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Council Chamber, City Hall
March 10, 1982
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1981 - 1982
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to date
Michael Harris, Chairman X 14 3
Carrie Allan X 15 2
Richard Service X 15 2
Paul Madsen X 15 2
Darel Harris X 15 2
David Christian X 14 3
Peter Koetting X 16 1
Staff Present
Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director
Douglas Evans, Planner III
Dudley Hemphill , Traffic Engineer
Dave Forcucci , Zoning Enforcement Officer
• Mary L. Isenberg, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee Present - March 8, 1982
Larry Lapham, Chairman
Peter Koetting
James Cioffi
Chris Mills (alternate)
David Hamilton
Earl Neel
Absent: Hugh Kaptur, David Christian (interim)
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
Approval of Minutes
Minutes of the February 10, 1982 meeting were unanimously approved as submitted.
Minutes of the February 24, 1982 meeting were unanimously approved with the
following correction:
Page 4, paragraph 2 (TTM 18216), change "timeshare project" to "condominium
conversion".
March 10, 1982 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES Page 2
• PUBLIC HEARINGS
CASE 5.0211-CUP & 6.319-VARIANCE & TTM 17899. Application by E. WILLIAMS (Watt
Industries) for a CUP to allow construction of a 7-unit timeshare/condo-
minium project and a variance from rear yard setback and timeshare
location requirements on the southeast corner of Arenas Road/Tahquitz
Drive, R-2 Zone, Section 15.
(Commission response to written comments on draft Negative Declaration,
action for filing, and final approval . No comments received.)
Chairman stated that the applicant has requested a two week continuance.
Chairman declared the hearing open; there being no appearances, the
hearing was continued to the March 24 for submission of revised plans and
further review and action.
CASES 5.0210-CUP & 6.321-VARIANCE & TTM 18261. Application by L. DELROSE for
a CUP for conversion of existing apartment units to timeshare condominium
and a variance from frontyard setbacks & covered parking and map approval
for property on the north east corner of Camino Real/La Jolla Road, R-2
Zone, Section 26.
(This action is categorically exempt from environmental assessment, per
• CEQA. )
Planner III presented the staff report including findings, recommendation
and direction for Commission action. He stated that the applicant has
requested staff to withdraw the variance and tentative tract map appli-
cations based on negative staff recommendation and wishes to restructure
the application to allow undivided 650 ownership of the property with
times and ownership on a rotating basis which the applicant will explain
in the public hearing portion; that the applicant had failed to notice
the tenants, some of whom would be giving testimony in the public
hearing. He presented the findings of the CUP portion of the appli-
cation; recommended that the application be continued for two weeks at
the applicant's request for restructuring as a timeshare conversion but
not a condominium timeshare; stated that the lots are substandard in
depth along Camino Real; and that covered parking is not required; and
stated that staff finds no grounds for a variance which would be
necessary to reduce parking spaces and allow bay parking.
Commissioner Service commented that the Commission may find that the
application does not meet requirements for a variance and questioned the
need to continue it. Chairman stated that not all of the facts may have
been presented for a valid judgment procedurally.
March 10, 1982 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES Page 3
• CASE 5.0210-CUP/6.321-VARIANCE & TTM 18261 (Cont'd. )
Planning Director stated that there is a conditional use permit appli-
cation for a timeshare and also a request for a variance; that the
project can become a timeshare but it is the condominization that
requires compliance with the Zoning Ordinance; that the Timeshare Ordi-
nance does not require meeting all existing standards; that approval is
discretionary; and that the applicant could eliminate the variance and
the map and the Commission would be required to hold a public hearing for
a conditional use permit on the timeshare issue only.
Chairman declared the hearing open.
E. Noia, attorney representing the applicant, stated that the original
application was filed by the engineer on the project as an application
for a condominium conversion which requires noticing the tenants, a map,
and compliance with current code requirements, but that the applicant now
wishes to restructure the application so it would not be a condominium
conversion and would not need a variance for covered parking; that every-
thing pertaining to the variance should be deleted from the staff report;
and that without a subdivision, tenant notification is not required
although notices were given; that it is a beautiful apartment complex and
it is understandable why tenants do not wish to move; and that the new
proposal would be for straight undivided interest to the individual owner
as 1/650 ownership; that he was present to answer questions and requested
that although staff had recommended a continuance, a hearing be held on
• the conditional use permit.
