HomeMy WebLinkAboutNon Agenda ItemFrom:Jeffrey Bernstein
To:City Clerk
Subject:FW: Blue Zones and Pacaso
Date:Wednesday, May 17, 2023 11:11:43 AM
Jeffrey Bernstein
Mayor Pro Tem, Councilmember
City of Palm Springs
cell: 442-305-9942
Jeffrey.Bernstein@palmspringsca.gov
City Hall is open Monday –Thursday, 8 a.m. – 6 p.m. and closed on Fridays.
From: Peter Sipkins <sipper1@me.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2023 8:50 AM
To: Jeffrey Bernstein <Jeffrey.Bernstein@palmspringsca.gov>
Cc: Kate Castle <k8castle@yahoo.com>; robert farran <BobFarran@yahoo.com>; Denise Goolsby
<Denise.Goolsby@palmspringsca.gov>
Subject: Blue Zones and Pacaso
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Good morning Mayor Pro Tem:
After a NORG annual meeting last night where the ONE-PS representative noted our tentative
position on Blue Zones, a concerned neighborhood resident sent Chris Ruetz an email, which I attach
in its entirety. I am forwarding it on to you for your information and possible sharing with the
council. Also, for your information, Geoff Kors asked Denise yesterday for our Board position
statement on Pacaso. I believe she provided it to Geoff.
Coincidentally, we drove through Albert Lea on the drive back to Minneapolis this weekend. It is
Minnesota’s most southern community, just across the border from Iowa, and it is a very rural
farming, conservative small city. Based upon our lunch in that city and the surprising number of
smokers we saw, I’d suggest they need more than Blue Zones to make it a livable city!
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Peter Sipkins
"YIKES! I just did some research on Dan Buettner and his Blue Zones BS! This is truly “Stepford
Wives” bunk—and it would be just another scam propped up by bogus “science” if it weren’t so
creepy and costly. The religious undertones are especially worrisome. Many longevity studies have
been done using religious cults (Adventists, Mormons, Catholic nuns) and the results are
questionable at best.
I cannot believe that our city council would buy into this kind of snake oil. Does our
city council really think that PS would eschew alcohol, rich restaurant meals, and other
delightful “vices” and that our tourists would embrace such a fad? I’m actually
embarrassed that our council is even considering this. This is an important issue that
doesn’t seem to be on the local radar. Time to remedy that, methinks!
Oh, and Dan Buettner is from my hometown (Minneapolis/St.Paul) and he got a couple
Minnesota cities to buy into his program. I’ve been to Albert Lea MN, and no way are
they paragons of health and longevity. Albert Lea is next door to Austin MN,
headquarters of Hormel—makers of SPAM! Ironic, much?
Here’s one article I came across, debunking some Blue Zone claims:
https://www.acsh.org/news/2022/01/25/national-geographics-blue-zone-philosophy-
science-or-common-sense-16078
And shame on National Geographic for apparently endorsing this BZ BS!
Thanks for letting me vent, "
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From:Christy Holstege
To:City Clerk
Subject:Fwd: Pacaso Fractional Home Ownership
Date:Monday, May 15, 2023 9:50:38 AM
Attachments:Pacaso.html
Christy Gilbert Holstege, Esq.
Councilmember
District 4
City of Palm Springs
Begin forwarded message:
From: Jim Ardery <jimardery@gmail.com>
Date: May 14, 2023 at 9:30:16 AM PDT
To: grace.graner@palmspringsca.com, Jeffrey Bernstein
<Jeffrey.Bernstein@palmspringsca.gov>, Ron deHarte
<Ron.deHarte@palmspringsca.gov>, Christy Holstege
<Christy.Holstege@palmspringsca.gov>, Lisa Middleton
<Lisa.Middleton@palmspringsca.gov>
Subject: Pacaso Fractional Home Ownership
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Dear City Council Members,
I have owned property in Palm Springs for over 24 years. My current home is at
350 N. Via Las Palmas in the Old Las Palmas Neighborhood. I have been in my
home for 23 years. I have seen the neighborhood change throughout my 23
years here. Starting with the passing of Jackie Lee and Jim Houston, who were
wonderful neighbors. Since then our neighbors have changed but have always
been respectful and great neighbors. We have of course the occasional loud
party and busy season, not to mention the Houston's wonderful fund
raising events. We however are not interested in living next door to a multi-
family, multi-unknown neighbor ! The idea of waking up each day not knowing
what to expect from your neighboring home is unsettling to say the least. The
reason I live in a "R-1 Residential" neighborhood is to have peace and quiet and
an expectation of knowing that will be the norm. If this were to happen, then I
would think seriously about moving out of Palm Springs. All of our values would
decline, as we would have to disclose to a new buyer that we live next door to a
revolving door home, much like living in a Commercial Zone with a motel next
door. Newport Beach just dealt with this situation, and included Fractional
ownership to be in the same category as a timeshare. I've attached an article
from The Independent Newspaper, May 11, 2023.
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Thank you,
Jim Ardery
949-887-3823 cell
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From:Christy Holstege
To:City Clerk
Subject:Fwd:
Date:Monday, May 15, 2023 9:50:24 AM
Christy Gilbert Holstege, Esq.
Councilmember
District 4
City of Palm Springs
Begin forwarded message:
From: Jim Ardery <jimardery@gmail.com>
Date: May 14, 2023 at 12:50:22 PM PDT
To: grace.graner@palmspringsca.gov, Jeffrey Bernstein
<Jeffrey.Bernstein@palmspringsca.gov>, Ron deHarte
<Ron.deHarte@palmspringsca.gov>, Christy Holstege
<Christy.Holstege@palmspringsca.gov>, Lisa Middleton
<Lisa.Middleton@palmspringsca.gov>
Subject: Fwd:
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Hopefully you get the attachment...Sorry
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From: James Ardery <jim.ardery@compass.com>
Date: Sun, May 14, 2023 at 9:22 AM
Subject:
To: Jim Ardery <jimardery@gmail.com>
Sent from my iPhone
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Thank you,
Jim Ardery
949-887-3823 cell
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From:Christy Holstege
To:City Clerk
Subject:Fwd: Pacaso"s fractional property ownership
Date:Monday, May 15, 2023 9:48:11 AM
Christy Gilbert Holstege, Esq.
