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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1977/03/09 - MINUTES ,PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES Council Chamber, City Hall March 9, 1977 1 :30 p.m. ROLL CALL Fiscal Year 1976 - 1977 Present Present Excused Absences Planning Commission This Meeting To Date To Date Vyola Ortner, Chairman x 16 1 Carrie Allan x 5 0 Stephen Chase x 14 3 Sig Ehrens - 16 1 Michael Harris x 4 0 Larry Lapham x 17 0 John Wessman x 10 7 Staff Present Richard J. Smith, Director of Community Development John A. Mangione, City Planner Marvin D. Roos, City Planning Associate Suzanne Erickson, Engineering Gloria Fiore, Recording Secretary Architectural Advisory Committee - March 7, 1977 John Miller, Chairman Richard Harrison Hugh Kaptur Earl J. Neel Laszlo Sandor Chairman called the meeting to order at 1 :35 p.m. Approval of Minutes: The Planning Commission Minutes of February 23, 1977, drafts distributed, were unanimously approved. March 9, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES Page 2 PUBLIC HEARINGS CASE 5.986-PD-71 - Application by AFFILIATED PROPERTIES for a Planned Development District to construct an office complex and residential apartments with recreational facilities on property situated on the east side of Farrell Drive between Tahquitz-McCallum Way and Baristo Road, P Zone, Section 13. Action on draft Negative Declaration. City Planner reviewed the boundaries of the 37 acre parcel advising that there were two major changes on the revised plans, namely that the applicants had decreased the amount of square footage originally proposed in the professional section and while increasing the amount of area being devoted to residential use had decreased the unit count from 264 to 209. The original .and revised plans were presented and explained as was a map that had been prepared by the applicants indicating, to the best of their knowledge, the phasing of the project. It was noted that while the open space areas on the overall plan were very well planned, the Architectural Advisory Committee was still concerned with the amount of streets and driveways devoted to the residential area, and that with the "circle" type of arrangement, people entering and leaving would be driving on a semi-blind corner at all times. He reported that since the Architectural meeting, the applicants' had prepared another plan where they had taken out a portion of the streets that bisected the central area, and that since the new plan would have to be reviewed by both the Archictural Advisory Committee and the Development Committee, Staff was recommending a continuance. He noted, however, that input should be received from the applicants and anyone else who wished to speak.. Chairman declared the hearing open and the following persons spoke from the audience: Richard R. Oliphant, 7790 Avenue of the States , associated with Affiliated Properties, advised that they had attended the Architectural Advisory Committee Meeting and that as a result had attempted to interpret and incorporate the input received from the Committee on the plans that had just been submitted. He noted that the original plan had shown a three- quarter circle and that at no time had the Committee commented on or criticized that particular element; that the circle was an excellent concept as it would tend to slow traffic as opposed to long straight streets, and that the line of sight from an automobile at any point would be three hundred feet which represented almost a City block. He explained the parking concept noting that two cars for every unit could be parked under the structures with additional parking for guests available in the driveways that appeared on the plans to be "Large white blank spaces" , he advised that in most cases there was ample space for planting trees, etc. , and, in addition, the driveways were of concrete which would offer a different composition from the asphaltshown on the streets. He reviewed the changes made to the tennis court area, noting that a park had been created. He asked that the Commissoners consider the plan that was being presented and requested input from them. k``' There being no further appearances, the hearing was closed. March 9, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES Page 3 PUBLIC HEARINGS - Continued U CASE 5.986-PD-71 - Continued Commissioner Chase observed that the revised plan was an improvement basically because of the decrease in the number of units and the addition of the garage areas. After being advised by the applicant that this would be a closed community with a gate, he indicated that the circle did not seem objectionable, it would slow the traffic and did add interest to the project. Commissioner Lapham asked whether the Traffic Engineer had had in opportunity to review the revised plans, noting that there were many openings onto the circle and that one of the problems might be dis- orientation because of constantly turning