In reply to a question by Commissioner Service, Mr. Noia stated that
after 650 shares had been sold there would be no more sales and each
owner would hold undivided interest which is controlled by the timeshare
declaration and that individual unit use would be rotated; and that a
clause would be inserted in the timeshare declaration to prevent the use
from being divided.
In reply to a question by Commissioner D. Harris, Mr. Noia stated that
the local ordinance does not require noticing. Planning Director stated
that notices are required to be sent only to the surrounding property
owners.
L. Delrose, 1103 De Anza, the owner, stated that when he saw timesharing
beginning in Palm Springs, he felt that it was not being done correctly;
that he chose the best building he could find that would not disturb
tenants or be detrimental to the neighborhood; that the proposal would
not adversely affect the rental market; that there are hotels in the
neighborhood with only a few single family homes; and that the apartments
are beautiful and very large.
Mrs. S. Kaye, 1850 Camino Real , a tenant, stated that the tenants thought
that a Mr. White owned the building; that her original rental unit had
not been rented since her husband had suffered a stroke; therefore, a
second apartment was rented after he had recovered; that she had no
intention of moving; that she was not given notice of the proposed time-
share before she rented the apartment; that more persons would have
spoken in opposition if they had been noticed; that she had been told by
the Planner III that she would be notified; that she did not want to move
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• CASE 5.0210-CUP/6.321-VARIANCE & TTM 18261 (Cont'd. )
into any of the other apartments or hotels in the area; and that the area
is the beginning of the canyon.
Chairman stated that no action would be taken without safeguards.
Mrs. A. French, 1850 Camino Real , tenant, stated that as a real estate
broker she did not like timeshares; that a condominium or co-op would be
a better solution; and that she did not want timeshares in Palm Springs,
especially in the south end.
Mrs. J. Baldwin, 973 La Jolla Road, stated that she was a long time
resident of the community; that rental properties which degraded the
neighborhood surrounded her home; that the tenants of the apartment
complex are an asset to the community; questioned that timeshares would
be an asset; that several families in the area had been denied similar
requests for a variance from reduced front yard setbacks and covered
parking; that she had two other letters in opposition which she wished to
present to the Commission; and that Camino Real is all residential .
E. Noia (rebuttal ) stated that all leases in the complex would be honored
and that Mrs. Kaye's expenditures for improvements in the rear yard of
her unit would be reimbursed; that the applicant was trying to work with
the tenants and that the project would be maintained by a management
company.
• There being no further appearances, the hearing was closed.
In reply to a question by Commissioner Allan, Mr. Noia stated that all
leases would be honored; that most leases ran ten to eleven months and
that timeshare marketing would not begin until late fall .
Commissioner Christian stated that he had designed the project several
years ago but that fact would not cause him to abstain; that when the
Timeshare Ordinance was developed, it was viewed as a hotel type of
function but that the subject proposal is an apartment conversion to
timeshares; that he still supported the timeshare of the hotel type of
function but not as the type of proposal suggested; and that the project
would have to at least comply with the Condominium Ordinance.
Chairman stated that the point was understandable but had been discussed
during the period the Timeshare Ordinance was being developed.
Commissioner Christian stated that each proposal was being evaluated
individually, and that the original discussions were still valid. Chair-
man stated that he could not reply unless Commissioner Christian's com-
ments were more specific.
Commissioner Service stated that timeshares were envisioned as a
sophisticated hotel use with a room tax levied but that the area of the
subject proposal was not a hotel area and would have a disruptive effect
on the area; that he did not support the proposal ; and that he would not
vote for a hotel proposal in the area if application were ever made for
that use.
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CASE 5.0210-CUP/6.321-VARIANCE & TTM 18261 (Cont'd. )
Planning Director stated that the applicant was withdrawing the tract map
and variance application but that staff had received nothing in writing;
that with the withdrawal of the map and variance, the proposal would deal
with timeshare use as an apartment structure which the applicant wishes
to timeshare; that the project could not meet current requirements with-
out a variance; that staff does not have the new proposal in writing;
that the applicant was changing from a condominium timeshare to a use
timeshare; and that a written proposal is necessary before the appli-
cation can be heard as a public hearing.
Commissioner D. Harris requested that the application be continued for a
clarification of the proposed use; and that he would not support the pro-
posal until this was accomplished.
Commissioner Allan stated that when the Timeshare Ordinance was
developed, it protected single family homes against abutting timeshare
projects and that it is an injustice to propose a hotel use in the neigh-
borhood.
