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Council Chamber, City Hall
February 24, 1982
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1981 - 1982
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to date
Michael Harris, Chairman X 13 3
Carrie Allan X 14 2
Richard Service X 14 2
Paul Madsen X 14 2
Darel Harris X 14 2
David Christian X 13 3
Peter Koetting X 15 1
Staff Present
Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director
Douglas Evans, Planner III
Carol VanKeeken, Technician
Dave Forcucci , Zoning Enforcement Officer
Mary L. Isenberg, Recording Secretary
• Architectural Advisory Committee Present - February 22, 1982
Larry Lapham, Chairman
Peter Koetting
James Cioffi
Chris Mills (alternate)
David Hamilton
Earl Neel
David Christian ( interim)
Absent: Hugh Kaptur
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
Approval of Minutes
Minutes of the February 10, 1982 meeting, were unavailable because of processing
delay during the two-day City holiday and will be reviewed at the March 10, 1982
meeting.
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• PUBLIC HEARINGS
CASE 5.0212-CUP & 6.319-VARIANCE & TTM 17899. Application by E. WILLIAMS (Watt
Industries) for a CUP to allow construction of a 7-unit timeshare/condo-
minium project and a variance from rear yard setback and timeshare
location requirements on the southeast corner of Arenas Road/Tahquitz
Drive, R-2 Zone, Section 15.
(Commission response to written comments on draft Negative Declaration,
action for filing, and final approval . No comments received.)
Planning Director presented a brief review of the project and stated that
staff would recommend a two week continuance to address concerns of the
AAC regarding elevations of the project.
Chairman declared the hearing open; there being no appearances, the
hearing was continued to March 10 for further review and action.
CASE 6.320-VARIANCE. Application by F. APPOLLO for a variance from rear and
side yard setbacks to allow existing carport and free standing open patio
cover as built at 795 N. Patencio Road, R-1-A Zone, Section 10.
(This action is categorically exempt from environmental assessment, per
CEAQ. )
• Chairman declared the hearing open; there being no appearances, the
hearing was continued to March 24, 1982 at the applicant's request.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
The following persons spoke in opposition to the proposed street name change
from Murray Canyon Drive to William Demarest Drive or Demarest Drive (Case
11.15):
J. Kreeger, 1680 Murray Canyon Drive, stated that although Mr. Demarest should
be honored, a street name change would cause inconvenience to the residents of
the street because of changing of addresses, stationary, credit card
addresses, bank accounts, investments, etc. He stated that there are unnamed
streets behind the Canyon Hotel which could be named Demarest Drive without
affecting anyone.
E. Kieley, 1800 S. Sunrise Way, President of the Board of Directors of the
P.S. Historical Society, stated that the Society had passed a resolution in
objection to the street name change since the name is an historical one in the
community; that Palm Springs landmarks are rapidly disappearing; that the
Historical Society is currently surveying historical sights for registration;
and that the Canyons will be included in this category. She requested that
• the Murray Canyon Drive name be retained and another street chosen to be named
William Demarest Drive.
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. PUBLIC COMMENTS (Cont'd. )
Mrs. E. Kreeger, 1680 Murray Canyon Drive, stated that it would be a hardship
for residents of the street to reprint literature and stationary; that the
Canyon Hotel has an address on South Palm Canyon Drive and would not be
affected by the street name change; that the members of the Canyon Country
Club should be able to have a voice in any proposed name change; and that many
years from now the name of William Demarest would not be recognized but that
Murray Canyon is an established historical name.
W. McNary, 1800 S. Sunrise Way, stated that Mr. Demarest should be honored by
a street name because of his contributions to the community but that changing
of an historic name such as Murray Canyon Drive would set an undesirable pre-
cedent; that Palm Springs is just beginning to take its history seriously;
that the renaming of such a street would show an official lack of interest in
the history of the City; and suggested that an unnamed street would be a
better recipient of the William Demarest name; and requested that the past be
honored.
