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Council Chamber, City Hall
. February 9, 1983
1 :30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1982 - 1983
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to date
Richard Service, Chairman X 13 1
Hugh Curtis X 14 0
Darel Harris X 12 2
Hugh Kaptur X 13 1
Peter Koetting X 13 1
Don Lawrence X 12 2
Paul Madsen X 12 2
Staff Present
Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director
Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney
Diana Ericksen, Community Development Coordinator
Dave Forcucci , Zoning Enforcement Officer II
Doug Evans, Planner III
Robert Green, Planner II
Stephen Graham, Planner III
Tony Cucuzzella, Building Inspector Supervisor
. Mary Isenberg, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee Present - February 7, 1983
Larry Lapham, Chairman
James Cioffi
Chris Mills
David Hamilton
William Johnson, Alternate
Earl Neel
Peter Koetting
Absent: Hugh Curtis
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
Minutes of the January 26 meeting were approved as submitted.
Minutes of the January 12 meeting were amended as follows:
Page 17, Case 5.0255-MISC. , first paragraph, change date of March 1 to
• "March 2,"(M/S/C Harris, Koetting; Curtis absent)
February 9, 1983 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 2
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
CASE 5.0256-GPA. Initiation by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS for an amendment to
the General Plan Street Plan to eliminate Rose Avenue as a collector
street northerly of Stevens Road, Section 10.
(Commission response to written comments on draft Negative Declaration,
action for filing and final approval . Comments received from Desert
Water Agency.)
Recommendation: That the Planning Commission order the filing of a
Negative Declaration and approve Case 5.0256-GPA per staff
recommendations.
Planning Director stated that one comment had been received from the
Desert Water Agency regarding maintenance of easements and access to the
area; but that the needs of utilities are considered in these types of
cases; and access will not be denied.
Chairman declared the hearing open; there being no appearances, the
hearing was closed.
Chairman explained to the audience that the "collector" street
designation is the smallest street shown on the General Plan.
• M/S/C (Harris, Koetting; Curtis absent) ordering the filing of a
Negative Declaration and approving Case 5.0256-GPA per staff
recommendations.
Tribal Council comments :
"While this proposed General Plan Amendment does not materially affect
Indial Lands, it has been the policy of the Tribal Council to consider
and comment on all General Plan Amendments .
This Case was considered by the Tribal Council on January 25, 1983.
After consideration of the recommendations of the Indian Planning
Commission the Tribal Council approved the filing of 2 Negative
Declarations and reiterated its action of January 25 to approve this
proposed amendment to the City' s General Plan Street Plan that would
delete Rose Avenue, Northerly of Stevens Road, as a Collector Street."
Commissioner Curtis entered the meeting at this point.
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February 9, 1983 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 3
. CASE 5.0222-PD-137 (Revised to 5 .0257-CUP) & TTM 14740 (Revised). Application
by C. MILLS for W. Coble for a revised PD in-lieu of a change of zone
for construction of a 44-unit residential condominium project on Escoba
Drive between an existing radio tower/Los Compadres Stables, R-1-C Zone
(I .L. ) , Section 30.
(Environmental assessment previously given in conjunction with original
review of PD-137. )
Recommendation: That the Planning Commission approve Case 5.0257-CUP
(formerly CASE 5.0222-PD-137) and TTM 14740 (Revised) subject to
conditions.
Planning Director explained that the project has been revised to meet
requirements for a CUP.
Planner III stated that the project is considered to have previously
been assessed with no comments received although staff had discussed it
with several property owners in the area who are attending the meeting.
Planning Director stated that in discussions with the Assistant City
Attorney, several revisions of the Development Committee conditions were
made and a condition added to underground adjacent utilities.
Planner III explained that the construction of phases will be
• concurrent.
Planning Director stated that since the project has been revised to a
CUP, the Planning Commission has the final approval , not the City
Council as required for a planned development district application.
Discussion followed relative to architectural details, landscaping, and
phasing. Planner III explained that additional architectural fees would
be collected for Phase II which would be considered as another project
(with no additional fees beyond that point) .
Chairman declared the hearing open.
H. Hampton, 1913 E. Amado Road, developer, stated that Phase I and Phase
II terminology is misleading; that the phasing request was made so that
the common amenities are constructed at Phase I but not the single
family residences around the perimeter; that the walls, landscaping,
residences and amenities will blend with the area although the square
footage is not as large as could have been constructed in the past; that
the proposed price range will be $85,000 to $95,000 for the duplexes and
$110,000 to $125,000 for the single family residences; that the average
lot size is 7,500 sq. ft. ; that the units being detached have not been
determined although they will probably be on the corner lots, and
reiterated that the project will essentially be constructed in one phase
with one homeowner's association, and if any different elevations other
than those approved by the AAC are proposed by a buyer, the proposal
would be brought to the AAC and Planning Commission.
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• CASE 5.0257-CUP (Cont' d.)