Chairman stated that the Commission would not circumvent the law.
In reply to a question by Commissioner Christian, Planner III stated that
the original proposal is a timeshare condominium.
• Commissioner Christian stated that he could not support the proposal .
Chairman stated that there was no action to be taken since there is no
staff report regarding the new proposal.
Planning Director stated that the tenants would not be notified by the
City.
After discussion, Chairman requested that Planning staff obtain the City
Attorney's opinion on whether or not the permanent residents should be
notified.
Motion was made by Madsen, seconded by Christian, and carried (Allan &
Service dissented) continuing the application to the March 24 meeting for
further review.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
T. Stewart, representative of Continental Advertising, (Sign Application for
Smith's Food King) speaking on behalf of Smith's Food King requested that the
red plastic proposed be approved instead of the rust recommended by the AAC
since Smith's has adopted a standard signage with the red color; that the rust
color plastic is being phased out since it does not hold up over a period of
• time and changes color under illumination; that the red color is the only link
left to the Smith's standard signage; and presented pictures showing the
Smith's standard signage.
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• PUBLIC COMMENTS (Cont'd. )
J. Wessman, Clancy Lane, Rancho Mirage, applicant in Case 5.0177-PD-131,
requested that staff review the actions of the AAC since he could not attend.
Planner III read AAC recommendations' 1 through 3, and stated that the Com-
mittee felt that it was a beautiful project.
Planning Director stated that the sign plans for Ralph's Market do not meet
the Sign Ordinance requirements for signs facing Palm Canyon Drive; that a
revised Engineering memo recommended that the full right-of-way for Belardo
Road be dedicated from the property for 60 feet; that numbers 1 and 2 under
"Belardo Road" should be deleted and modified for one side of Belardo Road
only; that the Traffic Engineer recommends a bus turnout which is not clear on
the plans; that a condition should be required that landscaping facing Belardo
Road in the trash and service areas be inspected prior to occupancy to deter-
mine whether additional landscaping is needed for screening; that the Traffic
Engineer has indicated that the Belardo Road dedication be obtained from the
Olinger property which is a difficult condition for the applicant; and that
there is a concern to try to get full improvements on Belardo Road.
Commissioner Service requested that Mr. Wessman be invited to respond at the
time the item is reviewed on the agenda.
. Chairman stated that the Commission would expedite the items of persons in the
audience.
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS
The Planning Commission reviewed plans, discussed, and took action on the
following items involving architectural approval subject to the
conditions as outlined.
SIGN APPLICATION. Request by CONTINENTAL ADVERTISING for Smith's Food King
for reconsideration of sign color for main sign on market in neighbor-
hood shopping center at the southeast corner of North Palm Canyon
Drive/Racquet Club Road, PD-113, Section 3. (Ref. Case 5.0127-PD-113)
Chairman abstained; Vice-Chairman presided.
Zoning Enforcement Officer requested that the Commission review the color
of the red plexiglass proposed by Smith' s.
Vice-Chairman stated that he felt the project was aesthetically pleasing
except for the red Smith' s graphic. Planning Director stated that it was
approved by the Commission in that color.
Discussion followed on the size of the sign and the rust color recom-
mended by the AAC.
Motion was made by Allan, seconded by Madsen, and unanimously carried
(Christian, D. Harris, Koetting & M. Harris abstained) approving the sign
subject to the use of the rust color as recommended by the AAC.
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• ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Cont'd. )
CASE 5.0177-PD-131. Application by R. ALTEVERS for J. Wessman for
architectural approval of final development plans including landscaping
for shopping center on Highway 111 be- tween Morongo Road/Belardo Road,
C-1 and R-3 Zones (I.L. ) , Section 22.
Planner III described the project on the display board and the three
recommendations of the AAC relative to the intersection design at South
Palm Canyon, East Palm Canyon and Belardo Road; the radius return at the
southwest corner of the property; and the emphasis of the Morongo Road
and South Palm Canyon Drive intersection regarding the increase in
traffic impacting the residential character of the street.
Traffic Engineer stated that the curve from Sunny Dunes Road to Belardo
Road allowed about 25 to 30 miles per hour.
Planner III explained the sign program and stated that the applicant
requested some variance from the Sign Ordinance under planned development
district requirements; and that canvas awnings were not allowed unless
approved by the developer and the City.
