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Council Chamber, City Hall
January 13, 1982
1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL F-Y 1981 - 1982
Present Present Excused Absences
Planning Commission This Meeting to Date to date
Michael Harris, Chairman X 10 3
Carrie Allan X 12 1
Richard Service - 11 2
Paul Madsen X 11 2
Darel Harris X 11 2
David Christian X 10 3
Peter Koetting X 12 1
Staff Present
Marvin D. Roos, Planning Director
Thomas E. Lynch, Housing Administrator
Michael Dotson, Planner I
Douglas Evans, Planner III
Mary L. Isenberg, Recording Secretary
Architectural Advisory Committee Present - January 11, 1982
Peter Koetting, Acting Chairman
Hugh Kaptur
James Cioffi
Chris Mills (alternate)
David Hamilton
Earl Neel
Absent: Larry Lapham, portion of meeting (Chairman), Paul Madsen
Chairman called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
Approval of Minutes
Minutes of the December 23, 1981 meeting, draft distributed, were unanimously approved.
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NOTE:The Tribal Council had no comments regarding items on the agenda.
CASE 5.0175-GPA-B (Cont'd.). Initiation by the CITY OF PALM SPRINGS for approval of
amendment to the General Plan Land Use Plan as follows:
Change "Open (Parks & Recreation)" to "Commercial Manufacturing" for property
located between Bogie Road/San Luis Rey/Ramon Road, northerly to City limits,
Section 17; and
CASE 5.0160-CZ. Application by MAINIERO, SMITH for Golden West Equity Properties
for CZ from "O" to "CM" or such other zones as the Commission may find appropriate for
Ramon Road between Bogie Road/San Luis Rey, 0 Zone, Section 17.
Planning Director updated staff report including findings and recommendations and
described two exhibits prepared by staff showing open space and land use. He
stated that staff would recommend M-I-P standards. He also noted that there were
problems with the property with environmental impacts which will require unusual
conditions and that a zone change would remove the ability to condition the
property. He stated that mitigative measures would have to be done with the
development plans and noted that the City might not be successful in some
mitigative measures regarding open space needs and off site improvements in the
area. He stated that staff and the task force reviewing industrial standards feel
that industrial standards are appropriate to portions of the site and that the
applicant has not submitted specific plans for the property since he has indicated
that no specific plan will be developed until zoning is established.
• Chairman declared the hearing open.
J. Schlecht, 801 Tahquitz-McCallum Way, representing the applicant, stated that
he had the feeling that the matter has not reached the conclusion requested by the
City Council since he felt that the open space issue no longer exists and that the
City Council requested a General Plan change and appropriate zoning not neces-
sarily the C-M Zone. He stated that the northerly and easterly portion of the
property can be addressed at the time specific maps are submitted, and that the
Zoning Ordinance has appropriate setback safeguards and mitigative measures for
the adjacent residential area. He noted that there was no specific user of the
property at the present time and requested that some decision be reached
regarding the entire site relative to the Zone Change and the General Plan
Amendment.
In reply to a question by Chairman, Mr. Schlecht stated that the applicant finds the
planned development district (PD) process unworkable since specific plans must be
submitted for a planned development district.
B. McDonald of Golden West Equity Properties, the applicant, stated that a PD
would not be suitable since there are no users. He stated that there are 40 acres to
be developed and that he has no idea of the types of users for the property. He
requested one type of zoning only and reiterated that a PD is not suitable. He
stated that the staff report indicates that staff would prefer no zone change until
the industrial standards are revised but that the appliation was submitted a long
time ago and a decision should be made.
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Chairman commented that the task force to revise the industrial standards was
formed to benefit the entire community and not just the applicant's project.
In reply to a question by Chairman, Mr. McDonald stated that a PD would be
suitable only if users had been found for the property but that the PD should not be
for the entire 40 acres at one time.
Discussion followed on the speculative nature of the proposal. Mr. Schlecht stated
that the applicant wanted to be able to sell lots to prospective users who would
then apply to the City for development.
Chairman stated that it was not the intent of the Commission to eliminate this
type of proposal.
Mr. Schlecht requested that the applicant be given the same consideration on his
land that development on Indian land receives.
