HomeMy WebLinkAbout3A - Public CommentsFrom:City of Palm Springs
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Date:Thursday, November 10, 2022 5:29:39 PM
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I want to voice my support of the existing guidelines and current limits for VR in the City of Palm Springs. As an
owner/operator of a VR in the city, we feel that punishing legally operating VRs that drive significant revenue to the
City of Palm Springs is not necessary. For existing owner/operators that follow the rules and guideline, it is onerous
to reduce the number of annual contracts. A more appropriate solution, would be a more rigorous program to
either enforce the rules on property owners that currently operate outside the guidelines or don't file the require
documents and/or TOT forms/payments. Identifying non-compliant VRs and either bringing them from nuisance
status to compliant, as well as revoking repeat violators. These measures in and of themselves would solve the
problem this ordinance is seeking to solve. Quite the opposite will likely be the effect if this ordinance passes, as
more and more people will operate outside the city guidelines.
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From:City of Palm Springs
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Date:Thursday, November 10, 2022 5:33:31 PM
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Mary (Katie) Harms
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We started the short term rental process 2 days after we closed on our property in July. This property was used as a
short term rental with the previous owners. We were approved at inspection that was delayed due to covid, and
told in an email that the certificated would be processed this week . I spent 8 years on a planning commission and
am familiar with moratoriums. Never have I seen one where those who were in process were also delayed. We have
significant financial investment into a remodel and purchase and we did our due diligence to make sure we could
short term rent prior to purchase. In addition our HOA allows it. Please consider letting those who had approval and
were in the process finish. Thank you.
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From:City of Palm Springs
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Date:Thursday, November 10, 2022 5:41:09 PM
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Maritza Barajas
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I am against the 90 day policy.
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City of Palm Springs
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From:City of Palm Springs
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Date:Thursday, November 10, 2022 5:49:41 PM
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Guillermo Tejada
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I oppose the 90 day requirement as it will have a negative financial and logistical impact on my personal life. It will
also limit when families can visit Palm Springs as a getaway, having a negative impact with the local economy of
Palm Springs.
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From:City of Palm Springs
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Date:Friday, November 11, 2022 6:01:01 AM
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angela crandall
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Hello, I own a vacation rental in Palm Springs and a couple vacation rentals in Bend, Oregon. I want to share with
you the restrictions and requirements that Bend put in place in 2014 that has been very successful for the city.
Bend, Oregon has a 250 foot restriction requirement. If a home already has a STR license, a new license for a STR
can not be given out if there is another STR home within 250 feet of the existing license. This has kept a high
percentage of the neighborhoods owner occupied by allowing just a sprinkle of STR's. With this A license, you can
rent out your home unlimited times a year. The class B license does not have the distant restrictions and you can
only rent out your home 4 times a year as a STR. The city of Bend does not require you to fill out monthly forms of
reservations as they keep track because the rental platforms submit the taxes to the city with the amount of taxes
collected with each reservation. This has made their accounting a lot easier.
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Dear Councilmember Holstege,
I am a homeowner and taxpayer of two years in the Little Tuscany neighborhood in Palm Springs and am
emailing in regard to this evening's council meeting about vacation rentals. I unfortunately cannot
attend the meeting in person.
I completely understand the need to institute careful and thoughtful regulations in this space (and
totally support the current regulations), but some of the new potential regulations seem to defy logic or
a basic sense of fairness and good policymaking:
• Junior Permit: If the goal of the council is to institute fewer vacation rental, then why on earth
would they penalize homeowners by forcing them into a "junior" permit if they choose to rent
out few times in a year? I do not rent out my house as a business -- it is strictly supplemental
income for me to be able to afford my monthly mortgage payment, while I plan longer term to
retire in PS. Some years, depending on my work schedule and income, I plan to rent it out less
and some years more. The current proposal would penalize me me for choosing to drop below
the 7 rentals per year, below which you are then locked into not being able to ever rent more
than this. I shouldn't need to point out how this would seem unfair and illogical. It would
actually have the reverse effect because I would just rent out my house *more* than I intend to
just to not get locked into the junior permit.
• Residency Requirement: If the city is requiring vacation rental permit holders to attest to this,
then it would seem hypocritical not to also require this of *all* second home owners. I can't
imagine any of this is even legal -- but regardless, seems really lopsided to only apply to some
vacation homeowners and not others.
Honestly, I am disappointed I would even need to take an hour out of my date to write to you regarding
this issue. It truly seems like it would be a huge miss for the council to enact draconian penalties for your
residents and taxpayers who are actually helping to contribute to the vibrant community that we all
know Palm Springs is. I hope you all do the right thing and what I imagine the gross majority of residents
and business owners support.
Thank you for considering my views and I hope that you will take them into account in this matter even
if I am not residing in your district (there is seemingly no way to look this up on the city website just so
you are aware).
And by the way -- loved your cameo on Trixie Motel! That's just a few blocks down the street from me!
Thank you,
Eric LoVecchio
2301 N Cardillo Ave.
323-491-7088
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From: Chris B <christinebinge@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2022 9:10 AM
To: CityManager <CityManager@palmspringsca.gov>
Subject: Fwd: Disappointed and also need neighborhood cap map info ASAP
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Forwarding this message to have this comment be added to the public records:
In Oregon there was a LUBA decision that specifically ruled you can not take away a non-conforming
use, and the permit to operate and STR goes with the land and use, not the owner. I am very interested
to see what legal challenges you have opened the city to with this decision and what new challenges
from the existing str rules, you have opened eyes to.
From: Chris B <christinebinge@yahoo.com>
Date: November 11, 2022 at 9:02:55 AM PST
To: Lisa Middleton <Lisa.Middleton@palmspringsca.gov>, Dennis Woods
<Dennis.Woods@palmspringsca.gov>, Christy Holstege <Christy.Holstege@palmspringsca.gov>, Grace
Garner <Grace.Garner@palmspringsca.gov>, Llubi Rios <Llubi.Rios@palmspringsca.gov>, Geoff Kors
<Geoff.Kors@palmspringsca.gov>
Subject: Disappointed and also need neighborhood cap map info ASAP
I am extremely disappointed in the decision you made to enact this measure that hurt so many
homeowners ( non str and str owners alike),business owners, families, single working mothers,
travelers, and the local work force last night. You heard their voices last night and ignored them all. I
believe you all had your minds made up before you walked in the door last night, which is unfortunate,
as you heard last night, many just found out about your decision to rule on this.
Decisions were made by council members without expert data. The data you received was provided by
a str work group with individuals, that are not experts on the impact of our local economy, and frankly
lacked the expert education and resources needed. The economic impact study these individuals
provided consisted of 4 magazine and journal articles found on the internet through a google search. I
am in awe of the incompetence here that led to this unnecessary and damaging ruling.
As a realtor and home owner, my buyers and sellers need to know exactly where their home is located
on the “neighborhood” cap map, as the map I saw from the study group didn’t have clearly defined
lines or neighborhoods. Where is the the living document that I can show my clients exactly where
there home is located and the current cap rate?
Maybe you haven’t thought about the information we would need due to your decision last night. I
wouldn’t be surprised.
Please send me this information ASAP.
And yes please go ahead and post this in the public comment section. We need more transparency on
how poor decisions like this are being made. This isn’t your backyard or my backyard. This is America’s
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back yard. You have succeeded in restricting land use that will have a negative impact on many
individuals.
In Oregon there was a LUBA decision that specifically ruled you can not take away a non-conforming
use, and the permit to operate and STR goes with the land and use, not the owner. I am very interested
to see what legal challenges you have opened the city to with this decision and what new challenges
from the existing str rules, you have opened eyes to.
Christine
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From:City of Palm Springs
To:City Clerk; City Clerk
Subject:*NEW SUBMISSION* Submit Public Comment to the City of Palm Springs
Date:Saturday, November 12, 2022 2:51:28 PM
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I would ask the Palm Springs city council to please reconsider the 90 day residency requirements for short term
rentals. I have owned my condo in Palm Springs for four years, requiring me to stay in PS for 90 days a year in order
to keep my permit would be a financial disaster for me. I am barely recovering from the Covid financial hardship and
you want to throw this at us. We pay taxes, follow your rules add big money to the PS economy and you want to do
this. Perhaps grandfather those of us that have followed the rules, but please reconsider this. My plan is to move full
time to PS at retirement, but I have a few more years to go and this is very important to my long term plan.
Thank you,
City of Palm Springs
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From:Kathy Longo
To:City Clerk
Cc:Kathy Longo; Jay Pluimer
Subject:Public Comment on Item 3A
Date:Thursday, November 10, 2022 3:06:41 PM
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Hello,
We are taxpayers and huge fan of Palm Springs so much that we bought a second place in
Racquet Club Estates last year. Our home is also being rented to help with the affordability of
having a second home there.
We are concerned that the decision tonight has not been fully researched and will have
significant financial impact. Here are two of our top concerns for the city:
Tourism will be impacted: I know if we are limited in the number of times that we can rent
that we will absolutely NOT allow our house to be rented during the slower months which will
impact the shops, restaurants and other attractions focused on tourism. This will also impact
the TOT that we pay to the city. We had thirteen rentals from when we listed in May this year
to the end of October.
Housing Values: I am concerned with the impact to housing values especially in areas that
have more rentals like our neighborhood. This will impact others from wanting to buy in our
area and push housing values down. This will also impact new owners coming in and
improving their property as new owners tend to invest in their property. This is concerning on
top of rising interest rates which are also impacting house values.
We encourage the decision makers to take the time to fully research the financial impact to the
city and the taxpayers of the city.
Thank you!
Kathy Longo & Jay Pluimer
612-968-4414
814 E. Grace Circle
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From:Michael Lipp
To:City Clerk
Subject:City Council Meeting Item 3A (November 10th, 2022)
Date:Thursday, November 10, 2022 3:01:04 PM
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Dear City Council Members,
My name is Adriana, and my Husband's name is Michael. We are tax paying
citizens to the city of Palm Springs. We purchased our home last year as a second
home for us to vacation and rent it out short-term when we are not using it. We
purchased our home based on the currently voted current. If the new changes are
passed, it will have significant impact and hardship for us. Not only will it affect us, but
it will also have a significant impact on our community! Below is a list of reasons
to strongly consider before making these new proposed changes.
1. There are no studies on the impact on tourism these new changes would have in
Palm Springs to our stores, restaurants, events, attractions, etc.
2. There is uncertainty on how these changes will affect the housing market, property
values and property tax revenue
3. There will be less TOT dollars collected by the City could mean cuts to Police, Fire
and EMT services
4. No data has been presented by the City to indicate justifying these actions
5. There is no data from the City on how neighborhood density will positively or
negatively affect neighborhood home prices.
6. No data has been presented by the City regarding the likely loss of tourists and
their spending dollars in Palm Springs
7. Making these severe changes without any evidence of the impact on Palm Springs
as economic uncertainty looms seems risky at this time with an impending
recession
8. No studies have been done on how these changes will affect local jobs both within
and outside the vacation rental community
9. Vacation Rental owners are ambassadors for Palm Springs making it a world class
tourist destination
Thank you for your time,
Adriana & Michael
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From:City of Palm Springs
To:City Clerk; City Clerk
Subject:*NEW SUBMISSION* Submit Public Comment to the City of Palm Springs
Date:Thursday, November 10, 2022 2:17:18 PM
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Please reconsider and keep the system in place that is a great balance and is working for everyone that I know in PS.
Thank you,
City of Palm Springs
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Date:Thursday, November 10, 2022 1:27:14 PM
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If you don’t like the sound of airplanes then don’t buy a house near the airport. Palm Springs was built on tourism
and part of tourism is gatherings of large people that make noise from time to time. If you want a nice quiet
neighborhood, move.
Thank you,
City of Palm Springs
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Date:Thursday, November 10, 2022 1:10:23 PM
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Hi, I would like to comment on the proposed changes to short term rental properties. I'm currently a homeowner
that rents my property via short term rentals. I have been renting for years without any complaints or issues. I
believe enforcement of the current rules/regulations is more important than punishing current short term rentals.
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City of Palm Springs
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Mark Carnevale
32-325 Date Pal Dr #111
760-413-8339
nico4gk@aol.com
November 10, 20022
Dear Mayor, and city council, the purpose of this letter is reference to
Levon Asian. I understand he is in the process of investing in Palm
Springs with his business. Levon has had projects in Cathedral City and
has cooperated in every aspect of his development within. His
devlopment team has bee n a pleasure to work with. Levon is the type
of business Coachella Valley needs to grow the valley. I hope that Palm
Spring welcome Levon's Cathedral City has.
Respectfully,
Mark Carnevale
760-413-8339
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From: Janney, Evan <evan.janney@bpapartments.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 7:48 PM
To: Llubi Rios <Llubi.Rios@palmspringsca.gov>
Cc: stevenc310@gmail.com
Subject: FW: 1645 S. Sunrise Way 92264 Paperwork Status
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Dear Llubi Rios and all others in the offices of the Mayor and City Counsel,
I hope you are well. While I understand the recent Moratorium regarding a freeze on short term rentals
in Palm Springs, my partner and I applied for our permit on Monday, August 8th, 2022 and passed the
inspection on Wednesday, September 21st, 2022 (approved inspection attached here) and were only
pending the actual certificate. This was prior to the City Council’s September 29th agenda being posted
to the public on September 22nd, 2022, and not part of “a “rush” on vacation rental applications” as
stated in the October 17th, 2022 City Council Staff Report. There was no way for us to have known that a
pause could have been placed on processing VRCs and if we had, we would not have taken time off from
work to both file for a certificate and meet with the inspector as well as incurring the expenses
necessary to receive application approval since we purchased the home on September 30th, 2020.
Given the timing of the above information and information posted on the PalmSpringsca.gov website
stating that application after September 22nd might be denied, we are requesting reconsideration of
approval (ie: just providing us the printed certificate) of our application for a Vacation Rental Certificate
so that we may make the income needed to help pay our mortgage. Please reply all.
Thank you,
Evan Janney & Steven Correa
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Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 1:24 PM
To: Veronica Goedhart <Veronica.Goedhart@palmspringsca.gov>
Cc: Shantel Sterling <Shantel.Sterling@palmspringsca.gov>; John Stamback-Sawyer <John.Stamback-
Sawyer@palmspringsca.gov>; Janney, Evan <evan.janney@bpapartments.com>; Steven Correa
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understood. thank you, Veronica.
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On Oct 20, 2022, at 1:20 PM, Veronica Goedhart <Veronica.Goedhart@palmspringsca.gov> wrote:
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The soonest a decision by Councill may be made is late November; however, there is no
guarantee. Permits that are currently issued will be grandfathered in. New permits are
subject to the new regulations.
Veronica E. Goedhart
Director, Department of Special Program Compliance
Office – 760-322-8370 / Ext. 8370
Email: veronica.goedhart@palmspringsca.gov
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From: Evan Janney <emjanney@icloud.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 5:58 PM
To: Veronica Goedhart <Veronica.Goedhart@palmspringsca.gov>
Cc: Shantel Sterling <Shantel.Sterling@palmspringsca.gov>; John Stamback-Sawyer <John.Stamback-
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Hi Veronica,
Thank you and I appreciate you responding, but please let me clarify my previous question: when is the
soonest a decision by Counsel might be made? Is that what the draft ordinance in December might be
for?
I ask because if the freeze is indefinite, we would look into just selling the home instead of pursuing a
rental option. If there is the possibility that this ban could be lifted as early as December/January we
would just continue to pay the mortgage until we are able to rent.
In addition, I’d like confirmation that this is a true freeze on the current application process and that we
would be grandfathered in to current requirements once Vacation Rental Ordinances resume being
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given. I do not believe we should be required to pay additional fees, schedule new inspections, etc. once
that time comes. Please confirm.