C. Mills, 278 "C" N. Palm Canyon Drive, the architect, requested
deletion of sewer and easement requirements on El Cielo Road and stated
that deletion had been requested four years ago; that the orientation of
the duplex units makes them appear to be single family residences; that
the zero setback for the units in which two garages abut, is to allow
for a common driveway for more street frontage; described the
configuration of a single family residence; and stated that he was
present to answer questions.
Mrs. S. Millard, 3508 Escoba Drive, stated that she did not have enough
information on the project to form an opinion since that all that was
being shown was lots. She questioned the marketing and phasing program,
the type of housing to be constructed on the perimeter, and the price
range of the homes.
Chairman stated that the Commission has no control over the price range
of a development. Mrs. Millard stated that she was concerned about the
integrity of the family-oriented neighborhood and when questioned by
Commission, stated that she would prefer single family residences with
driveways across from her home but that if a six foot wall were
constructed the project would not be a problem to her.
G. Olsen , 3576 Escoba Drive, stated that he did not object to the
• project, but felt that a mixture of housing types would be a mistake;
and that the project should conform to neighborhood standards .
D. Harris, 3552 E1 Gaucho Circle, questioned the location of the
entrance and stated that he felt it should be located adjacent to Los
Compadres Stables; that the problem of the driveway should have been
resolved previously because of neighborhood opposition to its location;
that it appears that there are houses backing to Escoba Drive which is
not aesthetically pleasing; that if the entrance were located off El
Cielo Road, there would be no construction vehicles blocking Escoba
Drive; that the entry should be redesigned; and that the proposal is not
compatible with the neighborhood because of the size of the units, not
the price.
Planning Director explained that the present location of the driveway is
the best because of less traffic impaction.
Discussion ensued on the concept of a private driveway as opposed to
individual driveways. Mr. Harris stated that no redesign of the
driveway is necessary, only relocation of the entry.
Discussion continued on the orientation of the houses. Mr. Harris
stated that the homes in the neighborhood have approximately 2,000 sq.
ft. of living space.
Mrs. R. Sheehan, 3554 Escoba Drive, questioned the setbacks. Chairman
stated that the setback to the wall changes from 20 ft. to 30 ft.
because of the meandering design of the wall . Mrs. Sheehan stated that
the neighbors were not getting a true picture of the project.
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• CASE 5.0257-CUP (Cont' d. )
A. Hersh, 3577 Escoba Drive, stated his concerns with the drainage on
Escoba since water from storms and irrigation flow toward the
residences.
H. Hampton, the applicant (rebuttal ) stated that the project will help
alleviate the water problem since the water will flow down the project
side of the street; that the entry had been discussed with the City
Engineer and the location across from the church is the most viable;
that the configuration of the property determines the orientation of the
houses which will not be seen because they will be behind a wall and
landscaping; and noted that the application was incomplete because the
homes have not yet been designed but they will be similar to the
duplexes in the center portion and will range from 14,000 sq. ft. to
16,000 sq. ft.
There being no further appearances, the hearing was closed.
Commissioner Kaptur stated that he felt that the project was well
designed but that the mixing of sizes of homes in the project with the
size of homes in the neighborhood and also the "0" setback were not
compatible with the area.
Planning Director stated that the minimum residence size was 1,100 sq.
ft. , not including the garage as required by the Zoning Ordinance.
• Chairman stated that the project meets all zoning requirements; that the
common driveway is viable; that Escoba Drive is a boulevard with a
scenic parkway environment; that the project is not detrimental to the
neighborhood; that the Assessor' s office does not lower property values
because of the proximity of a condominium project to single family
residences; that the project is of benefit to the neighborhood; and also
hoped that the developer would be aware of the neighbors' concerns.
Planning Director stated that "General " conditions 1. and 2. of the
Development Committee recommendations should remain until the Master
Plan of Sewers is amended.
Chairman stated that Phase II should be an extension of the CUP process
so the neighbors are aware of the Phase II architectural plans.
Discussion followed on the concept of a mix of homes relative to
property values, the concept of smaller sizes of homes in the future,
and standards in abutting zones.
Commissioner Kaptur stated that the applicant is really requesting a
variance, and that there will be a mixture of incompatible types of
people. Commissioner Madsen stated that the people buying the homes
will be single families like the people living across the street, and
that the project is basically an architectural approval type of
application and meets ordinance requirements with added conditions of
approval .
February 9, 1983 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 6
• CASE 5.0257-CUP (Cont' d. )
Discussion followed on the concept of noticing of property owners of the
Phase II application. Assistant City Attorney stated that a CUP is
subject to supplementation but that architectural approval is limited
and that if there is a possibility that the application would be
returning to the Commission or conditions added, the CUP could be
amended or supplemented. Planning Director stated that the Assistant
City Attorney and he may have a difference of opinion on the mechanics
of the application. He stated that if a CUP were left open, it could be
conditioned or denied possible with inconsistent results; but if the
intent of the Commission were to review the architectural elements, a
public hearing could be held to review the architecture and for public
input, and would be considered a supplement, not an amendment to the
CUP.