Councilmember
District 4
City of Palm Springs
Begin forwarded message:
From: Gary Hawley <gary@garyrhawley.com>
Date: May 15, 2023 at 9:03:10 AM PDT
To: Grace Garner <Grace.Garner@palmspringsca.gov>, Jeffrey Bernstein
<Jeffrey.Bernstein@palmspringsca.gov>, Ron deHarte
<Ron.deHarte@palmspringsca.gov>, Christy Holstege
<Christy.Holstege@palmspringsca.gov>, Lisa Middleton
<Lisa.Middleton@palmspringsca.gov>
Subject: Pacaso's fractional property ownership
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To: The City of Palm Springs
Offices of the Palm Springs Mayor and City Council
Please note that I (as a resident in the Old Las Palmas neighborhood for the past
23 years) am totally AGAINST the proposal of the fractional property ownership
proposed by Pacaso.
This would create an environment of friction between neighbors and the city as
well & put undue stress on our police department.
We cannot allow one company to come in and destroy our beautiful
neighborhoods just because of their greed.
On our behalf, please stop Pacaso from coming into our neighborhoods and
destroying them.
Thank you in advance for your knowledge & support for stopping this from
happening.
Thanks,
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Gary R. Hawley
(C) 949-887-3822
gary@garyRhawley.com
Cal DRE #00849421
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From:Jeffrey Bernstein
To:City Clerk
Subject:FW: Paula Auburn feedback: Pacaso and Blue Zone
Date:Thursday, May 11, 2023 4:56:28 PM
Jeffrey Bernstein
Mayor Pro Tem, Councilmember
City of Palm Springs
cell: 442-305-9942
Jeffrey.Bernstein@palmspringsca.gov
City Hall is open Monday –Thursday, 8 a.m. – 6 p.m. and closed on Fridays.
From: Paula Auburn <sunrisepaula@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2023 4:50 PM
To: Jeffrey Bernstein <Jeffrey.Bernstein@palmspringsca.gov>
Cc: Christy Holstege <Christy.Holstege@palmspringsca.gov>; Lisa Middleton
<Lisa.Middleton@palmspringsca.gov>; Grace Garner <Grace.Garner@palmspringsca.gov>; Ron
DeHarte <ron.dehart@palmspringsca.gov>
Subject: Paula Auburn feedback: Pacaso and Blue Zone
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Hi Jeffery,
I have been meaning for weeks to send this to you.
1. Just to frame my response to Pacaso - I have been against STVRs since the
beginning salvo. They are destroying neighbor integrity and cohesion. As
individual owners sell and flee to Palm Desert and Rancho Mirage and the rental
system takes over who will serve on Boards and Commissions? Who will run
for office?
2. As for Blue Zone - my scam meter went off within a few minutes of the
presentation!! It was obvious the presenter was dialing for dollars for his
salary. We do NOT, I repeat NOT, need to spend monies on this. There are
more pressing needs.
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Thank you,
Paula Auburn District 2
1369 Campeon
760-464-4494
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May 12, 2023
Mayor pro tem Jeffrey Bernstein
Offices of the Palm Springs Mayor and City Council
Palm Springs City Hall
3200 E. Tahquitz Canyon Way
Palm Springs, CA 92262
Dear Mayor pro tem Bernstein,
I want to thank you for your service and commitment to our community. I have
been coming to Palm Springs for 40 years, and it is a magical place in my mind.
I am contacting you about the upcoming discussion regarding whether Pacaso
will be allowed to continue to operate in Palm Springs. I am very against Pacaso’s
multi-family fractional home ownership model. I feel that the goals of owners
and the goals of real estate investors are almost always not aligned.
Old Las Palmas (where I’ve lived part-time for 23 years) has made peace with a
handful of rental houses, but I think any more investment properties would
change the character and feel of the neighborhood. Many of us do not know our
neighbors well, but we come to know our neighbors’ patterns which adds to our
feelings of safety and security. If a household is being rented all the time, it’s
almost impossible to know the patterns of those residing there at any given time.
The two main sources of revenue for Palm Springs are tourism and private home
ownership. Private home ownership is stronger than ever in Palm Springs. I urge
the city to avoid enacting practices that will adversely impact the housing sector.
I hope you will vote against allowing Pacaso to continue to operate in Palm
Springs.
Best regards,
Peter L. Mahler
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From:Jeffrey Bernstein
To:City Clerk
Cc:Scott Stiles; Kristopher Mooney
Subject:FW: AVENU Contract in the consent calendar item 1d
Date:Thursday, May 11, 2023 2:45:58 PM
Jeffrey Bernstein
Mayor Pro Tem, Councilmember
City of Palm Springs
cell: 442-305-9942
Jeffrey.Bernstein@palmspringsca.gov
City Hall is open Monday –Thursday, 8 a.m. – 6 p.m. and closed on Fridays.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Hoban <bruce@acmehouseco.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2023 2:34 PM
To: Jeffrey Bernstein <Jeffrey.Bernstein@palmspringsca.gov>
Cc: Aftab Dada <adada@hiltonpalmsprings.com>
Subject: AVENU Contract in the consent calendar item 1d
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In the FY 19-20 budget that was approved, There was an allocation for two additional FTEs accountants to perform
audits in addition to the existing in-house staff.
This was approved on the basis it would reduce costs, because Avenue revenue services would no longer be
necessary.
Why are we paying for outside services again?
What is the total cost of the audits and what is the Recovery amount from the audits? If the recovery fed are far less
than the expense, why are we auditng every single vacation rental home in Palm Springs?
Why wouldn’t we just do a sample of the homes to determine the under reporting?
A home owner, who does not have a property management company, submits their paperwork after receiving a
letter and then wait up to two years for an answer. How is this good customer service?