Thank you,
Evan and Steven
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On Oct 19, 2022, at 4:52 PM, Veronica Goedhart <Veronica.Goedhart@palmspringsca.gov> wrote:
Hi Evan –
Cit y Council provided subst ant ial direct ion t o Cit y st aff for t he ordinance revisions;
however, there are many items to be resolved. There is no way we can say with certainty
what items the Council will adopt. As Mayor Middleton stated at the meeting, until the
second reading of the ordinance we do not know with certainty what will be changed.
Veronica E. Goedhart
Director, Department of Special Program Compliance
Office – 760-322-8370 / Ext. 8370
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Subject: FW: 1645 S. Sunrise Way 92264 Paperwork Status
From: Janney, Evan <evan.janney@bpapartments.com>
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To: Vacation Rentals <Vacation.Rentals@palmspringsca.gov>
Cc: Steven Correa <scorrea@rsi-ins.com>; Evan Janney <emjanney@icloud.com>
Subject: Re: 1645 S. Sunrise Way 92264 Paperwork Status
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Thank you. But, would you please help clarify what is meant by "Confirmation will surely vary, and the
most concrete action will be illustrated in a draft ordinance coming to Council in December."? I'm not
sure I understand.
Thank you,
Evan
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From: Vacation Rentals <Vacation.Rentals@palmspringsca.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 4:30:28 PM
To: Janney, Evan <evan.janney@bpapartments.com>
Cc: Steven Correa <scorrea@rsi-ins.com>; Evan Janney <emjanney@icloud.com>
Subject: RE: 1645 S. Sunrise Way 92264 Paperwork Status
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The Urgency Moratorium supersedes the post our our webpage prior to Council’s meeting. At this time,
City Council and City staff are in discussions regarding the Vacation Rental Ordinance recommendations
as presented at the 10.17.22. There is no guarantee if any; part, or none of the recommendation will be
adopted. You have done the correct thing with communicating to the City Council your thoughts and
concerns. Feedback like this is important in the decision-making process.
Confirmation will surely vary, and the most concrete action will be illustrated in a draft ordinance
coming to Council in December.
Thank you for your time we appreciate your concerns.
John Stamback-Sawyer | Account Clerk II
Department of Special Program Compliance | Office of the City Manager
425 N Civic Drive, Palm Springs, CA 92262
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John et al,
Thank you for your quick response. While I understand the Moratorium, per the PalmSpringsCA.Gov
website, “If you have applied after September 22nd, 2022, there is a possibility that the application may
be returned to you and a Vacation Rental Certificate (VRCs) will not be issued” (screenshot below). We
applied for our permit on Monday, August 8th, 2022 and passed the inspection on Wednesday,
September 21st, 2022 (approved inspection attached here) and were only pending the actual certificate.
This was prior to the City Council’s September 29th agenda being posted to the public on September
22nd, 2022, and not part of “a “rush” on vacation rental applications” as stated in the October 17th, 2022
City Council Staff Report. There was no way for us to have known that a pause could have been placed
on processing VRCs and if we had, we would not have taken time off from work to both file for a
certificate and meet with the inspector as well as incurring the expenses necessary to receive
application approval since we purchased the home on September 30th, 2020.
Given the timing of the above information and information posted on your website, we are requesting
reconsideration of approval (ie: just providing us the printed certificate) of our application for a Vacation
Rental Certificate or we will continue to escalate the issue. Please reply all. Thank you.
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From: Vacation Rentals <Vacation.Rentals@palmspringsca.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 3:46 PM
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Good afternoon, unfortunately we have received clarification regarding new permits and we will not be
processing any new applications that are in queue under the Moratorium, regardless of the date the
application was received. You may view this clarification from last week’s City Council meeting on video.
It is located at 3.30.06 in the video. https://palmspringsca.new.swagit.com/videos/186741.
Thank you,
John Stamback-Sawyer | Account Clerk II
Department of Special Program Compliance | Office of the City Manager
425 N Civic Drive, Palm Springs, CA 92262
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Dear Palm Springs Special Program Compliance Teams,
We was hoping to check on the status of our paperwork for our home at 1645 S. Sunrise Way. Our
inspection was approved on 09/21/2022 by Dave Williams (who was very knowledgeable and great to
work with). Once we receive our paperwork we will begin advertising our home to those renters looking
to add monies to Palm Springs’ economy.
Thank you,
Evan Janney & Steven Correa
323-493-4887
Thank you,
Evan Janney
Floating Manager – CA Region
Multifamily
evan.janney@bpapartments.com
https://rent.brookfieldproperties.com/
Brookfield
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Good evening, My family has a home here in Palm Springs that they have owned for 30 years. My parents wintered
here for 20 years which is something I plan to do when I retire. It is currently permitted as a vacation rental to offset
some of the costs. My family currently uses the home 9 weeks per year. We have restricted it to no kids, no pets and
4+ days to discourage weekenders. We also don’t rent the property during festivals. Currently we have 2 - long term
guests scheduled for January - March. I think that there are other solutions rather than the hard rule of requiring
owners to stay at their homes for a minimum of 90 days. I know that the pandemic created a frenzy of visitors to the
desert. It is my understanding that this demand has waned. I encourage the council to wait for the rental and real
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In regard to the newly proposed short-term rental regulations in front of the City Council, I'm writing to give my
public comments in opposition to these measures. Palm Springs has long been a vacation destination and the
revenue generated from short term home rentals is significant for city residents and our local economy as a whole.
Reducing the number of allowed contracts from 36 to 24, restricting the number of permits issued by
neighborhood, and requiring permit holders to occupy their non-primary revenue-generating residential properties
will no doubt result in negative effects on the local economy, as these measures would erode permit fees and taxes
that contribute to the well-being of all citizens. The current regulations work. The people spoke volumes in 2018 by
defeating Measure C with an overwhelming 70% in opposition. I implore you not to further restrict our rights as
property owners who continue greatly to our local economy for the benefit of all Palm Springs citizens.
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In regard to the newly proposed short-term rental regulations in front of the City Council, I'm writing to give my
public comments in opposition to these measures. Palm Springs has long been a vacation destination and the
revenue generated from short term home rentals is significant for city residents and our local economy as a whole.
Reducing the number of allowed contracts from 36 to 24, restricting the number of permits issued by
neighborhood, and requiring permit holders to occupy their non-primary revenue-generating residential properties
will no doubt result in negative effects on the local economy, as these measures would erode permit fees and taxes
that contribute to the well-being of all citizens. The current regulations work. The people spoke volumes in 2018 by
defeating Measure C with an overwhelming 70% in opposition. I implore you not to further restrict our rights as
property owners who contribute greatly to our local economy for the benefit of all Palm Springs citizens.
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From:Jamie Adner
To:Lisa Middleton; City Clerk
Subject:Comments to council meeting on November 10th, item 3A: AMENDING AND RESTATING CHAPTER 5.25
REGARDING VACATION RENTALS
Date:Thursday, November 10, 2022 11:41:19 AM
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To honorable City Council members:
My name is James Adner and I am a full-time resident of Palm Springs.
I am a Realtor and have been selling homes in Palm Springs since 2011.
I applaud the City Council in its efforts to find a “middle ground” on STR issues.
I am writing to strongly oppose two issues: 1) limiting STR contracts to 24 per year;
and 2) instituting neighborhood caps.
Both measures will have negative, inhibitory effects on the local real estate market
and will lead to a decline in home values.
We are in a challenging real estate market:
Mortgage rates are the highest in 20 years. They were 3% at the beginning of
the year. They are 7% now.
Sales in Palm Springs have plummeted. In the past 30 days, 52 homes sold. In
the same period last year, 87 homes were sold, a decline of 29%.
Median price is down 11% from a year ago.
Limiting owners to 24 contracts amounts to a one-third reduction of the income
potential of a home.
Prices will decline immediately as buyers reappraise homes based on the one-third
reduction in income.
As prices decline, some owners will find themselves “underwater” leading to a repeat
of the 2008 - 2012 real estate crisis where there were foreclosures and short sales on
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every block.
Capping permits in neighborhoods with a high density of STRs amounts to a
“moratorium” on permits in these neighborhoods.
Prices will decline as fewer buyers seek to buy homes in these high-density STR
neighborhoods.
And how will this neighborhood cap be administered?
There will be total chaos unless the city can affirm at the time a contract is written
whether or not a buyer can obtain an STR permit.
The cap will lead to permit “hoarding”, waitlists, administrative costs and
management.
The neighborhood cap is a “zero sum game”. Homeowners who once enjoyed quiet
neighborhoods might object to the prevalence of STRs as new arrivals – banned from
the high-density neighborhoods – settle in their neighborhoods.
We are in the middle of an economic “tornado”. I believe it is imprudent to limit
contracts to 24 and create neighborhood caps given the jeopardy they pose to the
already-challenged Palm Springs real estate market.
Sincerely,
James Adner
1128 E San Lorenzo Rd, Palm Springs, CA 92264
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I am a home owner in the Movie Colony East neighborhood of Central Palm Springs. As I am only a part time
resident, also living outside the area throughout the year, I am requesting that you do NOT change any of the
current regulations for vacation rental properties. I will be a loyal, long term taxpayer and continue to contribute
financially to the prosperity of the region. If additional restrictions are implemented, myself and thousands of
property owners will strongly consider vacating the market altogether which will have long term adverse
consequences. Please vote down any additional restrictions. Todd Bell
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Dear Mayor Middleton, Councilmembers Geoff Kors, Christy Holstege, Dennis Woods and Grace Garner. Public
Comment: Re: Agenda Item 3A. I would like to voice my strong concern over the proposed restrictions to current
and future vacation rental permits. The city residents strongly supported vacation rentals during the Measure C
vote, with 70% in favor of supporting vacation rentals. The current vacation rental ordinance is working and
continues to be a model for other cities. Additionally, I'm in support of carving out a separate permit for condos or
"junior permits" which allows owners to rent for short periods of time. I think this will be helpful for the owners who
have previously not applied for a permit because of the high cost. The proposed draft changes are extremely
onerous and not supported by any factual data to suggest adding these restrictions. Warm Regards, Kelly McLean
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I would like to comment on Item 3A of the PS City Council Meeting tonight, Nov. 10, 2022. This item concerns the
use of Vacation Rentals as Event Houses. I fully endorse the regulation that vacation rentals CANNOT be used as
event houses. Our city and its full-time citizens do not need the additional noise, traffic, parking, and disruptive
nature of event houses in our neighborhoods. The events can occur at hotels, civic gathering places, and prescribed
event locations while contributing to local businesses (caterers, floral designers, musicians, etc.). Keep the events in
areas zoned for them. Please keep events out of vacation rentals. Thank you. Rebecca M. Hendrickson
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From: Daria Lightner <psppropertycare@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2022 1:56 PM
To: Christy Holstege <Christy.Holstege@palmspringsca.gov>
Subject: Proposed Vacation Rental Revisions
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Dear Councilmember Christy Holstege,
I am a 20-year resident and small business owner in Palm Springs. I currently own a home in the
Tahquitz River Estates neighborhood. Like many folks, my wife and I vacationed in Palm Springs before
settling here permanently. We fell in love with the resort town for many reasons including the sunny
weather, multitude of recreational activities, village atmosphere and the inclusive diverse
population. As a result, we completely changed our career direction from corporate banking on the East
Coast and moved to PS to establish our own small business in the hospitality / real estate industry. As a
small business owner and property owner, I am deeply concerned about the impact on tourism that
these proposed ordinance changes will mean for the City's stakeholders. Several of the vacation rental
recommendations appear to be arbitrary figures with no data to support either the recommendation or
the economic impact on Palm Springs. No studies have been performed on these particular
recommendations and how these changes may affect local jobs, tourist traffic, property values and our
local economy. These drastic changes seem risky and ill timed considering the country's current
economic uncertainty and impending recession.
The premise of these changes states that the Council's intention is to ensure that the incidental short
term rental use of residential property remains an ancillary and secondary use of residential property.
By definition, this statement acknowledges vacation rentals as second homes and not primary
residences. An attempt to force second homeowners to uproot their lives and move from their primary
residences to their vacation homes for 90 days is not practical. Individuals have commitments with jobs,
caring for elderly parents, children in schools and cannot simply disrupt their lives by moving across
states and in many cases across countries to live in their PS vacation property. The bedrock of Palm
Springs developed as a second home destination. According to the 2020 US Census, 1/3 of all Palm
Springs homes are not full-time "owner occupied" residences classified as "vacant" and are not being
used as vacation rentals. Imposing a futile restriction on vacation rental property homeowners to
merely try and boost a false residency rate goes against this City's charter as a resort destination. Palm
Springs is a world class tourist destination. We should be embracing it and not trying to change it.
I respectfully implore the Council to reconsider these ordinance changes until more thought and
consideration can occur to justify them and prevent a potentially harmful outcome to our City.
Sincerely,
Daria Lightner
Daria Lightner, Realtor
CA License #01747695
PSP Property Care Services
1717 E. Vista Chino, Ste A7-113
Palm Springs, CA. 92262
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From: Drew Fenton <dfenton@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2022 10:50 AM
To: Christy Holstege <Christy.Holstege@palmspringsca.gov>
Subject: Do NOT change the number of annual contracts for those with existing vacation rental
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Dear Council Member,
My proposal is to grandfather those of us who already have certificates to allow 32 plus 4 contracts per year permanently. Eventually the current number of these certificates would decrease by attrition due to the selling of homes or owners moving elsewhere. This would be a fairer way to achieve your goal.
About me:
I am a 100% service-connected disabled veteran and a former emergency medicine doctor. Due to my disability, I am no longer able to practice emergency medicine, so I needed another source of income. At great expense and effort, I rehabilitated my then unlivable 1936 home in the Warm Sands neighborhood and made it a vacation rental.
The proposed ordinance would change the rules for me in the middle of the game. If I had 12 less rentals per year, I would not be able to meet expenses and repay my building expenses. My retirement income would disappear. I might have to sell the home which would alter my plans to eventually retire in Palm Springs. I might have to retrain in another area of medicine, which would be a formidable undertaking at age 66, or get another type of job. It would impact the financial welfare of my two children as well, one in college and the other a minor.
My 1936 Warm Sands home involved years of labor and a lot of money. My Spanish revival home adds beauty and history to Palm Springs. I have numerous five-star reviews.
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Other reasons to go with my proposal includes the following:
• No studies on the impact on tourism in Palm Springs to our stores, restaurants, events, attractions, etc.
• The uncertainty on how these changes will affect the housing market, property values and property tax revenue
• Less TOT dollars collected by the city could mean cuts to Police, Fire and EMT services
• No data has been presented by the city regarding the likely loss of tourists and their spending dollars in Palm Springs
• No studies have been done on how these changes will affect local jobs both within and outside the vacation rental community
• Vacation Rental owners are ambassadors for Palm Springs making it a world class tourist destination Finally, since we will have four new council members next year it would make sense to put off any decisions on this draft ordinance until the new council is seated.
Thanks…Drew
Drew E. Fenton, M.D.
556 S. Calle Ajo
Palm Springs, CA 92264
dfenton@aol.com
(213) 247 - 4000
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We are new part-time home owners who just closed on a PRE-EXISTING fully-furnished rental home in Palm Springs!
We chose a pre-existing rental home with a known history of rental income in order to help us with payments while
I wait to retire and move full-time. We made our financial commitments *BEFORE* any of these City changes were
even proposed, and are now stuck in moratorium hell! We could have saved $200k and chose Cathedral City, but
instead decided on Palm Springs as our future home partially because of the rental situation. Now, we face the
ridiculous possibility of having to SELL our home immediately after buying it, even though we've passed all
requirements and inspections. This is how you are hurting homeowners in very TANGIBLE ways, while attempting to
"fix" the very INTANGIBLE problem of too many rentals. Please vote NO on the proposal as-is and LIFT the
moratorium on PRE-EXISTING rental properties for new owners that are just trying to get through the process.