to the right or to the left. In addition, with reference to the phasing plan, he observed that only about one-half of the circle would be in phase one and questioned what might happen if the applicants decided not to proceed with the project as proposed, as it would be a difficult situation to correct. The Commissioners agreed that input should be received from the Traffic Engineer. This item was continued to the March 23, 1977 Planning Commission Meeting. * * * * * * * * * * s, March 9, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES Page 4 PUBLIC HEARINGS - Continued CASE 6.294 - A lication b P. TYNBERG for a Variance on property line wall at east side front Via Norte frontage on property situated on the west side of Via Norte between Vista Chino and Via Sol , R-1-A Zone, Section 10. Commissioner Allan abstained from discussion and voting on this item. Commission response to written comments on draft Negative Declaration: No comments received. City Planner presented the Staff report which contained the background leading to this application. He advised that he had made a field trip, not only to the site, but the surrounding area as well and cited addresses where similar types of walls existed primarily because of the slope of the land. The requirements of the Zoning Ordinance were ex- plained. A photograph of the wall in question was viewed by the Com- missioners and City Planner read four letters in favor of the wall , and one letter outlining a compromise solution into the record. The recommendations of the Architecural Advisory Committee were reviewed and findings presented, and the Commission was advised that Staff recommended approval , subject to the Committee's recommendations. Chairman declared the hearing open and the following persons spoke from the audience: Peter Tynberg, the applicant, reviewed the various discussions and meetings that had taken place both prior to and after the installation of the wall . He advised that during the past week some planting had been done against the wall on the Via Norte side and that a ground cover had been planted along the east side. He referred to and commented on the letter that had been received outlining a compromise solution. He asked that the Com- mission approve the variance on the property line wall . Dr. Williams, 373 Via Sole, advised that he wanted to go on record as having no objection to the Tynberg wall . He too noted that there were other homes in the area with the same type of topography and walls that ran seven to eight feet above the crown of the road. He stated that it seemed to be unjustified to request someone to alter an expensive wall that had received approval , and he asked that the Commission act favorably on the application. Del Reese, 1550 Via Norte, speaking in opposition, advised that he was the gentleman who had written the letter outlining a compromise solution. He explained that his house was lcoated directly across from the Tynberg property. He noted that the adjustment he had suggested was slight and would represent very modest financial outlay. He advised that whatever decision was made by the Commission would be agreeable to him but that his suggestion for a little contouring would make a better looking wall and bring it closer to Code requirements. March 9, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES Page 5 PUBLIC HEARINGS - Continued �-' CASE 6.294 - Continued J. Hollomon, 1577 Via Norte, speaking in opposition, presented photo- graphs of the wall , noting that there was a pile of unsightly rocks placed on the property line by Dr. Tynberg. He referred to corres- pondence to and from the City Manager and Director of Community Development and read excerpts from the Director's letter. He related conversations that he had with the Chief Building Inspector and voiced his dislike and opposition to the wall . There being no further appearances, the hearing was closed. Commissioner Wessman, after looking at the photographs, stated that the place should be cleaned up and the rocks removed. He noted that this was not the only lot in the area where the street sloped faster than the property line and that he would not be opposed to granting the variance providing the applicant was required to plant some type of bush and present detailed landscape plans. Chairman advised that she concurred that the pile of rocks should be removed, and that if the variance were approved with a condition for landscaping, it should also contain irrigation plans. Commissioner Chase agreed that, if approved, there should be a require- ment for more mature plants on the landscape plans because what had already been planted would take too long to cover the wall . Following discussion, .motion was made by Harris, seconded by Chase, that a Negative Declaration.be_ filed and approving the application for a variance based on the following findings and subject to the following conditions: FINDINGS: 1 . That because of the existing topography of the property in question, a strict interpretation of the method of measurement for perimeter walls as outlined in the Zoning Ordinance, would deprive this property of the ability to provide reasonable privacy from the Via Norte side of the lot. 2. The granting of this variance would not constitute a grant of special privilege since other properties in the vicinity have walls greater than the height limit as measured under ordinance provisions and since this type of variance would be considered for other properties in the vicinity under similar circumstances. 