Mrs. L. Schlecht, 1500 Murray Canyon Drive, stated that the street is
scheduled to extend through Smoke Tree which is longer than the proponents of
the name change have indicated; that changes to proper names are confusing and
humorous and suggested that an unnamed street behind the Canyon Hotel become
William Demarest Drive since she would not want to see the pioneer name of
Murray lost.
• The following person spoke in favor of the street name change:
C. Rhodes, 2370 Yosemite Drive, past President of Canyon Country Club, William
Demarest Classic Board Member, and representative of petitioners in favor of
the name change, stated that the street length was not long and there are no
residences on the south side; that the Canyon Hotel Manager has taken a
neutral position on the name change; and requested that Herbert Bernstein's
name be removed from the petition since there is a disagreement between Mr. &
Mrs. Bernstein regarding the name change. He then described William
Demarest's contributions to and accomplishments for the City of Palm Springs;
stated that no one remembered Mr. Murray but everyone knew Mr. Demarest; that
there was a precedent for changing street names to proper names since it had
been done in the case of two former mayors of the City. He then read a letter
from the Palm Springs Boy's Club approving the proposed street name change
since Mr. Demarest's charities have contributed much money to the Club. He
stated that the proponents of the change will furnish change of address cards
to all those persons affected.
In reply to a question by Commissioner D. Harris, Mr. Rhodes stated that Mr.
Demarest does not know about the proposal since he is in poor health and does
not read the newspapers but that he was sure he would be delighted.
Chairman explained that there would be no rebuttal to objections to the street
name change. Planning Director stated that the item was on the agenda for the
Commission to adopt a resolution of intention to hold a public hearing at a
future date in accordance with the Municipal Code; that no public testimony
should be taken at the meeting; and that the public hearing would be published
and posted. In reply to a question by Commissioner Service, Planning Director
stated that the resolution is an intent to consider only and must be adopted.
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• PUBLIC COMMENTS (Cont'd. )
D. Hacker, Hacker Engineering, 714 Eugene Road, representing Heltzer Enter-
prises regarding a time extension for TTM 17260, stated that he was present to
answer questions.
TENTATIVE TRACT AND PARCEL MAPS
Planning Director reviewed and explained the map and the Planning Com-
mission discussed and took action on the following tract map based on the
finding that the proposed subdivision, together with the provisions for
design and improvement, are consistent with the General Plan of the City
of Palm Springs. A Negative Declaration has been ordered filed based on
the finding that the project will not have a significant adverse effect
on the environment and subject to conditions as outlined.
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP 18216. Application by HACKER ENGINEERING for Ichi
Associates for approval of a subdivision of land for condominium conversion
purposes on the northwest corner of E. Palm Canyon Drive/Sagebrush Road, R-3
Zone, Section 23.
(This action is categorically exempt from environmental assessment, per
CEQA. )
• Planner III presented a staff report; stated that an addendum had been
added regarding notification of tenants of the proposed timeshare pro-
ject; and that the applicants meet all City requirements.
Motion was made by Allan, seconded by Madsen, and unanimously carried
approving TTM 18216 subject to all recommendations of the Development
Committee and with the additional condition regarding tenant
notification.
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION OF INTENTION. Planning Commission adoption of
resolution of intention to change street name from Murray Canyon Drive to
William Demarest Drive or Demarest Drive, Section 35 (Case 11.15).
Chairman stated that there were three choices: adoption of the
resolution; non-adoption of the resolution; and continuance.
Planning Director gave a brief history of the case and stated that more
than 60% of the lessees of property along the lineal frontage of Murray
Canyon Drive have signed a petition in favor of the street name change as
well as the Indian owners of all the parcels; that the resolution would
be an intent to consider the adoption based on the petition with an
obligation to hold a public hearing; that the process is outlined in the
Municipal Code; that a public hearing would be held on March 24. He
described the process; and stated that the notice would be published and
posted.