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My wife and I recently purchased a property in Palm Springs for use as our vacation home. We use the property
whenever we can and then rent it out as a short-term rental whenever we are not using it to help defray the costs. I
am strongly opposed to the proposed rule to limit short-term rentals to owners that spend at least 90 days
occupying their property. I understand that the city council is trying to discourage people from buying properties in
Palm Springs and then using them as short-term rentals without actually using the property. However, the 90-day
rule seems quite arbitrary and unfairly discriminates against people that have full-time jobs that cannot be done
remotely. My wife and I both teach at USC and it is not an option to spend 90 days a year in Palm Springs. There are
many ways the council can restrict short-term rentals in a way that is fair to all of the owners and this is not one of
them. As such, I would strongly encourage the council to drop the 90-day rule.
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From:Scott C Chaffin
To:City Clerk
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RE: Comments to the Palm Springs City Council, Thursday November 10 @5:30 PM regarding the proposed
changes to the current Vacation Rental policies and ordinances
To the members of the Palm Springs City Council:
My partner and I are owners of a vacation rental property in the Vista Norte neighborhood. I have been following
the deliberations on the Council regarding proposed changes to the city ordinances pertaining to vacation rental
properties and I oppose two of the proposed changes to the current regulations.
The proposed change of allowable rental events from 36 to 24 is a significant cut. It's a one third cut to our business
income and only seems motivated to stifle the vacation rental business. If we cannot achieve the monthly and annual
financial minimums we would have to sell the property and exit the business. Based on the success of the city wide
vote of a few years ago, it's a considerable stretch to now demand this kind of limitation. It is impossible to view
these proposed changes in any light other than to force the vacation rental sector into eventual elimination.
The proposal to require owners to occupy rental properties for 90 days each calendar year seems equally misguided.
I don't understand the motivation for such a requirement. We live in the city and are on site three or four times a
week. We have invested considerable effort toward the neighborhood surrounding our rental house to ensure that the
house is not a disruption nor an unwelcome property. We have had no complaints and inform our guests in no
uncertain terms to be mindful of their location and to be respectful of the neighborhood. I don't understand how
requiring a 90 day owner residency would further the need or goals of these new ordinances.
I urge the Council to reject these heavy handed requirements.
Scott Chaffin
Clayton Binks
205 East Mesquite Ave
Palm Springs, CA 92264
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From:Ken Priore
To:Christy Holstege; City Clerk; Dennis Woods; Geoff Kors; Grace Garner; Lisa Middleton; Llubi Rios; Makinen, Julie;
paul.albani-burgio@desertsun.com; Teresa Gallavan; Jeff Ballinger-C; Veronica Goedhart
Subject:Re: An Emergency Measure on a Freeze of Vacation Rentals is not supported by data/ Is a Back Door limit
Date:Thursday, November 10, 2022 6:39:39 AM
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Hi Veronica, Teresa:
I had a quick clarification on the report being reviewed tonight. Can you clarify 1) will junior
permits be excluded from the cap and 2) how your department arrived at 6 contracts as the correct
number of contracts? From the available data it would appear that 8 contracts would be a number
more aligned with past usage data.
Jeff, from the way that the definition of Junior Rentals, Vacation Rentals and Caps:
“Junior Vacation Rental Registration Certificate” means a Vacation Rental Certificate authorizing
fewer annual Contracts and for which a lower registration fee shall be charge."
“Vacation Rental Registration Certificate” or “Registration Certificate” means the annual permit
and/or a registration for a Vacation Rental or a Homeshare Interest issued by the City pursuant to
this Chapter."
“VR Neighborhood Percentage Cap” means the maximum VR Neighborhood Percentage allowed
by the City Council in each Neighborhood. The VR Neighborhood Percentage Cap is set at twenty
percent (20%). This VR Neighborhood Percentage Cap may be adjusted by the City Council by
ordinance or resolution."
From this drafting it appears that Junior Vacation Rentals are subject to the cap. There seems to be
some indication in section 5.25.060 (14)(y) that this is the case : " In such event, the owner of such
property shall not qualify for a regular Vacation Rental Registration Certificate if the Vacation
Rental Percentage Cap for that Neighborhood is, or would be, exceeded."
But can you clarify 1) that junior rentals are not subject to the cap and 2) how that is documented in
this proposal.
Thanks,
-Ken
On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 12:37 PM Ken Priore <kenpriore@gmail.com> wrote:
To City of Palm Spings Mayor and City Council:
This note is in response to the draft emergency order released on October 17th, for public
hearing on October 19th, 2022. It is alarming that the City Council is considering an arbitrary
freeze that can last for up to 22 months, based on assumptions and runs counter to the city’s
own available data available on the impact of vacation rentals.
As a reminder the city’s own data show that:
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the number of complaints in Palm Springs are at their lowest levels on records
93% of vacation rental had no complaints in 2021
Only 45% of calls required investigation
Only 9% of calls resulted in a citation, which represented 1.01% of the average number
of vacation rentals for 2021
2.65% of those cited were banned from vacation rentals
This data questions the Mayor’s and City Council’s motivation to take this action now. The
Mayor and City Council need to be clear as to what data underpins this emergency declaration
action.
What is even more questionable is when you look at the “analysis” supporting the city’s own
justification:
1) as the density and frequency of vacation rentals have grown, neighboring Coachella
Valley cities have received an increasing number of public nuisance complaints
emanating from vacation rentals and have recently taken actions to ban or limit such
rentals;
(2) excessive density and frequency of vacation rentals within the City may threaten the
character of existing residential neighborhoods;
(3) the density and frequency of vacation rentals has gradually grown over the last
several years; recent limits placed elsewhere in the Coachella Valley, as well as the
City of Palm Springs own indications of potential additional regulations, may cause a
significant increase in applications for vacation rental permits in the City;
(4) the City requires time to study and evaluate the potential impacts of vacation
rentals, including involving the public, to determine the necessary regulatory
requirements to ensure that vacation rentals do not fundamentally alter the character of
existing residential neighborhoods.
Let’s break down each of these statements, which are based on assumptions and not
objective information:
Point 1: Why is the conduct of other neighboring communities a justification for Palm
Springs? Palm Springs holds itself as a leader and progressive mindset, yet on this
issue suddenly the Mayor and CIty Council would prefer to follow in the shadow of the
less progressive communities in the Coachella Valley. As a resident of Palm Springs,
many choose to live in a community that is supportive of putting in the hard work to
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effectively support vacation rentals. We choose to live in Palm Springs, not other
communities within Coachella Valley.
Point 2: Since the strongest wording this clause can muster is the word “may” when
discussing the impact of character of neighborhoods, this is an inappropriate basis for an
emergency measure.
Point 3: There has been a recent increase in vacation rentals (the current increase is
approximately a 10% increase), but when you take a data driven view of the annual
average increase, the average is closer to 7%. A 3% increase over average is not a
reasonable basis for an emergency measure. What is even more concerning, is by
the Mayor’s own statements the Mayor feels that 2500 is the right level to hold vacation
rentals. By supporting this arbitrary emergency freeze (which could last for up to 22
months), is the intent of the Mayor and City Council to indirectly accomplish this
outcome? Any outcome should be based on a broad based set of discussions and facts,
not back door mechanisms based on feelings and opinions.
Point 4: This point does not appear to have any reasonable factual basis to support an
arbitrary 22 month freeze on vacation rentals. The assumption here is that the city must
freeze at or below the current levels while the city studies the issues.
Nothing in the current proposal lays a reasonable foundation for an emergency measure for a
potential 22 month ban. These are all difficult and important questions that the Mayor and
City Council should review, but this is hardly an emergency.
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If the City Council is basing this emergency measure on the findings of the working group, it is
important to consider that the working group was fundamentally flawed in its
recommendation.
The working group lacked fundamental data to underpin the recommendation of an
arbitrary limit.
The working group met 5 times over a period of less than 2 months (not 6 months).
The city group provided no explanation of how an arbitrary limit would address issues of
neighborhood character or the impact of vacation rentals.
The panel lacked diversity of gender, neighbor representation and potentially economic
demographics.
The city council should question the influence of a former journalist who is a vocal
opponent of vacation rentals including in the working group, and his his impact on the
recommendation.
It is concerning that the Mayor and City Council are justifying an emergency measure based
on opinion and a questionable analysis from a quickly drawn, narrow representation of
potentially biased community members.
If the city council moves forward with this emergency measure, we ask for the following
clarifications:
How do the Mayor and City Council justify this emergency measure based on the
complaint hotline data?
Given the historical context of the average year or year increase, how a 3-4% represents
the right pretext for an emergency measure that could last up to 22 months.
How will the Mayor and City Council members protect the housing security of vulnerable Palm
Springs Residents for the next 22 months. By enacting an arbitrary emergency freeze on
vacation rentals, the Mayor and City Council will eliminate a fall back for vulnerable residents.
In addressing the availability of homeshares being maintained in the emergency measure, It is
disingenuous to point to homeshares as a viable option, homeshare rentals are at a much
lower demand and price point than vacation rentals.
In a period of unprecedented economic uncertainty, taking a rash unjustified action is
unwarranted.
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Finally, in less than 30 days, an election will change the membership of the City Council, this is
not the time for the City Council to approve an arbitrary emergency freeze on vacation rentals
that can last for up to 22 months. The new city council should make this determination, based
on facts and data.
This is the wrong decision at the wrong time.
- Ken Priore
On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 7:35 AM Ken Priore <kenpriore@gmail.com> wrote:
To The City Council of Palm Springs:
This note is a follow-up to the request for public comment on the arbitrary limit to short term
vacation rentals (Vacation Rentals) proposed by the Department of Special Program
Compliance Vacation Rental and Homeshare Work Group (Working Group). After reviewing
the public commentary from the September 29th meeting and the available public
documentation and data, we have some additional questions and observations.
The Working Group focused on a narrow set of concerns
In the City Council’s enablement of the Working Group the “City Council directed staff and
the Working Group to address the following issues:
• “Vacation Rental Density
• Vacation Rentals as an ancillary use or secondary use of one’s property
• Impacts on Housing Supply.”
Unfortunately, the Working Group spent a minimal amount of time discussing ancillary use
and impact on housing supply. From the Working Group report:
“The quality-of-life issues mentioned above seemed to be primarily
focused on noise and parking issues. Aside from the household that does
not like strangers in their neighborhoods, those are the top two
complaints.”
From the public testimony, the testimony of the Working Group members, and the
questioning from City Council members at the September meeting, it appears that the
Working Group lacked sufficient data and information to achieve these goals. But
disappointingly, the Working Group also failed to use the available data to support its narrow
recommendation and assumptions on quality of life issues.
When you look at the vacation rental hotline data, it tells a very different story on
impact and the effectiveness of regulation
But what is even more compelling, is when you look into the reporting hotline call log details,
the success of this robst regulation in responding and acting on violations is clear. This
regulation is working and in the words of Mayor Middleton in her remarks in the September
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meeting, “No other city has gotten it as correct as Palm Springs, and that was a tremendous
amount of work.”
First, from a call volume standpoint, the number of calls received is at its lowest levels ever
for each reporting month on record.
And when you look at the outcome of these calls in 2021, a clearer picture of the
effectiveness of the hotline is clear.
93% of vacation rental had no complaints in 2021
Only 45% of calls required investigation
Only 9% of calls resulted in a citation, which represented 1.01% of the average
number of vacation rentals for 2021.
And finally, 2.65% of those cited were banned from vacation rentals.
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Chart
The number of issued citations is down tremendously since implementing robust
regulation in 2018
There is no data surge in complaints and citations that would warrant rash action such as an
arbitrary cap. “The City’s strict rules and enforcement has assisted in mitigating these issues
for many neighborhoods”
Grace Elena Garner, Mayor Pro Tem, observed in her commentary at the September 29th
meeting that may best describe what is happening “For those residents that are used to
properties remaining vacant, or only used occasionally by a couple, having a neighborhood
more fully lived in is a change that will lead to conflict.” (Paraphrased). The goal of vacation
rental regulation is to find a balance, not to prefer a particular point of view. This regulation
has done the hard work to strike that balance. This arbitrary limit undoes this balance and
does nothing to address reasonable concerns.
The system is working, allow the system to work.
The Working Group is flawed in composition and methodology
When we reviewed the City Council report, we have concerns over the limited data
reviewed, but also in general its timing, selection and composition.
The Working Group met for only 5 sessions, for less than 2 months.
It was unclear what standards were used to randomly select 8 of the members, nor
were the opinions that members brought into the discussions prior to the sessions
disclosed. It is curious that one of the working group members is a former journalist
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that has consistently leveraged his privileged position in the media to oppose vacation
rentals.
The panel contained only 2 women, and as the public testimony highlighted, lacked
gender, age and socio-economic diversity.
For residents that don’t support any vacation rentals, or “don’t like strangers in their
neighborhood,” the arbitrary cap will not achieve anything. We are concerned about the City
Council taking the recommendation of a Working Group that lacked data and may have
been biased in its recommendations.
We encourage the City Council to consider a methodology that addresses the biases,
positions and agenda of community members that are participating in any future form. For a
Working Group to be representative of the diverse community of Palm Springs, we would
encourage the City Council to explore a process that brings in a broader cross section of the
Palm Springs community.
By enacting an arbitrary 3 year freeze on vacation rentals, the City Council will
contribute to housing insecurity for some Palm Springs residents
One interesting outcome of the September 29th meeting was a deeper understanding that
an arbitrary freeze at 2500 Vacation Rentals will likely result in a three year ban of new
vacation rentals if the city council takes no further action. The result of this ban is to actually
reward and preference those vacation rentals that are currently approved and “in the
system”.
As mentioned by several community members, this arbitrary ban will also endanger housing
security of some Palm Springs residents by completely locking them out of access to the
vacation rental process. This is a curious and ill-considered outcome given the uncertain
and worsening economic climate.
Palm Springs should not consider an arbitrary limit, without first truly enabling the “A/B”
permit mechanism that allows for limited ancillary use that are exempted from the proposed
arbitrary limit. Some attributes to enable this “B” permit could include:
Narrower limits on short term rental contracts- 8 contracts or 60 days
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Proof of residency (copies of tax returns, drivers license to confirm residency)
Limiting ownership types (not available to LLC or Trusts)
Using this easily managed methodology, the City Council can ensure that Palm Springs
residents can access fairly economic security provided by vacation rentals that are based on
incidental use.
But effective improvements can be made to the existing regulation to address impact
and density
The Working Group report said it best when it came to the effectiveness of a percentage cap
on vacation rentals:
“The group determined that a percentage cap by district would not
address the immediate problem of neighborhood saturation and opted
to vote on a percentage cap to be implemented for every identified
neighborhood.”
There is no data supporting that a neighborhood cap is any more effective than a district
cap. The assumption is that increased density leads to more impact, but the proposed cap
will do nothing to address this concern. It’s important to note that neighborhoods were
defined not by city planners designed to address issues of noise and parking, but were
established decades ago to address development and vary widely in size, compensation and
geography. The solution should be much more targeted and hype-local, such as a minimum
distance between Vacation Rentals.
We ask the City Council to explore an option that works to strengthen the current system
that actually targets impact. Some observations on mechanism that could be applied in
such a requirement:
Limiting Vacation Rentals based on property maps /lot lines for more even spacing of
Vacation Rentals
Limiting Vacation Rentals to be a set number of feet apart to approximate typical lot
lines (i.e. 100ft, 150ft)
If the City Council’s goal is to address issues of noise and parking, then a distance based
approach, though more difficult to implement, seems more directly aimed at addressing
concerns.