3. The granting of this variance would not be materially detrimental to the public health, safety, welfare, or injurious to properties or improvements in the neighborhood. 4. The granting of this variance would not adversely affect the General `� Plan of the City. March 9, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES Page 6 PUBLIC HEARINGS - Continued CASE 6.294 - Continued CONDITIONS: 1 . That the pile of rocks existing on the property line is to be removed. 2. That detailed landscape and irrigation plans are to be submitted for approval . AYES: Ortner, Chase, Harris, Lapham, Wessman NOES: ABSENT: Ehrens ABSTAINED: Allan March 9, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES Page 7 PUBLIC HEARINGS - Continued CASE 5.999 - Application by SECURITY PACIFIC NATIONAL BANK (Agents for aci is Southwest Rea I Ly Co. ) for Conditional use Permit to expand existing parking facilities on property situated on the west side of Calle Ajo, between Ramon Road and Camino Parocela, R-2 Zone, Section 23. Commission response to written comments on draft Negative Declaration: No comments received. City Planner presented the Staff report containing background and history of the bank at its present location, a statistical breakdown, site condition, findings and recommendation for approval of the use subject to revisions to the layout that would maximize the amount of landscape buffer between the parking and the street. He advised that the Architectural Advisory Committee had reviewed the item and also recommended approval subject to the condition that detailed landscape and irrigation plans be submitted and that the specimen trees on the site should be saved wherever possible. Chairman declared the hearing open and the following person spoke from the audience: Mr. Frank Gilbert, a representative from Security Pacific National Bank, advised that the proposed changes to the landscape plans had ..-a been reviewed and that they agreed to the changes. He stated that their intention was to eventually eliminate certain parking along the south side of the drive-up facility in order to get cars off of Indian Avenue and, in reply to a question by Chairman, acknowledged that in the future they did anticipate doing some expansion to the building that would provide for another drive-up window and would add stack up spaces for automobiles. Mrs. Wilson, 568 Calle Ajo, informed the Commission that she had lived in the neighborhood for 31 years and while she had no objection to the additional parking, she was concerned about the drive that ran from Indian Avenue through to Calle Ajo as there were many cars that cut through that drive onto Calle Ajo. She objected to having both ingress and egress out of that drive, stating that it would be a hazard for the people in the area. She asked why they could not have the cars enter on Ramon Road or go out on Ramon Road from Indian Avenue. Ted Taylor, 575 Calle Ajo, suggested that if the bank were permitted to have two-way traffic in and out on Calle Ajo, the areas from Ramon Road to the new drive should be either controlled or patrolled by the City so that the automobiles would not be in the way. He stated that he did not know whether it should be red zoned but that there should be some sort of control so that the cars would have to stop before entering Calle Ajo so that the pedestrians would be able to see the vehicles. ' There being no further appearances , the Chairman declared the hearing closed. March 9, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES page g i PUBLIC HEARINGS - Continued CASE 5.999 - Continued Commissioner Chase stated that he thought the best solution to the problem would be to red curb the area from Ramon Road down to the drive as that would enable pedestrians to see any cars, whereas they would not be able to if cars were permitted to park along the street and, in addition, that would insure that the bank's employees would use the parking facility being provided for them. With reference to ingress or egress onto Ramon Road, he observed that the drive would be too close to an intersection and would create an even more critical problem, particularly for cars trying to make a left turn. Commissioner Lapham commended the bank for acquiring the property to increase their parking, as the number of vehicles parking on Calle Ajo created a dangerous situation. City Planner advised that the Commission could, if they