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Council Chamber, City Hall
April 28, 1982
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1981 - 1982
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to date
Michael Harris, Chairman - 15 5
Carrie Allan X 18 2
Richard Service - 17 3
Paul Madsen X 18 2
Darel Harris X 18 2
David Christian - 16 4
Peter Koetting X 19 1
Staff Present
John A. Mangione, Director of Community Development
Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director
Siegfried Siefkes, Assistant City Attorney
Douglas Evans, Planner III
Robert Green, Planner II
Stephen Graham, Planner II
• Mary L. Isenberg, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee Present - April 26, 1982
Larry Lapham, Chairman
Chris Mills (alternate)
Earl Neel
Hugh Kaptur
David Hamilton
Absent: Peter Koetting & James Cioffi
Acting Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of the April 14, 1982 meeting were unanimously approved with the
following corrections:
Page 5, paragraph 6 - Case 5.0217-CUP & TTM 18507 - delete "unanimously" from the
motion carried.
. Page 19, paragraph 8. Add after "Case 5.0221-CUP - and was sure that each
Commissioner was provided with a copy of Mr. Dobbs ' letter."
April 28, 1982 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 2
• APPROVAL OF MINUTES (Cont'd. )
Page 20, add before Adjournment, "Planning Director stated that the video tape
referred to in the "Reports, Requests, and Discussion" section of the March
24, 1982 Minutes had been recorded by Commissioner Christian.
ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION
Chairman and Vice-Chairman were absent; Acting Chairman introduced the
new Assistant City Attorney, Siegfried Siefkes, who will be attending
Planning Commission meetings and meeting with staff for all agenda
items.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
CASE 5.0217-CUP & TTM 18507. Application by L. LAPHAM for G. McGlamary for a
CUP and map to allow construction of a residential condominium project
on Ramon Road between La Mirada Road/Fern Canyon Drive, R-1-A Zone
(I.L. ) , Section 22.
(Commission response to written comments on draft Negative Declaration,
• action for filing, and final approval . No comments received. ) .
Planning Director presented a brief review of the project and stated
that the Commission had tentatively approved two additional conditions
as follows:
That the wall height of the individual homeowners in the area be
respected, and that a sight-line study be submitted for each proposed
single family residence. He stated that staff has met with members of
the public regarding the case and they may be in the audience to provide
further input. He gave the staff report and the Tribal Council comments
on the project.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
J. Tourtelot, 575 Fern Canyon Drive, explained that the wall next to his
property would be eight feet above his driveway and would then step down
below his existing wall . He stated that he felt that the solution to
the wall height would be in the grading of the pads and that the four
corners average should be taken for the height; noted that drainage
problems can be solved by the engineers; that the developer is building
on top of rocks on the property because of cost savings and excavation
and to allow a better view; that the developer should communicate with
present homeowners to make the project more compatible with each piece
of property, and requested that input from both sides be generated.
• There being no further appearances, the hearing was closed.
April 28, 1982 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 3
. Case 5.0217/TTM 18507 (Cont'd. )
In reply to a question by Commissioner D. Harris, Planning Director
stated that it was his impression that all ten residences were to be
built at one time although the character of the architecture and the
size of the homes may be revised slightly.
Commissioner D. Harris suggested that the developer construct walls
around the individual residences only without a perimeter wall .
J. Sanborn, Webb Engineering, representing the applicant, stated that
the applicant will work with property owners individually and that there
would be differences in pad elevations; that a wall is probably desired
by existing homeowners; and that an equitable wall can be built adjacent
to each property.
Commissioner D. Harris commented that the wall is a major complaint of
the homeowners in the area. Mr. Sanborn stated that it was the wall
height, not the wall which was a problem to the homeowners since most
property owners want walls for separation between neighbors; and that
there are non-standard walls and fences in the area at the present time.
Acting Chairman stated that the Commission condition regarding
respecting individual walls referred to the wall height.
Commissioner Koetting noted that there would not be walls within walls,
. for individual residences, but a perimeter wall with individual walls
meeting the perimeter wall .
Discussion followed on resolution of the wall height problem with in-
dividual homeowners. Commissioner D. Harris stated that the wall should
be resolved by the Planning Commission or the City, and that a walled
community in the area is not compatible.
Planning Director stated that the Planning Commission will review in-
dividual residences with sight-line studies for each residence and that
the overall grading and landscape plan would include the perimeter wall
plan as a single element (as part of the common design); that the resi-
dences would not be reviewed at a public hearing, but if the Commission
desires, staff could contact property owners regarding review of final
plans since the special notification is not atypical of sensitive
projects.
Motion was made by Koetting, seconded by Madsen, and carried (Service &
M. Harris absent; D. Harris dissented) ordering the filing of a Negative
Declaration and approving Case 5.0217-CUP & TTM 18507 subject to the
following conditions:
1. That detailed landscape, irrigation and exterior lighting plans be
submitted.
2. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be met
• (Development Committee Minutes of December 17, 1981 & Supple-
mentary Engineering Memo of February 19, 1982) .
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• CASE 5.0217-CUP/TTM 18507 (Cont'd. )
3. That the maximum fill condition adjacent to property lines be one
to two feet, and that perimeter walls be limited to six feet above
natural grade.
4. That all mitigative measures regarding the subsurface disposal
system and archaeology be met.
5. That the tract C.C. & R. 's contain adequate provision for main-
tenance of all common areas and other provisions to keep all
common recreation landscape areas for the life of the project.
Any future alterations shall be subject to Planning Commission
review.
6. That night lighting on the tennis court be prohibited.
7. That a specific wall plan (with the wall height of existing homes
to be respected by the developer) and sections be submitted with
the landscape plan.
8. That each individual residence be approved by the Planning Com-
mission with a sight line and detailed grading plan to be sub-
mitted along with typical architectural plans.
Tribal Council comments:
"This case was considered by the Tribal Council at its meetings of March
23 and April 13, 1982.
After consideration of the recommendations of the Indian Planning Com-
mission, the Tribal Council took the following actions:
1. Reiterated its prior actions to approve the Conditional Use
Permit and the Tentative Map of Tract No. 18507 subject to
the conditions recommended by City Staff, with the following
exception:
Action on the condition requiring payment of drainage fees
was withheld pending receipt and review of the benefit-cost
analysis to be prepared by City Staff.
2. Approved the filing of a Negative Declaration with the added
mitigation measures recommended by City Staff.
3. Concurred with the City Planning Commission action of April
14, 1982 to add conditions requiring "that the wall height
of existing homes be respected by the developer and that a
sight line study be required for each home".
•
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• CASE 5.0221-CUP. Application by Y. DENEBEIM for conditional use permit to
allow a daily prayer chapel on Avenida Ortega between Via Salida/Calle
Palo Fierro, R-3 Zone, Section 23.
(This action is categorically exempt from environmental assessment per
CEQA.)
Planning Director stated that the item had been continued because of the
Jewish holidays; that staff would recommend continuance to May 12 to
allow noticing of one Indian lessor who had not been noticed and could
not be contacted because of an unlisted phone; that concerns of neigh-
boring residents had been heard at the previous meeting; that another
letter from E. Dobbs protesting the use had been received; that staff
had met with the Rabbi and the City Attorney; that a letter had been
sent from the City Attorney's office which had not contained a cease and
desist order, but the Rabbi indicated that the facility would not be
used until action had been taken on the CUP; and that the project is not
on Indian land, but that one Indian property owner within 400 feet was
not noticed.
Commissioner D. Harris suggested that the case be heard since the appli-
cant has not been cooperative.
Discussion followed. Planning Director stated that, based on the advice
• of the City Attorney, the case could not be heard or comments taken
until the Indian propety owner has been noticed unless there are persons
in the audience who could not come to the May 12 meeting; and that the
Commission might give some direction to staff on the cease and desist
order.
Commissioner D. Harris stated that since there was a Commission con-
sensus on the cease and desist order, the applicant should receive
formal notification. Planning Director stated that staff would issue
the order.
Acting Chairman declared the hearing open; there being no appearances,
the hearing was closed.
Acting Chairman requested that the letter dated April 3, from Mr. Dobbs,
be entered as part of the testimony. (Letter on file in Department of
Community Development. )
Further discussion followed on the cease and desist order. Commission
consensus was to direct staff to send a cease and desist order to the
applicant.
The item was continued to the May 12, 1982 meeting.
•
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• CASE 5.0223-CUP. Application by COBLE-BRAMBLETT CONSTRUCTION AND INVESTMENT
COMPANY for a conditional use permit to allow offices at 1445 N. Sun-
rise Way between Vista Chino/Chia Road, R-2 Zone, Section 11.
(This action is categorically exempt from environmental assessment per
CEQA. )
Planning Director stated that the applicant had requested by letter a
continuance in order to meet with staff to resolve open space require-
ments and that staff would recommend a 30-day continuance to May 26,
1982.
Acting Chairman declared the hearing open; there being no appearances,
the hearing was continued to the meeting of May 26, 1982.
CASE 5.0222-PD-137. Application by C. MILLS for W. Coble for a planned
development district in-lieu of a change of zone to allow construction
of a 120-unit residential condominium project on Escoba Drive between an
existing radio tower/Los Compadres Stables, R-1-C Zone ( I.L. ) , Section
30.
(Environmental assessment and tentative approval . )
Planning Director presented the staff report including findings, recom-
mendations and direction for Commission action and stated that staff had
received a petition signed by persons at 23 addresses in the neighbor-
hood; that the Tribal Council has requested continuance to review the
compatability of the project with the area and that staff would have no
objections to the continuance request.