Commission discussion followed on the parking area lighting; the size of
the trees; and Commissioner Koetting noted that modifications were made
to the East Palm Canyon, South Palm Canyon and Belardo Road intersection
• by the City Council .
Planning Director stated that under the PD the sign program should not be
acted upon by the Commission since it had not been reviewed by the AAC;
and that typically, signing would be allowed only on one side of the
driveway.
Discussion followed on which intersection design had been approved by the
Commission. Planning Director stated that it was Alternative 3 (on file
in the Department of Community Development).
NOTE: Planning Director left the meeting at this point.
Commissioner Koetting stated that the additional land to be dedicated and
the large radius should be reviewed by the Commission; that Belardo Road
was downgraded to discourage traffic; and that originally the Commission
wanted the traffic to go down Morongo Road.
Planner III stated that the radius return was in the Development
Committee recommendations and approved as a preliminary condition and was
based on traffic safety and that parking would be calculated for each
phase.
Commissioner Christian suggested that the South Belardo Road and Sunny
Dunes Road curve configuration be followed since it is a similar type of
• condition. Traffic Engineer stated that on the hotel on the other side
of the street, a south curb was constructed on the centerline alignment,
and that there may be physical constraints on the proposed project since
a portion of the curb has been constructed.
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. ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS/CASE 5.0177-PD-131 (Cont'd. )
Commissioner Christian stated that he supported the smaller radius.
Traffic Engineer stated that if there were no serious problems, he could
support a 100-foot radius.
J. Wessman stated that 25 parking spaces were lost when the intersection
was changed; that the project was trying to place traffic on Morongo Road
to handle traffic from the Canyon area; that a 100-foot radius was
acceptable; cited the goals of the project as an expensive shopping
center with the money to be placed where it showed; noted that he needed
as many parking spaces as could be obtained; stated that Ralph's Market
had a condition in the lease that if they faced internally, a sign would
be required on South Palm Canyon Drive; that the market was not happy
about the sign program; described the sign's colors, materials, and
design; requested that the concept be approved for two signs; stated that
the signs are part of the architecture and that the architect feels that
signs should be on both sides of the columns for balance; requested that
the plans for Home Savings & Loan be approved with the encroachment with
problems to be resolved with staff; described the configuration of other
areas of the project; the large expenditures for undergrounding Edison
lines; DWA requirement for a 24-inch line, as well as the traffic signal
cost on Morongo Road; and revamping of the signal on Belardo Road the
cost of which is also to be totally borne by the developer; requested
that he not be required to underground the Edison lines; stated that he
felt that he could not obtain the Olinger property; that lines over 33 KV
do not have to be undergrounded; and that these high voltage lines would
be up for a long time unless some kind of agreement could be worked out
as adjacent property develops.
Planner III suggested that a covenant running with the land be formulated
for future undergrounding of utility lines as other properties develop if
appropriate and approved by Director of Community Development.
Discussion followed on the future of Belardo Road as a through street.
Traffic Engineer stated that traffic was visible coming from Palm Canyon
Drive about 220 feet and landscaping would be restricted to no higher
than 30 inches at the corner. Commissioner Allan stated that she had
mixed feelings about the intersection since opinions differed between the
professionals and the architects; and stated also that she feels that the
sign should be part of the architecture. Mr. Wessman stated that the
market sign would not be visible close to the building.
Discussion continued on the proposed market signs.
Traffic Engineer stated that the City is requesting 52 feet from the
centerline on East Palm Canyo Drive which is 12 feet beyond the ultimate
development and that there is a remote possibility of a right-turn lane.
Mr. Wessman stated that if the City could obtain the Olinger property, he
would pave the entire street to aid the project and the traffic flow.
Commissioner Koetting stated that staff should discuss the half-street
requirement further.
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• ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS/CASE 5.0177-PD-131 (Cont'd. )
Discussion followed on the applicant's request for two signs for the
market on Palm Canyon Drive. Commissioner Koetting stated that two signs
were not necessary; and that he felt that the radius should be reduced
along Belardo Road.
Commissioner D. Harris stated that he agreed with Commissioner Koetting
that the shorter radius should be approved to leave more parking; and
that he was sympathetic with the developer's reaction to the expense of
undergrounding Edison lines.
Discussion followed regarding the type of motion to be taken on the
project.
Commissioner Service stated that the PD on the project should be reviewed
in its own context and that rigid adherence to standards might not be in
the best interest of the public or of the center; that the project was
aesthetically pleasing; and that Ralph's Market request for additional
signing did not bother him.
