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Home My WebLink About3C - Public CommentFrom:City of Palm Springs To:City Clerk; City Clerk Subject:*NEW SUBMISSION* Submit Public Comment to the City of Palm Springs Date:Monday, November 28, 2022 6:13:25 PM Submit Public Comment to the City of Palm Springs Submission #:2105917 IP Address:72.132.237.42 Submission Date:11/28/2022 6:13 Survey Time:4 minutes, 23 seconds You have a new online form submission. Note: all answers displaying "*****" are marked as sensitive and must be viewed after your login. Full Name/Nombre Steven Guy City of Residence/Ciudad de residencia Palm Springs, Phone (optional) /Teléfono (opcional) 2135007085 Email (optional/opcional) sguympa@gmail.com Your Comments/Sus comentarios I would ask the council to postpone the vote to sanction adult oriented businesses in Tahquitz River Estates and the surrounding areas, including Industrial Place, until further input from the community can be conducted. Many Thanks, Steven Guy, Board Member, Tahquitz River Estates. Thank you, City of Palm Springs This is an automated message generated by Granicus. Please do not reply directly to this email. 11/28/2022 Public Comment Item 3C From:City of Palm Springs To:City Clerk; City Clerk Subject:*NEW SUBMISSION* Submit Public Comment to the City of Palm Springs Date:Wednesday, November 23, 2022 9:30:26 PM Submit Public Comment to the City of Palm Springs Submission #:2100610 IP Address:72.132.186.50 Submission Date:11/23/2022 9:30 Survey Time:42 minutes, 7 seconds You have a new online form submission. Note: all answers displaying "*****" are marked as sensitive and must be viewed after your login. Full Name/Nombre Donald Barrett City of Residence/Ciudad de residencia Palm Springs, Phone (optional) /Teléfono (opcional) Email (optional/opcional) donb92264@gmail.com Your Comments/Sus comentarios This regards item 3.C on street vending, addressed in Council on November 28, 2022. The number of very large street vending operations appearing in the city lately are a general health and traffic concern, but I am writing primarily about a vendor who has set up just off the sidewalk on Ramon across from my park, Ramon MHP (1441 Ramon). The vendor has a large operation with two serving tables, 3-4 people working, and tables for customers. The vendor sets up operations at about 6PM, serves customers until about 2AM, and spends about an hour taking down. I know all of that because the music and then noise from cleaning up disrupts my evening and keeps me awake. The proposed regulations do not address noise. While I am encouraged that the regulations might shut this vendor down or significantly reduce their size, I do believe it important to also address noise. The music from a street vendor should not disturb nearby residents or be much louder than similar nearby restaurants. Thank you, City of Palm Springs This is an automated message generated by Granicus. Please do not reply directly to this email. 11/28/2022 Public Comment Item 3C 1 November 28, 2022 City of Palm Springs 3200 E. Tahquitz Canyon Way Palm Springs, CA 92262 ATTN: Mayor Lisa Middleton Council Members Grace Garner, Dennis Woods, Geoff Kors and Christy Holstege Teresa Gallavan, Interim City Manager Brenda Pree, City Clerk Dear Mayor, City Council, and City Staff Members: The Board of the Palm Springs Hospitality Association strongly urges the City to oppose expanding the rights of street vendors and food trucks for conducting their businesses on the streets and sidewalks of Palm Springs. Street vendors are not following the same stringent health, safety, and tax ordinances that “brick and mortar” business do in Palm Springs. This gives these temporary, pop-up enterprises an unfair advantage and cheats our community out of safety and tax revenues. Palm Springs restaurants and “brick and mortar” vendors follow the City and County health codes. They are regularly inspected for compliance and fined for infractions. Street vendors and food trucks largely arrive at night when no City inspectors are on duty to monitor street vendors for compliance. Street vendors provide no restroom and sanitation facilities. Their customers are left to use the bathrooms within our local businesses, or the few public restrooms provided by Palm Springs taxpayers. Street vendor food operations often present public safety and health hazards because they cook with open propane or gas flames, which alone create serious unmitigated fire hazards, but additionally, the vendors fail to safely manage their exhaust emissions and pollute our community with their smoke, smells and particulates. Street vendors often create public safety and nuisance issues because they block sidewalks with their equipment or customer lines and take away parking spaces supported by “brick and mortar” business taxes. It has always been the case that our restaurants and retail businesses strive to prosper during our destination’s peak seasons so that they may be able to survive in the slower months while providing local jobs and important community attractions and amenities all year or nearly all year long. Street vendors, on the other hand, show up when our destination is most ripe for capturing the greatest amount of visitor dollars. While we are discussing dollars, our local businesses pay state and local sales taxes, property taxes, payroll taxes and employee benefits and rents. Who is monitoring taxable receipts, payroll taxes and employee benefits on these street vendors? To whom are they paying rent? Local businesses are also the leading supporters of Palm Springs charities and civic events. Street vendors only use these events as an opportunity to extract revenue from our community and visitors. 