Discussion followed on location of the carport, the R-1-C Zoning, and
the General Plan configuration of high density residential affecting the
property. Planning Director stated that staff figures calculate that
100 units are allowed, not 120 based on a specific location of the high
density residential designation, but that the General Plan is not in-
tended to be interpreted absolutely literally based on graphics.
Acting Chairman declared the hearing open.
H. Hampton, representing the developer, gave a history of the project
and stated that the former application which had been approved at 36-
units was not economically feasible; that the parcel was a problem one;
that the high density portion has been treated sensitively with wide
setbacks; that the condominiums will sell in the $40,000 to $50,000
range which addresses the housing goals of the City; and that there is a
difference of opinion between staff and the applicant regarding density.
He noted that the 120-units proposed would have the same effect of 100
units because of the treatment of the site and would have a negligible
• impact which was no greater than the prior approved project.
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. CASE 5.0222-PD-137 (Cont'd.)
C. Mills, 278-C North Palm Canyon Drive, the architect, stated that the
120-unit density was justified by the General Plan for the area; that
there was a negligible impact difference between 100 and 120 units;
described the differences between the formerly approved 36 unit project
and the 120 unit project; and stated that the proposed project is more
sensitive to the area.
In reply to a question by Commission Christian, Mr. Mills stated that
the average size of 96 of the 120 units is 648 sq. ft. and the remaining
24 units are 750 sq. ft.
R. Mainiero, 777 E. Tahquitz, engineer for the project, stated that the
project would not overload the capacity of the current sewer system and
requested that the requirement for the El Cielo sewer line be deleted.
He also requested that the requirement for the 20 ft. equestrian ease-
ment be reduced to seven and one-half feet as was approved on the
previous project.
S. Millard, Escoba Drive, stated that she agreed with staff's recom-
mendation for denial , citing additional traffic problems, especially at
the corner of El Cielo and Escoba; that the project was not compatible
with the expensive homes in the neighborhood and that the location of
the driveway is a problem; and that she was not a signatory to the
petition but was speaking as an individual .
• J. Katmeyer, 3506 El Cielo Road, objected to the traffic and stated that
the current residents and the proposed project would use the same
street; that two of the persons who did not sign the petition were
present and could add their names to the petition if they desired; that
there was no objection to the former project since it had lesser
density; that the proposed project increases traffic not necessarily at
the intersection, but on the two-way street and would affect the
residents, especially the children who use the route to go to school ; he
noted that property values will decrease; and that the project is
beautiful but the density is objectionable.
Mrs. R. Sheehan, Escoba Drive, stated that the environment of the area
is not a problem for the current 33 homeowners; and that the current
residents knew of the stables and the radio tower when they bought their
homes.
R. Blevins, 3526 El Gaucho, agreed with other opinions expressed and
stated that the traffic was the main concern since it is overwhelming at
the present time when there are church functions.
H. Curtis, 3569 Las Pampas, asked how a zone change is obtained. Acting
Chairman stated that the project application is for a planned develop-
ment district for mixed usage in-lieu of a change of zone. Mr. Curtis
stated that he had observed the effect of a two-story or moderate cost
housing project on a neighborhood since the San Jacinto apartments have
• been built; that tenants of the apartment create disturbances; and that
the current proposed project is not compatible with the neighborhood.
April 28, 1982 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 8
CASE 5.0222-PD-137 (Cont'd . )
• H. Hampton (rebuttal ) , stated that the intersection of Highway ill and
Escoba is a controlled intersection with a traffic signal and increased
traffic is a fact of life; that the entry across from the church parking
lot was changed from the previous application to make it more appro-
priate and that if the parcel were analyzed, it would be more suited to
higher density residential than single family residential .
In reply to a question from Commissioner Madsen, Planning Director
stated that the zoning is R-1-C; that the previous project of 36 units
met R-1-C standards and General Plan standards; that the application is
a planned development district rather than a zone change so that the
Commission can make a judgment on whether or not it is compatible with
the General Plan which staff feels it is not; that the staff had deter-
mined that the General Plan would have to be amended to show higher
density if this project would be considered; and that the reason the
high density is shown is because of the graphic nature of the General
Plan; and that the property was never intended to be of higher density;
that the highway does not directly access the property; that all circu-
lation is from local streets; and that if the applicant applied for
another type of zoning, a zone change and a General Plan amendment would
be required.
Discussion followed on the density and character of the project.
• In reply to a question by Commission Koetting, Planning Director stated
that the access across from the church is in the most appropriate
location; that no access agreement exists with Los Compadres Stables;
and that too much traffic would be generated into the residential area
if the access were located further east.
Acting Chairman stated that the project uses single family residential
to buffer the higher density; that it is not affordable housing and can-
not receive increased density; that the intersection of Highway 111 and
Escoba is very dangerous; and that she could not see justification for
approval of the project.