Planning Director stated that a PD application could be made which included lot
sales. He reviewed major developments which created a plan by which lots could
be logically subdivided. He stated that to subdivide industrial property without a
master plan did not insure an integrated project and that staff was sensitive to the
inequities between the Indian and non-Indian land. He stated that once land is
subdivided, it cannot easily be reformed and that the present M-1-P standards are
not strong enough which is the basis for the staff recommendation for a PD. He
noted that staff could live with M-1-P Zoning on a portion of the property.
. Further discussion followed on similar development using a PD approach.
Mr. McDonald reiterated that he was not in favor of a PD.
There being no further appearances, the hearing was closed.
Commission discussion: Discussion followed on the M-1-P Zoning, the viability of
the PD procedure, the lack of a specific plan for the property and whether or not
the M-1-P standards should be revised for more control
Planning Director stated that the "good faith" negotiations requirement had not
been addressed at the present time, but that the staff recommendation was in
response to the unfinished industrial standards and the fact that the project had
been processing for a lengthy time.
Chairman stated that Commission should consider a change in the General Plan to
designate the frontage area as industrial and leave the interior northerly and
easterly portions of the site in the 110" designation.
Planning Director described the PD procedure for the 40 acres. He stated that all
that need be developed in the preliminary stage is a circulation system and perhaps
Phase I of the property, and that standard requirement could be established for
development of the property.
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Planning Director described the mixing of densities under a PD. He explained that
the purpose of the PD is to allow the frontage areas to develop as industrial with
the property adjacent to residential zones and overlaying the area impacted by
uncompacted fill to be left in an open classification to accommodate buffers and
non-buildable areas because of the unusual conditions of the site.
Planning Director explained the methodology of the PD to achieve the intent of the
General Plan and explained that the planned district application in-lieu of a change
of zone had been done in about 30 of the 130 planned development applications
approved by the City.
Discussion followed on the action to be taken.
Motion was made by Christian, seconded by Allan, and unanimously carried (Service
absent) approving GPA 5.0175-B per staff recommendations as follows:
1. That industrial uses be incorporated for the frontage along Ramon Road and
Bogie Road.
2. That there be no change to the interior northerly and easterly portions of
the site.
3. That appropriate amendments be made to the Open Space Conservation and
Safety/Seismic safety elements.
Motion was made by Madsen and seconded by Allan to change zoning from "0" to
"M-1-P" in the area along Bogie and Ramon Roads with the "0" Zoning to remain in
the other areas. The vote was as follows:
AYES: Allan, Madsen
NOES: Christian, Koetting, D. Harris, M. Harris
ABSENT: Service
The motion was defeated.
Motion was made by Christian, seconded by D. Harris, and carried (Service absent;
Madsen dissented) to allow the "0" Zoning to remain with any submittal to be based
on the General Plan amendment and developed as a planned development district
under M-1-P Standards.
CASE 5.0189-PD-133 & TTM 17759 (Cont'd.). Application by CHRISTIAN ASSOC. for
J.Mayer for approval of a PD and tentative tract map for conversion of existing non-
conforming apartments to condominiums at 2003 Desert Park Avenue, R-1-C Zone,
Section 1.
(This action is categorically exempt from environmental assessment, per CEQA.)
(Commission Christian abstained.)
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Commission discussion: A request was made of staff to provide information on the
number of vacancies impacts of tenant displacement and whether or not there was
a shortage of rental units in the proposed price range.
Commission consensus was that no action could be taken because of lack of
information, and that a written report would be necessary with information
included as to what income would be targeted in the proposal.
Chairman continued the hearing for 60 days (based on tenant notification) and with
the application to be renoticed.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
W. Kleindienst, 1301 N. Palm Canyon Drive, requested that exterior structures such as
swimming pools, porches, and patios be deleted from the definition of building coverage
since they enhance the exterior development and allow creative freedom in controlling
the environment.
TENTATIVE TRACT AND PARCEL MAPS
Planning Director reviewed and explained the maps and the Planning Commission
discussed and took action on the following tract and parcel maps based on the
finding that the proposed subdivision, together with the provisions for design and
improvement, are consistent with the General Plan of the City of Palm Springs. A
Negative Declaration has been ordered filed based on the finding that the project
will not have a significant adverse effect on the environment and subject to
conditions as outlined.
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP 18136. Application by F. ONYS for J. McDonough for approval
of conversion of commercial properties to industrial condominiums on Vella Road between
Sunny Dunes Road/Mesquite Avenue, M-1 Zone, Section 19.
(This action is categorically exempt from environmental assessment, per CEQA.)
