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Date:Thursday, November 10, 2022 5:38:49 PM
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Michael John Horne
City of Residence/Ciudad de residencia
Palm Springs,
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Dear Mayor Middleton & Councilmembers, I am writing to express my support for the proposed changes to
Municipal Code 5.77, pertaining to the adult oriented business. I currently own and operate a successful “adult
oriented men’s club” in Los Angeles, CA. I also own property at 531 E Industrial Place in Palm Springs. This is
property is currently zoned CM (Commercial Manufacturing) and meets the “Adult Use” criteria to operate per the
new ordinance. The Tahquitz Creek wash runs several feet behind and separates my property from new residential
homes under construction (less than 500 feet). I respectfully request you consider adding a waiver process, due to
the unique characteristics of the cities industrial area. In addition, not all “adult use ordinances” are equally the
same. I operate a private membership club and request the use be under spas and clothing optional hotels not as
sex clubs. I offer privacy just like the hotel and spas noted in the ordinance. Thank you Michael J Horne
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City of Palm Springs
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From:City of Palm Springs
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Date:Thursday, November 10, 2022 5:20:16 PM
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Rodney Perkins
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I’m concerned about the enforceability and privacy of some of these proposed regulations. A 90-day residency is in
direct contrast against the foundation of this city as a resort destination. It seems quite unenforceable unless time
clocks are installed at the airport where non-locals would be required to clock in when they arrive and clock out
upon departure. Additionally the city should consider employing ICE officers at all major roads into city to record
when non-resident owners enter and leave the city. This will ensure that 90-day residency requirements are met.
Clearly these resolutions are ridiculous, just as a 90-day residency requirement. Additionally the discrimination
against any couple (each individual not allowed to permit a maximum of one VR) is a violation of a California
protected class. Finally I’m don’t know why further regulations are necessary, appears the current ordinance is
working fine as council members stated. Please reconsider these further regulations
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City of Palm Springs
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November 10, 2022
Palm Springs City Council
3200 East Tahquitz Canyon Way
Palm Springs, CA 92262
Dear Council Members:
The progressive revisions proposed to the Palm Springs Adult-Oriented
business ordinance make a good start to keep pace with other jurisdictions
including Los Angeles, San Diego and San Francisco.
My concern is that the even with the revisions, the definition of an ‘Adult Sex
Venue’ is so broad that it still includes my private life and personal spaces.
The last sentence states that ‘The above notwithstanding, an “adult sex
venue” is also any place which that represents itself to any person or group of
persons as a place for persons to engage in specified sexual activities”
By that definition, inviting someone to my home for intimate time is a
violation.
The LGBTQ+ community is already under pressure from all corners and to
have verbiage that would enable arbitrary consideration of my private property
to be an ‘adult sex venue’ goes too far. I request the final sentence be
removed, or that the language be clarified to make it clear that noncommercial
venues, such as private homes, are not included.
Attached please find my recommendation for a revised ‘adult sex venue’
definition.
Thank you so much for your help.
Sincerely,
Tim Hadorn
760-820-2859
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5.77.010 Definitions
“ Sex club Adult sex venue ” means any establishment not primarily dedicated to providing
overnight lodging accommodations, including a private club, which as a regular and substantial
course of conduct permits persons to engage in specified sexual activities in any public or
semipublic portion of the establishment or which provides any private room to persons more
than once in a twenty-hour period in which persons are permitted to engage in specified sexual
activities. For the purpose of this section, a “public or semipublic portion of an establishment”
shall mean any portion of the establishment in which invitees of the establishment are permitted
access and which is not let, leased or rented more than once in a twenty-hour period to persons
who are entitled to exclusive use of the room. The above notwithstanding, an “Sex club adult
sex venue” is also any place which that represents itself to any person or group of persons as a
place for persons to engage in specified sexual activities
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From:John McBain
To:City Clerk; CityManager; Lisa Middleton; Dennis Woods; Grace Garner; Geoff Kors; Christy Holstege
Subject:Support of Proposed Update to Municipal Code 5.77
Date:Thursday, November 10, 2022 9:28:37 AM
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I am writing today to express my support for the proposed changes to Municipal Code 5.77
pertaining to Adult Oriented businesses and repeal of Chapter 11.10 pertaining to public
nudity. I know this is on tonight's meeting agenda and I wish to express my support.
I believe it is important for our council to update our municipal codes to remain current and to
maintain proper standards. I encourage the council members to vote in the affirmative to
approve this change as it has been written.
Should you need me to speak at the meeting I can be reached at 760.408.2012 otherwise
please see that this message is shared with the council members.
Your support for our community is greatly appreciated. I thank you all for your generous
service.