Planning Director stated that the Planning Commission has not approved a
change of zone to increase density except for implementation of housing
goals.
Commissioner Koetting stated that he had mixed opinions on the project;
that it is well designed and fitted into the area properly; but that
single family residential should not be built against the San Jacinto
apartment complex; but that his main concern was access. He stated that
the character of the area is lower density residential across the
street, but that the consistency with the adjacent project is the San
Jacinto apartments which are quite similar; and that it is unfortunate
that there is only one access to the area.
In reply to a question by Commissioner Koetting, Planning Director
• stated that there was no overlay of higher density because of its being
Indian land, and that the judgment on the density was made on General
Plan terms.
April 28, 1982 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 9
• CASE 5.0222-PD-137 (Cont'd.)
Motion was made by Christian, seconded by Madsen, and unanimously
carried (M. Harris & Service absent; D. Harris abstained) den�inq the
application for a planned development district in-lieu of a Change of
zone based on the following findings:
1. That the planned development district lacks consistency with the
intent of the General Plan for the area.
2. That there is a significant increase in density (230%) without any
implementation of housing goals and objectives of the General Plan
Housing Element.
3. That access to the project is inadequate.
4. That there will be an increase in traffic which may necessitate
alterations to the existing traffic control program.
5. That public testimony indicates that the project would be detri-
mental to the neighborhood.
Tribal Council comments:
"The Environmental Assessment/Initial Study and Staff Report dated April
28, 1982, questioned the consistency of the proposed project with the
. City's General Plan Land Use and Housing Elements. While the Staff
Report recommended that the application be denied, the Environmental
Assessment/Initial Study indicted that a reduction in density could
mitigate the Land use impacts.
After consideration of the recommendations of the Indian Planning Com-
mission, the Tribal Council requested that this case be continued to the
City Planning Commission's next regular meeting for the purposes of
further study and comments by the Indian Planning Commission and Tribal
Planning Consultant with respect to the issues reaised by City Staff,
and to the compatibility of the proposed project with area development.
CASE 5.0224-CUP & 6.322-VARIANCE (Ref. Case 3.475). Application by JIMSAIR
AVIATION for a conditional use permit for a combination service station
/convenience store as an adjunct to the overall facilities of the
airport and a variance for hangar roof height located on Bogie Road be-
tween Vista Chino/Ramon Road, "A" Zone, Section 13.
(Commission response to written comments on draft Negative Declaration,
(on Case 3.475) , action for filing, and final approval . No comments
received. )
•
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• CASE 5.0224-CUP & 6.322-VARIANCE (Ref. Case 3.475)
Planning Director presented the staff report including findings, recom-
mendations and direction for Commission action for the variance, CUP and
the architectural case. He stated that a staff condition would be
eliminate the proposed convenience store, although there is a letter
from the Airport Operations Manager stating that there is a need for it;
that the gasoline industry is beginning to buffer their economics by
adding facilities such as convenience markets to their stations but if
allowed in one location in an "A" Zone, could set a precedent; that
staff would recommend approval of the CUP for the service station
subject to deletion of the market, approval of the variance for hangar
height, approval of Case 3.475, and the filing of a Negative Decla-
ration.
Discussion followed on the size of the aircraft to be accommodated by
the hangars. Planning Director stated that it would be the largest type
of fixed base operation aircraft; and that the project should be
approved as an overall master site plan, which may have changes in the
future.
Discussion followed on the abstentions at the AAC meeting of two archi-
tects on the Committee.
Commissioner Christian stated that there was no reason to refer the
application back to the AAC for the architects' input since the same
. architects will abstain again; but that he could not see any real
problem since the Planning Commission can override recommendations of
the Architectural Advisory Committee.
Acting Chairman declared the hearing open.
H. Williamson, 690 Sierra Way, representing JIMSAIR, owner of the
project, stated that the applicant and the engineer were present. He
gave a brief history of the project and stated that the convenience
store was necessary for the viability of the project; that the old type
of gas station is no longer built; and that the complex will generate a
considerable amount of money for the City. He requested that the street
light and bikepath requirements along Bogie Road be deleted. He stated
that the $6,000 per acre drainage fee requirement was a surprise since
drainage is on-site; noted that convenience stores do not have liquor
licenses, only beer and wine; and the name "convenience store" should be
changed since it has a poor connotation; that one of the hangars can
accommodate 727 aircraft which have become executive aircraft; and noted
that the hangars would probably not service commercial aircraft except
on an emergency basis.
Discussion followed on the location of the convenience store in relation
to the services provided. Mr. Williamson stated that gasoline companies
do not build gasoline filling stations alone anymore.
Commissioner Koetting stated that some type of convenience store could
• be placed inside the airport terminal , and that a convenience store/gas
station is not what the Commission envisions on Bogie Road.