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• MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS/ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION OF INTENTION (Cont'd. )
Chairman stated that there evidently was not a great deal of choice and a
public hearing was mandatory.
Further discussion followed regarding the public hearing process required
by a street name change request.
Motion was made by Service, seconded by Allan, and unanimously carried
adopting a resolution of intention to consider a street name change from
Murray Canyon Drive to Demarest Drive or William Demarest Drive at a
public hearing on March 24, 1982.
DETERMINATION 10.320. Request by staff for Planning Commission determination
on acceptability of classic automobile sales being permitted as a main use in
the C-2 Zone.
Planning Director stated that in the previous review at the February 10
meeting, a question had arisen as to the definition of a classic car and
that a definition has been developed as follows:
Classic Automobile Sales shall mean an automobile dealer
specializing in vehicles generally at least 25 years old which are
• in original or fully restored condition. Sales may include special
interest automobiles manufactured within the last 25 years, such as
convertibles, custom manufactured vehicles, newly manufactured
replicas and other vehicles generally shown to be increasing in
value based on regularly published price guides for such vehicles.
Classic Automobile Restoration Garage shall mean the same as
"Garage, Repair".
He stated that "Garage, Repairs" are allowed in the C-2 Zone under
Conditional Use Permit and that if further conditions were to be imposed,
an ordinance revision would be necessary. He gave a brief description of
the legislation of other cities regarding classic car sales.
Discussion followed on the possibility that a precedent might be estab-
lished which would allow used car sales.
Commission also discussed criteria for the condition of classic cars and
previous requests to allow the sale of classic cars.
Planning Director stated that the consideration is a generic one and not
a site specific one.
Commissioner Christian suggested that reasonable wording such as "cars in
showroom condition" might be used to avoid allowing used car sales.
Further discussion ensued on types of conditions that can be enforced.
Planning Director stated that if a determination were made allowing
classic sales, they would be subject to the standards of an automobile
sales agency which are adequate; that staff would support the sale of
classic cars since they are a tourist attraction and bring revenue to the
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• MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS/DETERMINATION 10.320 (Cont'd. )
City; and that the ordinance requires annual review of car rental
agencies.
Price guideline publications were discussed. Planning Director stated
that these booklets are published quarterly; are helpful in establishing
guidelines for classic vehicles; and that staff was not proposing to
allow used car lots.
Discussion followed on the definition of a classic car. Planning
Director stated that standard conditions with standard terminology should
be formulated.
Motion was made by Christian, seconded by Allan, and unanimously carried
continuing the item to the March 10 agenda for final wording by staff for
the determination.
TIME EXTENSION - TTM 17260 (Ref. Case 3.378) . Request by WAGNER STANFORD
CONSULTANTS for Heltzer Enterprizes for a 12 month time extension for TTM
17260, a subdivision of land for condominium purposes on Golf Club Drive be-
tween Bolero Drive/E. Palm Canyon Drive (I.L. ) , Section 29.
• Motion was made by Madsen, seconded by Koetting, and unanimously carried
approving a 12 month time extension for TTM 17260 with no additional con-
ditions.
NOTE: The project was previously conditioned for drainage fees and
school impact fees.
Tribal Council comments:
"Staff report and/or recommendations on this item were not received by
the Tribal Planning Consultant.
After consideration of the recommendation of the Indian Planning Com-
mission, the Tribal Council approved the request for a first one-year
time extension for TTM 17260."
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS
The Planning Commission reviewed plans, discussed, and took action on the
following items involving architectural approval subject to the
conditions as outlined.
CASE 3.489 (Minor). Application by M. BUCCINO FOR Canyon Villas Homeowners '
Assoc. for architectural approval of revised perimeter wall plan at 2600 S.
. Palm Canyon Drive, R-2 Zone, Section 35 (Ref. Case 2.609).
Discussion ensued regarding the wall , grade, height, and location.