11/28/2022 Public Comment Item 3C 2 For several years, PSHA has been requesting that the City Council address this important issue and we are hopeful that tonight this current City Council will make a decision that supports local businesses and the community. We recognize that in some ways, our City Council’s hands are tied because the State allows street vendors to operate in municipalities. The State has taken away local government’s ability to decide their own zoning regulations. But, please, for the sake of fairness, a level playing field, and respect for the businesses that make significant long-term investments in our community and work hard to comply with health and safety requirements, we urge you restrict in any way possible the spread of street vendors Palm Springs. Thank you for considering our request. Sincerely, Aftab Dada Aftab Dada, President Palm Springs Hospitality Association On behalf of the PSHA Board of Directors 11/28/2022 Public Comment Item 3C From:City of Palm Springs To:City Clerk; City Clerk Subject:*NEW SUBMISSION* Submit Public Comment to the City of Palm Springs Date:Wednesday, November 23, 2022 9:30:26 PM Submit Public Comment to the City of Palm Springs Submission #:2100610 IP Address:72.132.186.50 Submission Date:11/23/2022 9:30 Survey Time:42 minutes, 7 seconds You have a new online form submission. Note: all answers displaying "*****" are marked as sensitive and must be viewed after your login. Full Name/Nombre Donald Barrett City of Residence/Ciudad de residencia Palm Springs, Phone (optional) /Teléfono (opcional) Email (optional/opcional) donb92264@gmail.com Your Comments/Sus comentarios This regards item 3.C on street vending, addressed in Council on November 28, 2022. The number of very large street vending operations appearing in the city lately are a general health and traffic concern, but I am writing primarily about a vendor who has set up just off the sidewalk on Ramon across from my park, Ramon MHP (1441 Ramon). The vendor has a large operation with two serving tables, 3-4 people working, and tables for customers. The vendor sets up operations at about 6PM, serves customers until about 2AM, and spends about an hour taking down. I know all of that because the music and then noise from cleaning up disrupts my evening and keeps me awake. The proposed regulations do not address noise. While I am encouraged that the regulations might shut this vendor down or significantly reduce their size, I do believe it important to also address noise. The music from a street vendor should not disturb nearby residents or be much louder than similar nearby restaurants. Thank you, City of Palm Springs This is an automated message generated by Granicus. Please do not reply directly to this email. 11/28/2022 Public Comment Item 3C From: David Christian <duczupa@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 4:24 PM To: Grace Garner <Grace.Garner@palmspringsca.gov>; Geoff Kors <Geoff.Kors@palmspringsca.gov>; Llubi Rios <Llubi.Rios@palmspringsca.gov>; Dennis Woods <Dennis.Woods@palmspringsca.gov>; CityManager <CityManager@palmspringsca.gov>; Lisa Middleton <Lisa.Middleton@palmspringsca.gov>; Christy Holstege <Christy.Holstege@palmspringsca.gov>; Cindy Cairns <Cindy.Cairns@palmspringsca.gov>; Makinen, Julie <Julie.Makinen@desertsun.com> Subject: Council revoking current Palm Springs sex related ordinances. Meeting Monday November 28. NOTICE: This message originated outside of The City of Palm Springs -- DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. To the Palm Springs City Council, This will be brief. The excerpt below is just a small portion of your new proposed ordinance regarding public nudity, sex shops and similar issues. 15.