desired to do so, indicate- restricted parking along the curb side and that Staff sould have the Traffic Engineer check to make sure that it would not cause any problems. In addition, he advised that the Commission could indicate to the bank that they change their policy of not permitting their employees to park in the bank's parking lot and that the bank should instruct the employees to use the lot being provided. Mr. Frank Gilbert advised that the bank had always had a policy of not allowing employees to park on the bank's parking lot and, in fact, instructed them not to park there or on the street adjacent to the building. Lengthy discussion ensued regarding the banks policy and the Commissioners agreed that they had been under the impression that the additional parking was being provided for bank personnel so that the parking on Calle Ajo would be alleviated, and that if this were not so, they would not be in favor of permitting an outlet onto that street. They were advised by City Planner that the bank had never indicated that the parking would be for employees but that Staff had so indicated in the report. The Commissioners indicated that they were not in favor of the expansion of the parking facilities and possibly the loss of mature trees on this project, or any project, that would not relieve the situation on Calle Ajo. Commissioner Lapham advised that he would like to make a motion to grant the Conditional Use Permit for parking, on the condition that the City line the curb from the ingress, egress of the bank, north to Ramon Road and that the bank's employees be discouraged from parking on such a small residential street. Motion died for lack of a second. March 9, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES Page 9 PUBLIC HEARINGS - Continued CASE 5.999 - Continued The Commissioners discussed in detail red lining curbs in front of single family homes, restricted parking, using the drive onto Ramon Road for ingress and egress, and whether or not a condition could be imposed instructing the bank to change its policy regarding employee parking. They were advised by the Director of Community Development, relative to the Commission's reluctance to impose a condition regarding the bank's parking policy, that if they wanted that condition they should impose it as a condition on the permit, and that at a later date should it be evident that the condition had been violated it would be grounds for revocation or reconsider- ation of the Conditional Use Permit. Following discussion, motion was made by La ham, seconded by Chase, and unani ly carried ( Ehrens absent ), that a Negative Declara- tion be 4iled, and granting the Conditional Use Permit, based on the following findings and subject to the following conditions: FINDINGS: 1 . That the proposed parking use is property one for which a Conditional Use Permit is authorized by Section 9209.01-C 4a of the Zoning Ordinance. 2. Such a use is desirable in the development of the community, is in harmony with the various elements and objectives of the General Plan and is not detrimental to neighboring residential and commercial uses. 3. The site is adequate in size and shape to insure that a park- ing facility can be developed and still be adequately buffered from adjoining residential properties. 4. The major effect that this project would have on streets would be to relocate certain curbside parking to an on-site parking lot and as such improve the circulation on CaHe Ajo. CONDITIONS: 1 . That all requirements of the Development Committee be met. 2. That revisions to the layout that maximize the amount of landscape buffer between the parking and the street be followed. 3. That detailed landscape and irrigation plans are to be submitted. 4. That the specimen trees existing on the site are to be saved wherever possible. 5. That the bank shall not direct their employees to park any- where other than on bank property, and that the curb on the Vrgst side of Calle Ajo, from the driveway to Ramon Road is to be painted red. March 9, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES Page 10 ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT ITEMS TENTATIVE TRACT MAP 9115 - Environmental Assessment on request by KWL ASSOCIATES, representing Vanton Development Company,for approval of Tentative Tract Map 9115 dividing 7.14+ acres into 21 lots, R-1-C Zone, Section 24. Commissioner Wessman abstained from discussion and voting on this item. City Planner presented the map and explained the layout of the 21 lots involved. He advised that the map showed there was a slight variance in the standard of the lots as they were 89 feet in depth instead of the 100 feet required in this particular zone, and explained that the reason for this was because, in working with staff, the developer could not work out an equitable circulation plan. It was noted, however, that although all but two of the lots were 11% substandard in depth, they had been increased in width so that they