M/S/C (Koetting/Madsen; Kaptur dissented; Curtis/Harris abstained)
approving CUP 5.0257 and TTM 14740 (revised) with the following findings
and subject to the following conditions:
FINDINGS:
1. That the cluster residential development at the location set
forth in the application is properly one for which a
Conditional Use Permit is authorized by Section 9206.01 .C.5
of the Zoning Ordinance.
• 2. That the cluster residential development is desirable for
the development of the community, is in harmony with the
elements and objectives of the General Plan, and is
compatible in building height, density and general
architectural character to existing uses and to uses
specifically permitted in the zoning in which the proposed
project is located.
3. That the 10.17 acre site is adequate in size and
configuration to accommodate the proposed cluster
residential use and meets or exceeds all yard, setback,
landscaping and other features in order to adjust this use
to existing and/or future uses on lands in the neighborhood.
4. That the project site, being located on Escoba Drive (a
local street) is designed and will be improved to carry type
and quantity of traffic to be generated by the proposed use.
CONDITIONS:
1. That Architectural Advisory Committee conditions be
implemented.
2. That final landscape, irrigation, and exterior lighting
plans be submitted within one year of City Council approval
of the conditional use permit. A tree program for the east,
west and south property lines shall be incorporated into the
final landscape plans.
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• CASE 5.0257-CUP (Cont' d.)
3. That project C.C. & R. ' s shall contain provisions for
private yard landscape installation and maintenance thereof.
4. That Phase II development plans be submitted within one year
of Planning Commission approval . These plans shall be submitted
under a major architectural approval application with
applicable fees.
5 . That all recommendations of the Development Committee be met
with staff to review Engineering conditions relative to the
Master Plan of Sewers and the sewer easement. (Conditions 1
and 2, "General " . )
6. That "Onsite" condition #6 be deleted (private sewer) .
7. That "General" condition #9 be deleted.
8. That architectural plans for Phase II be submitted for AAC
and Planning Commission review as a supplement to the CUP
and noticed for public hearing.
9. That all adjacent utility lines be undergrounded per the
requirements of the Subdivision Ordinance.
• Tribal Council comments:
"In reviewing Planning Commission staff report dated February 9, 1983,
it was noted that this proposed cluster residential development meets
all requirements of the Zoning Ordinance (Section 9206.0I.C.5) ,
including the allowable density of 44-units. It was also noted that
provision is being made (CC&R' s) for long-term maintenance of the large
amount of open-space which comprises some 65% of the total site.
After consideration of the recommendations of the Indian Planning
Commission, the Tribal Council took the following actions:
1. Approved the conditional Use Permit for this proposed
cluster residential development based on the findings set forth in
Staff Report, and subject to the conditions outlined therein with
the exception that action on the condition requiring payment of
drainage fees was withheld pending receipt and review of the
benefit-cost analysis to be prepared by City Staff.
2. Concurred with Staff determination that no additional action
is required relative to the environmental assessment.
3. Recommended that buyers be made aware of all adjacent land
uses, including the equestrian facilities, flood control channel ,
and church activities ."
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February 9, 1983 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 8
CASE 6.333-VARIANCE. Application by V. MURPHY for a variance in side yard
setback requirements at 803 Monte vista, R-1-C Zone, Section 10.
(This action is categorically exempt from environmental assessment per
CEQA guidelines.)
Recommendation: That the Planning Commission deny the variance
application.
Planner II stated that the applicant has made several findings which are
not grounds for a variance in staff' s opinion. He then described the
project on the display board and stated that a permit was issued to
construct the garage wall subject to submittal of a variance application
to determine the legality of the structure; that the work on the garage
was done without inspections or without a variance application; that a
Building Inspector discovered the situation after construction had
begun; and that the slab (Structure B) is for a single story addition
and built by the present resident.
Planning Director stated that flat work does not require a building
permit although construction over 30 inches does.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
V. Murphy, 803 Via Monte Vista, the applicant, explained his stance on
• the legality of the construction to date. He stated that to demolish
the structure (Structure A) would cost $80,000 since his home is
attached to it; that the person complaining about the structure is no
longer in the neighborhood and the structure hurts no one; that many
houses in Las Palmas are close to the property line; that he did not
build the addition, and was not asking for a variance; that structure B
was proposed for a pool table or exercise room; and that he had owned
the home for 12 years.
Discussion followed with Mr. Murphy to determine chronology of
construction, and Mr. Murphy's awareness of that chronology. Mr. Murphy
stated that he had not obtained a permit for Structure A on the north
side of the house because he had not built it. Chairman stated that the
contract City Attorney finds that any illegal work is inherited by the
purchaser of a property and that it had been four years since Mr. Murphy
was notified of the illegal structure.
Mr. Murphy submitted photographs of the structure and the view.
Mrs. J. Dyer, 635 Leisure Way, stated that she was interested in what
was going to face her property on Leisure Way and did not understand for
what the variance request was made.