Next, the City Council can strength existing Vacation Rentals rules to address the small
number of Vacation Rentals that have been cited:
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A meaningful fine to a property owners and management company for each citation.
Issuance of citation lowers the number of rental contracts for a property for the
following year
Issuance of a citation requires self managed properties to use a professional
management company going forward.
Suspension of a property would prohibit that property from being eligible as a Vacation
Rental for 1 year after the sale of that property.
These approaches will be more difficult to implement but are aligned with the City Council's
goals of effectively balancing the needs of many stakeholders, and builds on the existing
hard work of the current regulations.
There is no data to support rushing to an arbitrary cap, and the city already has additional
tools and options at its disposal to strengthen the current regulation without the drastic step
of an arbitrary cap.
Explore tools within the existing regulations to strengthen anniclary use
One of the City Council’ s directives to the Working Group that was not deeply explored was
to understand more about “Vacation Rentals as an ancillary use or secondary use of one’s
property.” We want to encourage community development within a system that promotes
ancillary use. The City Council can explore a number of options within the existing system to
encourage ancillary use:
Strengthen existing tools to confirm that the Palm Springs property is the primary
residence (copies of driver’s license, tax returns, attestation)
A license structure with a lower number of contracts for properties held in LLC’s or
trusts (25 rental contracts)
On the sale of a property, the property owners cannot apply to be an operating
Vacation Rentals for a period of 1 year.
There have been some misplaced concerns that some residents have been able to “get
around” regulations, and in some instances that may be true. But in opening this public
forum, the City Council has supported an iterative process, searching to improve a regulation
that is effective, if not perfect. Lurching to an arbitrary limit is not an improvement, but a
reactionary step backwards.
Housing supply impact is a big, tough question, and needs more data
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Finally, to briefly touch on one of the questions underpinning the Working Group's work, was
a deeper understanding from the community on the impact of Vacation Rentals on housing
supply. The Working Group’s report recognized the difficulty of the task and perhaps a bit
dismissively stated: “All opinions could be supported if you look hard enough”. Perhaps that
is true, and perhaps this is not an issue that can clearly be addressed by an arbitrary cap on
vacation rentals. One of the more comprehensive data driven approaches to the impact of
Vacation Rental limits in Santa Monica and West Hollywood might have also captured the it
when the researchers found both positive and negative impacts:
Short-term rentals can result in both positive and negative changes to
home values. A 10 percent increase in AirBnB listings in West Hollywood
resulted in a 1.55 percent increase in housing prices, whereas the same
increase in AirBnB listings in Santa Monica decreased housing prices by
2.66 percent.
The 2015 ordinance in Santa Monica resulted in a reduction of short-term
rentals. This resulted in a nearly 8 percent increase in housing prices in
Santa Monica, which is consistent with the findings from the analysis of LA
County data.
It’s unclear what impact, if any, an arbitrary ban on short term rentals would have on housing
supply and affordability in Palm Springs. This may feel like a step that will help, but nothing
presented to the City Council or the Working Group supports this assumption.
We ask the City Council to recognize that a vote for this arbitrary 3 year freeze does not
accomplish its goals of strengthening vacation rental regulation, but is a response to a
privileged few that are using journalistic pressure to push a false narrative that is not
supported by data.
In voting for an arbitrary cap, the City Council may force some Palm Springs residents into
greater housing insecurity. A vote for this arbitrary cap is to say to that resident that has lost
their job, become sick, or had a significant change of their financial security- that this city
council is prioritizing the goals of a vocal, privileged minority. For a city that prides itself on
progressive ideals, why is now the time for a regressive arbitrary limit?
This is the wrong decision and the wrong time.
--
Ken Priore
415.601.6658
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Ken Priore
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Ken Priore
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From:LetsAll@GoBananas.net
To:City Clerk
Cc:"Bob Heinbaugh"; Denise Goolsby; Veronica Goedhart
Subject:CC Agenda Item 3A - STR Ord review - a serious problem (and SIMPLE SOLUTION) with the planned density
model.
Date:Thursday, November 10, 2022 8:20:07 AM
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Dear City Council and Staff,
Cc; Denise, and Veronica,
2022-11-10 City Council Agenda Item 3A
RE: Short Term Rental Ordinance Review – Serious problem (and SIMPLE EASY
SOLUTION) with the proposed density model.
Big Problem with a Simple Easy Solution.
At last evening’s ONE-PS meeting, Mayor Middleton explained the proposed
STR Ord. density model concept. She said, basically, it will be a percentage of
each ONE-PS Neighborhood Organization. Bob and I, as former long-term Co-
Chairs of ONE-PS Neighborhood Formation and Support, helped develop,
expand, and created many of the NOrgs throughout the City. So, we are
especially familiar with ALL of them. We also were part of the 2017 STR Ord.
rewrite. This proposed density percentage model is workable in a few NOrgs,
but not a good solution in most.
Why is the proposed density percentage model a PROBLEM?:
Here is an example of a NOrg where it might work well.:
Some NOrgs are simple in composition and as small as 80+ residential
addresses (Araby Cove, Lawrence Crossley, etc.), all of which are single family
homes, and none of the addresses in restrictive HOAs, etc. Summary: All
addresses within the NOrg boundaries are affected equally by the proposed
density model.
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Here is an example of NOrg where it would create a huge problem.:
Some of the more complex composition NOrgs are 2,000+ residential
addresses (Canyon Corridor, Sonora Sunrise, Upper West Side, etc.), and of
some addresses of those NOrgs are in restrictive HOAs, while other addresses
are non-restricted address. This could force especially heavy and overwhelming
density in those non-restricted areas inside NOrgs. Summary: All addresses
within the NOrg boundaries are NOT affected equally by the proposed density
model.
Example: Upper West Side NOrg is complex and has approx. 2,000
residential addresses. We have multiple restricted HOA (or similar) addresses
where STRs are not allowed ever. So, the proposed density for those restricted
areas ends up adding density to the non-restricted addresses areas, which
could result in a 50% or greater density in the non-restricted addresses areas,
simply because the non-restricted addresses of Upper West Side share the
same boundaries as restricted addresses. To be clear Upper West Side is used
as an example, but is not alone by any means.
Here is a possible SIMPLE EASY SOLUTION/adjustment that might really
make it workable?:
The density cap to be calculated based on the sum of all NON-Restricted
addresses with-in the NOrgs. Summary: Keep the proposed density model
based on NOrg boundaries, but add that the percentage is based on number of
NON-Restricted addresses.
Calculating the restricted and non-restricted addresses should not be difficult.
Some records from our tenure of ONE-PS NOrg Formation and Support includes
much of that data already, and working with Denise and Veronica it could get
exact on those numbers. NOTE: The few remaining Non-NOrg areas can also be
calculated similarly.
Thank you for reading,
Bob Heinbaugh & Paul Hinrichsen – Upper West Side NOrg – leadership
members.
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From: Brandon Riker <briker2@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2022 8:04 AM
To: Christy Holstege <Christy.Holstege@palmspringsca.gov>
Subject: Pam Springs STR
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Christy - We met years ago when you ran for city council. I purchased a home in Palm Springs in
2017, after I had run for Lt. Gov of Vermont in 2016, and then upgraded to a new home in 2020.
I have rented these homes out when I am not in the city but had always planned to live in them at
some point. I have taken a job in Washington D.C. and if the council votes tomorrow to require a
90-residency requirement I will be forced to sell the home. This is beyond disappointing and as I
have hosted Speaker Pelosi, Reps. Khanna, Takano, Ruiz and Sen - Elect Welch at my home. I
will go from being a proud homeowner in Palm Springs to someone who will feel the city stole
my future from me.
Brandon Riker
802-779-2406
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From:Alex Jackson
To:Lisa Middleton; Grace Garner; Geoff Kors; Dennis Woods; City Clerk
Subject:Opposed: Public Comment on Item 3A; Proposed Vacation Rental Ordinance changes
Date:Thursday, November 10, 2022 9:13:37 AM
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ITEM 3A: Oppose
Dear City Council Members:
My partner and I are tax payers in Palm Springs, we have a second home here that we use ourselves
and rent out. We oppose the proposed ordinance changes for and urge the council to either vote
down these proposals, or postpone action in order to conduct a careful and critical analysis of
potential economic impacts on the city and its residents, as well as to allow for more public input.
Is there data demonstrating a problem that justifies pursuing these changes at a time of great
economic uncertainty, without thorough consideration and adequate time for public feedback?
Exactly what is not working with current regulations? And what can or will happen as negative
consequences to these extreme limits that are proposed?
economic impacts on local business and employment.
Decrease in property values and property tax revenue from all residents.
Effects on vital services such as Police, Fire and EMT services due to above items.
To my knowledge, the city has not conducted studies or presented data showing it has evaluated
these potential harms. Neither is there evidence to establish the purpose or benefits of the
proposed changes.
Voters in Palm Springs resoundingly rejected the vacation rental ban that came on the ballot as
Measure C just four years ago. Reasonable restrictions and regulations are in place and are working
well. Additional restrictions like those proposed now appear to be a continued attack on vacation
rentals (despite the will of the people) rather than a sincere effort at reasonable regulation.
The City Council should not now chip away at this piecemeal by implementing additional and
significant restrictions without full engagement and participation of stakeholders and thorough
consideration of how this will impact the residents, economy and jobs in this city. To further restrict
the vacation rental industry will jeopardize the essence of what makes Palm Springs a unique and
desirable destination and a great place to live.
In addition to these serious city wide impacts, we are concerned about how these changes will
impact our retirement plans personally, and we are sure many other second-home owners would be
adversely impacted. We invested in a second home in Tahquitz River Estates with the expectation of
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being able to use the home as we wished, within reason. We are not opposed to regulations, and we
are not corporate investors or developers, but being able to use and rent out our home when we are
not here is part of our retirement plan. Having flexibility in how we use our home as a short term
rental makes it financially feasible. Further restrictions, as proposed, will impact our ability to keep
the home and benefit from our investment.
Measure C was a referendum by the people of Palm Springs in favor of the vacation rental industry
and all that it helps bring to our City. We urge you not to move forward with these ill-considered
changes that are not supported by data-driven analysis of potential benefits and harm.
Thanks for your consideration.
Alex Jackson
353 College Ave
Berkeley, CA 94705
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I think Palm Springs residents should continue to be able to do short-term rentals without homeowners having to
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Hi. I am not sure why vacation rentals are being discussed again. There was a referendum and it was
overwhelmingly in favour of keeping vacation rentals. I live in racquet club estates and have never had a problem
with renters. I only live in Palm Springs 5 weeks a year as I have children in school elsewhere. Please leave this issue
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Cc:Betsy Smalley; Stephen Edelstein; moomee2@aol.com; Lauren Davee
Subject:Vacation Rentals Restriction - City Council Meeting, Thursday November 10 2022
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Good morning,
I support a 10% cap (preferably less) for vacation rentals per neighborhood. I do not support a
20% cap per neighborhood which I understand the City Council is considering at today’s
meeting. Twenty percent is an outrageously high number.
Please see below for additional information.
Regards,
Paul Popowich
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Date: October 17, 2022 at 11:44:27 AM PDT
To: cityclerk@palmspringsca.gov
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christy.holstege@palmspringsca.gov, Dennis Woods
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Subject: Vacation Rentals - City Council Meeting, Monday October 17 2022
Paul K Popowich
247 W Stevens Road Unit 10, Palm Springs, CA 92262| paul7285@aol.com
October 17, 2022
Palm Springs City Council
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C/O cityclerk@palmspringsca.gov
3200 E Tahquitz Canyon Way
Palm Springs, CA. 92262
RE: Vacation Rental
Dear Palm Springs City Council:
Thank-you for the opportunity to share my thoughts about vacation rentals here in
Palm Springs.
I’m a full-time resident and live in the Old Las Palmas neighborhood. It’s very
important that the Council consider a moratorium on issuing any new permits for
short-term vacation rentals (STR) and a 10% cap restriction in neighborhoods
which I fully support. I have seen my neighborhood slowly change over the past
several years where more and more properties have become vacation rentals with
owners who do not care about us locals and the impact they have placed on our
quality of life. At one time, STRs seemed to work but many greedy investment
owners only care about getting their cash. I’ve seen more SFRs appear in my
neighborhood and adjacent over the last 2.5 years fueled by property sales during
COVID.
Please note, there’s a number of properties in my neighborhood that have
purchased by out of town /state investors under the disguise of LLC’s with
multiple owners having a percentage share of ownership interest. Why is this
important? These LLCs are being setup as timeshares which I understand are
illegal in Palm Springs. I do know that there are other property recordings
throughout Palm Springs using the LLC’s disguise with similar arrangements
impacting the neighborhood desirability and values of our personal residences.
Thank-you for your time and please consider these important recommendations
Sincerely,
Paul K Popowich
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PAUL K POPOWICH
247 W Stevens Road Unit 10, Palm Springs, CA 92262| paul7285@aol.com
October 17, 2022
Palm Springs City Council
C/O cityclerk@palmspringsca.gov
3200 E Tahquitz Canyon Way
Palm Springs, CA. 92262
RE: Vacation Rental
Dear Palm Springs City Council:
Thank-you for the opportunity to share my thoughts about vacation rentals here in Palm Springs.
I’m a full-time resident and live in the Old Las Palmas neighborhood. It’s very important that the Council
consider a moratorium on issuing any new permits for short-term vacation rentals (STR) and a 10% cap
restriction in neighborhoods which I fully support. I have seen my neighborhood slowly change over the
past several years where more and more properties have become vacation rentals with owners who do not
care about us locals and the impact they have placed on our quality of life. At one time, STRs seemed to
work but many greedy investment owners only care about getting their cash. I’ve seen more SFRs appear
in my neighborhood and adjacent over the last 2.5 years fueled by property sales during COVID.
Please note, there’s a number of properties in my neighborhood that have purchased by out of town /state
investors under the disguise of LLC’s with multiple owners having a percentage share of ownership
interest. Why is this important? These LLCs are being setup as timeshares which I understand are illegal
in Palm Springs. I do know that there are other property recordings throughout Palm Springs using the
LLC’s disguise with similar arrangements impacting the neighborhood desirability and values of our
personal residences.
Thank-you for your time and please consider these important recommendations
Sincerely,
Paul K Popowich
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From:Doug Prochaska
To:City Clerk
Subject:E-Public Comment - Agenda Item 3A, November 10, 2022 City Council Agenda
Date:Wednesday, November 9, 2022 4:22:45 PM
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Mayor Middleton and Members of the Council:
I have attended the recent City Council Meetings where short-term vacation
rentals have been discussed, and I am impressed by the diligent and
deliberate manner in which the Council has addressed the issues involved.
The proposed short-term rental ordinance on the agenda for November 10,
2022, caps short-term vacation rentals at 20% per neighborhood. I live in
Sunrise Park, where 17% of the homes already are vacation rentals. In a 15-
minute walk around my immediate neighborhood, I pass 14 vacation rentals.
That's 14 homes with no permanent residents. That many short-term rentals
in a neighborhood take away from the sense of community that I sought
when purchasing my home here in 2018. A cap of 20% would negatively
impact that sense of community even more. Consequently, I strongly urge
the Council to reduce that proposed cap from 20% to 15% per neighborhood.
Respectfully,
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From:Linda Sacket
To:City Clerk
Cc:Lisa Middleton; Grace Garner; Geoff Kors; Dennis Woods
Subject:Public Comment - City Council Meeting 11/10/2022 - Item 3A concerning Vacation Rentals
Date:Tuesday, November 8, 2022 9:03:15 PM
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Dear City Council,
I am a tax payer in Palm Springs and wish to very strongly voice my opposition to
the changes being proposed to amend and restate Chapter 5.25 regarding Vacation
Rentals.