met the 10,000 sq. ft. reggirement. The Environmental Evaluation was reviewed and the summary comment from that evaluation was read intotthe record. The following was received from the Tribal Council : "The Tribal Council , in accordance with the recommendations of the Indian Planning Commission, finds no impact on the environment, other than proximity to the Tahquitz Flood Plan." Following discussion, motion was made by Lapham seconded by Allan, and unanimously carried (Wessman abstained, Ehrens absent), that a draft Negative Declaration be prepared for this item. CASE 5.0002-PD-73 - Environmental Assessment on application by R. GRUNDT (for One Hundred Eleven, Inc. ) for a Planned Development District to con- struct 42 single story condominium units and related recreational facilities on property situated on the west side of Highway 111 , between La Reina Way and So. Cerritos Drive, R-3 Zone, Section 24. City Planner presented the staff report containing the background, statistical breakdown, analysis, site condition and street system. The environmental Evaluation was reviewed and the summary comment from that evaluation was read into the record. The Commission was advised that staff was recommending the preparation of a draft Negative Declaration. The following was received from the Tribal Council : I'The Tribal Council , in accordance with recommendations of the Indian Planning Commission, finds no evident adverse environ- mental impact from the proposed development. " Following discussion, motion was made by Chase,seconded by Harris, and unanimously carried (Ehrens absent), that a draft Negative Declaration be prepared for this item. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * March 9, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES Page 11 TENTATIVE TRACT AND PARCEL MAPS: City Planner reviewed and explained the maps and the Plannin Com- mission discussed and took action on the following Tentative Tract and Tentative Parcel Maps, based on findings and subject to conditions as outlined. Commissioner'Chase left the meeting at this time. TENTATIVE TRACT MAP 9317 - Request by KWL ASSOCIATES, representing P.S. Country Club, for approval of Tentative Tract Map 9317, being a sub- division of a portion of the northeast 1/4 of Section 1 . Commission response to written comments on draft Negatige Declaration. No comments received. Motion was made by Allan, seconded by La ham, and unanimously carried (Ehrens and Chase absent) recommending approval of Tentative Tract Map 9317,and the filing of a Negative Declaration. FINDING: That the proposed subdivision, together with the provisions ; ; for its design and improvement is consistent with the General Plan of the City of Palm Springs and will not have a signifi- cant adverse affect on the environment. CONDITOON: That all requirements of the Development Committee be met. Commissioner Chase returned to the meeting at this time. March 9, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINTUES Page 12 �-- TENTATIVE TRACT AND PARCEL MAPS - Continued TENTATIVE TRACT MAP 9205 - Request by WEBB ENGINEERING, INC'., representing U.S.A. and Desert Dorados, Inc., for approval of Tentative Tract Map 9205, dividing 37.0+ acres into 108 lots, R-2 and R-I-C Zones, Section 2. Commissioners'Harris and La ham abstained from discussion and voting on this item. Commission response to written comments on draft Negative Declaration... No comments received. The following was received from the Tribal Council : "The Tribal Council in accordance with recommendations of the Indian Planning Commission, finds no evident adverse environmental impact from the proposed Tract." Motion was made by Wessman, seconded by Allan, and unanimously carried, (Ehrens absent, Harris and Lapham abstaining , R6 0mmending approval of Tentative Tract Map 9205 and the filing of a Negative Declaration. FINDING: That the proposed subdivision, together with the provisions for its design and improvement is consistent with the General Plan of the City of Palm Springs and will not have a signifi- cant adverse effect on the environment. CONDITION: That all requirements of the Development Committee are to be met. March 9, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES Page 13 ..� TENTATIVE TRACT AND PARCEL MAPS - Extensions of Time TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 7581 - Request by HALLMARK ENGINEERING, INC., repre- senting MAX E. HAYWARD, for a six month extension of time on Tentative Parcel Map 7587, for property located on the north side of Ridge Road west of Mesa Drive, R-1-C Zone, Section 27. Chairman left the meeting at this time and Vice Chairman Lapham chaired the following item. City Planner advised that this map represented a subdivision of an existing six parcels of property on the north side of Ridge Road into four lots, and that the map had been approved March 24, 1976. He noted that the request was being made as the final map had not as yet been recorded. In reply to questions by Commissioner Allan he explained the ordinance requirements relative to extensions of time and advised that this was the first extension requested for this map. Following discussion, motion was made by Chase, seconded by Allan, and unanimously carried (Ehrens and Ortneer absent) recommending approval of a six month extension of time on Tentative Parcel Map 7587. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Chairman returned to the meeting at this time. TENTATIVE TRACT MAP 6069 - Request by HALLMARK ENGINEERING, INC. , represent- ing JOHN WESSMAN, for a six month extension of time on Tentative Tract Map 6069 (revised) for property situated on the north side of Escoba Drive (extended), R-1-C Zone, Section 19. Commissioners Harris and Wessman abstained from discussion and voting on this item. City Planner explained that this map represented 32 single family sub- division lots a portion of which, although within the tract boundaries, had been eliminated because of being within the flood plane area. He advised that the request was being made as the final map had not as yet been recorded, and that this map also had been approved in 1976. The Commission was advised that staff recommended that the extension be granted subject to all previous conditions. Following discussion, motion was made by Chase, seconded by La ham, and unanimously carried ( Ehrens absent, Harris and Wessman abstain- ing) recommending a six month extension of time for Tentative Tract Map 6069,sub3ecttto all previous conditions. March 9, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES Page 14 Public Comments: None. Discussion Items: City Planner explained that the Planning Commission considered amend- ments to the General Plan three times a year and that the first meet- ing in March would be the first time that new items could be brought to the Commission's attention for the purpose of setting a date for public hearings. He reported that one of the items of concern was the Belardo crossover at the north end of the downtown area which the DDAC was recommending be eliminated from the General Plan, while the other item was the elimination of Jacaranda Road as a collector street from the General Plan because of right of way problems and the low volume of traffic carried by the street. The Commission was advised that if they wished to proceed with the amendments to the General Plan the date of April 27 could be set for the public hearings. Following discussion, staff-was instructed tonnotice both items for the Planning Commission meeting of April 27, 1977. March 9, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES Page 15 The Planning Commission reviewed plans, discussed and took a tion on the following items involving Architectural Approval , subject to the conditions as outlined. Commissioner Lapham left the meeting at this time. CASE 2.919 - Application by C.C.C. DEVELOPMENT for Architectural Approval of plans for construction of a 20 unit condominium project to be located on the west side of Avenida Caballeros between Alejo Road and Amado Road, R-G-A (8) Zone, Section 14. Motion was made by Chase, seconded by Allan and unanimously carried (Ehrens and Lapham absent) approving this application subject to the following conditions: 1 . That detailed colors and materials are to be submitted for approval . 2. That detailed landscape, irrigation, exterior lighting and tennis court lighting plans are to be submitted for approval . Commissioner Lapham returned to the meeting at this time CASE 5.955 - Application by J. D. WRATHER, JR., for Architectural Approval of roof material , detailed colors and materials, landscape and irriga- tion plans for Elmer's Colonial Pancake House, northeast corner of Deepwell Road and East Palm Canyon Drive, R-3 Zone, Section 23. Motion was made Lapham, seconded by Chase, and unanimously carried (Ehrens absent) approving this application subject to the following conditions: 1 . That Washingtonia Filifera be substituted for Washington Robusta where used near the building. 2. That the deciduous trees in the rear parking area are to be deleted and evergreen type of trees, e.g. , Olive Carob, etc., are to be used. Commissioner Wessman left the meeting at this time. March 9, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES Page 16 Architectural Approval Items — Continued SIGN APPLICATION - Application by 1ST WISCONSIN NAT'L BANK OF MILWAUKEE for Architectural Approval of sign The Smoke Tree Racquet Club to be located at 1655 East Palm Canyon Drive, R-3 Zone, Section 26. Commi,ssoners Harr.ig, :and Wessman abstained from discussion and voting on this item. Motion was made by La ham, seconded by Chase, and unanimously carried (Ehrens absent, Harris and Wessman abstaining), approving this item as submitted. CASE 2.892 - Roquest by J. WESSMAN (Carl 's Jr. Restaurant) for clarification of Planning Commission decision of February 23, 1977, denying architectural details of proposed restaurant. Commissioners