Planner III stated that if the radius were reduced, it could affect the
property of the hotel .
Motion was made by Christian, seconded by Koetting, and carried (D.
Harris & Allan dissented) approving the final development plans for the
project subject to the following conditions:
1. That the curb radius at the southwest corner of the project be
restudied by staff to allow a 100 foot radius return if feasible.
Conflicts are to be resolved prior to City Council action.
2. That a covenant be agreed to in which the applicant agrees to his
proportionate share of undergrounding of the Edison utility lines
rather than incurring the entire cost of the undergrounding along
Belardo Road.
3. That the condition regarding the applicant's bearing the entire cost
of the traffic signal be investigated and returned to the Commission
for a more equitable solution.
4. That the applicant and staff resolve more fairly, the cost of paving
Belardo Road with staff to achieve an agreement with Larry Olinger,
sharing the cost of the paving of the street.
5. That the sign program be returned to the AAC for recommendations.
(A previous motion to approve the sign program was amended and then
rescinded. )
6. That all other Development Committee conditions be met.
• Discussion followed regarding the original motion in which signing was
approved. Consensus was that the sign program should be reviewed by the
AAC.
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. ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS/CASE 5.0177-PD-131 (Cont'd. )
Commissioner Christian stated that his motion was for general approval of
the final development plans with the conditions stated in his motion.
Commissioner Allan stated that if the radius were changed, the signing
would be affected and questioned whether or not the Commission approved
something for staff to resolve.
Mr. Wessman stated that the on-site development would be reviewed by the
Commission at a later date.
Discussion followed on phasing concepts. Mr. Wessman stated that all
street improvements would be developed at one time, and that landscaping
would be nearly complete from the beginning.
Commissioner Koetting requesting that the curbs and gutters and radius in
Phase I be defined. Commissioner Christian stated that his intent was
that a 100-foot radius would be the goal realizing that there might be a
conflict with the hotel property.
In reply to a question by Commissioner D. Harris, Vice-Chairman stated
that the Commission could advise the City Council on every aspect of the
project.
Commissioner Allan stated that she dissented because she felt that the
. cost of the signals should be borne by the developer but that she did not
vote against the concept.
Commissioner D. Harris stated that he dissented because he could not
support the high cost to the developer of the undergrounding of the
Edison utility lines, but that he had not voted against the project
concept.
Discussion followed on the motion regarding the sign program. Vice-
Chairman stated that the sign program approval was deleted from the
motion.
Planner III stated that the radius and undergrounding of utilities should
be resolved before action by the City Council; and that if the sign
program were approved on March 24, the planned development could be
scheduled for Council action on April 7.
SIGN APPLICATION. Application by IMPERIAL SIGN COMPANY for Quality Inn for
architectural approval of change of face to existing main sign at 1983
North Palm Canyon Drive, C-1 Zone, Section 11.
Motion was made by Service, seconded by Allan, and unanimously carried
approving the sign application subject to the condition that the cans be
a dark brown.
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. ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Cont'd. )
CASE 3.446. Application by PRIDE LANDSCAPE for Schneck Aviation for
architectural approval of landscape plans for fixed base operator at
Palm Springs Airport, A Zone, Section 13.
Motion was made by Koetting, seconded by D. Harris, and unanimously
carried (Christian abstained) approving the application subject to the
following conditions:
1. That white oleander, five-gallon size, be planted on the east
property line.
2. That all one-gallon shrubs be increased in size to five gallon.
3. That palm trees be increased in size to 18 - 20 feet in height.
4. That all boulders be a minimum of three to five feet in diameter.
CASE 3.488. Application by W. KLEINDIENST for S. Stokes for architectural
approval of single family residence on La Mirada Road between Ramon
Road/Sunny Dunes, R-1-A Zone, Section 22.
Planner III stated that an AMM would be required for reduced side yard
Ssetbacks and for height in excess of 15 feet 6 inches.
Motion was made by Service, seconded by Koetting, and carried (Allan &
Christian dissented; Madsen abstained) approving the application subject
to the following conditions:
1. That an AMM be submitted for reduced side yard setbacks and height
in excess of 15 feet 6 inches.
2. That final landscape, irrigation and exterior lighting plans be sub-
mitted.
3. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be met.