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• ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS/CASE 3.489 (Cont'd. )
Motion was made by Christian, seconded by Allan, and unanimously carried
approving the application subject to the following conditions:
1. That the masonry wall be higher in all instances than the wrought
iron fencing.
2. That all grade changes occur at the same time that a material
transition occurs i .e. , where a wall adjoins the wrought iron
fencing.
3. That the wall not exceed 4z feet in height from the existing grade.
NOTE: The AAC recommended the following regarding perimeter security
plans for all multi-family developments:
The AAC reached a consensus and recommends that all proposed multi-family
developments (condominiums and apartments) be required to design and
submit detailed perimeter security plans at the time of project approval .
The AAC felt that the installation should not be a mandatory requirement
placed upon the developer, but that the initial design should be con-
sidered at the time of architectural approval of the project. Basis for
this recommendation is the difficulty homeowners' associations have en-
countered in dealing with such an undertaking and that fact that initial
. site development may in many circumstances dictate future design of such
walls. Staff would note that a Zoning Ordinance amendment and/or
Security Ordinance amendment would be necessary prior to initiation of
such a requirement upon new applications.
SIGN APPLICATION. Application by N. ANENBERG for Palm Springs Oil Co. for
architectural approval of revised plans for gasoline price signs for
businesses at 400 S. Indian Avenue, C-2 Zone ( I.L.), Section 14; and 670 S.
Palm Canyon Drive, C-2 Zone, Section 23.
Chairman abstained; Vice-chairman presided.
Planning Director gave a brief review of the sign application and stated
that the AAC recommended approval by a 7 - 0 vote at its February 22
meeting.
Commissioner Christian stated that he had voted against the sign appli-
cation even though it was not indicated in the AAC minutes.
Commissioner D. Harris stated that it was his opinion that the top of the
pole should not be lowered.
Planning Director stated that the AAC had recommended a yellow background
• for the service station logo. Commissioner Koetting explained that the
AAC felt that the brown trim and can and separation of the colors was
aesthetically helpful .
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• ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS/SIGN APPLICATION (Cont'd. )
Commissioner Christian explained that he had voted against the sign be-
cause it had a poor graphic content. He stated that a sign could
easily be designed more attractively.
Commissioner Allan stated that she would have to rely on the judgment of
the professionals on the AAC.
Discussion ensued on the planter represented on the rendering. Planning
Director stated that there is an unraised planter on the Shell station
but no planter on the Mag station.
Commissioner Service stated that the sign meets the letter of the ordi-
nance but is unattractive.
Motion was made by Allan, seconded by Madsen, and carried (Christian &
Service dissented) approving the sign application for both locations sub-
ject to the following conditions:
1. 400 South Indian Avenue -
A. That the top of the pole be lowered to the height of the sign
top and cap.
B. That the metal can and cross support be dark bronze in color.
• 2. 670 South Palm Canyon Drive -
That the metal can and cross support be dark bronze in color.
NOTE: Planning Director stated that a monument sign had been explored
for the stations but that they created communication, visibility, and
sight distance problems; and that designing a sign initially is better
than redesigning an existing sign.
SIGN VARIANCE 8.217. Application by IMPERIAL SIGN CO. for Gene Autry Hotel
for sign variance on revised plans for directional convenience sign on the
southwest portion of the property at 4200 E. Palm Canyon Drive, PD-58, Section
30 (Ref. Case 5.927-PD-58) .
Zoning Enforcement Officer presented the sign on the display board.
Discussion followed on the size of the sign and its visibility from East
Palm Canyon Drive. Planning Director stated that approval of the ten
foot convenience sign constitutes a sign variance and that there are no
established grounds for a variance other than the existence of a unique
condition.
. The representative of Imperial Sign Co. explained that the variance was
requested for better visibility and to identify the hotel as the Gene
Autry Hotel since there are no vehicle entrances on East Palm Canyon
Drive.
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• ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS/VARIANCE 8.217 (Cont'd. )
Discussion followed on positioning of the sign. The representative of
the sign company stated that the application was for a single-faced sign,
not a double-faced one.