Harris and Wessman abstained from discussion and voting obi this item. City Planning Associate advised that since the applicant had not been present at the last meeting when the Commission had denied the appli- cation as it related to the particular site in question, he wished to be heard to discuss the Commission's intentions and reasoning behind its action. Chairman reviewed the background leading to the Planning Commission decision. Reese Moneyhun, 1200 E. Harbor Boulevard, Anaheim, advised that he was the real estate director for Carl 's Jr. Restaurants. He stated that it was unfortunate that they had not been made aware of the Commission's dissatisfaction with the project. He stated that he would like to hear the views and objections that had been expressed relative to the building. Commissioner Chase noted that the building was on a predominant corner and although the building being presented was an improvement over the Carl 's Jr. standard type of building it still was not acceptable at that particular location. He stated that some relatively minor improvements could be made to the building which would not require redrawing and sug- gested that perhaps it could be approved separately from the existing building. The Commissioners and Reese Moneyhun discussed the possibility of an outside eating area, or patio area, and they were advised by City Planner that they did have the ability for an additional 225-feet of eating area, based on the parking for the entire development, but that a patior would exceed that figure. • March 9, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES Page 17 Architectural Approval Items - Continued CASE 2.892 - Continued Mr. Moneyhun pointed out that it would be impossible to attach anything to the building because of the stress and strain and asked whether it wouldpbanpbtsibl,e Ito.?incorporate some type of patio cover in the landscape plans and, if so, what would be acceptable. After discussing with City Planner the possibility of incorporating the patio area into the landscape deheme, the Commissioners advised Mr. Moneyhun that they would like to see rough sawn heavy beams and posts coming out of the lower facia that would give the building more of a "carriage" look. Followihig discussion, motion was made by Chase, seconded by Allen, and unanimously carried (Ehrens absen't, :Wessman�and Harris abstain- ' ing) approving this application subject to the following conditions: 1 . That all conditions of the previous approval of this application are to be followed. 2. Teat landscape and irrigation plane inoorporating a patio area,, are to be submitted for approval . Commissioner Wessman returned to the meeting at this time. CASE 2.885 - Application by H. FRANK for Architectural Approval of colors and materials of wall and security gate details for property located at 238 North Palm Canyon Drive, Section 15. City Planning Associateaddvised that before the remodeling of this building had beenccompleted there had been two modifications which had not appeared on the plans or been approved. He presented the materialsused for the top of the will and a photograph showing the security gates, explaining that the gates were only closed at night. He advised that the Architecural Advisory Committee had reviewed the two items and had recommended approval subject to the security gates being painted a Medium brown to match the stain. The Commissioners discussed the fact that both of the items under consideration had been done without submission or approval , that the security gates looked very much like the type used for thatppnppose at First and Main Streets and really did not belong on North Palm Canyon Drive. T1by inquired whether the DDAC had reviewed these items and were advised that it had not. They discussed the possible reasons for wanting anyfitype of security gate at all and were advised by City Planning Associate that the applicant wished to avoid people loitering or groups making use of the area after hours. Different types of enclosures were reviewed and the Commission agreed that some type of wood, folding, sliding or collapsible shutters should be used. They agreed that the cap on the wall should be changed to something more conventional and that the security gates should be eliminated. March 9, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES Page 18 Architectural Approval Items - Continued CASE 2.885 - Continued It was suggested that if the applicant found the need for security gates, different types should be submitted for review and approval . Following discussion, motion was made by Chase, seconded by Harris, 4nd unanimously carried (Ehrens absent) denying the applicatTen and requesting that it be referred to the Downtown Development Advisory Committee for review and input. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * CASE 2.911 - Application by H. LAPHAM for Architectural Approval of revised plans for construction of apartment complex to be located at the corner of Highway 111 , Broadmoor Drive and extension of Waverly Drive, Section 29. Commissioner Lapham abstained from discussion and voting on this item. Motion was made by Wessman, seconded by Chase, and unanimously carried (Ehrens absent) Ira ham 'abstain'i'nga.'approv ng this-Lappltbat'foh subject tol,the1ollowing conditions: 1 . That the connecting plaster beam and wall detailed be revised and approved by staff. 2. That detailed landscape and irrigation plans be submitted for approval . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * CASE M15 - Application by J . WALLING (Wadsworth Storage Building) for rchitectural Approval of �61ors and materials, landscape and irrigationpoaans for storage building, M-1 Zone, Section 19. Motion was made by Chase, seconded by Allen, and unanimously carried (Ehrens absent) approving detailed colors and materials as submitted, and recommending a restudy and resubmitsion of landscape and irriga- tion plans. CASE 2.925 - Application by J. L. ELKINS for Architectural Approval of Phase II, addition of 64 unit apartment to 64 units now under con- struction at 1268 East Ramon Road, Section 14. Motion was made ky Lapham, seconded by Chase, and unanimously'carried (Ehrens absent) approvteng this application subject to the changes as noted on the plans. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * March 9, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES Page 19 Architectural Approval Items - Continued CASE 2.928 - Application by L. SANDOR for Architectural Approval of plans for Chase/Foster hillside residence on Stevens Road, R-1-A Zone, Section 10. Commissioner Chase abstained from discussion and voting on this item. Motion was made by Lapham, seconded by Allan, and unanimously carried (Fhren9na�b$bnt)a4�pproving this application subject to detailed colors and materials being submitted for approval . CASE 2.930 Application by d E='BROWN4N'INC.for Architectural Approval of plans for construction of 8 unit apartment project to be located on Olancha and Via Soledad, R-2 Zone, Section 23. Motion was made by Chase, seconded by Harris, andranan§md)b$1yapprried (Ehrens absent) approving this application subject to the following conditions: 1 . That the mass at various corners be increased as noted on the plans. 2. That detailed colors and materialsbbe submitted. 3. That detailed landscape and irrigation plans be submitted. _CASE 2.931 Application by JAMES E. BROWN, INC., for Architectural Approval of plans for construction of 8 unit apartment project to be located on Sunrise Way, R-2 Zone, Section 13. Motion was made by Lapham, seconded by Chase, apdv,unanmausly carried (Ehrens absent), approving this application buoj-ett to detailed land- scape and irrigation plans being submitted. SIGN APPLICATION - Application by E. PASTY (representing John Whit4n ) for Architectural Approval of a sign to be located at 166 North Sunrise Way. Motion was made by Chase, seconded by Allan, and unanimously carried, ( Ehrens absent), approving this application subject to the deletion of the antique gas pump. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * March 9, 1977 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES Page 20 Architectural Approval Items - Continued °ram. CASE 2.934 - Application by J. HORWITZ and E. HARBISON for Architectural Approval of plans for construction of hillside residence at 2490 Araby Drive. Motion was made by Chase, seconded by Harris, and unanimously carried (Ehrens absent), approving this application subject to the following conditions: 1 . That the roof color be changed from black to medium brown. 2. That detailed grading and laddscope plans be submitted for staff approval . 3. That the underside of the structure is to be finished. The following items were continued to the Planning Commission Meeting of March 23, 1977. CASE 5 0001 PD-72 - Environmental Assessment on application by J . WESSMAN for a Planned Development District to construct a medical office complex on the south side of Tachevah, between Via Miraleste and Avenida Palos Verdes, R-1 Zone, Section 11 . `-` CASE 2.932 Application by LAUREL OIL COMPANY for Architectural Approval of remodel of exterior of existing building with slumpblock, frooeyit)y located at 670 S. Palm Canyon Drive, and request for approval of free standing sign. The following items were removed from the Planning Commission Agenda pending restudy. CASE 2 924 Application by L. S. MILLER for Architectural Approval of plans, colors and materials for construction of an apartment complex on Arenas Road, R-3 Zone, Section 15. CASE 2.927 Application by J. B. BARRINGER (representing Bob's Big Boy) for Architectural Approval of plans to construct a Bob's Big Boy Restaurant on the northwest corner of North Palm Canyon Drive and West Stevens Road, C-1 and R-3 Zones, Section lo. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * There being no further business the meeting was adjourned at 5:45 p.m. l %20ji"l CITY PLA ER JAM/gvf