April 28, 1982 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 11
• CASE 5.0224-CUP & 6.322-VARIANCE (Ref. Case 3.475)
Further discussed ensued relative to operation of a car rental facility
in the complex. Mr. Williamson stated that a car rental agency in the
complex should have its own gasoline pump.
Assistant City Attorney stated that a convenience store is not a per-
mitted use and that the mini-market would have to be found to be a use
similar to a permitted use at the airport and consistent with the "A"
(airport) zoning.
Acting Chairman commented that there is no mini-market in the airport at
the present time.
There being no further appearances, the hearing was closed.
Commissioner Christian noted that the complex seems to be a private air-
craft facility but that the primary function seems to have changed to
merchandise gasoline on Bogie Road. He stated that the convenience
store is in an inconvenient place for general aviation pilots and
passengers.
Further discussion followed on the function of the project and hangar
height.
Planning Director explained the FAA requirements for hangar height. He
. stated that there would be a final architectural review of the terminal
and the service station if the mini-market is deleted.
Discussion continued on the location and height of the hangar. Planning
Director explained the height requirement and stated that the height was
needed to service aircraft.
In reply to a question by Commissioner D. Harris, Planning Director
stated that the street light requirement was established by the Traffic
Engineer but that the Director of Community Development had recommended
deletion at this time; that the bikepath will be required; that the
drainage fees are required on all new development in the area based on
the Master Plan; that $6,000 per acre is one of the lowest fees and may
increase slightly based on the revised plan; and noted that the restau-
rant would be a part of a future phase.
Motion was made by Madsen, seconded by Koetting, and carried (Service &
M. Harris absent; Christian & D. Harris dissented) ordering the filing
of a Negative Declaration and approving variance 6.322 for the airport
hangar roof height, approval of CUP 5.0224 for a filling station (with-
out a convenience store), and approving Case 3.475 subject to the
following conditions:
1. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be met with
the exception that street lights be placed only at the
intersection of Bogie Road at the southwest corner of the
• northerly driveway.
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• CASE 5.0224 CUP & 6.322-VARIANCE (Ref. Case 3.475)
2. That detailed plans be submitted for each subsequent phase.
3. That detailed landscape, irrigation, and exterior lighting plans
be submitted, including major tree forms to reduce the visual
impact of the proposed structure.
4. That architectural working drawings be submitted and reviewed by
the AAC and the Planning Commission.
5. That a revised site plan and elevations for the service station be
submitted and approved prior to the conditional use permit be-
coming effective.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
J. Cioffi , applicant in Case 3.487 stated that he was present to answer
questions and that much study had gone into the project since the last
meeting.
R. Mainiero, 777 E. Tahquitz-McCallum Way, applicant in TTM 18329, requested
that the Commission approve phasing of the project.
. J. Sanborn, Webb Engineering, Inc. , engineer for TTM 18329, asked clarifi-
cation regarding the type of bus shelter required. Planning Director stated
that a shelter should preferably be designed to match the architecture of the
project although a standard bus shelter could be used. Mr. Sanborn requested
that the bikepath and landscaping along the dike be made part of the last
phase. Planning Director stated that that was no problem. Mr. Sanborn also
requested deletion of the ten foot minimum landscaping requirement on the
north property line since it is an industrial property.
G. Morris, 1445 N. Sunrise Way, applicant for TTM 18385, requested that the
requirement for constructing a sidewalk be deleted since no other development
in the area has one. He also requested deletion of the requirement for an
eight inch sewer line since a septic tank can be utilized.
J. Davies, 3295 Tigertail Lane, owner of residence in Case 3.401, stated that
she had difficulties with the contractor and had thought revised plans had
been approved since there had been City inspection of the site; that when the
house was built, certain "dimple" details were eliminated because of the
neighbors' objection; and that she thought a revised landscape plan had been
submitted. She noted that the contractor is now in bankruptcy; that she has
attempted to complete the home since the uncompleted project is unsightly;
that a revised landscape plan will be submitted; and requested rescheduling of
the application as soon as possible.
In reply to a question by Commission D. Harris, Mrs. Davies stated that the
color of the residence and the roof were approved by the Architectural Com-
mittee of Southridge and she had been told by an assistant to the builder that
the color had also been approved by the City. She stated that the color was
similar to three other homes in the area and the roof would be a darker shade
of the color.
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. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT ITEMS
Environmental evaluation reports were received by the Commission for
their review and study prior to the Planning Commission meeting.
Further review may be dispensed with and all items approved by motion.
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 18352. Application by WEBB ENGINEERING, INC. for R. C.
Ellis for a subdivision of land for property located south of Ramon Road
on the east side of Crossley Road, M-1 Zone (I.L. ), Section 20.