Planning Director stated that in a corner condition, staff would recom-
mend elimination of signs where possible. Discussion followed on the
size and type of the sign proposed.
Motion was made by Service, seconded by Allan, and unanimously carried
approving Sign Variance 8.217 as submitted.
SIGN APPLICATION. Application by HEATH AND COMPANY for Liquor Barn for
architectural approval of sign for business located in the Safeway market at
350 S. Palm Canyon Drive, C-B-D Zone, Section 15.
Zoning Enforcement Officer presented the sign on the display board.
Discussion ensued on the appropriateness of the "Warehouse Prices"
portion of the sign.
Commissioner Allan stated that this type of wording will establish a pre-
cedent.
Planning Director stated that the City Attorney feels that content of a
sign cannot be controlled since it could be an incorporated name but
staff has discouraged this type of wording; that liquor stores are
allowed in the C-B-D Zone; and that the Commission could eliminate the
offensive wording but would probably not receive support from the City
Attorney.
Discussion followed on precedents established such as the signs for
"Repeat Boutique" and "Discount Duds".
Commissioner Allan stated that if the business is a warehouse, it should
be located in that type of zoning but that the wording is offensive in
the building's present location.
Chairman commented that it could be part of a title as a fictitious name.
Planning Director stated that the words "Liquor Barn" will be illuminated
from behind but not the words "Warehouse Prices"
Commissioner Service stated that he would not vote for the sign as pro-
posed since it is an affront to the downtown businessmen and community.
Motion was made by Christian, seconded by D. Harris, and carried (M.
• Harris dissented) approving the sign application subject to the following
conditions:
1. That the alternate plan with free-standing letters is approved.
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• ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS/SIGN APPLICATION (Cont'd. )
2. That there be a dark bronze metal can on each individual channel
letter.
3. That there be a dark bronze metal can on the free-standing logo.
4. That the logo be reduced in size to the height of the capital
letters.
5. That the words "Warehouse Prices" be deleted.
6. That the face be plexiglass #2380 rust with a flat finish.
CONSENT AGENDA
The following items are routine in nature and have been reviewed by the
Planning Commission, AAC, and staff. No further review is required, and
all items are approved by one blanket motion upon unanimous consent.
Motion was made by Madsen, seconded by Service, and unanimously carried
approving the following applications subject to all conditions of staff,
Development Committee and the AAC as follows and ordering the filing of a
• Negative Declaration as indicated:
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 18373. Application by L. ZEHFUSS for L. Schwartz for
approval of a division of one parcel into three on the northwest corner of Via
Donna/Paseo El Mirador, R-1-AH Zone, Section 11.
(Commission response to written comments on draft Negative Declaration.
No comments received. )
Condition:
1. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be met.
2. That all mitigative measures identified in the environmental
assessment/initial study be implemented.
CASE 3.268. Application by R. GREGORY for E. Babic for architectural approval
of landscape plans for a 61-unit apartment/condominium complex on El Mirador
between Mel Avenue/North Indian Avenue, R-3 Zone, Section 11.
Conditions:
1. That the easterly parking areas be restudied for the addition of
trees between the carports and the property line.
• 2. That the proposed trees for the bay parking landscape projection be
replaced with carobs (minimum 24" boxes) or alternate.
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CONSENT AGENDA/CASE 3.268 (Cont'd. )
3. That the bay parking areas be constructed with decorative paving.
Materials and design shall be approved by staff prior to instal-
lation.
4. That shrub materials be added at the top of the mound along Indian
Avenue to facilitate a visual buffer between the parking areas and
the street scene.
5. That 80% of all street trees be 24" boxes or greater in size.
6. That swales and/or an alternative solution be provided to reduce
overflow of landscape irrigation on the sidewalks, streets, and
other hardscape features.