(17) The adult-oriented business shall provide separate restroom facilities for male and female patrons. The restrooms shall be free from sexually oriented materials and sexually oriented merchandise. Only one person shall be allowed in the restroom at any time, unless otherwise required by law, in which case the adult oriented business shall employ a restroom attendant of the same sex as the restroom users who shall be present in the restroom during operating hours. The attendant shall prevent any person(s) from engaging in any specified sexual activities within the restroom and shall ensure that no person of the opposite sex is permitted in the restroom. There used to be a standard for what was almost universally called decent and acceptable behavior. The City of Palm Springs has some very rational laws related to encouraging that sort of behavior. I don’t think that baring ones’ buttocks in public and encouraging sex acts in public toilets falls into that category. Apparently, the current council is hoping this is the future of Palm Springs. I would encourage you not to take this path. I am absolutely certain I do not stand alone on this. 11/28/2022 Public Comment Item 3C Sincerely, David ______________________________________________ David Christian Architecture & Interior Design 431 Villaggio North Palm Springs, CA 92262 Phone:760-285-2220 dc@davidchristian.com www.davidchristian.com 11/28/2022 Public Comment Item 3C From:City of Palm Springs To:City Clerk; City Clerk Subject:*NEW SUBMISSION* Submit Public Comment to the City of Palm Springs Date:Thursday, November 24, 2022 8:54:06 PM Submit Public Comment to the City of Palm Springs Submission #:2101065 IP Address:47.154.45.25 Submission Date:11/24/2022 8:54 Survey Time:7 minutes, 19 seconds You have a new online form submission. Note: all answers displaying "*****" are marked as sensitive and must be viewed after your login. Full Name/Nombre Tracy Ferguson City of Residence/Ciudad de residencia Palm Springs, Phone (optional) /Teléfono (opcional) Email (optional/opcional) Your Comments/Sus comentarios 3.C regarding on street vending I live in Ramon Park 1441Ramon rd Palm Springs. I live very close to the road and find the music play to be very loud. It goes on many nights per week disturbing conversations and sleep. I hope these concerns will be taken seriously. Thank you Thank you, City of Palm Springs This is an automated message generated by Granicus. Please do not reply directly to this email. 11/28/2022 Public Comment Item 3C From:City of Palm Springs To:City Clerk; City Clerk Subject:*NEW SUBMISSION* Submit Public Comment to the City of Palm Springs Date:Saturday, November 26, 2022 4:21:30 PM Submit Public Comment to the City of Palm Springs Submission #:2102537 IP Address:72.132.181.196 Submission Date:11/26/2022 4:21 Survey Time:11 minutes, 54 seconds You have a new online form submission. Note: all answers displaying "*****" are marked as sensitive and must be viewed after your login. Full Name/Nombre alan stuart City of Residence/Ciudad de residencia Palm springs, Phone (optional) /Teléfono (opcional) Email (optional/opcional) tallalanhere@gmail.com Your Comments/Sus comentarios Reference item C3 ..outdoor restaurants Why is it that riverside county is always citing restaurants via the health department and these pop up things are allowed???? I live in Ramon Mobile Home Park off sunrise and Ramon. One of the busiest intersections in palm springs yet we have had a pop up taco stand for more than a month now. What started as a tent has now Segwayed into 3 tents. Now with tables chairs and lights as well as music so loud I can feel the base while in my living room not to meet hearing it Calls by numerous other neighbors to police and nothing happens. Why is this allowed in a city that doesn't allow good trucks yet this taco stand with no parking or running water is up and running nightly. My main question to you is "If this public annoyance POPPED up across the street from your home HOW LONG WOULD IT LAST???? Thank you, City of Palm Springs This is an automated message generated by Granicus. Please do not reply directly to this email. 11/28/2022 Public Comment Item 3C From:City of Palm Springs To:City Clerk; City Clerk Subject:*NEW SUBMISSION* Submit Public Comment to the City of Palm Springs Date:Saturday, November 26, 2022 9:32:47 PM Submit Public Comment to the City of Palm Springs Submission #:2102666 IP Address:72.132.223.1 Submission Date:11/26/2022 9:32 Survey Time:14 minutes, 44 seconds You have a new online form submission. Note: all answers displaying "*****" are marked as sensitive and must be viewed after your login. Full Name/Nombre george Raleigh Hanbury hanbury City of Residence/Ciudad de residencia palm springs, Phone (optional) /Teléfono (opcional) 7605672786 Email (optional/opcional) ghanbury@dc.rr.com Your Comments/Sus comentarios re item 3.C on the council agenda for 1/28/22: For over a month a unlicenced taco stand has been operating on the sidewalk (in a red zone) in front of the CVS pharmacy at the corner of Ramon and Sunrise. I live across the street in Ramon Park. This taco stand has no permits, no health dept. approval, no sanitary facilities and plays loud music till 2 a.m. Complaints to police have no effect. This business is detrimental to the city AND my neighborhood and must be stopped at once. Thank you, City of Palm Springs This is an automated message generated by Granicus. Please do not reply directly to this email. 