The hotels, property, management agencies and self managed. Homes, deserve a quarterly dashboard of TOT audits
and recovery rates.
Bruce Hoban
415-516-4641
Sent from my iPhone
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From:Jeffrey Bernstein
To:City Clerk
Subject:Fwd: Edison outages
Date:Wednesday, May 17, 2023 7:38:44 PM
Thank you!
Jeffrey
Jeffrey Bernstein
Mayor Pro Tem, Councilmember
City of Palm Springs
442-305-9942
Jeffrey.Bernstein@palmspringsca.gov
Begin forwarded message:
From: Mark Sutherland <marcasso20@hotmail.com>
Subject: Edison outages
Date: May 17, 2023 at 6:28:03 PM PDT
To: "Jeffrey.Bernstein@palmspringsca.gov"
<Jeffrey.Bernstein@palmspringsca.gov>
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This is rediculous! I'm sitting in my pool wondering if I'll ever get power
back....twice this week and twice next week! It's over 12 hours each time....I
work from home on my computer....make them stop please!
Mark Sutherland562.212.6735
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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From: <jmorisn4me@aol.com>
Date: Sun, May 14, 2023 at 9:44 PM
Subject: white party
To: denise.goolsby@palmspringsca.gov <denise.goolsby@palmspringsca.gov>
CC: christy@christyholstege.com <christy@christyholstege.com>
We would all like to know why the city is so desperate for $ or who knows what that
these kind of ridiculous events are allowed at reputable places WITH LOUD BANGING
MUSIC ALLOWED TO 4 AM ?? per the PD. We can hear it blasting from the
convention center that the officer said it was at, all the way over to Farrell and East
Palm Canyon. Really 4 am??? Cant cut it at least by midnight? We are so done with this
council catering to visitors and tourism who cause accidents and trouble , traffic and
inconveniences etc etc over residents well being. Like the jets in season landing taking
off at 1 am 2 am 6 am...
Will appreciate this passed on to city council and city manager as a formal statement for
city councils next meeting. Like it's not enough you have all the other ridiculous loud
parties at local hotels. Beatrice Lenes
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From:Brett Smith
To:City Clerk
Subject:A mother was raising her son in a city she loved. Then San Francisco changed and stole her boy | CNN
Date:Sunday, May 14, 2023 7:19:21 AM
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Our PS city leaders are making it too easy and attractive for drug use, transients, tent cities,
and shoplifting. Is Palm Springs headed this same direction? MANY of us say, “Yes!”
Time for us to enforce stricter laws, stop “inviting” drug addicts and criminals to our desert
cities by pretending to care and offer services. City Council, liberals and conservatives alike,
need to toughen up and STOP what will soon become the new San Francisco!
Brett Smith
Palm Springs
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/14/us/san-francisco-drugs-homeless-sidner-tws/index.html
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From:Jeffrey Bernstein
To:City Clerk
Cc:Scott Stiles; Kristopher Mooney
Subject:FW: AVENU Contract in the consent calendar item 1d
Date:Thursday, May 11, 2023 2:45:58 PM
Jeffrey Bernstein
Mayor Pro Tem, Councilmember
City of Palm Springs
cell: 442-305-9942
Jeffrey.Bernstein@palmspringsca.gov
City Hall is open Monday –Thursday, 8 a.m. – 6 p.m. and closed on Fridays.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Hoban <bruce@acmehouseco.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2023 2:34 PM
To: Jeffrey Bernstein <Jeffrey.Bernstein@palmspringsca.gov>
Cc: Aftab Dada <adada@hiltonpalmsprings.com>
Subject: AVENU Contract in the consent calendar item 1d
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In the FY 19-20 budget that was approved, There was an allocation for two additional FTEs accountants to perform
audits in addition to the existing in-house staff.
This was approved on the basis it would reduce costs, because Avenue revenue services would no longer be
necessary.
Why are we paying for outside services again?
What is the total cost of the audits and what is the Recovery amount from the audits? If the recovery fed are far less
than the expense, why are we auditng every single vacation rental home in Palm Springs?
Why wouldn’t we just do a sample of the homes to determine the under reporting?
A home owner, who does not have a property management company, submits their paperwork after receiving a
letter and then wait up to two years for an answer. How is this good customer service?
The hotels, property, management agencies and self managed. Homes, deserve a quarterly dashboard of TOT audits
and recovery rates.
Bruce Hoban
415-516-4641
Sent from my iPhone
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From:Christy Holstege
To:City Clerk
Subject:Fwd: New Church/Orchid Tree Project
Date:Thursday, May 11, 2023 11:24:45 AM
Attachments:Middleton letter 051023.pdf
Middleton letter 01062023.pdf
Christy Gilbert Holstege, Esq.
Councilmember
District 4
City of Palm Springs
Begin forwarded message:
From: Irene Gilbert <id.gilbert@hotmail.com>
Date: May 11, 2023 at 6:37:19 AM PDT
To: Lisa Middleton <Lisa.Middleton@palmspringsca.gov>, Grace Garner
<Grace.Garner@palmspringsca.gov>, Jeffrey Bernstein
<Jeffrey.Bernstein@palmspringsca.gov>, Ron deHarte
<Ron.deHarte@palmspringsca.gov>, Christy Holstege
<Christy.Holstege@palmspringsca.gov>
Cc: Christopher Hadwin <Christopher.Hadwin@palmspringsca.gov>, Irene
Gilbert <id.gilbert@hotmail.com>
Subject: New Church/Orchid Tree Project
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Dear Councilmember Middleton:
Please see the attached letter from the Historic Tennis Club Neighborhood
Organization regarding the above-referenced project. For your reference, I am
also attaching a copy of our earlier letter.
Thank you.
Irene Gilbert
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From:Christy Holstege
To:City Clerk
Subject:Fwd: Dream Hotel Project
Date:Thursday, May 11, 2023 11:23:59 AM
Christy Gilbert Holstege, Esq.