7. That the proposed Celotex Marby roof tiles are not acceptable.
(Alternative materials to be submitted for AAC approval . )
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS (Cont'd. )
CASE 3.491 (Minor) . Application by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS for architectural
approval of a photovoltaic solar array on City property behind City Hall ,
• Section 13.
Planning Director presented the staff report and explained that the City
would provide the grading, pad, and the security fencing around the pro-
ject.
Commissioner D. Harris suggested that wood slats be incorporated into the
chain link fencing for a softening effect. Discussion followed on the
appropriateness of the wood slats. Consensus was that the slats break
and rattle in the wind and that landscaping would be more effective.
Commissioner Service suggested that the City place the solar array on
airport land which would provide more security and cost less.
Planner III stated that location was discussed at the AAC meeting and
that it was felt that it should be close to City Hall to provide the City
with solar power; that it was too heavy to place on the City Hall roof;
and that it would be in place for three years.
Commissioner D. Harris suggested that if wood were not used, vinyl strips
or a painted fence would have a softening effect.
Discussion followed on the feasibility of a wood slatted fence and land-
scaping of the area.
• Motion was made by Christian, seconded by Madsen, and unanimously carried
approving the photovoltaic solar array application subject to the
following conditions:
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ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS/CASE 3.491 (Cont'd. )
1. That a security chainlink fence be installed.
2. That landscape materials be provided to reduce the aesthetic impacts
of the fence and the array.
NOTE: Commissioner Service suggested that the City consider a solar farm
on the airport in the future.
SIGN APPLICATION. CONTINENTAL ADVERTISING for Smith's Food King for
architectural approval of a main sign for a market in a neighborhood shopping
center at the southeast corner of North Palm Canyon Drive/Racquet Club Road,
PD-113. Section 13 (Ref. Case 5.0127-PD-113).
Chairman abstained; Vice-chairman presided.
Discussion ensued on the number of abstaining Commissioners.
Motion was made by Allan, seconded by Madsen, and unanimously carried
(Christian, Koetting, D. Harris & M. Harris abstained) approving the sign
application subject to the following condition:
. That the sign color match the existing Smith's sign located at the
Sunrise Square shopping center.
ITEMS FOR RESTUDY
The following items were removed from the Planning Commission agenda
pending restudy. Application will be rescheduled for hearing only after
revised submittals have been processed.
CASE 3.438-Revised. Application by P. KOLODEJ for architectural approval of
revised plans for a single family hillside residence at 2111 Leonard Road, R-
1-A Zone, Section 3.
Restudy of the elevations and site plan.
CASE 2.984-Revised. Application by R. MOUNT for architectural approval of
revised plans for perimeter wrought iron fence for condominium project on
Vista Chino between Via Miraleste/N. Indian Avenue, R-3 Zone, Section 2.
Restudy for submittal of a comprehensive wall development plan including
grading, landscaping, wall and parking details and full street
elevations.
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ITEMS FOR RESTUDY (Cont'd. )
CASE 3.304/TTM 15945-Revised. Application by J. COTTON for architectural
approval of revised plans and map for four, 4-unit apartments on Avenida
Caballeros between Vista Chino/Cottonwood Road, R-2 Zone, Section 11.
Restudy noting the following concerns:
1. That solar control on the east/west/south elevations be provided.
2. That the beam element within the patio area be a rough sawn glue-lam
beam.
3. That the parking court area be restudied to soften the appearance
via an architectural and/or landscape element.
4. That a revised preliminary landscape plan be submitted.
COMMISSION REPORTS, REQUESTS AND DISCUSSION
Planning Director introduced the new Planning Technician, Carol
Vankeeken, who has 13 years of experience in planning and engineering.
• Planning Director suggested that the Commission consider the AAC comments
regarding perimeter security fencing.
Planning Director stated that action had been taken to remove the outside
electronic game machines at Brandy's in the downtown area.
Planning Director stated that registration had been made for the Com-
missioners for both the City/County Conference and the C-VAG Conference.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Chairman adjourned the
meeting at 3:30 p.m.
PLANNING DIRECTOR
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