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
SECOND TIME EXTENSION - TTM 15463. Request by ERVIN ENGINEERING for S. Appel
for a second 12-month time extension for a one-lot subdivision to allow
construction of 42 condominium units on East Palm Canyon Drive between
Escoba Drive/Avery Drive, R-3 Zone, Section 24.
Planner III stated that the conditions had been reworded regarding
drainage fees.
Motion was made by Service, seconded by Allan, and unanimously carried
(D. Harris abstained) approving a second 12-month time extension for the
subject map subject to the following condition:
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• MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS/SECOND TIME EXTENSION - TTM 15463 (Cont'd. )
That the project be required to construct any adjacent improvements
per approved Master Plan of Flood Control and Drainage and/or pay
adopted drainage fees.
NOTE: The project was previously conditioned to construct the
adjacent storm drain improvements and to pay school fees.
SECOND TIME EXTENSION - TTM 15827. Request by HALLMARK ENGINEERING for Palm
Canyon Associates for a second 12-month time extension for a one-lot
subdivision for condominium purposes on East Palm Canyon Drive between
Seven Lakes Drive/Cherokee Way, R-G-A (8) Zone (I.L. ), Section 30.
Motion was made by Koetting, seconded by D. Harris, and unanimously
carried approving a second 12-month time extension for the subject map
with no new conditions recommended.
Tribal Council comments:
"After consideration of the recommendation of the Indian Planning Com-
mission, the Tribal Council approved the request for a second one-year
time extension for TTM 15827."
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Cont'd. )
CASE 3.292. Application by L. LAPHAM for G. McGlamary for revised elevations
for single family hillside residence on Mesquite Avenue, west of Belardo
Road, R-lA and W-R-lA Zones (I.L. ), Section 22.
Planner III gave a brief history of the project; stated that the Tribal
Council approved R-3 Zoning for the site; and that the project now incor-
porates one rental unit.
Motion was made by Allan, seconded by Koetting, and unanimously carried
approving the application subject to the following conditions:
1. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be met.
2. That the rock chimney be changed to stucco.
3. That a material sample board and written description of all
materials and manufacturers thereof be submitted.
4. That final landscape, irrigation and exterior lighting plans be sub-
mitted.
NOTE: Commissioner Service stated that he hoped that the owner of the
property had been advised that she was in a severe earthquake area with
the two-story height compounding the problem.
March 10, 1982 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES Page 13
• CONSENT AGENDA
The following items are routine in nature and have been reviewed by the
Planning Commission, AAC, and staff. No further review is required, and
all items are approved by one blanket motion upon unanimous consent.
Motion was made by Service, seconded by D. Harris, and unanimously
carried approving the following applications subject to all conditions of
staff, Development Committee and the AAC as follows and ordering the
filing of a Negative Declaration as indicated:
CASE 3.224 (Lots 26 & 27) . Application by M. SAUERS for architectural
approval of landscape plans for two single family, hillside residences
on Via Las Palmas between Abrigo Road/Ladera Circle, R-1 Zone, Section
10.
Approved as submitted.
CASE 3.272. Application by R. GREGORY for R. Olson for architectural approval
of landscape plans for single family hillside residence on Andreas Hills
Drive, south of Redford Drive, R-1-C Zone, Section 1.
Approved as submitted.
SIGN APPLICATION. Application by CHRISTIAN ASSOCIATES for Crown Book Store
for architectural approval of sign at book store in existing retail
• complex on Indian Avenue between Ramon Road/Baristo Road, C-B-D Zone,
Section 15. (Ref. Case 3.440. )
Conditions:
1. That the plexface match the color of the stucco.
2. That the letter cans match the color of the fascia (charcoal ).
3. That the size of the sign meet Sign Ordinance requirements.
(Abstention: Christian)
CASE 3.268. Application by H. KAPTUR for E. Babic for reconsideration of
color and type of roof tile for a 61-unit apartment/condominium complex
on El Mirador between Mel Avenue/North Indian Avenue, R-3 Zone, Section
11.
Condition: That the natural clay tile is approved.
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• CONTINUED ITEMS
DETERMINATION 10.320. Request by staff for Planning Commission determination
on acceptability of classic automobile sales being permitted as a main
use in the C-2 Zone.
Planner III stated that staff was comfortable with the revised definition
for classic car sales and recommended its adoption.
Discussion followed on the type of modification needed to the original
definition.
Chairman stated that the Commission was going to much effort to continue
the temporary uses of this property.
Discussion continued on whether or not the definition should be general
or definitive.