There being no further appearances , the hearing was closed.
Building Inspector Supervisor stated that no review of the structure in
the field had been made because no one was permitted inside the
building; and that to his knowledge no plans have been received for
Structure B.
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CASE 6.333-VARIANCE (Cont'd. )
Planning Director stated that the applicant was required to apply for a
variance because of Building Division and City Attorney recommendations
and if the variance were granted, it would continue to allow the
structure on the property, but that Mr. Murphy has protested the
requirement from the beginning.
Commissioner Lawrence stated that he would recommend continuance for the
inspector to inspect the building with a report to the Commission since
the building will be costly to modify; and that there are some homes in
the area which have no setbacks.
M/S Lawrence/Koetting, to continue the application for review and
inspection by staff with the applicant.
The vote was as follows:
AYES: Koetting, Lawrence
NOES: Curtis, Harris, Kaptur, Madsen, Service
ABSENT: None
The motion was defeated.
NOTE: Planning Director explained, after the motion, that violations of
• setbacks in Las Palmas seem to be divided between the old and new
sections since portions built before 1938 conformed to the County
ordinance which had no setback requirements.
Commissioner Lawrence stated that an inspection should be made to
determine the type of use for which Structure A would be used and
rapport established with the applicant so if the variance were denied,
the applicant would understand the reasons.
Further discussion followed on the background of the variance. Building
Inspector Supervisor explained that apparently a permit was issued for
repair of the south wall of the garage due to water damage and that
Structure A is a wing wall built across the front of the residence which
was subsequently roofed without permits. He stated that it is not a
garage, but a storage area with no light or ventilation; and that a
permit could not be issued for it.
Chairman stated that more investigation might not help the legality of
granting a variance.
Planning Director stated that a 20 foot side front yard setback is
required.
M/S/C (Harris/Kaptur; Lawrence dissented) denying Variance 6.333 based
on the following findings:
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CASE 6.333-VARIANCE (Cont'd. )
1 . That no special circumstances apply to the subject property
(including size, shape, topography, location, or
surroundings) which would dictate that the strict
application of the Zoning Ordinance would deprive the
subject property of privileges enjoyed by other properties
in the vicinity and under identical classification.
Alternative areas of the site are available for construction
of extensions to the dwelling and garage without encroaching
into required yards.
2. That conditions could be placed on the variance application
that would assure that the adjustment thereby authorized
would not constitute a grant of special privilege
inconsistent with the limitations upon other properties in
the vicinity and zone in which the subject property is
situated.
3. The granting of the variance will not be materially
detrimental to the public health, safety, convenience, or
welfare, or injurious to property and improvements in the
same vicinity and zone.
• 4. The granting of the variance would not adversely affect the
General Plan of the City.
5. There is no approved application for the garage to the north
of the property.
6. Ordinances in the City have never allowed a side yard of
less than five feet in this area.
7. The existing garage could be demolished without rendering
the existing house structurally unsafe.
8. The existing garage could be modified to render it
structurally sound per the Uniform Building Code.
9. One complaint has been received by the City regarding the
proximity of the garage to the northern property line.
NOTE: After action for denial was taken, Commissioner Lawrence stated
that he voted against the motion because he was in opposition to what
was being done on the site and felt that the two-week delay for
inspection would have been valuable.
Chairman informed the applicant that he could appeal the Commission
decision.
February 9, 1983 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 11
PUBLIC COMMENTS
R. Wiley, applicant in Cases 3.505 & 3.553 requested time to address the
Commission when the items were heard on the agenda.
TENTATIVE TRACT AND PARCEL MAPS
Planning Director reviewed and explained the maps and the Planning
Commission discussed and took action on the following parcel map based
on the finding that the proposed subdivision, together with the
provisions for design and improvement, are consistent with the General
Plan of the City of Palm Springs. A Negative Declaration has been
ordered filed based on the finding that the project will not have a
significant adverse effect on the environment and subject to conditions
as outlined.
TPM 18787. Application by MAINIERO, SMITH & ASSOC. for Golden West Equity
Properties for a subdivision of land for industrial purposes on Ramon
Road between Bogie Road/San Luis Rey, M-1-P Zone, Section 17.
(Environmental assessment previously given in conjunction with the CZ
5.0160-CZ.)
0 Planning Director explained that response had been received by letter
(on file in the Department of Community Development) from the City of
Cathedral City relative to a property line in Cathedral City which is
needed for access to San Luis Rey; that Cathedral City is requesting the
following:
1. That the City of Palm Springs maintain the proposed 6-phase
traffic signal at San Luis Rey/Ramon Road.
2. That along the west side of San Luis Rey, a minimum 25 ft. wide
landscape strip be provided with turf and shade trees and other
appropriate materials and with a six foot block wall .