Councilmember
District 4
City of Palm Springs
Begin forwarded message:
From: Stuart Bell <sbell@growinggenerations.com>
Date: May 10, 2023 at 7:39:58 PM PDT
To: Christy Holstege <Christy.Holstege@palmspringsca.gov>
Subject: Dream Hotel Project
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Hi Christy,
I hope you are doing well. I own a home in the Morrison community. I understand that
at your meeting tomorrow you’ll be deciding on the Dream Hotel project. We have
dealt with the delays for years now. Please do not approve this project unless they can
prove they have the financing and time table that will get it complete in a year. We’ve
had so many broken promises from the developer. We’d love a hotel there but, if not,
a park would be great too. Thanks!
All my best,
Stuart Bell
1056 Audrey Drive
Palm Springs, CA 92262
STUART BELL
SENIOR PARTNER
..........................................................................
GROWING GENERATIONS
(323) 451-7044 Direct
Fax: (323) 965-0900
sbell@growinggenerations.com
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From:Christy Holstege
To:City Clerk
Subject:Fwd: Pacaso Fractional Home Ownership
Date:Thursday, May 11, 2023 11:22:22 AM
Christy Gilbert Holstege, Esq.
Councilmember
District 4
City of Palm Springs
Begin forwarded message:
From: Barbara Stevenson <bstevens@oteam.com>
Date: May 11, 2023 at 9:59:20 AM PDT
To: Grace Garner <Grace.Garner@palmspringsca.gov>, Jeffrey Bernstein
<Jeffrey.Bernstein@palmspringsca.gov>, Ron deHarte
<Ron.deHarte@palmspringsca.gov>, Christy Holstege
<Christy.Holstege@palmspringsca.gov>, Lisa Middleton
<Lisa.Middleton@palmspringsca.gov>
Cc: Mike King <mikekkcb@aol.com>
Subject: Pacaso Fractional Home Ownership
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10-May-23 11:58
:Message Subject > Plea for not expanding or banning fractional
home ownership.
:
I understand the Pacaso expansion matter is coming in front of
the City Council.
Please do not expand, or better still, ban this sort of ownership
in our city. As I understand it, the carefully thought out rules for
vacation rentals do not apply to fractional home owners – even
though owners are limited to 14 days of occupancy. That sort of
occupancy is the equivalent of vacation rental.
Fractional owners, who are not really homeowners and not really
residents in our city and don’t have concerns for their neighbors
like the rest of we homeowners do, not being regulated like
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vacation rentals will lead to horrible outcomes – the outcomes
that had the city sort out what rules and regulations to enact for
vacation rentals.
We live in Palm Springs full time. This is our home. We are
happy to share our wonderful city with visitors. We want visitors
for the economic benefit of our local businesses – and for the
taxes/revenue they bring to the city government (which, as I
understand it, fractional ownerships do not pay). And, it is
important that we maintain the “happy place to be for everyone”
quality of our city.
Please vote no on any expansion of Pasco’s model in our city. In
fact, ban fractional ownership if possible.
If you want to speak to me or my husband, Mike King, call us at
(760) 778-8070.
Thank you for your consideration.
Barbara Stevenson
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From:Lauren Wolfer on behalf of Christy Holstege
To:jennifer svensson; City Clerk
Subject:Re: Please don"t allow Pacaso to ruin my neighborhood
Date:Wednesday, May 10, 2023 12:03:02 PM
Hi Jennifer,
Thank you for your email. I've copied the city clerk who will enter your comments into the
public record. Thanks for being involved.
Christy Gilbert Holstege, Esq.
Councilmember
City of Palm Springs, District 4 Tel: (760) 323-8200
3200 E. Tahquitz Canyon Way Fax: (760) 323-8207
Palm Springs, CA 92262
www.palmspringsca.gov christy.holstege@palmspringsca.gov
From: jennifer svensson <jensven10@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2023 9:34 AM
To: grace.graner@palmspringsca.gov <grace.graner@palmspringsca.gov>; Jeffrey Bernstein
<Jeffrey.Bernstein@palmspringsca.gov>; Ron deHarte <Ron.deHarte@palmspringsca.gov>; Christy
Holstege <Christy.Holstege@palmspringsca.gov>; Lisa Middleton
<Lisa.Middleton@palmspringsca.gov>
Subject: Please don't allow Pacaso to ruin my neighborhood
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Fractional home ownership would be detrimental to our neighborhoods. Please don’t allow them to
operate in Palm Springs. I greatly appreciate what you do for our city.
Thank you,
Jennifer Svensson
300 W Veredasur
Palm Springs, CA 92262
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From:Lauren Wolfer on behalf of Christy Holstege
To:Sally Russo; City Clerk
Subject:Re: Pacaso
Date:Wednesday, May 10, 2023 12:02:33 PM
Hi Sally,
Thank you for your email. I've copied the city clerk who will enter your comments into the
public record. Thanks for being involved.
Christy Gilbert Holstege, Esq.
Councilmember
City of Palm Springs, District 4 Tel: (760) 323-8200
3200 E. Tahquitz Canyon Way Fax: (760) 323-8207
Palm Springs, CA 92262
www.palmspringsca.gov christy.holstege@palmspringsca.gov
From: Sally Russo <sallyrusso22@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2023 9:39 AM
To: Christy Holstege <Christy.Holstege@palmspringsca.gov>
Subject: Pacaso
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Dear Christy,
Please do NOT allow Pacaso to exist in Palm Springs.
It will lower our home values and increase incidents of zoning violations. Ugh.
Thank you,
Sally Russo
817 North Mission Road
Palm Springs
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From:LetsAll@GoBananas.net
To:CityManager; City Clerk
Cc:"- Bob"; Denise Goolsby
Subject:Best technology practices - bringing it from GG to PS
Date:Wednesday, May 10, 2023 11:46:03 AM
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Dear Mr. Stiles,
CC: City Council
RE: Bringing best technology practices to PS from GG.
