-month time extension of map to allow
construction of 10 dwelling units on Ramon Road between Warm Sands
Drive/Grenfall Road, R-2 Zone, Section 23.
Approved subject to original conditions and the condition (school impact
mitigation fees) added to the first extension. New expiration date:
6/3/84.
•
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MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Cont'd. )
TTM 14899 (Ref. Case 5.0170-PD-126)-SECOND TIME EXT. Request by KWL ASSOC.
INC. for Friedman Ventures for a second 12-month time extension of map
for commercial office/warehouse on the northeast corner of Bogie
Road/Mesquite Avenue, M-1 Zone ( I .L. ) , Section 20.
Approved subject to original conditions and the condition placed on the
first time extension. New expiration date: 7/1/84.
Tribal Council comments:
"After consideration of the recommendations of the Indian Planning
Commission, the Tribal Council approved the request for a second 12-
month time extension for TTM 14899 with the understanding that no new
conditions of approval are being added."
TTM 17293 (Ref. Case 3.386)-SECOND TIME EXT. Request by KWL ASSOC. INC. for
Vaco Developers, Inc. for 12-month time extension for map to allow
construction of 66-unit condominium complex on San Rafael between
Virginia Road/Indian Avenue, R-2 Zone, Section 3.
Approved subject to original conditions. New expiration date: 6/3/84.
Commissioner Koetting left the meeting at this point.
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Cont'd. )
CASE 5.0033-CUP. Application by C. G. DUNHAM for architectural approval of
revised site plan and revised elevations for condominium complex on
Mesquite Avenue between Cerritos Road/Sunrise Way, R-1-C and W-R-1-C
Zones (I.L. ) , Section 24. (Ref. TTM 11559)
Planner II stated that the concept has changed dramatically from the
original submission and that the graphic style is difficult to decipher,
but that all elevations had been submitted.
Commission consensus was that the architect should submit a complete
presentation with more detail since the project is very different from
what was originally approved.
M/S/C (Madsen/Lawrence; Curtis/Koetting/Kaptur absent) continuing the
application to July 13 for submittal of a complete presentation by the
architect.
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ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA
CASE 3.573. BENEFICIAL STANDARD PROPERTIES for architectural approval of
revised remodeling plans and new supermarket for Palm Springs Mall on
Tahquitz-McCallum Way between Farrell Drive/Baristo Road, C-S-C Zone,
Section 13.
Removed for submittal of complete presentation (including landscaping)
for all sides of the project.
CASE 3.473. W. THOMPSON for Desert Assoc. for architectural approval of
revised working drawings for residential condominium project bordered by
El Segundo, Andreas, Calle Alvarado, Amado Roads, R-4 Zone (I.L. ) ,
Section 14.
Removed for staff review of working drawings.
CONTINUED ITEMS
CASE 5.0233-PD-141. NAUGLE'S RESTAURANT for architectural approval of
umbrellas and tables for restaurant in shopping center on the southeast
corner of Racquet Club Road/North Palm Canyon Drive, PD-113, Section 3.
Continued at applicant's request to July 13 meeting.
COMMISSION REPORTS, REQUESTS AND DISCUSSION
Discussion of AAC appointments. Chairman stated that Michael Buccino,
landscape architect, will replace D. Hamilton and directed staff to
prepare resolutions commending Mr. Hamilton and L. Lapham, Chairman, who
are retiring from the Committee. Discussion followed on prospective
appointees. Staff was directed to confer with City Attorney regarding
appointment of a replacement for Mr. Lapham.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Chairman adjourned the
meeting at 7:00 p.m.
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