I do not believe thorough impact studies have been made in the following areas -
especially in light of the adversely changing economic conditions:
1. The reduction of the annual number of contracts from 36 to 24 (including 3rd
quarter additions). This 30% reduction in potential revenue could result in many
Vacation Rentals becoming non-viable from a business point of view.
2. The disallowance of events for Vacation Rentals as this will also reduce the
financial viability of the properties.
3. The effect of closure of many rentals. Property values and sales prices may fall as
the market becomes overburdened with listings and result in many short sales and
foreclosures as the housing market sinks into recession. Pride of ownership may
not be maintained in many areas.
4. The ancillary tourist businesses - restaurants, bars, entertainment venues etc. may
suffer a similar blow to their annual incomes.
5. With so many Vacation Rentals no longer able to operate, many service
personnel - housekeepers, gardeners, pool services, maintenance services, chefs,
entertainment providers etc, - will suffer greatly reduced incomes and the possibility
of no longer being able to support themselves and their families.
6. Most vacation rentals provide an excellent service to visitors, providing safe and
enjoyable resort style accommodations. Vacation Rentals have enabled Palm
Springs to become a world-class vacation destination.
7. The rentals often upgrade the area real estate, enhancing visual amenity as well
as increasing neighborhood property values.
8. These proposed changes come at a time of inflation, rising interest rates,
economic uncertainty, and recessionary slow down. No study has been made to
evaluate the effect on the livelihood and financial stability of the tourist businesses
and involved personnel. No study has been done on the effect of reduction of TOT
dollars that provides improvements and services for the City
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I must respectfully request that any Vacation Rental amendments and/or
restatements be deferred until the new council can responsibly evaluate the full
effect on the City, tourist and service personnel, and short sale/foreclosure
ramifications in light of the current economic environment .
Thank you.
Linda Sacket
818-933-1111
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My wife and I are full time residents of Palm Springs. We are voters and tax payers. We live 2 miles from our
vacation rental. We played by the rules of Ord 1918 and made an investment in the community. I don’t want to
belabor the deleterious effects of the proposed changes on the owners. I believe they are well known. I simply want
to ask why? Why are these changes being proposed with no apparent rational basis? Where are the studies and
data supporting such drastic changes to the current regulations? STR are an economic engine for the city and a
source of great visitor satisfaction. What about the loss of tax revenues? The loss of tourist dollar spending? The loss
of gainful employment of ancillary service providers? Will my taxes be raised through parcel and sales tax increases,
or will we see a reduction in city services? As residents and taxpayers we are asking the Council for facts and
transparency, for a legitimate rationale to support these changes when the stakes are so high
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From:Larry Yarchever
To:City Clerk; Lisa Middleton; Grace Garner; Geoff Kors; Dennis Woods
Subject:Short Term Vacation Rental observations from a Palm Springs Homeowner
Date:Wednesday, November 9, 2022 8:01:29 AM
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Dear Honorable City Council Members,
I purchased a historic Donald Wexler-designed midcentury home in El Rancho Vista Estates in 2020. I'm a property
taxpayer; A vacation rental license holder; Achieve over $650 per night in rental income generating about $70.00
per night in TOT revenues. Truly a win-win-win situation for me as a homeowner, for the City as a TOT revenue
receiver, and for the restauranteurs and retailers who receive business from my vacation renters.
I am my own property manager. I check-in my guests personally and we text throughout their stay so I know how
they spend their time. They do not hang around the pool all day. Most of my guests dine out rather than in my
kitchen and shop the downtown retail shops when they are here. My guests have never caused even a peep in outside
noise. I even have an arrangement with a Palm Springs restaurant that gives my guests a $25.00 gift certificate. The
restaurant owner tells me my guests average $150.00 in food and beverages from that $25.00 gift. Studies show our
City is 80% tourism. Short Term Vacation Rentals (STR) are a large part of this with direct income from tourists
spending on lodging, food, entertainment, and retail.
Here's what we need from the City Council:
Real evidence justifying these changes;
Data showing how densities by neighborhood will positively or negatively affect home values and loss of
property taxes because of decreased home values
Data showing how the loss of tourists will negatively impact their spending in Palm Springs
The amount of reduced City revenues in the coffers if we make these changes - especially while we enter
economic uncertainty and likely another recession
Data showing how these changes will affect the local jobs both within the STR community and outside the
STR community
I have a degree in economics and continue to study socioeconomic policy and I want to say this: With 80% of our
industry in tourism, we should be doing everything we can to invite as many out-of-area individuals and families to
come to our lovely city to spend their vacation dollars. We don't have tech companies here. We don't have finance
company headquarters here. We don't have aerospace or manufacturing industries here supporting our employment
base. All we primarily have is tourism and there are literally hundreds of other cities fighting for the vacation dollars
we are handed. Let's not make it easier for other cities to entice our happy vacationing visitors.
So, I strongly urge our city leaders to delay these proposed changes until we research and analyze the impact these
changes will exact on us so we can prudently decide what if any changes should be made to improve our short-term
vacation industry.
Sincerely,
Larry Yarchever
1633 Via Roberto Miguel
Palm Springs, Ca 92262
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From:Gary Johns
To:Lisa Middleton; Christy Holstege; Geoff Kors; Grace Garner; Dennis Woods; Teresa Gallavan; City Clerk;
info@modernismweek.com
Subject:November 10, 2023 City Council Agenda item 3 A.
Date:Wednesday, November 9, 2022 8:18:46 AM
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Mayor Middleton, Council Members, Interim City Manager, City Clerk,
Please find attached Modernism Week board of directors letter.
best regards,
gary johns
Gary Johns
Secretary, Board of Directors, Modernism Week
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Honorable Mayor Middleton and city council members
City of Palm Springs
3200 E. Tahquitz Canyon Way
Palm Springs, CA 92262
Regarding agenda item 3 A.
Subheading Interplay of Vacation Rentals and Event Houses.
Dear Mayor Middleton and city council members,
The Modernism Week board of directors encourages you to give further consideration to
agenda item 3A, specifically, disallowing any Vacation Rental from also being an Event House.
As the council continues to refine and modify the vacation rental ordinance, please consider the
impact of removing some of Palm Springs’ most important and iconic architectural homes from
the Event House category. Numerous homes in Palm Springs offer both vacation rental and
event house opportunities. Frank Sinatra’s Twin Palms Estate, The Dinah Shore Estate, the
Franz Alexander House and Sandacre to name a few.
As a city of Palm Springs sponsored event, Modernism Week’s programming often includes
event houses. Under the proposed ordinance these homes would not be available for event use.
Modernism Week along with several partner organizations would be adversely affected by this
new ordinance. Modernism Week 2023 tickets went on sale one week ago and events at Event
Houses have already sold out. These homes add to the mystique of Palm Springs and to the
cache’ of Modernism Week for being able to offer these homes to our guests.
We hope the council can find a way to ease the proposed regulations allowing for Event Houses
to remain a vital part of Modernism Week programming.
Sincerely,
William Kopelk Lisa Vossler Smith
Chairman & Co-Founder CEO
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CALIFORNIA, AMENDING.. We purchased 1777 Ridge Road in May 2021 to be used by ourselves, our family, and for
vacation rentals. We have completely remodeled the property, improved the energy efficiency, with 10% income to
expense. This money has gone to paying local contractors to remodel the home, weekly landscaping, weekly pool
service, local solar, trash, water, and electricity. We have a long-term investment in Palm Springs and making our
home to most beautiful for ourselves and our guests. We will not be able to support a property that will continually
lose money, with reduced contracts, dictating our personal use minimums. This would result in a short sale most
likely as the economy enters a recession, and interest rates make it unlikely to sell for what we purchased it for. This
is our retirement investment taking 50% of our expendable income. What has caused this proposal to appear?
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From:Urla, Naya
To:Lisa Middleton; Grace Garner; Geoff Kors; Dennis Woods; City Clerk
Subject:Proposed Vacation Rental Ordinance changes
Date:Wednesday, November 9, 2022 9:35:50 AM
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Dear City Council-
My wife and I are full time, year round residents of Palm Springs in the Canyon Palms neighborhood. We do not own or
have any financial interest in any vacation rental property or business and are not employed in the tourism industry.
We were very disappointed to hear about the City Council’s proposed Vacation Rental Ordinance changes.
When the vacation rental ban came on the ballot as Measure C just four years ago, the voters of Palm Springs
resoundingly rejected it.
That the City Council would now try to do an end-around to contradict the will of the Palm Springs voters is a subversion
of democracy.
There is currently a vacation rental property on our cul-de-sac (Fuego Circle), and there was previously another vacation
rental directly next to us. We have always found vacation rental properties to be excellent neighbors, that are, in fact, in
many ways preferable to regular, non-vacation rental neighbors. For example, if there is a noise issue you can always
contact the Vacation Rental Hotline for prompt resolution, or if there is an issue with maintenance of the property, you
can contact the management company, and it is generally dealt with quickly and efficiently.
Furthermore, one of the main reasons that Palm Springs, a city of only around 45,000 people (not even ranking in the top
200 in California cities in terms of population) has such amenities as an international airport, world-class museums and
attractions and fine dining is the tourism industry. Vacation rentals are a large and integral part of that industry. To further
restrict the vacation rental system is to jeopardize the very hearts blood of our city.
Doing so would likely have broad-reaching adverse impacts, including:
Less money spent at Palm Springs stores, restaurants, events, attractions, etc.
Uncertainty and likely declines in the housing market, property values and property tax revenue
Less transient occupancy tax dollars collected by the City could mean cuts to Police, Fire and EMT services
Loss of local jobs both within and outside the vacation rental community
Measure C was a referendum by the people of Palm Springs in favor of the vacation rental industry and all that it helps
bring to our City. We urge you not to blatantly disregard that referendum by now enacting changes to the vacation rental
industry that already works so well.
Thank you.
Naya Urla
1320 Fuego Circle
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Vacation Rental Ordinance: Myself and my spouse are opposed to changes to the current Vacation Rental Ordinance
as proposed; specifically, reducing the number of allowable rental contracts from 36 to 24 per year will adversely
affect the vital tourist trade industry in Palm Springs. Tourism is a significant component of our local economy.
Attempts to reduce the number of tourists to this wonderful destination will damage local businesses, our local tax
base and home values adversely. Palm Springs is unique and we all want to protect it. However, it's unique in that
it's one of just a few destinations where visitors can enjoy a full home rental and appreciate the unique weather and
atmosphere provided by Palm Springs. I truly believe that encourages current visitors to Palm Springs to become
future tax paying residents of our valley. The current proposal over reaches significantly.
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From:Matt Carbonara
To:Lisa Middleton; Grace Garner; Geoff Kors; Dennis Woods; City Clerk
Subject:Proposed changes to Vacation Rental Ordinance
Date:Wednesday, November 9, 2022 10:08:27 AM
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Dear Palm Spring City Council,
I am a home owner and tax payer in Palm Springs and care deeply about the future of Palm
Springs as a community and as city.
I am concerned that the proposed changes to the Vacation Rental Ordinance will have a
negative impact on home owners, tourists, businesses, employment, and ultimately the
residents and the overall city of Palm Springs.
The proposed changes will have a negative effect on the availability and the quality of rental
inventory. These changes will reduce the available rental inventory. In addition, under the
proposed changes, VR owners will be unable and / or disincentivized to provide proper
upkeep of their properties. Therefore both the level of tourism and the quality of experience
for tourists will be negatively impacted. This will result in reduced tourism. Reduced tourism
will lead to reduced business for restaurants, shops & service businesses and thus reduced
employment in Palm Springs. The changes will also have a negative impact on home values
in the region. These all point to a negative economic impact from these changes on the City
of Palm Springs and its residents.
I would ask that the Palm Spring City Council consider the above and refrain from making
changes to the existing VR Ordinance.
Best regards,--Matt Carbonara
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From:Michael Payne
To:City Clerk; Lisa Middleton; Grace Garner; Geoff Kors; Dennis Woods; John Hubby
Subject:Public Comment on Item 3A
Date:Wednesday, November 9, 2022 10:30:25 AM
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Dear PS City Council
As local palm springs residents, taxpayers and voters. We wish to object to the proposed
ordinance changes as follows.
We believe these proposed new rules are punitive, complex, and discriminatory. This is because the
proposed changes in the rules will have a worse effect on some people than others.
· An annual residency requirement for VR permit owners of 90-days per year
Some owners cannot be here consistently for example. Service personnel who are deployed
overseas, overseas owners who cannot manage to be in the US for 90 days, with some who
cannot get a visa for that length of time. Owners who have family commitments or
emergencies that prohibit occupation
· Forcing VR permit owners who rent less than 7 times per year into the new JuniorPermit category
Our house is a Trousdale and is over 70 years old and needs extensive remodeling to provide
a wonderful experience to our guests and visitors. If we do this renovation which will take
several months to complete and we cannot fulfill the 7 contracts over that period, yet we
will lose our full permit. Is this intended? how many homes will not be maintained?
· What services will the city be cutting, when the TOT revenue and tourist taxes arereduced because of the reduction from 36 to 24 annual contracts?
· The property market is tanking, mortgage rates are sky-high and prices are dropping.The timing of this ordinance change will only cause more pressure on house prices whenthere is so much uncertainty.
Palm Springs did get it right, as there is no evidence to support the proposed ordinance change. This
has not been adequately explained and why now? Why is the city punishing responsible
homeowners that have paid their taxes and contributed to the city in many ways?
Lastly, VRON and vacation property owners more generally, have demonstrated our cooperation,
engagement, and discussion with the Council. We are frustrated that the proposed ordinance
reflects a significant change to the vacation rental rules in place, which were the product of
significant engagement.
We respectfully request that the council reconsider the proposed changes, and instead, maintain the
framework that reflects broad community consultation.
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From:Emmanuel Cobbet
To:City Clerk
Cc:Chris Regan; Owners; Karlos Salinas; Lisa Middleton; Grace Garner; Geoff Kors; Christy Holstege; Dennis Woods;
Llubi Rios
Subject:City Council Meeting Nov. 10th, Item 3A - Comments VR Ordinance/STR Regulations
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Dear City Clerk, Council Members and Staff,
Unable to attend tomorrow's meeting, my husband and I are writing to share the following thoughts
and comments with regards to further restricting the short-term rental regulations.
We were finally able to purchase a vacation home in Palm Springs in 2020, both as an investment
and potentially our retirement home. We worked really hard towards this goal, and worked even
harder restoring our aging Hugh Kaptur mid-century home that had been neglected. We spend a lot
of money on overhauling the entire house, paying our construction permit fees, employing countless
trades from the valley, purchasing locally and paying sales tax on all our local purchases.
To maintain and being able to continue to enjoy our vacation home and get us to the time when we
can retire, we absolutely depend on rental income to help cover the maintenance cost et recoup the
heavy investment we made in remodeling the house, from efficient appliances and windows to new
plumbing and drought resistant landscape. All this to see one piece of architecture that makes Palm
Springs so special continue to exist and be shared and experienced by others when we are not there.
We embraced coming to Palm Springs for years as renters. We by far favor the short term rental
model, as we find the hotel model obsolete. As a family or group of friends, renting a house brings
people so much closer than if they are compartmentalized in hotel rooms. It also gives visitors the
opportunity to experience what Palm Springs is about, especially in our case when renting a mid-
century home and getting a slice of what life may have been back in the 60s owning a vacation home
in the desert.
A lot of conversations are taking place at the moment, yet we have yet to fully grasp what the
motivation to further restrict rentals truly is. Here are some questions and thoughts:
1. Do those vocal about restricting STRs want to reduce the income of Palm Springs
businesses? In our renters’ manual we make suggestions for local activities and restaurants,
giving glorious reviews to both neighborhood and hidden off the beaten path places that
would otherwise not get the foot traffic. Less renters = less business for these restaurants or
stores.