We live in a more and more digitally connected world, demanding greater and
greater needs for technology on all levels. I am so pleased to see what you had
accomplished with Garden Grove’s website. Our City is in real need of being
brought into the 21st century technologically, both behind the scenes and out-
front interfaces.
Tech Grade – strong B+:
City of Garden Grove - homepage - www.GGCity.org
Notes: Succinct user interface.
Tech Grade – weak C:
City of Palm Springs - homepage - www.PalmSpringsCA.gov
Notes: Especially clumsy, glitchy, bad links, inaccurate, out of date, and the list
goes on.
Tech Grade – insufficient data:
City of Garden Grove – smart phone apps
Appears to not be in wide use and very few reviews.
Android version: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?
id=com.civicapps.gardengroveca
Apple version: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/garden-grove/id855800015
Notes: Insufficient data to grade. That suggests it may not be serving residents
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well.
Tech Grade – C- (generous grade):
City of Palm Springs – smart phone “MyPalmSprings” apps
Android version: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?
id=com.palmsprings.mypalmsprings
Apple version: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/mypalmsprings/id1467145009
Notes: Glitchy, bug filled, clumsy, and the list goes on. Not serving residents
well. It really does qualify as a “Crap App”. During lengthy conversations I tried
to talk David Ready out of it before he signed the contract, but he seemed
determined. David was well meaning; this app did not improve matters much
from the previous Crap App we had here in Palm Springs. The process pain
points and process friction is very problematic. Obviously, it never saw a test
focus group.
Thanks for reading,
Paul Hinrichsen aka GoBananas – Upper West Side NOrg leadership member
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A disabled van with two occupants has been on South Barona Road for a week. Our attempt to have a tow company
jump their battery failed to start the vehicle. The city must have an answer to this situation. It is not acceptable to
allow this to continue. The vehicle should be towed and the occupants screened to see what services are available
to assist them as they apparently have no agency of their own.
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From:Jeffrey Bernstein
To:City Clerk
Subject:Fwd: Pacaso
Date:Wednesday, May 10, 2023 9:38:06 AM
Jeffrey Bernstein
Mayor Pro Tem, Councilmember
City of Palm Springs
cell: 442-305-9942
Jeffrey.Bernstein@palmspringsca.gov
City Hall is open Monday –Thursday, 8 a.m. – 6 p.m. and closed on Fridays.
Begin forwarded message:
From: Sally Russo <sallyrusso22@hotmail.com>
Subject: Pacaso
Date: May 10, 2023 at 9:32:04 AM PDT
To: "jeffrey.bernstein@palmspringsca.gov"
<jeffrey.bernstein@palmspringsca.gov>
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Dear Councilman,
I want to express that this group ownership of a home is an insult to the quality of
life we vigilantly try to protect in our neighborhoods.
PLEASE do NOT allow this to invade our community and lower our home
values.
Thank you,
Sally Russo
817 North Mission Road
Palm Springs
Sent from my iPhone
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From:Jeffrey Bernstein
To:City Clerk
Subject:Fwd: Please don"t allow Pacaso to ruin my neighborhood
Date:Wednesday, May 10, 2023 9:37:59 AM
Jeffrey Bernstein
Mayor Pro Tem, Councilmember
City of Palm Springs
cell: 442-305-9942
Jeffrey.Bernstein@palmspringsca.gov
City Hall is open Monday –Thursday, 8 a.m. – 6 p.m. and closed on Fridays.
Begin forwarded message:
From: jennifer svensson <jensven10@gmail.com>
Subject: Please don't allow Pacaso to ruin my neighborhood
Date: May 10, 2023 at 9:34:08 AM PDT
To: grace.graner@palmspringsca.gov,
jeffrey.bernstein@palmspringsca.gov, ron.deharte@palmspringsca.gov,
christy.holstege@palmspringsca.gov, lisa.middleton@palmspringsca.gov
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Fractional home ownership would be detrimental to our neighborhoods. Please
don’t allow them to operate in Palm Springs. I greatly appreciate what you do for
our city.
Thank you,
Jennifer Svensson
300 W Veredasur
Palm Springs, CA 92262
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Date:Wednesday, May 10, 2023 8:10:41 AM
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dring down Indian Canyon, i noticed a sign stating ( Arenas District) and was discussing with friends. Wouldn't it be
great if PS renamed this district to sometime more appropriate that the streets name. Thinking " Rainbow District"
wpukd be a more appropriate name. Any consideration to this woukd be much appreciated. Cheers Rene Stuyck
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From:Christy Holstege
To:City Clerk
Subject:Fwd: Please preserve our neighborhoods --- Stop Pacaso from ruining our neighborhoods in Palm Springs
Date:Wednesday, May 10, 2023 8:03:30 AM
Christy Gilbert Holstege, Esq.
Councilmember
District 4
City of Palm Springs
Begin forwarded message:
From: julie <capcosf2@yahoo.com>
Date: May 9, 2023 at 5:15:03 PM PDT
To: Grace Garner <Grace.Garner@palmspringsca.gov>, Jeffrey Bernstein
<Jeffrey.Bernstein@palmspringsca.gov>, Ron deHarte
<Ron.deHarte@palmspringsca.gov>, Christy Holstege
<Christy.Holstege@palmspringsca.gov>, Lisa Middleton
<Lisa.Middleton@palmspringsca.gov>
Subject: Please preserve our neighborhoods --- Stop Pacaso from ruining our
neighborhoods in Palm Springs
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Dear Elected Officials,
I live in Old Las Palmas. I love my neighborhood. I know many of my
neighbors and we're all respectful of each other.
I've lived in two cities where Pacaso was developing a foothold, and it has
ruined the quality of life for those neighbors. The Pacaso "owners" are a
rotating number of people who don't vote and don't pay the same taxes as
other homeowners. They aren't part of the fabric of the community and
aren't invested in its viability. Further, they aren't committed to maintaining
the neighborhood for those of us who are living there. Many of the Pacaso
homes I'm familiar with have become party houses and the neighbors are
held hostage to the ongoing party atmosphere.