Planning Director stated that the application was the first one in the
recently M-1 Zoned area of Golf Club Drive and Crossley Road. He
presented the map on the display board and stated that the bikepath and
landscape buffer are necessary requirements including landscaping on the
north and southerly property lines; that a portion of the landscaping
next to each phase will be required to be put in including everything
along Crossley Road with Phase I; and that Mesquite Avenue will not be
constructed adjacent to this property. He explained the location and
requirements for bikepaths in the City and stated that a bond could be
proposed or an assessment district formed for this property; that it
could be phased; that the landscape buffer on the interior of the
project is for wind and sand abatement; that there will be no land-
scaping unless the Commission requires it; and that the requirement is
necessary to begin formation of a windbreak system for those properties
• downstream, which in this case are residences. He recommended that ten
foot landscape buffers be required on both the north and south property
lines.
Further discussion ensued on the landscape requirements.
Motion was made by D. Harris, seconded by Christian, and carried
(Service & M. Harris absent; Madsen dissented) ordering preparation of a
draft Negative Declaration and tentatively approving TPM 18352 subject
to all recommendations of the AAC and staff, including a designed bus
stop and the inclusion of the bikepath in the last phase. The item was
continued to the Consent Agenda of May 12, 1982.
Tribal Council comments:
"After consideration of the recommendation of the Indian Planning Com-
mission, the TribalCouncil approved the preparation of a draft Negative
Declaration with the added mitigation measures recommended by City
Staff, and approved Tentative Parcel Map No. 18352 subject to the
conditions recommended by City Staff, with the following exception:
1. The 25' landscaped setback area along Crossley Road shall
include plant material and ground cover native to this area
and requiring minimal irrigation. This type of landscaping
should be more cost-effective than conventional greenbelts
from the standpoint of maintenance and water energy con-
sumption.
2. Action on the condition requiring payment of drainage fees
was withheld pending receipt and review of the benefit-cost
analysis to be prepared by City Staff."
April 28, 1982 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 14
. CASE 3.487. Application by J. CIOFFI for W. Lansdale for architectural
architectural approval of single family residence on private road, 0-20
Zone, Section 25. (Environmental assessment and tentative architectural
approval . )
Planner III stated that the application had been continued for review of
the mitigative measures which were to place the home at a lower height
or place it at a higher elevation with restoration of the roadway; that
the applicant had a computer graphic drawn on the topo and photos and
literature on hillside homes had been presented; that a dye was proposed
for the hillside cuts; and that the dye is like Dunn Dye but improved.
Commissioner Koetting stated that he had visited the site and the appli-
cant had devised a good solution to hide the hillside scarring.
Planner III stated that natural clay barrel tile will be required and a
sample board will be presented before construction begins.
Discussion followed regarding having a Munsell color board for the Com-
mission at the meetings. Planning Director stated that he would obtain
one.
Discussion continued relative to unapproved landscaping in the South-
ridge area. Planner III recommended that mitigative measure No. 1
under "Aesthetics" be deleted from the conditions of approval .
• Motion was made by D. Harris, seconded by Madsen, and unanimously
carried (Service & M. Harris absent) ordering the preparation of a draft
Negative Declaration, tentatively approving Case 3.487 with the
following revision to the initial study: That No. 1 under "Aesthetics."
(regarding location of the residence) be deleted. The application was
continued to the May 12, 1982 Consent Agenda.
TENTATIVE TRACT AND PARCEL MAPS
Planning Director reviewed and explained the maps and the Planning Com-
mission discussed and took action on the following tract and parcel map
based on the finding that the proposed subdivision, together with the
provisions for design and improvement, are consistent with the General
Plan of the City of Palm Springs. A Negative Declaration has been
ordered filed based on the finding that the project will not have a
significant adverse effect on the environment and subject to conditions
as outlined.
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP 18329. Application by MAINIERO, SMITH & ASSOC. for
Equitec-80 for subdivision of land for industrial purposes on Bogie
Road/San Joaquin Dr. , north of Mission Dr. , M-1-P Zone, Section 18.
• (Commission response to written comments on draft Negative Declaration,
action for filing, and final approval . No comments received.)
Planner III stated that blowsand and flooding were the primary concerns.
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TTM 18329 (Cont'd. ) .
Planning Director stated that there is no problem with the phasing
request by the engineer, but that a phase plan should be submitted for
comment by staff and review by the Commission.
Planner III stated that the project phasing would solve the major
problem of blowsand.
Discussion followed on the problem of graffiti on the walls and the
blowsand problem. Planning Director stated that landscaping would miti-
gate the graffiti problem and that building permits could be issued
during the windy season if a viable blowsand abatement program were sub-
mitted by the developer; that a recent project without proper abatement
was causing many problems; and that the Commission could make a require-
ment that there be no grading from March to June.