2. Do those vocal about restricting STRs want to feel a sense of community and know their
neighbor? Palm Springs is historically a resort town with a lot of second homes. Whoever
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moved here full time with the expectation to live surrounded by neighbors all year round is
mistaken. Unless of course, the true motivation is nimbyism and not to have anyone around
at all, since that in all likelihood houses would remain unoccupied most of the year if there
weren’t any renters.
3. Do those vocal about restricting STRs feel STRs are single handedly inflating the house prices
and creating a homeless problem? I’d like to remind everyone that real estate all across the
state has soared, whether it be a resort town or not. This is not a local, insulated issue. The
same is reported all across desirable places to live in the US. STRs are not driving up home
values, inflation, interest rates and demand are.
4. Do those vocal about restricting STRs think Palm Springs has been thriving and continue to
attract visitors simply on the merit of great weather? Do local residents think they benefit
from a growing number of stores, facilities, better food options, improved museums, public
parks and events just out of the generosity of corporations? No, these better infrastructures
are the result of more people visiting Palm Springs, spending more money here, paying TOT
tax. Bigger groups are able to share a 4-bedroom house like ours for less than a hotel of
equal standard. They would not stay as long or come as often if they had to pay hotel prices.
As such, our renters are staying longer, come in greater numbers and benefit the local
economy.
5. Do those vocal about restricting STRs feel further limiting the amount from 36 to 24
contract eliminate noise complaints? Would capping the number of permit turn Palm Springs
into some Mayberry community from the 1960s? Just like the original cap, what are these
numbers based on? What research was conducted? This seems so arbitrary and out of touch
with the reality of always evolving cities.
6. What are those vocal about restricting STRs trying to achieve with a 90-day annual residency
requirement? We are not retired, are not able to work remotely but above all, I don’t think it
anyone’s business to dictate who needs to live where when they own a home away from the
primary residence. This is simply not the prerogative of any governing body or disgruntled
resident.
All this being said, we currently have a permit through our rental agency. We pay our permit fees.
We pay TOT. We embraced and accepted the current rules. While limiting, the current rules have
the merit to exist and we feel they are a reasonable effort to keep things regulated. We have noise
ordinance signs and reminders plastered all over the house. We have all but two permanent
residents as immediate neighbors. They welcome renters, as otherwise the street feels a bit eerie
and desolate they say. Visitors and renters do contribute to the social fabric of this (resort) town,
just differently than a traditional city.
We do not support any further restrictions as we feel we do everything to support the local
economy in many more ways that a permanent resident would. We bring in revenue, we contribute
to the dynamism of the city whereas those against STR just seem to be complaining. Lastly, taking
away opportunities to supplement income and cover some of our mortgage will simply mean we can
no longer hang on to our retirement dream and have a vacation home in a city we love.
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Thank you for your time.
Emmanuel Cobbet + Chris Regan
3121 E Verona Road
Palm Springs, CA 92262
11/10/2022
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From:Susan Sullivan
To:City Clerk
Subject:Public Comment
Date:Wednesday, November 9, 2022 11:45:19 AM
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I am a Palm Springs taxpayer and deeply concerned about what
the proposed changes to the VR Ordinance would have. The loss
of income to the the city and the workers that are employed by
VR rentals would have a ripple effect to their incomes and
families.
I bought my house with the plan to retire full time in Palm
Springs. I’m currently able to keep my house and plan for
retirement with the income from my yearly 36 rental contracts.
Thank you for your consideration. I’m very concerned for the
livelihood of the city of Palm Springs and it’s residents.
Best,
Susan Sullivan
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I am a homeowner in Palm Springs and writing the council to encourage you NOT to further restrict vacation rentals.
By further restricting vacation rentals, you are legislating away people livelihoods. Not just homeowners who may
rely on additional income from time to time, but also the thousands of people employed in the industry; property
managers, maid services, design and real estate firms and many others. This attempt by the outgoing council to
further restrict property rights and therefore property values is a slap in the face to the homeowners you are
supposed to represent. Please do not further limit your constituent's rights when the existing regulations are more
than fair for everyone
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From:Seth Anapolsky
To:City Clerk
Subject:Vacation rental proposals
Date:Wednesday, November 9, 2022 12:53:32 PM
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To all the city council members and homeowners-
We’ve been a homeowner in Palm Springs since 2019 and utilize my home as both a
secondary residence and we rent it out responsibility the rest of the time. We follow all the
rules and have never had any violations.
I am very concerned and against the proposed changes because we made a family decision
from our savings that took us years to save. We contacted the city on several occasions on this
property based off the current policies outlined by the city of Palm Springs. This is very
dramatically different and would effect us greatly. We do feel you should grandfather current
responsible homeowners to current policies.
We would be happy to support responsible and data driven changes with future prospective in
to make the city of Palm Springs maintain its beautification but continue to be a leader, in
travel, destinations in Southern California, and even throughout the country. All the
businesses, such as restaurants, parks, souvenir shops, cleaning companies, small, local repair
shops are very affected by these changes.
I really hope all the city members read our words and follow the data. The markets are
correcting and there’s going to be significantly less investors all throughout Coachella Valley
since all bookings are down anyways.
Thank you for your time and consideration,
Seth Anapolsky
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All, I am commenting on the draft ordinance regarding vacation rentals. This change will negatively impact my
financial situation and will cause a huge negative ripple effect in our wonderful community. I bought my house
assuming unlimited rental potential which helps me defray the cost iof my mortgage until I can retire in Palm
Springs. Keep in mind the whole community is struggling with a recession, so to make any drastic changes is ill
advised. Keep in mind that a lot of vacation renters contribute nicely to all the businesses in Palm Springs. The other
thing which is appalling is the proposed annual residency requirement of 90 days. As a busy vice president of a
pharmaceutical company, I am not even home at my primary residence for 90 days due to extensive global travel.
So this is not doable at all. Kind regards Dr Kreuwel
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From:Scott Reynolds
To:City Clerk
Cc:David Finke
Subject:Nov 10th. Public Comment on Item 3A
Date:Wednesday, November 9, 2022 1:55:03 PM
May we have access to the zoom meeting link?
We purchased 1777 Ridge Road in May 2021 to be used by ourselves, our family, and for
vacation rentals. We have completely remodeled the property, and improved the energy
efficiency, with 10% income to expense. This money has paid local contractors to remodel the
home, weekly landscaping, weekly pool service, local solar, trash, water, and electricity. We
have a long-term investment in Palm Springs and making our home most comfortable for
ourselves and our guests. We will not be able to support a property that continually loses
money, with reduced contracts and dictating our personal use minimums. This would likely
result in a short sale as the economy enters a recession, and interest rates make it unlikely to
sell for what we purchased it for. This is our retirement investment taking 50% of our
expendable income. What has caused this proposal to appear?
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11/10/2022
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From:Michael Alcenius
To:City Clerk
Subject:E-Public Comment STRs prior to 11/10 Vote
Date:Wednesday, November 9, 2022 2:36:24 PM
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Greetings,
If the City Council votes for a 20% ceiling on STRs, we will definitely consider such an action
to be a lack of confidence move and will sell our home and move to a more resident-friendly
desert community.
Michael Alcenius
11/10/2022
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From:Thomas Hall
To:City Clerk
Subject:Public Comment on 3A
Date:Wednesday, November 9, 2022 2:39:04 PM
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Hi there,
My wife and I bought our home for purposes of making it a short term rental. We spent north of $20k on hotels,
restaurants, and lyfts driven by community members during this year long process.
The entire time it was marketed to us as something we could get renting asap.
We can’t afford to not rent the property, and selling now at a loss would deprecate housing prices in the premier
neighborhood of sunrise park.
What’s the point of making this such a headache in a vacation town?
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From:beckie neumann
To:City Clerk
Subject:Public Comment on Item 3A
Date:Wednesday, November 9, 2022 2:55:21 PM
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Adding extreme barriers to doing short term rentals is unreasonable. I implore you not do so.
First of all, I strongly believe this will negatively affect property values in the city. My
husband and I purchased a second home in Palm Springs because we love the area but we
cannot live here year-round. Knowing that we would be able to rent the property when we are
not here was absolutely part of the equation to help us afford to purchase the home in the first
place and a strong part of why the area was attractive to us. If renting were not allowed we
would not have chosen to buy here. Full stop. I believe for many buyers, this would also be a
major factor.
While I understand the need to regulate rentals and protect the interests of local residents, it is
unfair to rip the rug out from under those of us who are playing by the rules and renting in a
responsible manner. At this point, we have applied for a rental license many months ago and
have passed our safety inspection, paid our fees, etc. but the city has not approved our license
despite telling us it would have been done months ago. Even if new some restrictions were to
be applied, it makes no sense at all to apply them retroactively to people already in the queue
who applied according to the rules at the time. You're potentially messing with people's plans
and livelihoods without advance notice ahead of time--and for no good reason at all from what
I can tell. No data has been presented that justifies why this is necessary or desirable at all.
Outside of the impact on renters, this has potentially serious negative financial implications for
all other Palm Springs residents as well. All of us benefit from the added tourism that rentals
provide who come and spend money in our city. It is absolutely a major boost to local
businesses, which during a recession, is especially important to consider. Plus the TOT tax and
rental application fees provide essential revenue to the city to pay for public services like
police and fire departments that benefit all residents as well.
Let's be reasonable and fair here. These changes have potentially drastic consequences that
must be considered for the good of everyone involved.
Rebecca Hall
(310)722-0631
11/10/2022
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From:danachaban@aol.com
To:Lisa Middleton; Geoff Kors; Christy Holstege; Dennis Woods; Grace Garner; City Clerk
Cc:Patrick Clifford
Subject:REGARDING THE VOTE ON SHORT TERM RENTALS NOV. 11 AT 5:30 P.M.
Date:Wednesday, November 9, 2022 2:58:58 PM
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PLEASE READ AS PUBLIC COMMENT:
Dear Mayor, Council and all Concerned:
I have been a home owner in the Racquet Club Estates Neighborhood since 2000, and as you all know,
active in community interests for the betterment of our neighborhood(s) and city.
I can support the recommended 15% limit in our and in all neighborhoods. Less would be better.
I DO NOT and WILL NOT support over that amount.
Thank you for your time.
Donna Chaban (Chaban-Delmas)
P. O. Box 2461
Palm Springs 92263
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(760) 449-0021.
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From:Suzanne Moat
To:City Clerk
Subject:Public Comment on Item 3A
Date:Wednesday, November 9, 2022 3:01:40 PM
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My name is Suzanne Moat and my husband and I are taxpayers in Palm Springs. We originally
purchased our property at 1155 E Anza, Palm Springs CA with the intention of offsetting the
mortgage through short term renting until we are able to retire there indefinitely. We have rented
our home up to 36 times per year (4 being in Q3) consistently. In connection with this we have a
housekeeper who cleans not only our home but several other STR’s in the city and she employs
several women to assist her, in speaking with our housekeeper, she informed us that if a reduction
in contracts is enacted reducing the contracts from 36 to 24 (a 33% reduction) then she would be
forced to reduce her staff accordingly, i.e. layoff her staff accordingly. In addition to the reduction in
income, many owners will only rent during peak season creating a staffing issue for her during those
seasons as she will have to lay off employees off-season. If you extrapolate our housekeeping
example along with the potential loss of income to gardeners, pool workers and
restaurant/hospitality and food workers the monetary impacts to the city could be devastating , it is
very concerning that no studies have been done on how these changes will effect local jobs within
and outside the vacation rental community.
We currently have the strongest rules in the nation governing STR’s which are currently working. If
the intended effect of these new rules is to drive down housing prices to a level that would still be
too high for the average worker while at the same time putting the average workers job in Palm
Springs in jeopardy then go ahead and pass these new proposals, if that is not the intended effect
then these rules should not be considered or at the very least should be backed up by studies that
contain verified facts that would not be detrimental to our city and its working residents.
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From:JF S
To:City Clerk
Cc:JF S
Subject:Public Comments on item 3A - City council meeting 11/10/22
Date:Wednesday, November 9, 2022 3:14:07 PM
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My name is Jesus Salcedo, a resident, locally registered voter and a tax payer in
Palm Springs. I am writing to express my opposition to the proposed changes to
the STR ordinance in tomorrow's council meeting; this is item 3A on the agenda.
My first concern has to do with the fact that the City Council has repeatedly
failed to express the problem that they are trying to solve. One Council
expressed the fact that some neighborhoods have too many short term rentals
and it makes the neighborhood feel less like a neighborhood. Need I remind you
all that by any number of data sets, about 33% of the homes are second homes
and are not STR licenses? City staff mentioned this in one of the previous
meetings and it was ignored by council members.
I am in opposition to most of the changes, in particular to neighborhood caps
based on some random percentage. I am also in opposition to the lowering of the
number of contracts allowed annually. I am also opposing the changes related to
the forceful downgrading of a permit to the proposed JR permit based again on
some random number of contracts per year. You are infringing on property
rights and how residents can use their own home.
There are things that I think you should address, like finding a way to have
natural persons be the ones that hold the licenses, not investors. Many people
like me purchased and renovated our homes with the hopes to build our nest egg
to retire in Palm Springs, your changes are killing our chances at this retirement.
No data has been provided as to what economic effects these changes will have
on the restaurants, pool cleaning companies, house keepers, concierges, gardners,
pest control companies etc. all of which I employ thanks to the use of my home
as a short term rental. It should be obvious, but I will state it for the record;
you are also purposely manipulating home values at the time that the real estate
market is coming to a halt.
Your idea of capping licenses per neighborhood is immoral and abhorrent; I hope
it is illegal as well. This will have the effect of more densely populated
neighborhoods to be the target of people who are looking to purchase a home in
Palm Springs and retire here eventually; effectively pushing out the poorer of
our residents. This favors the neighborhoods with large lots/homes and less
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densely populated, which are also the most expensive homes, with more affluent
owners. You have a responsibility to treat everyone in this city equally and not
create changes that favor the rich in the City.
I would like to add that many of the residents who have stayed at my home keep
on coming back. They stay time and time again because they like the
neighborhood, they appreciate the sense of quiet and also enjoy meeting the
neighbors, when the neighbors are around and come out; which does not happen
often. My visitors walk around the neighborhood enjoying the beautiful homes
around. They also enjoy the ever changing list of restaurants I provide them
with and go out and enjoy their time in town, spending plenty of money; in many
cases more than the local residents I am sure. For example, one gay couple who
stayed at my place has since bought a home of their own; another couple
continues to look for their perfect home as well. You see, my guests are
neighbors as well, but not in the traditional sense that it used to be. We must
allow for the City to evolve with the world and continue to be a beacon for
tourists, residents and part time residents.
Lastly, I urge you to reconsider all these changes that accomplish nothing and
have no basis in fact, data or resident input for their needs. You must state the
problem you are trying to solve (making a promise to revise the ordinance is not
a problem), and then look for creative solutions that are well considered, studied
and implemented in a way that has the least amount of negative impact for the
most amount of people.
Sincerely,
Jesus Salcedo
323.244.6694
11/10/2022
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From:City of Palm Springs
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Date:Wednesday, November 9, 2022 3:52:32 PM
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I was one of the PS citizens selected to participate in the STR work group. I attended every meeting and participated
in the robust discussions, debates and consensus votes. In my opinion, the 20% neighborhood cap being proposed
to “control” STR density is an absolutely ineffective measure. And wastes the time and patience of neighbors
seeking a peaceful, non-partying, community and residents seeking affordable long term rental housing. It will take
years, if not decades to reach 20% through attrition in the areas already well above that density. In an ordinance
being proposed for review in 1-2 years? Seriously? Why bother with a review when there will be no significant
reduction. There WILL, however be a significant INCREASE in the total number of STRs with the implementation of
the proposed “junior” program. Considering the fact that cities across the Coachella Valley (and nation-wide) are
now banning STRs completely, I feel PS has ignored th majority of its residents here.