Sincerely,
John
John McBain, Owner
Gear
760.408.2012 Phone
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From:Susan
To:City Clerk; CityManager; Lisa Middleton; Geoff Kors; Grace Garner; Christy Holstege; Dennis Woods
Subject:Nude clubs, Adult sex orientated
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Date:Wednesday, November 9, 2022 3:13:41 PM
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November 9 2022
City of Palm Springs Manager, Mayor Middleton, Council Kors, Woods, Garner, Holstege:
I object to any change or modification to the ordinance of 1995. We need not change to allow
Adult Sex venues, outlets or the like in this city because:
1. The city currently is understaffed for Peace Officers.. any sort of sex club..'hard or soft on
any level' (no pun intended) ought to be allowed in this city at this time.
2. By changing ordinance now with so many, many real problems and issues in the city
concerning crime, trespass, the fact that the local police force is unable to respond to calls
from residents now for incidents of concern be it disturbances, gun shots, trespass, theft,
burglaries, drunk or stoned drivers or speeding. This is a very bad time to run our police
department to more disturbances that surely will happen with the proposed allowable long
laundry list of permissions.
3. Please table and close this matter. This is objectionable when this city needs to focus on
many much more important matters such as actually doing something about cleaning up the
city, making it safer, taking the vagrants away from downtown or around venues that exist.
4. Please focus on clear ordinances to house, provide services to veterans who are homeless or
living in awful substandard places. Help low income seniors.. I call to try to help seniors yet
ALL of the low income, affordable housing has a wait list of 1-2 years or longer for a one
bedroom and 3+ years for a two bedroom.
5. City staff today farms out work product yet you propose opening a can of worms like this
that will take focus away from backlog of city services for such that will over burden not just
police but planning, building dept staff and enforcement.
6. In 1995 the current ordinance was in place for good cause. There is still good cause to
maintain this ordinance
7. The city is not able to keep up with current services, permitted building projects sitting
for months and years .
8. The proposed changes are objectionable as well with18 year olds permitted where alcohol is
not served. A nude club allowing teenagers is wrong. And you do not specify teenagers may
not imbibe in cannabis or the like or may not smoke cigarettes, etc. #14 page 16.
9. The fact that a room can be subrented multiple times in a 12 hour period..this just smacks of
whore house, brothel. Palm Springs is not the Nevada bunny ranch and we need not have
anything of the sort within city limits. This is wrong per #1. - 3 less than ten hour room rentals
with sub rented multi times allowance.
10 In 1995 AIDs caused horrific deaths in the hundreds of thousands. Allowing this ordinance
is an opportunity for AIDs to kill many more. Then Monkeypox is at issue with its contagious
spread.
11. What does County of Riverside health department say now to the fact at Reforma within
former Robinsons historical building, shows Drag Queen with exposed butt with sheer see
through panel walking around dining tables, stopping to squat, sit on laps while visitors are
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eating?
https://www.facebook.com/reel/846112703399678/?s=single_unit
12. Pride parade, a video clip here of man with exposed buttocks in Marilyn dress on stilts
with man following with a lawn leaf blower that lifts the skirt to show buttocks, genitals,
scantily covered jock. I think Pride parade management ought to have stopped this or pulled
the guy on stilts exposing himself to the public and the many children attending.
https://www.facebook.com/reel/944645203161279?group_id=245928299241576&s=group
13. We can anticipate the same kind of spectacles pouring over and out onto city streets from
Adult Sex clubs, lounges, cabarets too.
14. Age limits must be 21 and over..just as in buying liquor, cigarettes, pot. A distance of 1000
feet from one another, from schools, churches, senior or low income type residential or
commercial venues ought to be enforced if this absurdity proceeds.
15. Proprietors, staff with sex or drug misdemeanors or felony record must not be allowed to
own, apply or work there, period. City police must run full background checks on all
applications. Proprieters must run background checks on all who work or perform at the adult
sex operations. If anyone affiliated in any way has a sex, drug related misdemeanor or felon
record, they are fined and permanent stay away orders issued so that they must stay away at
least a mile from the establishment and not be permitted in the area.
16. to take away parking, to take away HC to allow on Hwy 111 at some point is all wrong
too.
Personally, I think overall that this will negatively influence the city and that this city ought to
deny any such change in the current 1995 ordinance.
This is overall a bad ordinance. The city leads are here to provide a safe, healthy place for
residents. We are a small town. We need to leave the Adult Sex scene to larger cities like San
Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego. Table the changes, close the matter. Or next election,
place this up for public vote, consideration for all citizens to choose whether they wish Palm
Springs to be a healthy resort with focus on our great weather, outdoor healthy activities
centered around walking, hiking, golf, tennis, swimming and fine dining. Or do we cater to
Vegas style, dark side adult sex, brothel risky, red light district crapola. This is not Art, this is
sex trade explicit.
All due respect. This proposal is wrong. Please leave the current ordinance in effect for the
betterment of our community. Thank you.
Susan Cogl
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