Commissioner D. Harris agreed; however, Commissioner Koetting stated
that it was unreasonable not to allow building during the windy season
because of economics, and that a perimeter wall should stop blowsand.
Planning Director stated that grading permits are usually not issued
during the windy season unless the developer can mitigate the problem
but the requirement has sometimes been overridden by the Director of
Community Development. He noted that large sites are difficult to
water.
• Motion was made by Koetting, seconded by Christian, and unanimously
carried (Service & M. Harris absent) ordering the filing of a Negative
Declaration and approving TTM 18329 subject to all recommendations of
staff and Development Committee and with the following additional
condition: That a phasing plan be submitted.
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENTS (Cont'd. )
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 18385. Application by BILLINGTON, INC. for C. Thompson
for a subdivision of land between Racquet Club Road/Sanborn Way, one
block west of Milo Drive, R-1-B Zone, Section 3.
(Environmental assessment and tentative approval . )
Planner III described the map on the board and stated that sewers are a
necessary requirement but that the nearest sidewalk is one-fourth to
one-half mile away, although the construction of a sidewalk is an engi-
neering requirement.
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TPM 183E (Cont'd. ) .
Discussion followed relative to sewer connection and reimbursement.
Planning Director stated that the applicant eventually will be respon-
sible for only the portion adjacent to his property and that an assess-
ment district is not feasible at the present time due to the cost; that
connection to the sewer is a subdivision requirement only unless a
project is within 500 feet of a sewer; and that reimbursement for sewer
facilities in the area is provided to a developer when other properties
connect to the sewer line.
Motion was made by D. Harris, seconded by Madsen, and carried (Service &
M. Harris absent; Koetting dissented) ordering the preparation of a
draft Negative Declaration and tentatively approving TPM 18385 with the
deletion of the sidewalk requirement. The item was continued to the May
12, 1982 Consent Agenda.
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS
The Planning Commission reviewed plans, discussed, and took action on
the following items involving architectural approval subject to the
conditions as outlined.
CASE 3.401. Application by S. CAVALLERO for J. Davies for architectural
approval of landscape plans for single family residence at 2395 Tiger-
tail Lane in Southridge, R-1-A Zone, Section 25.
Planner III stated that the AAC recommended restudy of the landscape
plan since it was not accurate and architectural details were deleted
from the plans without approval ; that the Building & Safety Director was
to have been present or a written report received from him but that he
was in a meeting and could not attend; that the AAC recommendation
recommends continuance so the project can be redrawn (as built) and that
the colors originally approved have not been complied with.
Discussion followed on the location of the residence. Commissioner D.
Harris stated that it is very visible and an obnoxious color; and that
perhaps nothing could be done except for a restudy.
Discussion continued on the unapproved color of the house. In response
to a question by Commissioner Koetting, Mrs. Davies stated that she had
never seen the display on the board; that the two basic changes made
were the removal of the curved appurtenances on the house and the
deletion of the glass wall .
Commissioner Koetting suggested that the applicant meet with staff to
discuss the project to determine what can be done. Mrs. Davies stated
that she would meet with staff and wanted as little physical changes as
possible because of fiscal problems.
• Discussion followed on whether or not photos or as-built drawings should
be required.
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CASE 3.401 (Cont 'd. ) .
Commissioner D. Harris questioned the reasons for the Building Division
allowing the revisions without approval.
Motion was made by Koetting and seconded by Madsen for a restudy with
AAC conditions to be waived until staff can solve the problems with the
applicant without redrawing the building elevations (later amended to
delete AAC recommendation No. 1 that revised elevations and archi-
tectural details be submitted) until an expeditious solution is reached,
and for applicant to meet with staff to find a solution to the problems.
Commissioner Christian left the meeting at this point.
CASE 3.494 (Minor) . A plication by D. WEXLER for Spa Hotel for architectural
approval of enclosure of existing swimming pool cover at 100 N. Indian
Avenue, C-2 Zone (I.L. ), Section 14.
Planning Director explained that the applicant is seeking to enclose a
roofed outdoor meeting area and that no change in parking is antici-
pated.
• Motion was made by Koetting, seconded by D. Harris, and unanimously
carried (Service, M. Harris & Christian absent) approving the appli-
cation as submitted.
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
REQUEST FOR TIME EXTENSION (Ref. Case 5.0067-PD-87) . Request by W. GIETTER
for request of time extension on planned development district and map
for one year beyond date of expiration of map to September 16, 1983
(Ref. TTM 17279) .
Planning Director presented a brief staff report regarding the time
extension request.
Motion was made by Madsen, seconded by Koetting, and unanimously carried
(Service, M. Harris & Christian absent) approving a one year time
extension for TTM 17279 and a time extension on PD-87 final development
plans to coincide with the Tract Map extension subject to all original
conditions of approval with the following additional conditions:
1. That the applicant dedicate easements for sewer purposes in Radio
Road or provide a letter allowing the sewer main to remain in its
present location pending the dedication of the sewer easement
prior to City Council approval of the extension of time.
is 2. That the project be subject to storm drain implementation and/or
drainage fees now required in this drainage area.