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From:Rikke MC
To:City Clerk; Lisa Middleton
Subject:Public Comment on Item 3A
Date:Wednesday, November 9, 2022 4:14:33 PM
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Good Afternoon,
As a Palm Springs taxpayer, I wish to object to the proposed ordinances. I specifically would
like to address two that will really have an effect on our lives.
The first being the annual residency requirement for VR permit owners of 90-days per year.
We purchased our house in 2020 planning on retiring to Palm Springs. We, unfortunately,
have a daughter who is still attending school and both my husband and myself would not be
able to take 3 months off a year to stay in Palm Springs. This is really discriminating against
people who have to maintain employment as well as students who do not wish to change
schools.
The second ordinance that I simply don't understand is the cap on per year rentals from 32 to
20. If you have a house that is vacation rental, why would this change do anything to benefit
the City of Palm Springs? What is likely to happen is that people will try to rent their houses
outside of AirBnB and there will be less control and monitoring of guests. The hosts will not
be covered on insurance the same level as they would if they could rent their houses out on the
up and up.
We are rule followers and want to do everything according to the law. We do not wish to lie
about our residency and rentals. Please don't set people up to do so. It will just cause a big
mess.
Remember that short term rentals are maintained with the utmost care to ensure that people get
good reviews and offer a good experience. Why not just deal with the issues at hand, eliminate
nuisances and find a better way to make the locals happy. I assume that the purpose is to make
us sell our house. But with these proposed ordinances, we are sure to see a drop in rates and
we will all be under water.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
--
Cheers,
Rikke Christensen
415.250.0256
11/10/2022
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From:City of Palm Springs
To:City Clerk; City Clerk
Subject:*NEW SUBMISSION* Submit Public Comment to the City of Palm Springs
Date:Tuesday, November 8, 2022 8:21:33 PM
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This could mean a big impact on the other non-VR businesses that are affected by VRs (less Food and Beverage, less
housekeepers, Less needed yet still costly trash service, a more visibly vacant property) this a nest egg, an
investment in my or myfamily's future, is this something that would take away I will be forced out, will there be a
risk of foreclosure or short sale which would drop the values of my neighborhood in Palm Springs proper My
property will it continue to be a buffer or insulator for me financially, headed into a highly expected recession?we
are supporting palm spring PS, as a whole, lose value as a tourist time as you have seen VR is a big draw especially in
our drive market? Nearly that same question but by the same impact on a city with less TOT by several million? Can
Palm Springs really affort this ? very disappointed and frustrated is an understatement. Most of these changes are
not supported by historical facts or any factual projected data .
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Date:Tuesday, November 8, 2022 8:33:56 PM
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We purchased our home knowing that we could rent it out to offset mortgage, improvements needed, and someday
use it ourselves a good 4months out of the year. Please consider the impact to families like ours who have invested
in the PS community. Many tourists will find somewhere else to go and the economic impact will be awful to PS. Our
friends and family love to vacation in PS and do not want to stay in hotels when visiting. Hotels are very different
than vacation homes. If we lose restaurants, shops, and jobs in PS it will be very hurtful to the city. We cannot afford
to live in our home 90 days a year until we retire that is a very difficult thing to enforce. The impact on real estate
will also be tremendous, home values will go down and this will affect everyone not just VR owners. Our rental helps
support housekeepers, landscapers, pool maintenance folks and more. We are heading into a recession and this
proposed ordinance will make that even worse in PS. Save our city!!!!!
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From:paul gregory
To:City Clerk
Subject:Public comment on 3a
Date:Tuesday, November 8, 2022 8:58:02 PM
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Hello ,my name is Paul Rubin , 323-848-9682. I am a Palm Springs home owner and taxpayer . I have many
concerns about the impending restrictions, particularly limiting the amount of contracts , this will impact my
financial life and most probably destroy my plans to retire here. But it will also quite negatively impact the city
budget as you will be getting much less in TOT dollars, which could affect the police , emt and fire department.
I imagine you want to limit the number of permits and the amount of contracts to keep the neighborhoods quiet and
to keep properties from becoming run down .
As a vacation home owner I have maintained my property and relationships with guests who return again and again .
I am recommending restaurants and attractions, and shopping to every guest . I believe that the more my property is
occupied by tourists the more the city has to gain .
In my house rules I am very clear no noise and no parties , and I require a large security deposit, which is forfeited if
they break these rules . I know this deters guests who might want to break the rules. I believe vacation home owners
are a necessary asset to Palm Springs tourism.
This year the 3 ugly houses on my block were transformed beautifully by new home owners, I fear these restrictions
will make Palm Springs less popular and the new residents who may not be able to rent their property will leave .
With a recession around the corner and my personal retirement also around the corner . I beg you to keep the
contracts at 32 plus 4.
Paul Rubin
Racquetclub Estates
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From:City of Palm Springs
To:City Clerk; City Clerk
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Date:Tuesday, November 8, 2022 5:06:02 PM
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I am a homeowner and taxpayer. I own a vacation rental that I would like to ultimately retire in. Currently, I need to
rent the house as a short term rental in order to pay all of the related expenses including but not limited to a very
large mortgage, property tax, and significant maintenance expenses to keep my property looking great. This
enhances my neighborhood and keeps my home looking desirable. If the number of rentals are reduced, it could
devastate me financially and require me to sell . I am not in a unique position and the property values would drop
significantly if many of us had to sell. Homes like mine employ many landscapers, pool companies, painters,
electricians, plumbers, cleaning people and our guests support local restaurants, bars and shops. Reducing the
number of stays would not only destroy me, it would reduce the employment of the people providing all of the
services to the vacation rental owners and the guests.
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From:Clare McTernan
To:City Clerk
Subject:Amendment to Short Term Rental Ordinance - Comments for City Counsel
Date:Tuesday, November 8, 2022 4:13:33 PM
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Dear Council Members,
I am writing to you regarding the proposed amendments to the current short term
rental ordinance. We have owned our Little Tuscany property since late 2016 and are
very concerned about the potential impact on us personally, our workers, and the
retail stores and restaurants in the city.
We have spent well over $100,000 on improvements to our property and just signed a
contract to install solar panels. We love our property and spend as much time as
possible there with the thoughts of possibly retiring there eventually.
We have wonderful neighbors and guests and have never once had a hotline call,
never mind a citation. As you know, this is the case for the majority of STR owners,
so we are puzzled as to the motive behind such draconian measures. Specifically,
reducing the number of annual contracts will make life very difficult for us. Our
property is large and requires a lot of maintenance expenditure. Spending 90 days at
our property is not an option for us right now as we have school age children, but
hopefully some day in the future, we can spend a lot more than 90 days there.
We really question the timing of such changes as we are about to enter a recession
and all the business owners in the city will likely see a major slow down. The TOT
revenue would be reduced thus impacting city services also. The wonderful local
people who help us manage the property will see their much needed income decline.
I am old enough to remember visiting Palm Springs in the 90s and early 2000s. Much
of the downtown area was run down and in summer it was a ghost town. Many
neighborhoods were filled with homes in disrepair. Today the city is a vibrant
community that attracts visitors from all over the country, winter and summer.
Neighborhoods have been revitalized, in large part due to the investment of short
term rental owners, who were willing to take a chance and bring back these homes to
their former glory. Visitors come to the city to experience staying in these homes.
Limiting contracts to 24 annually and requiring 90 days personal use will put most of
us out of business and the visitors will go elsewhere, where they are welcome. I
strongly urge you to reconsider these measures and vote no to the amendments at
the Thursday council meeting.
Sincerely,
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I am writing about the vacation rental ordinance proposal that is up for a vote. As compliant vacation rental owners
for the last 5 years, my husband and I would be financially hurt if there were changes made to the ordinance. We
would lose revenue and we would also certainly see the value of our home decrease. Asking for owners to live in PS
for 90 days per year is not reasonable, as many of us have returned to work in our offices full time. I understand that
there needs to be control on rentals, however I think the rules need to be enforced more consistently for the
problem houses and that those of us that follow the rules should not be forced to make additional concessions.
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From:John Gray
To:City Clerk
Subject:Vacation Rentals - E comments
Date:Tuesday, November 8, 2022 3:01:08 PM
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Hello,
I’m writing to let you know I oppose the 90 residency requirement of the proposed vacation
rules currently under consideration. I believe this would be difficult to track and enforce and
is also an arbitrary number of days.
Best,
John Gray
3050 Goldenrod Lane
PS 92264
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Public Comment
Item 3A
From:Steve Stuart
To:City Clerk
Subject:Comments on Proposed STR Ordinance Revision from a Young Couple
Date:Tuesday, November 8, 2022 12:19:20 PM
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City Council Members of Palm Springs,
I first want to take a moment to thank you for your efforts and dedication to preserving the magic of our
wonderful city. My wife and I are proud taxpayers and adore this phenomenal community.
We purchased a property several months ago, and our STR permit is currently in limbo during the
moratorium. We submitted our application back in July, and are eagerly awaiting our permit to contribute
to the wonderful tourism industry of PSP, and build towards our dream of retiring in this extraordinary
city. As a younger couple who are looking to build our future in Palm Springs, my wife and I have a few
concerns regarding the proposed changes to the STR ordinance.
We initially chose PSP after falling in love with the city, and deciding that this would be our place to
retire. Given the incredible demand and home values skyrocketing over the last year, we decided it was
best to get into the market immediately and start making our plans. We determined this would only be
possible by renting out this second home to supplement our income and help cover the mortgage
payments. What solidified our decision was the already exceptional rules and regulations established in
2018 for STRs, which after doing significant research, has proven to be quite successful and the gold
standard for all other communities to aspire to.
Our concerns over the proposed revisions are as follows.
-Why are we trying to fix something that has proven to be so successful? What problem are we really
trying to solve for and who exactly are we trying to appease? I'm seeing broad terms about community
and knowing our neighbors, coupled with concerns about turning properties into hotels, yet Palm Springs
has always been a vacation/resort destination with partially empty vacation homes, and the numbers
show that the current ordinance has done an outstanding job in monitoring and enforcing STR rules.
Again, this is part of why we believe so much in this city. Other communities WISH they had it together
like Palm Springs.
-Given the success of the current program, why are we hiring two additional enforcement officers if we're
looking to limit contracts? More officers to handle fewer overall contracts does not make sense.
- If the contracts are limited to a 20+4 format (which after researching, I still cannot figure out the
significance of this proposed number), I fear we may not be able to supplement the loss of potential
income to keep our second home. Even if we're somehow able to make our mortgage payments, we will
NOT be able to continue rehabbing our dream retirement property or re-invest to continually make
improvements.
-We submitted our application in July, long before there was any word of potential revisions and the
influx of permit applications hoping to squeeze in before any changes were made. Why should we be
penalized just as we're about to cross the finish line?
-If, in a worst case scenario, we are forced to abandon our dreams of retiring in Palm Springs and sell
our second home, who will purchase said home at current interest rates? How does this affect the overall
value of housing? We may be forced to short sale or foreclose on our property, which would be
devastating. I suspect we would not be the only young homeowners/tax payers in this situation and our
hearts break for those individuals. We are potentially hindering the potential for the next generation to
build a life and retire in this great city. It appears as though only the elite can afford to keep their house
vacant with the current issues of inflation and a looming recession, and we certainly do not fall into that
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category.
-I feel it's important to note that the result of this could be a substantial number of homeowners upside
down in their mortgage commitments, given the resulting plummet in property values. We're concerned
that we're potentially taking an already difficult environment and fast tracking an even worse scenario
here.
-What is the economic impact of this on ToT and overall tourism to the area? How do we intend to
replace that revenue?
-We do NOT have a problem with enforcing an owner occupancy period, as this limits the number of
absentee investors and is really what we feel the council is looking to accomplish, though we do feel 90
days is a bit strong. 60 days would be more appropriate, or perhaps friends and family stays could count
towards that requirement. (I.E. if our parents would like to visit for a week or two, that would still count
towards owner occupancy as there wouldn't be an opportunity to rent out the property.)
Overall, it's imperative to stress that the timing of this could not be worse, given the looming recession,
inflation and the fact that we are in the midst of an election. Coupling this with the potential for property
values to further plummet, and I'm concerned this could be a recipe for needless disaster. I would urge
council to consider instating permits for applications that are in limbo/already in process, continue a
pause on accepting any NEW applications and defer any action until more data can be compiled with
additional input from the community at large.
I appreciate you taking the time to read this and all you do for this incredible city. We believe in you and
we continue to believe in Palm Springs,
Steve
11/10/2022
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Item 3A
From:City of Palm Springs
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Why is the city declaring war on responsible homeowners who seek to reduce the exorbitant cost of ownership with
short term rental income? The proposed 90 day residency requirement is completely unreasonable, even with the
phased approach for existing permit holders. California residents are already drowning under a sea of rules and
regulations that deter many from living here. Adding new regulations like a 90-day residency requirement will
continue to push away part-time residents and money from our city. By strangling the rental market, also consider
the ripple effect on the economy. Rentals drive tourism that supports restaurants and local businesses. Rentals also
support trades like construction, plumbers, electricians, and cleaners. I understand the need to find balance and
prevent the city from becoming 100% rentals, but the proposed rules go too far.
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From:City of Palm Springs
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Date:Monday, November 7, 2022 5:19:55 PM
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The reduction of contracts would be devastating. We have had our rental for 7 years and have not had one citation.
I feel like we should be rewarded for that, not penalized
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Why do we get even more limited to rent our properties? We did everything the City rules told us to do and now we
get punished? I have 23 employees cleaning and taking care of vacation rentals. Those planned Limitations would
take a lot work away from me and I need to let people go. Vacation rental houses are the most beautiful houses and
give Palm Springs its flair, residential homes are mostly ran down and not taken care off! Also what is with the the
tot and tbid we fill the city treasure chest? Palm Springs thrives non or less through the taxes it gets from vacation
rentals. There is no reason to limit vacation rentals even more as it already is. It would be better to find the black
sheep and go more after the illegal vacation rentals. Please reconsider the new limitations, what sense does it make
to ask vacation rental owners to stay 90 days in their rentals? Or to limit contracts to 24 now? In no other Business
you get forced to limit your income
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Date:Monday, November 7, 2022 6:36:01 PM
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As a STR owner/ operator I would like to know why the current vacation Rental ordnance has to be amended. It has
worked very well to cut the number of STR and complaints. Why must we keep making it more difficult for people
who choose to rent out their properties? Franky I think the current ordnance is unconstitutional. Limiting the
number of STR’s is like telling the barber shop he can have only one shop, or the restaurant owner only one
location. Has anyone challenged the legality of the current ordnance or this proposed stricter one? City Council has
more important issues to focus on rather than continuing to further restrict STR. Who is the catalyst behind the
need for this new ordnance? A few disgruntled homeowners who just figured out that this is a tourist town and the
noise level is higher than most cities? We all moved here because Palm Springs is a great place to visit and live. Let’s
not destroy the whole reason this town exists. #STR=$$$
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I think it’s ok it you want to limit the amount of contracts even more, and ok if you want to require owners to spend
time in their own home (although that seems very hard and expensive to police) but I strongly disagree that there
should be a percentage neighborhood cap. That’s simply unfair for many reasons.