Motion was made by Madsen, seconded by Koetting, and unanimously carried
(Service absent) approving TTM 18136 subject to all recommendations of the
Development Committee.
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP 18196. Application by F. ONYS for J. McDonough for approval
of conversion of commercial rental properties to industrial condominiums on Williams
Road, south of Sunny Dunes Road, M-1 Zone, Section 19.
(This action is categorically exempt from environmental assessment, per CEQA.)
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Motion was made by Madsen, seconded by Koetting, and unanimously carried
(Service absent) approving TTM 18196 subject to all recommendations of the
Development Committee.
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
SECOND TIME EXTENSION(TPM 12937). Application by HALLMARK ENG. for Sands
Motel & Sands, Ltd. for a 12 month time extension for a 2-lot subdivision to divide
existing hotel from vacant property on N. Palm Canyon Drive between Vista Chino/Via
Escuela, C-1 & R-3 Zones, Section 3.
This item was removed from the agenda since the final map has been recorded.
DETERMINATION 10.318. Request by staff for Commission review of definition of
building coverage in R-1 Zones as it relates to covered porches, patios, etc.
Planning Director stated that there was an inconsistency in the Zoning Ordinance
relating to building coverage in the R-1 Zone and presented the staff report. He
stated that the AAC had suggested approximately a 50% limitation be placed on
roof areas with which staff is not completely in accord without further study. He
noted that staff feels that the coverage should be calculated on the footprint,
including garages, and not on open structures.
Commission discussion: Discussion followed on the AAC recommendations, illegal
structures, zoning enforcement, AAC recommendations, inclusion of determination
in the Zoning Ordinance, overhangs and ramadas, limitation of building coverage,
and lack of ordinance requirements for AAC approval of single family residences.
Motion was made by Christian, seconded by Allan, and unanimously carried (Service
absent) determining that maximum allowable building coverage be calculated based
on the living area, including garages, with no specific restrictions regarding
exterior structures such as patios, swimming pools, gazebos which are open on at
least two sides and overhangs.
DISCUSSION. Planning Commission discussion of electronic game arcades regarding
location, number and overall City policy.
Planning Director stated that the staff has received numerous requests for
establishment of amusement arcades, and that staff has made the determination
that up to four machines can be allowed as an accessory use although no action has
been taken regarding this by the Commission. He then reviewed the history of
amusement arcades in the City and stated that staff would not recommend action
at the meeting in order to allow staff to present a determination at the February
11 meeting stating that amusement arcades be allowed as an accessory use with a
• limitation of four machines. He stated that the machines have become more
sophisticated in the last few years and that one place where they had been placed
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in the past was Fairchild's Golf Course who removed them of their own accord. He
stated that the arcades were not addressed completely enough in the Zoning
Ordinance.
Commission discussion: Discussion ensued on amusement arcades in locations such
as hotels. The establishment of arcades under CUP provisions, supervision of users
and maintenance of the equipment and control of operating hours.
Lois Schlecht, 1500 Murray Canyon Drive, replied to a question by Chairman,
stating that some establishments in other areas have the arcades at the present
time and that they are maintained and supervised, and that there might be some
location where they could be tried in the City.
Planning Director stated that staff would update research on amusement arcades
and present a staff report at the February 11 meeting.
ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL ITEMS
CASE 3.457. Application by CHRISTIAN ASSOC. for Creative Financial Corp. II for
architectural approval of luxury hotel complex on S. Palm Canyon Drive, C-1 Zone,
Section 23.
(Commission response to written comments on draft Negative Declaration and action for
filing. No comments received.)
Planning Director presented a brief history of the project and gave directions for
Commission action.
Planner III presented the application on the display board and explained that an
AAC concern was the function of the area for service facilities such as trash
location.
He stated that there was a minor code problem regarding parking on the south side
and that the AAC felt that there was also a massing problem.
D. Christian, the architect, explained the trash area location on the display board.
Commission discussion: Discussion continued regarding the trash area location and
truck movement. Planner III stated that the AAC requested the details of the
preliminary format before working drawings were submitted. Planning Director
explained that working drawings would be presented showing hard elevations and a
site plan prior to the addition of details and stated that staff was comfortable with
giving approval subject to conditions as outlined and with the condition that
approval was subject to the further approval of the next phase of drawings. He
stated that the Commission should voice any concerns on revisions at the meeting.