We live in a single family residential community, where we have to abide
by zoning laws. Why should Pacaso be given a free rein to skirt those
laws meant to protect the neighborhoods? Please update the City
ordinance to ban the Pacaso model and to save the unique charm of our
neighborhoods.
Respectfully, Julie Coplon
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05/11/2023
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From:Christy Holstege
To:City Clerk
Subject:Fwd: Palm Springs Resident opposition to Pacaso
Date:Tuesday, May 9, 2023 2:13:49 PM
Christy Gilbert Holstege, Esq.
Councilmember
District 4
City of Palm Springs
Begin forwarded message:
From: Brad Kuhns <bradkuhns@me.com>
Date: May 9, 2023 at 11:27:59 AM PDT
To: Grace Garner <Grace.Garner@palmspringsca.gov>, Jeffrey Bernstein
<Jeffrey.Bernstein@palmspringsca.gov>, Ron deHarte
<Ron.deHarte@palmspringsca.gov>, Christy Holstege
<Christy.Holstege@palmspringsca.gov>, Lisa Middleton
<Lisa.Middleton@palmspringsca.gov>
Subject: Palm Springs Resident opposition to Pacaso
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To the Palm Springs City Council -
I'm writing as a full time resident in Vista Las Palmas in Palm Springs to voice
my opposition to Pacaso doing business in Palm Springs.
I believes that Pacaso's multi-family fractional home ownership model is
inconsistent with the single family home residential zoning in our neighborhoods.
I also believe it would significantly and negatively impact the character of our
neighborhood and the quality of life of our residents. You the City Council
worked diligently with the community to develop a set of rules to regulate
vacation rental homes, but we understand that many of these regulations will not
apply to Pacaso properties.
For example, Pacaso homes' freedom to be used for large private events an
unlimited number of times would have a major negative impact on our quality of
life. The city would have very limited ability to regulate these homes.
There are no discernible benefits to residents from allowing Pacaso to operate in
the city. The city would receive no vacation home rental tax revenue to offset the
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expenses that will be incurred in responding to residents’ complaints (residents
will not differentiate between vacation rentals and Pacaso properties).
We are aware that the City is considering allowing Pacaso to acquire a certain
limited number of properties. That would only concentrate their focus in a small
number of neighborhoods and worsen the problem. Additionally, it would create
further housing inequity by giving those limited number of homeowners
additional property value (those selling to Pacaso at premium prices) while
potentially reducing the value of other adjacent homeowner’s properties (those
living next to these unregulated vacation and event homes).
Pacaso has filed lawsuits against other cities seeking to regulate or ban them, but
the desire to avoid a lawsuit is not a reason to adopt bad public policy by
changing longstanding city law designed to preserve residential neighborhoods.
Additionally, if the City Council creates an exemption to existing zoning to allow
fractional ownership timeshares, residents opposing such a move would be likely
to file a lawsuit against the City to prevent it.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
_____________________ Brad Kuhns bradkuhns@me.com
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From:Christy Holstege
To:City Clerk
Subject:Fwd: Pacaso plans
Date:Tuesday, May 9, 2023 2:13:21 PM
Christy Gilbert Holstege, Esq.
Councilmember
District 4
City of Palm Springs
Begin forwarded message:
From: Jim Carter <hurricane.carter659@gmail.com>
Date: May 9, 2023 at 12:22:07 PM PDT
To: Christy Holstege <Christy.Holstege@palmspringsca.gov>
Subject: Pacaso plans
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Dear Christy:
My wife, Victoria, and I live at 444 N. Via Las Palmas in Palm Springs.
I’m writing to express our opposition to Pacaso’s proposal to expand their
fractional property ownership in our neighborhood. The present regulations keep
Old Las Palmas quiet and relatively safe without much noise or disturbance.
Allowing Pacaso to come in with their model will significantly and negatively
impact our neighborhood.
I’m sure you are aware that Carmel, Newport Beach, Sonoma, and other beautiful
California cities have said “no” to Pacaso. We urge you to do the same here in
Palm Springs.
Thanks, in advance, for considering our viewpoint.
With respect,
Jim Carter
715-586-0400
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From:Christy Holstege
To:City Clerk
Subject:Fwd: Pacaso
Date:Tuesday, May 9, 2023 2:12:58 PM
Christy Gilbert Holstege, Esq.
Councilmember
District 4
City of Palm Springs
Begin forwarded message:
From: Eric Stephens <ericfstephens@gmail.com>
Date: May 9, 2023 at 1:43:06 PM PDT
To: Christy Holstege <Christy.Holstege@palmspringsca.gov>
Subject: Pacaso
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Dear Ms. Holstege<
I am writing to let you know of my concern about Pacaso being allowed to
operate their business model in Palm Springs. I have seen so many lovely
neighborhoods become decimated by fractional ownership models. I hope we can
look to you for leadership in reducing this problem in Palm Springs by opposing
the business model of Pacaso.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Eric Stephens
227 W. Stevens Rd.
Palm Springs, CA 92262
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From:Christy Holstege
To:City Clerk
Subject:Fwd: Say NO to Fractional homeownership!
Date:Tuesday, May 9, 2023 2:12:40 PM
Christy Gilbert Holstege, Esq.
Councilmember
District 4
City of Palm Springs
Begin forwarded message:
From: JMM <jmm90266@gmail.com>
Date: May 9, 2023 at 1:48:10 PM PDT
To: Lisa Middleton <Lisa.Middleton@palmspringsca.gov>, Christy Holstege
<Christy.Holstege@palmspringsca.gov>
Subject: Fwd: Say NO to Fractional homeownership!
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Subject: Say NO to Fractional homeownership!
Dear Councilmembers DeHarte, Middleton, and Holstege,
As a homeowner in the Old Las Palmas Neighborhood (474 W
Hermosa Pl) for nearly a decade, I am writing to appeal to you:
please find some way to effectively prohibit fractional home
ownership business models such as Pacaso’s from gaining a foothold
in our community.