He stated that staff, in reviewing the request, will discuss the traffic
signal with the Traffic Engineer; that there is a five foot landscape
strip along San Luis Rey which will be maintained by the Developer; that
a six foot block wall exceeds Palm Springs requirements; that the
developer is concerned about redesigning the 40 foot access roads to 50
foot industrial street standards which will be addressed by the Traffic
Engineer; that the developer' s concerns are mostly landscaping,
signalization and access to San Luis Rey; and that staff would recommend
approval subject to Development Committee and Cathedral City conditions .
Traffic Engineer stated that there is a problem with on-street parking
with a 40 foot street and that 50 feet would give adequate width; that
it was critical that there be access to San Luis Rey; and then described
future traffic problems on San Luis Rey stating that future planning
dictates a secondary access to San Luis Rey.
February 9, 1983 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 12
• TPM 18787 (Cont' d.)
Discussion followed on Ramon Road as a secondary access, traffic hazards
on Ramon Road, and traffic routes leaving and entering the project.
B. McDonald, 1949 State College, Anaheim, the applicant, complimented
staff of both cities for expediting the access matter and stated that he
was not involved in the maintenance of the traffic signal , that a six
foot wall is not needed; that he had submitted an appeal to the Council
regarding conditions recommended for the project; and that he opposed
widening the 40 foot street since 40 feet can accommodate parking on
both sides and no large trucks will use the street.
Planning Director stated that a "no parking" provision would have to be
enforced if the 40 foot street width were allowed.
Commissioner Curtis requested a dense landscape buffer between the
property line and the buildings to obscure discontinuity of the
buildings. Planning Director explained that a 25 foot landscape buffer
is required and includes the private streets.
Commissioner Kaptur stated that there had been a preliminary site plan
with preliminary landscaping that was recommended for restudy but showed
basics of the Bogie Road and Ramon Road frontages. Planning Director
stated that the map would be conditioned to submit a landscape plan for
the common areas and described the total 33 foot wide landscape setback
• configuration; that AAC recommendations Nos. 1 & 4 had been deleted and
that there is a bikepath on both sides of Ramon Road on the Master Plan
of Bikeways.
M/S/C (Madsen/Harris; Curtis dissented) approving TPM 18787 subject to
staff and Development Committee conditions with the deletion of AAC
recommendations 1 & 4.
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
DETERMINATION 10.328. Request by staff for a Planning Commission determi-
nation that an outdoor bar in conjunction with a full service restaurant
or resort hotel is an acceptable accessory use to outdoor dining.
Planning Director stated that the determination had originated from the
City Council , a Planning Commission question, and a letter from an
applicant to the Alcoholic Beverage Control Board, asking if such a
facility were acceptable with the City; that the ordinance allows
outdoor dining in commercial zones; that outdoor bars have been
questioned as an acceptable outdoor use; that the Planning Commission
can define accessory uses and similar uses in various zones; that staff
finds that full-service restaurants and resort hotels would be a proper
control ; that the Chief of Police has no problems with the concept
• unless police problems arise; that the AAC has no problems; that
the Health Department has sanitary problems with insects in outdoor
areas; that the Police Chief wants some control so if problems arise,
additional conditions can be placed; that the proposed land use permit
would do this; that staff finds that an outdoor bar is not an acceptable
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• DETERMINATION 10.328 (Cont' d.)
main use but is allowable as part of a major main use such as a resort
hotel ; and that an "outdoor" area is anything not within an enclosed
building.
Discussion followed on the parameters and restrictions of an outdoor
dining facility. Consensus was that an oudoor bar should not be
accessible or visible from the street.
M/S/C (Koetting/Harris) determining that an outdoor bar which is not
accessible nor visible from the street in conjunction with a resort
hotel or full-service restaurant with an internal courtyard is an
appropriate accessory use where outdoor dining is allowed.
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS
The Planning Commission reviewed plans, discussed, and took action on
the following items involving architectural approval subject to the
conditions as outlined.
CASE 3.265. Application by CHRISTIAN & ASSOCIATES for P.S. Airpark for archi-
tectural approval of revised site plan and elevations for a light
industrial park adjacent to the airport, east of Farrell Drive, M-1-P
Zone, Section 12.
Planner II stated that the mechanical equipment will be screened as a
condition of approval .
In response to a memo from the Transportation Director, Planning
Director stated that water flow problems can be mitigated by designing
mitigation measures into the project although sheet flow will be
intensified with no appropriate solution.
In reply to Chairman' s questions, Planner II stated that the City
Engineer has been informed about the problems of water flowing into the
airport and that the applicant has stated that any nuisance and ten-year
storm water will be retained on-site.
M/S/C (Curtis/Lawrence) approving Case 3.265 subject to the following
conditions:
1 . That all recommendations of the Development Committee be met
including the previous environmental review in conjunction with
this application.
2. That wood or other such material be used for the soffits.
3. That detailed landscape, irrigation, and exterior lighting plans
be submitted.
February 9, 1983 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 14
• CASE 3.505. Application by DESIGN HAUS ARCHITECTURAL ASSOC. for Palm Canyon
Associates for architectural approval of working drawings for
residential condominium development on the northwest corner of E. Palm
Canyon Drive/Cherokee Way, R-G-A (8) Zone (I .L.) , Section 30.