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Date:Tuesday, November 8, 2022 2:34:24 AM
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#2485/#6103 - As an owner of a STR, I understand the situation at hand with the local owners dealing with unruly
rentals. I believe that stricter enforcement to the permit process, a local owners only (no investment companies or
outsiders) and a permanent 2 strikes and you're out should be considered. I have done this for 10 years, and I have
never had any reason for a compliance officer to visit my rental..I have paid my TOT on time, passed all inspections,
and greeted, in person every guest who entered my property. I am local, and this is my only means of income. I ask
why should I be penalized for others who do not take the responsibility of overseeing their properties, and leaving it
up to property managers is no better.. I think that as a board, you should consider the ones who comply and care,
give them something and punish the rest. I have worked to hard to ensure my properties is one of the good ones
and will continue to to so.
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Hello! As a permit holder in Old Las Palmas, we appreciate the need for improved regulation/oversight. But the
introduction of the “Junior Permit” guidelines that penalize existing permit holders if they don’t meet a minimum
rental number is perplexing and ill advised. Also, adding the words “if any” suggests that a even a junior permit may
be denied if a homeowner does not meet the 7 rental requirement. What is the purpose of forcing more rentals on
existing permit holders? Sone years - we may wish to offer 5 rentals - other years 8 - We can’t figure out how forcing
us into a new category serves the City’s purposes. Thank you! Tom Ellicott
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I am writing in regards to the changes being considered for short term rental permits. I am a homeowner in Indian
Canyon and also a short term permit holder. The city of Palm Springs thrives on visitors, specifically those staying in
short term rentals, and the city has done an excellent job of enforcing rules, and making sure things do not get out
of control. The additional changes, in my opinion are not necessary, and could be detrimental to the economy of
Palm Springs. I do not support the changes and recommend you all reconsider the changes. We all want Palm
Springs to continue thriving with visitors and keep our businesses open!!
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Date:Tuesday, November 8, 2022 6:39:31 AM
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Please Palm Springs Mayor and council consider these rules too draconian. These new rules are like a punishment
for running a great service and bringing huge tax dollars to the city. We are just a small fry but have always been
respectful rental owners. Please reject these rules. Thank you. Joseph Pisciotta vacation rental owner Mesquite
County Club.
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Hello, I have a 2nd home in Palm Springs that I use as a seasonal get away from the Midwest. We rent the property
to offset the cost of owning it. We do plan to spend more time there as we get older however it will probably always
be a part year resident. I understand your desire to limit the number of rentals, however the reduction in the
number of rentals allowed and the 90 requirement are prohibitive. 90 days is a major amount of time of a part-year
resident. And reducing the number of total rentals is a big hit to the revenue that is generated to offset the cost. If
this ordinance goes through, it would prohibit me from owning a place in Palm Springs and will have to find another
location to retire in the winter months. I would be forced to sell the house as will many others which will cause a
crash in the market. None of this is desirable for residents or the city. My preference would be to limit the changes
to just the number of permits and the density by neighborhood.
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Further restrictions on contract #s and forcing a 90 day owner occupied situation jeopardizes our livelihood and
once again threatens our future retirement plans . We are an older couple and feel deeply threatened by these
proposals.
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From:dwjag@aol.com
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Subject:Vacation rentals/event homes
Date:Tuesday, November 8, 2022 8:57:01 AM
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The City Council should not have the right to take away my property rights. I've chosen not
to have events at the Autey Estate. I should have the right to choose, not my right taken
away.
I should also have the right to rent out my house(s). If rentals are wrong, get rid of all of
them and suffer the financial consequences. You can't allow 8 people on my block to have
them and after 12 years of ownership I decide to rent my house out and you tell me no???
You can't keep X amount of rentals because you need the TOT and then tell the rest of us
to buzz off. Something is either right or wrong. If STR are wrong get rid of all of them. That
is the fair thing to do. If you allow any property owner in Palm Springs to have one, then
you allow all of the local residents to have one, not discriminate. I'm surrounded by illegal
ones and they have never been a problem.
If you are not going to let me have one, then you better get rid of all of them.
Dennis Walsh
277 W El Portal
Dennis Walsh
328 W. Mountain View Place
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Date:Tuesday, November 8, 2022 9:29:55 AM
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As an owner of a vacation rental in Palm Springs, my position is likely a rare stance. I strongly support the proposed
vacation rental ordinance changes in their entirety. I am concerned that if the City doesn’t legislate on this matter--
the citizens will through another voter initiative (AKA Measure C). The majority of the desert cities have (or will) be
fully banning VRs. Therefore, I suggest that the Council help educate VR owners that the proposed ordinance
changes will actually protect vacation rentals. I applaud the Council for taking these measures and bringing forth a
balanced solution that meets the needs of VR owners and neighboring residents. Thank you.
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I live and work here in Palm Springs 50% of the time. The only way I can afford to keep my house is to do short term
rentals while I am working in LA. To further limit the # of contracts would make it impossible for me to keep up with
the mortgage and constant repairs and upkeep at this house. As it is, I am still barely able to pay for expenses.
Thanks, Derol Caraco
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To do this right before the snowbird season is really cruel to people who live here part-time and rely on this income
for survival. It would be preferred to be able to plan for this in advance and allow new VR owners a chance to
capitalize on their investment this winter, then plan for the changes next year.
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From:Christy Holstege
To:Teresa Gallavan; City Clerk; Jeff Ballinger-C; Llubi Rios
Subject:Fwd: Events clause
Date:Monday, November 7, 2022 3:11:57 PM
Christy Gilbert Holstege, Esq.
Councilmember
District 4
City of Palm Springs
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From: Ron Willison <r.willison@naturalretreats.com>
Date: November 7, 2022 at 9:13:52 AM PST
To: Christy Holstege <Christy.Holstege@palmspringsca.gov>
Subject: Events clause
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I’d like to set an appointment with you before this issue comes up at the meeting on
November 10. Below is the email I’m sending to all affiliated industries including Scott
White at the convention visitors bureau all local wedding planners, destination
management companies, hotels, caterers and other industries affected. I specifically
would like to discuss with you what research was done on the amendment. I certainly was
not contacted I’ve been doing events here for 40 years and I file the majority of Event
Permits with planning. I think it would behoove both you and the council to discuss this
with the industry
Here is the language in the proposed ordinance for the upcoming Palm Springs city
Council meeting on Vacation Rentals on November 10.
This would essentially Eliminate ALL Event Houses in Palm Springs including the Frank
Sinatra Twin Palms Estate.
There’s been absolutely no kind of research or financial analysis done of this suggestion
by Councilman Kors. We have a strict event permit process that we follow closely and
it’s completely unrelated to vacation rentals.
I’d like as many of you as possible to please write into the city clerk to protest.
cityclerk@palmspringsca.gov
or protest in person this Thursday.
This is a ridiculous and poorly thought through restriction. One suggestion by a city
Council member and they essentially are eliminating a $15 million a year event industry
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for weddings, corporate events and film and photo shoots in Palm Springs. There’s also
not been one suggestion as to why. I have not had a single complaint on any of my estates
in the five years I’ve been doing this type of work.
They’re talking about not only destroying my job but dozens of others the community
with absolutely no forethought or discussion.
WE NEED YOUR HELP TO STOP THIS!!
Vacation Rentals and Event Houses
The proposed ordinance provides that Vacation Rentals (including any Junior Vacation
Rentals) cannot be used as an Event House. This represents an effort to further reduce the
impact to neighbors, by residences that might otherwise be used both for vacation rentals
as well as special events.
Ron Willison
Group Sales and Events Manager Palm Springs
E: r.willison@naturalretreats.com
M: +1-760-835-1124
515 North Palm Canyon Drive, Suite B-11 Palm Springs, CA 92262-5505
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Vacation rentals that are professionally managed are not the issue. We strongly encourage the city of Palm Springs
to differentiate between those homes that are professionally managed, and those that aren’t. Our guests do not
receive complaints and our company and homes do not receive complaints. We support and love the city and
encourage the city to support and love the visitors that choose to be amazing guests and have amazing experiences
that support Palm Springs, as well.
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My main concern is that you do not decrease the number of contracts allowed per year. This loss of income could
force me to loose my house. I love Palm Springs, and was planning to retire there . Please don’t make me loose my
property
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City of Palm Springs
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While I understand some of the reasoning behind these new ordinances, I don't think it's fair to make this effective
immediately. There should be at least a 6 month period before going into effect, to allow people who have been
investing a lot of money into this community to be able to prepare for the changes. If a person just put their life
savings into a vacation home with hopes of making it a VR when they are not using it, they have now lost all of their
investment. The right thing to do is to give time for people to know in advance the new rules before making a
decision to buy a home. Now I will have to sell my home at a loss, because the improvements would have been
offset by the VR income... and that is bad for the neighborhood and the market overall. I feel like this is a bait and
switch on those who found Palm Springs to be fair and balanced and a wonderful place for a second vacation home.
I am not sure why these new rules cannot be effective in 2023 Q4 to be fair.
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Mayor and Council Members — the city’s residents have spoken about STRs at the ballot box. Please do not
disrespect us by eroding our rights - we’re organized, we care about our city’s prosperity and we will find candidates
to replace those who legislate against the will of Palm Springs residents.
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From:Tim Simrell
To:City Clerk
Subject:No rental limits by neighborhood
Date:Monday, November 7, 2022 1:47:56 PM
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Dear City Council,
While many people occupy Palm Springs full-time, this city has a rich history as a vacation
destination and the ongoing efforts to exclude vacationers from the city doesn’t align with our city’s
roots and rich history.
I am opposed to arbitrarily capping vacation rental permits by neighborhood. This would
immediately and unfairly decrease our property values in neighborhoods with denser vacation
homes (despite having the lowest nuisance complaints) and will ultimately shift vacationers into less
dense neighborhoods. It makes no sense. Why not acknowledge that some neighborhoods are
better suited to vacation rentals and some to residential homes? A permit cap that is not broadly
based on the entire city unfairly targets and red lines property owners in specific neighborhoods and
is questionably lawful.
I urge you to consider a process that is more fair and just.
Sincerely,
Tim Simrell
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Dear City Council, Re: Short-term Vacation Rental limitations While many people occupy Palm Springs full-time, this
city has a rich history as a vacation destination and the ongoing efforts to exclude vacationers from the city doesn’t
align with our city’s roots and rich history. I am opposed to arbitrarily capping vacation rental permits by
neighborhood. This would immediately and unfairly decrease our property values in neighborhoods with denser
vacation homes (despite having the lowest nuisance complaints) and will ultimately shift vacationers into less dense
neighborhoods. It makes no sense. Why not acknowledge that some neighborhoods are better suited to vacation
rentals and some to residential homes? A permit cap that is not broadly based on the entire city unfairly targets and
red lines property owners in specific neighborhoods and is questionably lawful. I urge you to consider a process that
is more fair and just. Sincerely, Tim Simrell
Thank you,
City of Palm Springs
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From:Eric Atcheson
To:City Clerk
Subject:Comments for Council Meeting on 11/10/2022
Date:Monday, November 7, 2022 1:03:00 PM
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RE: STR New Ordinance
City Council,
I have been a homeowner in Palm Springs since 2020. I purchased my property as primary
residence during COVID for myself but due to changing circumstances I had to move back to
San Diego for work. That said, I still spend approximately 30% of the year at my home in PS.
I had to convert my home into a vacation home/STR to ensure that I can continue to benefit
from the home and not be forced to sell. The long term intention is to be a place for my mother
to retire in in the not too distant future. That said, I am both surprised and bewildered by the
ordinances brought up in the latest council meeting.
I understand and appreciate the need to curb rampant STRs whose sole use is to generate
income from non-residents and as means to park funds from people living in other parts of the
world. I believe addressing that through a % per neighborhood and potentially a requirement
of resident occupancy - although 90 days seems to be excessive and forces most of us into an
impossible position, year to year.
The migration from 36 to 24 unique rentals is beyond astonishing. A 33% decrease is
exorbitant and is reflective that these "items" were not considered in a forum representing
Palm Springs constituents. I understand that a balance must be reached but cutting such a large
swathe of Palm Springs revenue so indiscriminately will not only hurt the homeowners but
Palm Springs. This year alone, people like myself who both utilize the home as their own and
rent via STR have seen their rentals slashed due to the economy. If ordinances like these and
others listed as part of the agenda are enacted as written, Palm Springs will see a large uptick
in homes back on the market to be sold off as purely holding entities for foreign investors
looking to park funds. Properties will essentially become vacated lots, pushing the burden onto
the City. Additionally, this reduction makes ownership out of reach for some owners. If any
owner is utilizing their property as an STR, they are at the mercy of the market. We cannot
predict a month long rental vs a 3 day rental. The market doesn't correct for the ordinance, you
merely eliminate the market. Also with the addition of the required residency of 90 days, you
would inherently be shrinking the availability even more so. None of this seems to be done as
a measured balance but purely predatory towards any STR homeowner, no matter local or
otherwise.
Such aggressive tactics will ultimately induce the opposite effect intended by the council. I'm
uncertain of how these ordinances were arrived at and shocked by their extent.
I appreciate the council's time and consideration on these measures. I hope the council will
engage the public and those of us intent on being part of the City of Palm Springs the time to
participate in crafting a solution that will help the city continue to thrive.
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Eric
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Item 3A on the Thursday, November 10 City Council meeting agenda: The proposed ordinance update includes the
provision that: “(x) No Vacation Rental, including any Junior Vacation Rental, shall be used as an Event House, as
that term is used in Palm Springs Municipal Code Chapter 5.75. The City shall not issue an Event House Permit to any
property for which a Vacation Rental Registration Certificate or a Junior Vacation Rental Registration Certificate has
been issued and remains valid.” This proposed provision would hurt many residents and small business owners in
our community that rely on events for their livelihood. When events and meetings were shut down due to the
COVID-19 pandemic, these local businesses were devastated. Now that events are back, please stand with small,
locally owned businesses, including florists, photographers, caterers, and more by removing this proposed change.
We need new regulations that protect our livelihoods and address the concerns of neighbors.
Thank you,
City of Palm Springs
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From:Beth Daniel
To:City Clerk
Subject:Palm Springs city Council potential elimination of event houses that are also vacation rentals
Date:Friday, November 4, 2022 4:07:24 PM
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City Clerk: The proposed ordinance to ban any future events being held at estates in the Palm
Springs area creates a deficit in the valley for luxury homes to host corporate events. With years of
history and track records of successful events, I hope the City is considering further review of this
policy until additional review has been performed to weigh the pros and cons.
Having served as a corporate event planner in the area for the past 20+ years, we have hosted
events at the O’Donnell, Frank Sinatra and Dinah Shore estates (to name a few) for years and the
value and service it provides to our customers is immeasurable.
The proposed ordinance provides that Vacation Rentals (including any Junior Vacation Rentals)
cannot be used as an Event House. This represents an effort to further reduce the impact to
neighbors, by residences that might otherwise be used both for vacation rentals as well as special
events.
Warm regards,
Beth K Daniel
bethdesert@outlook.com
619.993.5417
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From:Courtney Tibbets | Facilitator of Fun
To:City Clerk
Subject:Nov 10 city council meeting
Date:Friday, November 4, 2022 2:23:55 PM
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Hello,
I am writing to express concern over the upcoming vote on Nov 10 re: event houses
at estates- this poorly thought out and ridiculous paragraph will gravely effect the
hospitality and events industry in the city.
When professionally and properly managed, there is no impact to neighbors on theseevent house vacation rentals. This will negatively effect many local businessesand once in a lifetime special events who otherwise would bring a lot of money intothe city, and whose events are not causing any upheaval.
Vacation Rentals and Event Houses
The proposed ordinance provides that Vacation Rentals (including any Junior
Vacation Rentals) cannot be used as an Event House. This represents an effort
to further reduce the impact to neighbors, by residences that might otherwise
be used both for vacation rentals as well as special events.
Please consider striking this down.
Cheers,
Courtney Tibbets
Creator of Good Vibes, Dope Experiences + New-Fashioned Weddings
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