My primary concern is the inevitable decline in quality of life in our
peaceful, quiet neighborhood that such operations would engender.
Moreover, property values (and associated property tax revenues)
would very likely be adversely impacted while the demand on city
services would escalate.
Please follow the lead of cities like Beverly Hills, Carmel, and
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Newport Beach, and use every legal and policy tool at your disposal
to prevent this invasive “vacation model” from turning our lovely
neighborhood homes into “resort hotels” with fractional share
owners rotating through on a 2 week basis!
Thanks for listening
Joanne Maguire
(424)675-1487
05/11/2023
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From:Christy Holstege
To:City Clerk
Subject:Fwd: Against Pacaso
Date:Tuesday, May 9, 2023 2:12:32 PM
Christy Gilbert Holstege, Esq.
Councilmember
District 4
City of Palm Springs
Begin forwarded message:
From: Mmcd032548 <mmcd032548@aol.com>
Date: May 9, 2023 at 1:51:20 PM PDT
To: grace.graner@palmspringsca.gov, Jeffrey Bernstein
<Jeffrey.Bernstein@palmspringsca.gov>, Ron deHarte
<Ron.deHarte@palmspringsca.gov>, Christy Holstege
<Christy.Holstege@palmspringsca.gov>, Lisa Middleton
<Lisa.Middleton@palmspringsca.gov>
Cc: Steve McDermott <smcdermott.altavie@gmail.com>
Subject: Against Pacaso
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We are residents and homeowners in Old Las Palmas and are against
allowing Pacaso to operate in our neighborhood. Allowing fractional
homeownership would destroy the quiet, stable community that now
exists.
Margaret Lou
465 W Vereda sur
Palm Springs, CA 92262
05/11/2023
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From:Jim N
To:City Clerk
Subject:FRACTIONAL HOME OWNERSHIP....PUBLIC COMMENT.
Date:Tuesday, May 9, 2023 2:09:03 PM
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My name is James Neuman and I live in the Old Las Palmas Neighborhood and this
is to everyone who has jurisdiction over these decisions, or an interest therein….this
is the opinion of a long-time resident and home owner who wishes to maintain the
quality of all Palm Springs neighborhoods as ‘desirable’ residential enclaves.
Perhaps some do not recall the angst over the actions we have just gone through to
regulate Vacation Rentals in our Valley. Some cities (down valley particularly)
have taken more stringent steps than have we….and they are reaping the benefits of
not being plagued with constant calls and complaints from irate neighbors, as is still
happening here in our city. Oh yes, the infractions have decreased, since previous
council boards have levied restrictions, but to say that all infractions have ceased, is
to ignore the facts, and to not take into account ‘non-reported’ infractions.
The ‘scheme’ of Fractional Home Ownership is a new and bazaar recipe for disaster
to the quality of our neighborhoods. It flies in the face of all the intentions of the
founding residents of Palm Springs who elected long ago to place codes, laws and
restrictions in place to thwart such incursions…..in favor of ‘single-family’ home
ownership. This is an unknown path that is NOT supported by a majority of the
home owners in our city and, in addition, it provides no benefit to our ‘tax’
base….it will only lead to undetermined consequences in the future. The only effect
it will have on tax revenues is to erode the value of other nearby homes leading to a
decrease in tax revenue due to the falling values. It provides little to the economy
of our city, since it never ‘increases’ the number of visitors to our community but
merely ‘replaces’ them over and over with constant ‘move-in’s and move-out’s.
This is a very bad ‘new’ idea and any elected official of our city should think about
a backlash at the voting booth in the wake of agreeing to such a ‘bazaar’ form of
home ownership.
Sincerely, James Neuman
Old Las Palmas home owner.
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From:Brad Kuhns
To:City Clerk
Subject:Palm Springs Resident opposition to Pacaso
Date:Tuesday, May 9, 2023 11:34:13 AM
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To the Palm Springs City Council -
I'm writing as a full time resident in Vista Las Palmas in Palm Springs to voice
my opposition to Pacaso doing business in Palm Springs.
I believes that Pacaso's multi-family fractional home ownership model is
inconsistent with the single family home residential zoning in our neighborhoods.
I also believe it would significantly and negatively impact the character of our
neighborhood and the quality of life of our residents. You the City Council
worked diligently with the community to develop a set of rules to regulate
vacation rental homes, but we understand that many of these regulations will not
apply to Pacaso properties.
For example, Pacaso homes' freedom to be used for large private events an
unlimited number of times would have a major negative impact on our quality of
life. The city would have very limited ability to regulate these homes.
There are no discernible benefits to residents from allowing Pacaso to operate in
the city. The city would receive no vacation home rental tax revenue to offset the
expenses that will be incurred in responding to residents’ complaints (residents
will not differentiate between vacation rentals and Pacaso properties).
We are aware that the City is considering allowing Pacaso to acquire a certain
limited number of properties. That would only concentrate their focus in a small
number of neighborhoods and worsen the problem. Additionally, it would create
further housing inequity by giving those limited number of homeowners
additional property value (those selling to Pacaso at premium prices) while
potentially reducing the value of other adjacent homeowner’s properties (those
living next to these unregulated vacation and event homes).
Pacaso has filed lawsuits against other cities seeking to regulate or ban them, but
the desire to avoid a lawsuit is not a reason to adopt bad public policy by
changing longstanding city law designed to preserve residential neighborhoods.
Additionally, if the City Council creates an exemption to existing zoning to allow
fractional ownership timeshares, residents opposing such a move would be likely
to file a lawsuit against the City to prevent it.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
05/11/2023
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_____________________ Brad Kuhns bradkuhns@me.com
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From:Jeffrey Bernstein
To:City Clerk
Subject:Fwd: Pool Closure
Date:Tuesday, May 9, 2023 9:05:47 AM
Jeffrey Bernstein
Mayor Pro Tem, Councilmember
City of Palm Springs
cell: 442-305-9942
Jeffrey.Bernstein@palmspringsca.gov
City Hall is open Monday –Thursday, 8 a.m. – 6 p.m. and closed on Fridays.