11/28/2022 Public Comment Item 3C t November 28, 2022 City of Palm Springs: City Council Subject: Commerce on public land / street vendors Greetings In 2018 I became aware of SB 946 and recommended to the Mayor and City Manager that the action to create a compliant ordinance should be done before we had street vendors on the streets, I pleased to see you taking compliant actions today, four years later. I have little doubt that very close to every business on Palm Canyon Drive between East Granvia Valmonte and Camino Parocela would prefer you did not permit street vendors selling both food and merchandise. It is my understanding that based solely on Health and Safety issues you have the authority to ban all commerce within 25 feet of Palm Canyon Drive between East Granvia Valmonte and Camino Parocela noting high pedestrian traffic, traffic congestion and limited street parking. These all SEVEN UNIQUE DISTRICTS CREATING ONE SHOPPING EXPERIENCE LIKE NO PLACE ELSE FROM NORTH TO SOUTH: City Gateway District Palm Canyon Drive Tramway to Vista Chino Uptown Dine and Design District Palm & Indian Canyons Vista Chino to Alejo Downtown Alejo to Camino Parasola THE MICRO DISTRCTS OF DOWNTOWN: North Palm Canyon Drive Tribal Cultural Center and Entertainment district Tahquitz Corridor South Palm Canyon Drive Indian Canyon Drive No & So District Arenas The Sunny Dunes Palm Canyon Drive, Camino Parasola to Mesquite, Sunnydunes Road Industrial Place The Curve @ South and East Palm Canyon Drive Mesquite to Camino Real Smoketrees and Saguaro District Palm Canyon Drive Camino Real to Araby Backstreet Arts District Cherokee Way at Palm Canyon Drive PALM SPRINGS Promotions Matt Robinson The Districts of Palm Canyon Dirve 7610 Calle Mazamitla, Palm Springs CA 92264 GuyInPalmSprings@gmail.com 760/567-0473 PSP 11/28/2022 Public Comment Item 3C address health and safety issues along Palm Canyon Drive. SB 946 does not permit you favor one product over another not give any preference whatsoever to brick and mortar businesses over street vendors, commerce is commerce under SB 946. This means to avoid likely litigation all commerce including bars and restaurants using public sidewalks and parklets as well as street vendors would need to be banned. That said, you do have an opportunity to regulate street vendors using Time, Place and Manor to which any and all commerce may occure along Palm Canyon Drive. This clarifies that during special events, Pride, Villagefest and Parades, street vendors must be a minimum of 25 feet off Palm Canyon Drive. Your proposed regulations cover both roaming carts and stationary vendors, it seems wrong to ban a stationary vendor from using a table. A table could look far better than a cart or merchandise on the sidewalk. I believe a far more important issue to address is the maximum area a street vendor may occupy. If you permit street vendors on Palm Canyon Drive between Granvia Valmonte and Caming Parocela it would be my recommendation to limit any street vendor to a space not exceeding four feet by eight feet in total area. Currently restaurants are permitted to use umbrellas and other shade devices despite the fact that in most cases these structures block visibility of the storefront and signage next door. In our climate it is a health and safety concern to prohibit street vendors from any shading of any kind. We recognize the need for restaurant customers are in the “furniture zone” of a sidewalk, that same need exists when a street vendor is in the “furniture zone” of a public sidewalk. Vendors like the food vendors setup at various locations raise an issue of vehicles using undeveloped lots for parking which is prohibited in Palm Springs due to PM-10 dust regulations. Lighting should be included in any new ordinance, currently many have strings of LED light glaring, I’m sure Flinn Fagg could come up with a no glare lighting standard. 11/28/2022 Public Comment Item 3C I am pleased the City of Palm Springs is including a minimum six feet open and unobstructed sidewalk at every location to accommodate ADA requirements and needs of our disabled community. Several of the current food vendors currently leave closer to 24 inches open space. The six feet should not include the area customers stand, but rather six feet clear and open sidewalk. Additionally bike lanes are being used for parking at a minimum of three food vendors and that should be addressed in any ordinance. It’s important to acknowledge the City of Palm Springs has recognized that a minimum of six feet unobstructed space is needed to prevent obstruction of the public right of way. This acknowledgement means the restaurants reducing public right of way to less than six feet clear and open space free of customers, sales and waiting customers should be outside the area reduced in width by way of a business using public property. Please know I plan to pull a street vendor permit for the downtown area, however, fully accept any ban on all commerce within 25 feet of Palm Canyon Drive in the greater downtown. I have a couple of potential concepts, one would be a fixed location in front of Destination PSP selling mid-mod tees and similar merchandise, the other being a fixed location near Crystal Fantasy selling jewelry and gemstones. Thank You Matt Robinson 11/28/2022 Public Comment Item 3C