In response to question by Chairman, R. Wiley, architect, stated that
the french doors and windows were bronze-finished aluminum with a grid
fastened over them.
Chairman stated that the renderings show paned windows.
In response to questions by Planner II , Mr. Wiley stated that the
columns will be square instead of round; and the round decorative
details will remain; and that sliding glass doors will be used instead
of french doors because of the cost and cost of maintenance.
Discussion followed on integrity of the project as detailed in the
working drawings. Consensus was that the project had lost character.
Mr. Wiley disagreed with the consensus and stated that integrity has
remained; that the client approves the design; that the sales brochures
reflect the continuity and integrity of the architect and the developer;
that the project will be a contribution to the community; that the
aluminum grid windows look similar to French windows and obtains a
feeling of individual panes with more ease in cleaning; and that on some
parts of the working drawings, the window grids are indicated.
Commissioner Kaptur stated that the grids are contemporary more than
Spanish in style; that after window cleaning, the grids will not be
replaced and continuity will be lost; and that the grids do not look
like wood mullioned windows.
Discussion followed on the front and rear elevations of Plan No. 4.
Chairman stated that although he liked the project, he would not vote
for it if aluminum casement windows were substituted for the wood
mullioned windows; that the integrity of the project had not been
preserved in the working drawings; and that the Commission wants to
review working drawings at times because of details being omitted.
Commissioner Kaptur stated that the design concept originally approved
was what the Commission wanted.
Mr. Wiley stated that he intended to retain the concept. Further
discussion followed on the concept.
Commissioner Harris stated that he liked the fresh look of the project.
Discussion continued on the mechanical details on the exterior of the
buildings . Mr. Wiley stated that these details had been anticipated and
designed into the architecture. Discussion continued on the building
details.
M/S/C (Harris/Lawrence; Kaptur dissented) approving Case 3.505 working
drawings subject to the following conditions:
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• CASE 3.505 (Cont' d. )
1. That window grids be retained as shown on the original plans with
materials left to the developer.
2. That the decorative railing be retained as shown on the originally
approved elevations.
3. That columns be retained at the larger size shown on the
originally approved elevations.
4. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be met.
5. That rafters be retained as shown on the orginally approved
elevations.
6. That the garage doors retain the elements of design shown in the
originally approved elevations, i .e. , divided squares but
eliminating the glazing elements.
CASE 3.553. Application by DESIGN HAUS ARCHITECTURAL ASSOC. for architectural
approval of 184 condominium units on Avenida Caballeros between
Saturnino Road/Arenas Road, R-4 Zone (I .L. ) , Section 14.
(Commission response to written comments on draft Negative Declaration,
action for filing & final approval . )
R. Wiley, the architect described the roof materials and stated that the
concept was affordable housing close to downtown with a varied treatment
on Avenida Caballeros because of the project's length on that street;
that the project was deficient 16 parking spaces, but that the AAC felt
that parking could be reduced further to provide more open space on the
site; that the applicant is requesting a 10% reduction in parking; and
that compact parking provided will meet requirements.
Discussion followed on the request for reducing parking on site.
Planning Director stated that eventually Avenida Caballeros will be red-
curbed when the entire street is completed. Commissioners expressed
concern that the residents closest to Avenida Caballeros will park on
that street.
Commissioner Koetting suggested that if the project is approved, a
perimeter wall be designed for the file in case the homeowners
association requests a security wall in the future.
Discussion continued on reorientation of the project. Planning Director
stated that there was no room to reorient the buildings in question,
that the reduction proposed could be approved through an AMM, and that
the applicant is achieving R-4 density on the site with a two-story
design.
Further discussion ensued relative to the entry gate and the amenities
of the project.
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• CASE 3.553 (Cont' d. )
Planning Director explained that a 10% reduction in parking is
discretionary with staff but is used mostly in unusual circumstances.
He stated that staff would prefer the project meet code by eliminating
units since additional parking would be placed in already constricted
areas and that the present configuration shows a space and a half of
parking per unit.
Commissioner Koetting stated that perhaps parking on the project should
be reviewed in a study session since parking might be superfluous with
non-auto users and single car owners.
Discussion followed on roof materials. Commissioner Kaptur stated that
there was too large an expanse of asphalt shingles. Mr. Wiley stated
that texture would be provided by the tapering and orientation of the
building. Commissioner Koetting stated that the AAC requested that a
substantial amount of roofing materials be provided to the AAC for
review.
Further discussion followed on parking and the orientation of the two
rear units which Commissioner Koetting found constricted.
Discussion followed on the amount of parking reduction requested by the
applicant and continued on the setback requirement.
• M/S (Curtis/Harris; Madsen abstained) to approve the project subject to
conditions of the AAC and for AAC review of the roofing material with a
six foot reduction in parking through an AMM. The vote was as follows:
AYES: Curtis, Harris , Service
NOES: Kaptur, Koetting, Lawrence
ABSENTION: Madsen
ABSENT: None
There was a tie vote. (No action taken. )
Motion was made by Harris to approve the application subject to a 10%
parking reduction. The motion died for lack of a second.