Begin forwarded message:
From: Donna Newton <donna4newton@aol.com>
Subject: Pool Closure
Date: May 8, 2023 at 1:57:09 PM PDT
To: Alcorn Jerry <alcornadaptive@gmail.com>, Scott Stiles
<scott.stiles@palmspringsca.gov>, Jeffrey Bernstein
<jeffrey.bernstein@palmspringsca.gov>
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Good Afternoon Jerry
I’m not sure if you are aware, the pool could not open today due to lack of staff.
I was very optimistic after the public meeting in April. However, after the last
Parks and Recreation meeting I have become more pessimistic. At the meeting
Yvonne stated they had filled two positions for the pool. I along with others in
the room clapped assuming progress was being made, UNTIL, I asked the next
day when the new associates were starting. I then was told the two existing
lifeguards had been promoted. I’m excited for them as they deserved to be
promoted, however, this means we still only have 3 lifeguards to keep the pool
going and a supervisor ,who is spending a great deal of her time as a lifeguard.
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I understand folks were hired in March and were sent to Palm Desert for training.
It is now May and they are still not at the pool. How long is the training process?
The current staff are working many days, with I believe only one day off a week.
They are exhausted. They can’t continue in this way and be productive. Thus
the closure today!
I signed up to be on the ad hoc committee to help be a part of the solution for all,
however, we have not met since the community meeting.
I’m really interested in having the pool open and being able to have my class.
One of my participants called me today in tears because of the closure. Her health
and well being ( as well as the rest of us) are being effected. Yes, getting
locker room makeovers, new paint are good ,but REALLY all we want is to able
to do our exercises in the pool. Last month I averaged 27 participants in each
class. It is hard to keep growing if we have pool closures.
My question is the same as it was in January, WHEN will the pool staffing issues
be resolved??
Sincerely
Donna Newton
Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
05/11/2023
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From:Christy Holstege
To:City Clerk
Subject:Fwd: Mesquite Golf Course conversion
Date:Thursday, May 4, 2023 10:52:03 AM
Christy Gilbert Holstege, Esq.
Councilmember
District 4
City of Palm Springs
Begin forwarded message:
From: WENDY GREGORY <wenpg@aol.com>
Date: May 3, 2023 at 10:20:13 PM PDT
To: Scott Stiles <Scott.Stiles@palmspringsca.gov>
Cc: Grace Garner <Grace.Garner@palmspringsca.gov>, Alyssa Chavez
<Alyssa.Chavez@palmspringsca.gov>, Jeffrey Bernstein
<Jeffrey.Bernstein@palmspringsca.gov>, Ron deHarte
<Ron.deHarte@palmspringsca.gov>, Christy Holstege
<Christy.Holstege@palmspringsca.gov>, Lisa Middleton
<Lisa.Middleton@palmspringsca.gov>
Subject: Mesquite Golf Course conversion
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Scott Stiles
City Manager
Palm Springs, CA
Dear Sir,
I am writing to express my concerns about the current state of the Mesquite Golf
Course and the landscaping along Farrell Drive and the other streets and
sidewalks surrounding it. What a terrible eyesore to the tourists and the residents.
It’s a disgrace to our beautiful city of Palm Springs.
I’ve heard that the current owner plans to turn the acreage into a desert/wildlife
preserve. With the increased breeding of coyotes, bobcats and other wildlife, my
concern is how will the city insure the safety of neighboring residents including
children, pets, and the elderly. Also, if the preserve is approved there will be
liability issues when an injury occurs. There will be no way to keep the increased
wildlife from wandering into the neighboring residences. Another issue is
wildfires. As we move into summer and fall and the trees and bushes and weeds
dry out it will be a fire hazard. Is the Golf Course Conversion Ordinance being
followed?
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Nobody in their right mind would build a residential area in the middle of a
wildlife preserve, and I think the same could be said for putting a wildlife
preserve in the middle of a residential area.
Regards,
Al Gregory
Mesquite CC homeowner
05/11/2023
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From:City of Palm Springs
To:City Clerk; City Clerk
Subject:*NEW SUBMISSION* Submit Public Comment to the City of Palm Springs
Date:Saturday, May 6, 2023 11:32:48 AM
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VERY concerned to see nothing that looks like an approval vote being held for a contract to clear the dumpster that
is now the wash near Gene Autry Trail. Please do not turn away from the mess of homeless encampments that have
brought unabated petty crimes, larceny, drugs, and fear to our local communities. Please allay these fears and add
this to the agenda as there have been promises made that there would be a vote at this upcoming City Council
meeting but to-date no such item has been added to the agenda.
Thank you,
City of Palm Springs
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From:Christy Holstege
To:City Clerk
Subject:Fwd: letter regarding Pacaso in our neiborhood.
Date:Friday, May 5, 2023 11:28:43 AM
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Pacaso letter.docx
Christy Gilbert Holstege, Esq.
Councilmember
District 4
City of Palm Springs
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From: Paul Mahoney <paul@pmaadvertising.com>
Date: May 5, 2023 at 11:17:35 AM PDT
To: Christy Holstege <Christy.Holstege@palmspringsca.gov>
Subject: FW: letter regarding Pacaso in our neiborhood.
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Dear Ms. Holstege
I am writing to you to express my desire for you and the city of council to vote to not
allow Pacaso and other fractional homes in our city. In my opinion they are a version of
vacation homes, but are not subject to the rules and will create a negative effect in our
neighborhood. I am a 30 year resident of Old Las Palmas, and truly hope you and the
other council members will not allow this to happen in our neighborhoods.
Please read and thank you for your time.
Paul Mahoney
495 Camino Norte
Palm Springs, CA 92262
PAUL J. MAHONEY | CEO
760.778.1313 EXT. 24| PMAADVERTISING.COM
550 S. OLEANDER ROAD PALM SPRINGS, CA 92264
05/11/2023
Public Comment
Non Agenda Item
05/11/2023
Public Comment
Non Agenda Item