Commission Christian suggested that the second sentence in the original
definition after "25 years ." should have the words "or nearly fully
restored condition" added. He suggested further that a phrase be added
after "such vehicles" as follows: "that all above vehicles be in nearly
original condition". He stated that the ordinance does not intend to
allow a used car lot.
• Planner III stated that the Planning Director had requested continuance
to consider additional Commission input if the Commission desired.
Motion was made by Madsen, seconded by D. Harris, and unanimously carried
continuing the item indefinetly.
CASE 3.046 (Cont'd. ) Application by D. JUNG for M. Tupaz Assoc. for
architectural approval of revised landscape plans for 140 unit condo-
minum project on the northwest corner of Avenida Caballeros between
Ramon Road/Baristo Channel , R-2 Zane (I.L. ), Section 14. (Ref. TTM
10855)
Continued for receipt of a colored landscape plan.
ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA
CASE 3.490 (Minor). Application by H. CORDIER for architectural approval of
new carport and conversion of existing garage at 2425 Tuscan Road, R-1-B
Zone, Section 3.
Removed at the applicant's request.
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• ITEMS FOR RESTUDY
The following items were removed from the Planning Commission agenda
pending restudy. Application will be rescheduled for hearing only after
revised submittals have been processed.
CASE 3.304/TTM 15945 (Revised) . Application by J. COTTON for architectural
approval of revised elevations for four, 4-unit apartment on Avenida
Caballeros between Vista Chino/Cottonwood Road, R-2 Zone, Section 11.
Restudy of the parking area, elevations, and lack of overall continuity
of the structural connection and for submission of a preliminary land-
scape plan.
CASE 5.0144-PD-116 . Application by FREDRICKS/AFCOM for architectural
approval of revised site plan, elevations and landscape plans for Phase
I of modular housing project, PD-116, Section 35.
Restudy for plans more sympathetic to the desert climate; restudy in
solar control ; submission of an alternative roof plan on the side
elevation; submission of additional front elevations where the garages
are to be turned; and submission of revised site plan and landscape plan
if applicable.
CASE 3.403. Application by H. KAPTUR for Heathman-Hill Assoc. for
architectural approval of revised elevations for bank in professional
• condominium complex on Tahquitz-McCallum Way between Avenida
Caballeros/Hermosa Drive, C-1-AA & R-4-VP Zones (I.L. ) , Section 14.
Restudy of the east elevations and the beam elements overall proportion.
Tribal Council comments:
"The project is adjacent to the easterly boundary of the Tribal Cemetery.
In view of the possible visual impact on the Cemetery, the building
elevations and the site and landscaping plans were reviewed by the Indian
Planning Commission and the Tribal Council at the time of architectural
approval .
After consideration of the recommendation of the Indian Planning Com-
mission, the Tribal Council approved the revised elevations for the bank.
This approval is conditioned on the earlier agreement and understanding
with the applicant (Heathman-Hill Associated) that he will install and
maintain a landscape buffer at his expense on the Tribal Cemetery grounds
adjacent to the project if deemed necessary and so requested by the
Tribal Council at the time of a follow-up site inspection."
CASE 2.949. Application by B. Miller for architectural approval of revised
landscape plans for single family hillside residence on Southridge
Drive, R-1-A Zone, Section 25.
• Restudy for use of additional native trees; redesign of the pilaster
walls and beam elements; a detailed rendering of the proposed addition
and landscaping; and for scheduling of a field trip prior to further AAC
review.
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COMMISSION REPORTS, REQUESTS AND DISCUSSION
- Staff to investigate large banner for rummage sale on the former real
estate office at Cameron Center.
- Staff to investigate sale of used cars at the southwest corner of Sunrise
Way and Alejo Road.
NOTE: Zoning Enforcement Officer stated that it was a recurring problem
and code violations have been issued repeatedly.
Commissioner Service suggested that a recommendation be made to the City
Council that on certain identified properties which have become a chronic
problem, a blanket permission statement from the owner of the premises
will be requested by the Police Department to tow the cars away. Com-
mission concurred.
- Timeshare Ordinance in conjunction with timeshare projects under 12 units
to be discussed at the study session on March 18, at 3:00 p.m. in the
Large Conference at City Hall .
- Arrangements were made for transportation for Commissioners to the
City/County Conference at Mission Lakes on March 11.
• ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Chairman adjourned the
meeting at 4:40 p.m.
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