M/S/C (Kaptur/Koetting; Harris dissented; Madsen abstained) for
continuance for the applicant to address Planning Commission concerns to
be reviewed by the AAC. (Concerns were refinement of the site plan and
elevations. )
Discussion followed on Planning Commission concerns regarding parking
reduction and the location of the reduction on site.
Tribal Council comments :
"This Case was considered by the Tribal Council at its meetings of
January 11 and January 25, 1983. Although it is the general policy of
the Tribal council to abstain from acting on cases involving only
architectural approval , it was noted that this case constitutes a major
development in Section 14 which is an area of the City of particular
concern to the Tribal Council .
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• CASE 3.553 (Cont' d. )
After consideration of the recommendations of the Indian Planning
Commission, the Tribal Council took the following actions :
1. Reiterated its action of January 25 to:
a. Approve the filing of a Negative Declaration with the
mitigation measures contained in Environmental Assessment/Initial
Study dated January 12, 1983.
b. Approve the conditions recommended in Development Committee
Meeting Minutes dated December 16, 1982 with the exception that
action on the condition requiring payment of drainage fees was
withheld pending receipt and review of the benefit-cost analysis
to be prepared by City Staff.
2. Made no comments and/or recommendations on the architectural
features of the project except to note that revisions to the site
Plan and landscape plan, modifications to elevations and
architectural details, etc. were submitted by the applicant and
approved by the Architectural Advisory Committee on February 7,
1983."
• ADDED STARTERS - ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL
SIGN APPLICATION. Application by J. CIOFFI for architectural approval of
identification sign for restaurant at 292 E. Palm Canyon Drive, C-1
Zone, Section 23. (Ref. Case 3.561)
Zoning Enforcement Officer stated that the sign is exposed neon.
In response to a question by Commissioner Harris, Mr. Cioffi , the
architect, stated that the sign is designed to trail around the corner
as a unifying element since the building has two exposures.
M/S/C (Koetting/Madsen; Harris dissented; Kaptur abstained) approving
the sign application as submitted.
NOTE: The AAC commended the design of the sign.
INFORMAL ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW ITEM
CASE 3.559. Application by EISNER-SMITH for Palm Canyon Associates for archi-
tectural approval of revised site plan elevations for a 270-room hotel
on E. Palm Canyon Drive between Cherokee Way/Southridge Drive, C-2 Zone
(I .L. ) , Section 30.
Planning Director stated that the project had been reviewed informally
by the AAC on February 7 , and the applicant requested direction on the
revisions.
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• CASE 3.559 (Cont'd.)
R. Smith, the applicant, stated that after the study session in January
with direction by the AAC to retain the frontage road, the applicant
felt that the frontage road plan as submitted was not acceptable, and
that several Commission concerns were addressed by a meandering frontage
road and a site plan redesign.
Commissioner Koetting stated that the AAC had given input to the
applicant regarding revisions to the elevations, and that the frontage
road problem has been resolved.
Consensus was that the site plan had been improved addressing Commission
concerns.
M/S/C (Lawrence/Harris) approving the frontage road concept plan as
submitted in the third revision.
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS (Cont'd.)
TTM 12049. Request by J. WHITE for phasing plan to construct models for 30-
unit condominium project on the northeast corner of E1 Cielo/Sonora
Roads, R-1-C and W-R-1-C Zones, Section 19. (Ref. Case 5.0053-CUP)
• Planning Director recommended that the phasing plan be approved
including model construction and street improvements on E1 Cielo Road
and Sunrise Way with a temporary turnaround on the cul-de-sac.
Discussion following on the proposed phasing concept.
M/S/C (Madsen/Lawrence) approving a phasing plan for TTM 12049 subject
to original conditions of approval and the recommendations of the
Development Committee for the phasing plan including construction of
full off site improvements along Sonora Road and E1 Cielo Road with the
construction of the models.
WIND ENERGY PROJECTS. Request by STAFF for Planning Commission review of
wind energy projects located outside City limits currently being
processed by Riverside County.
Planner III gave a brief overview and stated as follows:
No. 446 - In the sphere of influence and being processed for a public
use permit.
No. 443 - Located on Whitewater Hill with turbines proposed on the north
side of the hill .
No. 447 - Located on Dillon Road south of the current Edison turbines.
No. 443 & 447 - Hearings will probably be continued because the
applicant is not complying with requested exhibits.
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• WIND ENERGY PROJECTS (Cont' d. )
Planner III stated that the law suit with the County has been settled.
He described the information received in the packet distributed to the
Commission and explained the materials showing the County and City
proposals and the compromise reached. He stated that supplemental
information will be distributed before the February 16 study session and
requested Commission input on the amount of material to be reviewed at
the study session; and that although the turbines are visible, the
projects are acceptable in relation to the settlement and much of the mi-
tigation will rely on code enforcement.