Discussion followed regarding the type of hotel and the fact that one of the AAC
members had voted against it because of concerns with the massing, the continuity
between the various elements, and incomplete drawings.
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Motion was made by Koetting, seconded by D. Harris, and unanimously carried
(Service absent; Christian abstained) approving the application subject to the
following conditions:
1. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be met.
2. That all mitigative measures identified in the environmental
assessment/initial study be implemented.
3. That detailed preliminary working drawings be submitted.
4. That detailed preliminary landscape/site development plans be submitted at
a scale which provides sufficient detail for a comprehensive review of the
project.
5. That final approval of the project is subject to approval of the preliminary
working drawings.
6. That upon approval of the working drawings and preliminary landscape/site
development plans, final landscape, irrigation and exterior lighting plans be
submitted.
7. That a Negative Declaration be filed.
CASE 3.481 (Minor). Appliction by CITY OF PALM SPRINGS for architectural approval
of expansion of parking lot at Everybody's Village located between N. Palm Canyon
Dr./N. Indian Ave. at Alejo Road, "O" Zone, Section 10. (Ref. Case 2.439.)
Planning Director and Planner III presented the proposed parking lot expansion on
the display board.
Commission discussion: Discussion followed on alternative parking, adjacent
parking, and tree type and transplantation.
Motion was made by Madsen, seconded by Koetting, and unanimously carried
(Service absent) approving the application subject to the following conditions:
1. That existing trees which may be displaced due to the parking lot addition
be transplanted elsewhere on site or incorporated into the parking lot.
2. That a detailed landscape, irrigation and exterior lighting plan be submitted.
3. That all recommendations of the Development Committee be met.
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iCASE 3.306. Application by D. CHRISTIAN for approval of revised architectural details
and revised site plan for office building located at 1276 N. Palm Canyon Drive, C-1 and
R-3 Zones, Section 10.
Planning Director stated that the originally approved plan has been altered and
that these revisions were discovered during an inspection of the site. He stated
also that the paving was not as originally approved.
Motion was made by D. Harris, seconded by Madsen, and unanimously carried
(Service absent; Christian abstained) approving the application subject to the
following condition:
1. That a wrought iron element be installed on the southerly elevations.
2. That a revised landscape and decorative paving plan be prepared and
resubmitted for architectural approval.
CONSENT AGENDA
The following items are routine in nature and have been reviewed by the Planning
Commission, AAC, and staff. No further review is required, and all items are
approved by one blanket motion upon unanimous consent.
• Motion was made by Madsen, seconded by Christian, and unanimously carried
(Service absent) approving the following applications subject to all conditions of
staff, Development Committee and the AAC as follows and ordering the filing of a
Negative Declaration as indicated:
SIGN APPLICATION (Ref. Case 5.0128-PD-107). Application by DESERT ISLE ASSOC.
for architectural approval of main sign as built for hotel-condominium complex on E.
Palm Canyon Drive, R-3 & R-G-A (6) Zones, Section 25.
Condition: That the letters be placed six inches from the inset face of the wall (the six
inches to be measured to the back of the letters).
CASE 3.452. Application by D. LEVY for J. Zarowitz for approval of working drawings
for single family residence at 563 Fern Canyon Road, R-1-A Zone, Section 22.
Approved as submitted.
SIGN APPLICATION. IMPERIAL SIGN CO. for Gene Autry Hotel for architectural
approval of main sign for hotel complex at 4200 E. Palm Canyon Drive, PD-58, Section 30.
(Ref. Case 5.927-PD-58.)
Approved as submitted.
• CONTINUED ITEMS
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i CASE 5.0144-PD-116 (Cont'd.). Application by FREDRICKS/AFCOM for architectural
approval of site plan, elevations, and landscape plans for Phase I of modular housing
project, PD-116, Section 35.
Continued pending submission of revised plan.
ITEMS FOR RESTUDY
The following item was removed from the Planning Commission agenda pending
restudy. Application will be rescheduled for hearing only after revised submittals
has been processed.
SIGN VARIANCE 8.217. Appliction by IMPERIAL SIGN CO. for Gene Autry Hotel for sign
variance for directional convenience sign on the southwest portion of the property at 4200
E. Palm Canyon Drive, PD-58, Section 30 (Ref. Case 5.927-PD-58).
Restudy for general overall size and bulk and for materials and graphic sign.
ADJOURNMENT
• There being no further business to discuss, Chairman adjourned the meeting at 4:17
p.m.
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