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• SECOND TIME EXTENSION - TTM 16158. Request by J. HACKER & ASSOC. for Landusa
Corporation for a second one year time extension for TTM 16158, a com-
bination of property to allow construction of an 18-unit condominium
project on the east side of Sunrise Way between Amado Road/Desert Palms
Drive, R-2 Zone, Section 13.
Planning Director stated that no new conditions would be required and
that the School Impact and Drainage fees and/or mitigation had been
required in approval of the first time extension.
Commissioner D. Harris stated that he would not vote for the approval
because school impact fees should not be placed on any project until the
fees are approved by the Council .
Motion was made by Koetting, seconded by Madsen, and carried (Service,
M. Harris & Christian absent; D. Harris dissented) approving a second
one year time extension for TTM 16158 subject to all original conditions
of approval .
ARCHITECTURALAPPROVAL ITEMS (Cont'd. )
CASE 5.0166-PD-124. Application by R. GREGORY for Palm Springs Baptist Church
for architectural approval of final develoment plans (landscape) for
• Phase I of expansion on the northeast corner of El Cielo/Escoba Drive,
R-1-C Zone, Section 19.
Planning Director stated that the AAC did not want both bikepaths and
sidewalks and would prefer a combination and requested that the Planning
Commission and staff review the need for a sidewalk and a meandering
bikepath.
Discussion followed on whether or not action should be taken on the
bikepath/sidewalk proposal by the AAC.
Motion was made by Madsen, seconded by Allan, and unanimously carried
(Service, Christian & M. Harris absent; D. Harris abstained) for a
restudy of the landscape and for the bikepath to remain as planned.
•
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i CONSENT AGENDA
The following items are routine in nature and have been reviewed by the
Planning Commission, AAC, and staff. No further review is required, and
all items are approved by one blanket motion upon unanimous consent.
Motion was made by Madsen, seconded by D. Harris, and unanimously
carried (Service, M. Harris & Christian absent) approving the following
applications subject to all conditions of staff, Development Committee
and the AAC as follows and ordering the filing of a Negative Declaration
as indicated:
CASE 3.101. M. BUCCINO for Investor' s Real Estate for architectural approval
of additional landscape plans for Phase I of condominium project on the
northeast corner of Amado Road/Avenida Caballeros, R-G-A (8) Zone
(I.L. ), Section 14.
Approved as submitted.
CONTINUED ITEMS
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP 18126 & CASE 3.439. ERVIN ENGINEERING for J. Cain for
architectural approval of final grading and landscape plans for
• residential condominium project on Vista Chino between Cerritos
Road/Sunrise Way, R-G-A (6) Zone, Section 12.
Continued to May 12, 1982 for receipt of landscape plans.
DISCUSSION. PLANNING COMMISSION discussion regarding the concept of lacing
lights on palm trees to light buildings on Palm Canyon Drive FRef. Case
2.960 - The Vineyard) .
Continued to May 12, 1982.
ITEMS FOR RESTUDY
The following items were removed from the Planning Commission agenda
pending restudy. Application will be rescheduled for hearing only after
revised submittals have been processed.
CASE 3.304/TTM 15945 (Revised) . J. COTTON for architectural approval of
revised elevations for four 4-unit apartments on Avenida Caballeros
between Vista Chino/Cottonwood Road, R-2 Zone, Section 11.
(Commission response to written comments on draft Negative Declaration. )
• Restudy to address overall lack of integration of the architecture and
review of landscape concepts and materials.
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CASE 5.0080-CUP. OUR SAVIOUR'S LUTHERAN CHURCH for architectural approval
of final landscape and exterior lighting plans for remodel and addition
to church at 1020 Ramon Road, R-2 Zone, Section 14.
Restudy of the street tree size and quantity, berm element adjacent to
the parking area, and shrubbery on the proposed mounding to screen the
parking.
CASE 3.473. THOMPSON ARCHITECTURAL GROUP for Desert Associates for archi-
tectural approval of final landscape plans for residential condominimu
project bounded by E1 Segundo, San Andreas, Alvarado, and Amado Road, R-
4 Zone (I.L. ), Section 14.
Restudy to provide shrubs and groundcover plans, review of the planter
area and plantings between the carport and to provide planters at the
base of each column; and a review of the tree plan.
COMMISSION REPORTS, REQUESTS AND DISCUSSION
Staff to review with applicant, lighting on parking lot at the Racquet
Club Plaza (Case 5.0127-PD-113) .
• ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Acting Chairman adjourned
the meeting at 5:55 p.m.
MDR/mi LANNI G DIR TOR