Chairman stated that the Commission will review the material submitted
by staff for discussion at the February 16 study session. The item was
continued for review at the study session.
CONSENT AGENDA
The following items are routine in nature and have been reviewed by the
Planning Commission, AAC, and staff. No further review is required, and
all items are approved by one blanket motion upon unanimous consent.
M/S/C (Curtis/Madsen) approving the following applications subject to
• all conditions of staff, Development Committee and the AAC as follows
and ordering the filing of a Negative Declaration as indicated:
CASE 5.0063-CUP. S. KASSOVIC for the Riviera Tennis Club for architectural
approval of revised roof material for tennis club on the east side of N.
Indian Avenue between Via Escuela/Vista Chino, R-3 Zone, Section 2.
Approved as submitted.
SIGN APPLICATION. IMPERIAL SIGN CO. for P.S. Ltd. for architectural approval
of main sign for business (former Ford agency) on E. Palm Canyon Drive,
west of Cherokee Way, C-2 Zone (I .L.) , Section 30.
Approved as submitted.
ADDED STARTER ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Cont' d. )
CASE 5.0086-PD-84. Application by FORSUM, SUMMERS for Freeman Properties for
architectural approval of wrought iron pool fencing for condominium
complex on E . Palm Canyon Drive between Cerritos Road/Andee Drive, R-3 &
R-1-C Zones, Section 24.
M/S/C (Curtis/Koetting; Madsen abstained) approving the application
subject to the following condition: That details of landscaping for the
fence be submitted for staff approval .
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• ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Cont'd)
CASE 3.364. Application by W & J ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES for Columbia Savings
& Loan for architectural approval of revised site plan and elevations
for savings and loan branch office on E. Palm Canyon Drive between S.
Palm Canyon Drive/W. Palm Canyon Drive, C-1 Zone, Section 23.
M/S/C (Kaptur/Harris) approving the application subject to the following
conditions:
1 . That landscape/hardscape be included in-lieu of concrete to the
north of the property adjoining the fountain.
2. That arch windows be used on the northeast and southeast
elevations.
3. That vertical wood/tile be introduced under the arches on the west
elevation.
4. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be met.
5. That windows be recessed into the southwest elevation.
6. That the landscape area be widened on the east elevation.
• 7. That landscaping be introduced on the southeast elevation.
8. That the tower element be lowered three feet.
9. That detailed landscape, irrigation, and exterior lighting plans
be submitted.
CONTINUED ITEMS
CASE 3.560 (Minor) . TRINIDAD HOTEL for architectural approval of repaint of
exterior of hotel at 1900 E. Palm Canyon Drive, R-3 Zone, Section 24.
Continued at the applicant' s request.
•
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• ITEM FOR RESTUDY
The following items were removed from the Planning Commission agenda
pending restudy. Application will be rescheduled for hearing only after
revised submittals have been processed.
CASE 3.403. HEATHMAN HILL ASSOCIATES for architectural approval of as-built
landscape plans for professional condominiums on the south side of
Tahquitz-McCallum Way between Avenida Caballeros/Hermosa Drive, C-1-AA &
R-4-VP (I .L. ) Zones , Section 14.
Restudy to return to the original landscape plan.
Tribal Council comments:
"In view of this project' s proximity to the Tribal Cemetery, the Tribal
Council has heretofore reviewed and conditionally approved building
elevations, site plan, and landscape plans for the subject project. The
conditional approval included an agreement and understanding with the
developer that he would install and maintain additional landscaping at
his expense, in order to mitigate any visual impact on the Tribal
cemetery could best be determined.
The follow-up site inspection referred to above was conducted by members
of the Tribal Council and the developer on February 7, 1983. On the
. basis of this inspection and discussion with the developer, the Tribal
Council approved the as-built landscape plans as submitted by the
developer, with the understanding that landscaping of the Northwesterly
corner of the site (not incuded on the as-built plans) will be
coordinated with current plans for expansion and landscaping of the
Tribal cemetery.
As a supplement to its comments/recommendations on Commission agenda
items for February 9, 1983, the Tribal Council is submitting follow-up
comments on previous cases that it considered."
ITEM REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA
CASE 3.309. Application by H. KASSINGER for the Bank of Palm Springs Center
for architectural approval of entry canopies and revised sign program
for retail center on Tahquitz-McCallum Way between Calle El
Segundo/Calle Alvarado, R-4-VP & C-1-AA Zones (I .L. ) , Section 14.
Removed for staff approval .
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COMMISSION REPORTS, REQUESTS AND DISCUSSION
- Planning Commissioners institute in Monterey March 2 - 4. Planning
Director stated that all reservations and registration had been made for
the Commissioners' institute.
Cathedral City General Plan. Planning Director reminded Commission that
they were invited to attend the Cathedral City Planning Commission joint
study session at 7:30 p.m. , February 9.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Chairman adjourned the
meeting at 5:45 p.m.
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